[Special K]

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2016/01/vancouver-police-search-middle-eastern-men-pacific-centre-mall/

Vancouver Police are seeking the public’s help in identifying three Middle Eastern men who were seen taking 360 video within Pacific Centre Mall in downtown Vancouver on Tuesday, January 12 at approximately 6:30 p.m.

The men were seen taking video of exits and entrances and specifically capturing shots of the Dunsmuir Street exit. Mall security tried locating them but were unsuccessful.

Police initially believed four men were taking video, but the number of persons of interest has since been reduced to three men.


If you have any information about the men in the photo, please contact Vancouver Police Constable Colin Small at 604-717-2582 or Crime Stoppers 1-800-222-8477.

Some of us including me go to PC frequently. Any wild guesses of their motives?

SkinnyPupp Edit: Adding official press release (http://mediareleases.vpd.ca/2016/01/14/police-investigating-suspicious-incident-at-pacific-centre-mall/) so people don't have to visit that crap site.

POLICE INVESTIGATING SUSPICIOUS INCIDENT AT PACIFIC CENTRE MALL

January 14, 2016
Vancouver Police are investigating a suspicious incident after three men were seen taking photographs inside a mall in downtown Vancouver.

Around 6:30 p.m. on Tuesday, January 12th, three Middle Eastern looking men were seen inside Pacific Centre Mall taking photographs of the entrances and exits.

There is no information to believe that these men have committed a crime. Nor do we have information to believe that the public is currently at risk.

Police are interested in speaking with them about their activity in the mall.

Public safety remains our top priority and we are working with mall security and management to ensure the safety of visitors and staff.

Anyone with information about these men is asked to call the Vancouver Police Department at 604-717-3235.

[Zordon]

They filming a music video...

[Timpo]

the article doesn't say why they're searching for them.

[6o4__boi]

Inb4

"ITS JUST A PRANK BRO."

[iEatClams]

They filming a music video...

DJ Khaled!

[The_AK]

lol no one wants to say it

[shawnly1000]

The official media release

Police Investigating Suspicious Incident at Pacific Centre Mall | Vancouver Police Department (http://mediareleases.vpd.ca/2016/01/14/police-investigating-suspicious-incident-at-pacific-centre-mall/)

[Timpo]

what the hell?

sounds like police just jumped on to the assumption that they're planning on terrorism or setting up a bomb.

how many middle eastern people do we have in Canada? and how many people have smart phones?

if they were 3 teenage girls taking pictures at shopping mall, nobody would've give 2 shits about it.

[i-vtecyo]

Not normal for anyone to take pictures of all the exits and entrances..

[4444]

Not normal for anyone to take pictures of all the exits and entrances..

absolutely, it is very weird what they were doing... but if they are terrorists, they are some of the worst terrorists around.

come on, they could have at least tried to be incognito about it!!!

i'm sure it was nothing, but if it is something, these guys are even bigger idiots than normal terrorists!

[68style]

Derp Timpo... If you think the police are giving out all the information they have you're sadly mistaken. I'm sure they have very good reasons/further information that you don't need to know about.

[StylinRed]

that certainly is suspicious to take photos of entrances and exits... but with google street view available, and inconspicuous cameras for sale (even in best buy), these guys clearly aren't the brightest, if they are up to no good

[$_$]

I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about

[jonwon]

I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about

Better safe than fucking sorry.

[320icar]

Why the fail in the first post. Yes it's a judgement call and yes I hope it's something totally innocent. But Like above me, better safe than fuckin sorry. Trust your gut

[shawnly1000]

The story/post probably broke before there was an official/public/media release.

If you look at one of the VCB Twitter accounts's, there's a tweet saying it was "tip" they got (https://twitter.com/farhanmohamed/status/687869883334422528); but there's a pic that may have been what they ran the story based on (https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/687878405350531072); note the intended audience/nature of the information.

[Hehe]

Imagine what would happen to GVR RE if a terrorist attack takes place in PC? That's where all the fuerdai goes to spend their money!

[twitchyzero]

Why the fail in the first post. Yes it's a judgement call and yes I hope it's something totally innocent. But Like above me, better safe than fuckin sorry. Trust your gut

1. VCB article

2. VCB chose to include their ethnic background in the title

[i-vtecyo]

edit*

read that wrong.

[pinn3r]

I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about

Would you rather have reactive police work, or proactive police work? Srs question; not trying to be flippant

Capturing exits/entrances is quite the deviant, and dare I say, suspicious behaviour... it isn't unreasonable to infer that these guys are up to no good. The police are being diligent in carrying out their mandate, which is to serve and protect the public.

Kinda looking at this from a utilitarian perspective... I'm okay with stigmatizing a few guys to ensure the safety of the general public. They could be innocent, for all we know; but as jonwon so candidly put it... better safe than sorry.

But, man, you're right; this is definitely something to be discussed

[haymura]

There's always gonna be a debate between safety and fear getting the best of everyone and a lot of ppl will argue about making early assumptions or racial profiling but if worse case scenario it was an attack, then what do you tell the people who lost loved ones? Or how would you feel if someone you love was a victim? "Im sorry but we werent cautious enough because we didnt want to look like we were racist or a poor judge of character"

I definitely understand that there are borders that shouldnt be crossed but with the current situation happening around the world i think its justifiable that vancouver is being cautious and vigilant.

[StylinRed]

Why the fail in the first post. Yes it's a judgement call and yes I hope it's something totally innocent. But Like above me, better safe than fuckin sorry. Trust your gut

site rule to fail any buzz article linked :)

[320icar]

site rule to fail any buzz article linked :)

Sorry my bad. I was texted just the picture earlier tonight so I never clicked the link in this thread. Had no idea VCB was even mentioned in here. Failed accordingly

[Harvey Specter]

I'm thinking the guys were casing that particular area of the mall for a possible robbery.

[StylinRed]

I'm thinking the guys were casing that particular area of the mall for a possible robbery.

or...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdemFfbS5H0


:badpokerface:

[Noir]

I'm pretty torn since seeing this PSA looking for these three guys. If this is all the police are going on and has put out a request like this:

On the one hand, trying to prevent a crime before it happens is important, and it does seems like diligence by the police to bring people in for questioning for suspicious activity.

But on the other hand, imagine being these three guys in the video, and being innocent. You now have all of Vancouver looking at you as suspected violent terrorists even though you might have no ill intention or even having committed crime. This could potentially cause a lot of problems for their personal lives.

I guess the question I'm asking myself is, where do we draw the line and at what point do we let fear dominate our lives? If someone was looking up blueprints to city hall, does that give the government the authority to start electronically surveying them? I shouldn't think so. Taking photos and videos of a mall is public domain.... Imagine waking up and being wanted the by the police when you and your buddies were just walking around the mall taking photos.

The honest answer is I don't know, but it's definitely something we should start talking about

Your personal opinion, what would you rather they do?

[Hondaracer]

You don't want the public/police looking for you? Don't go around doing ultra suspicious shit

[BoostedBB6]

Not normal for anyone to take pictures of all the exits and entrances..

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.


EDIT: I see the photos now and its clear that they are not interested in anything like this and understand the reason for concern.

[murd0c]

I would rather the police being cautious about this and then wrong and not doing anything at all and something happening. It's sad but this isn't racist but the world we live in today.

[68style]

^ what are you even talking about that it requires 0 explanation for taking pics in public? So you're okay with pedophiles that sit at the edge of playgrounds takings pics of kids?

Like I said before the whole story doesn't get released to the public 100% as to not incite panic, but they have good reasons for asking these questions to identify. So much shit happens in this city every day and they never bother but this 1 time they're asking the public? It's because they know more than is being told.

Seriously, for this bulletin to be released it would have had to go through at least 3 levels of approval including the VPD and RCMP media liaisons. You don't think they know what the culture is like and would put something out with racist overtones? Give your heads a shake.

[pastarocket]

Who ever these three guys are, they are the three stooges. :lawl:

Don't they realize that all their suspicious activity is captured by Pacific Centre's security cameras??

Dumb asses.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61649627.jpg

[BoostedBB6]

I would rather the police being cautious about this and then wrong and not doing anything at all and something happening. It's sad but this isn't racist but the world we live in today.

It is a sad thing that the world is like this, but it always has been and I really don't think that will ever completely change.

[BoostedBB6]

^ what are you even talking about that it requires 0 explanation for taking pics in public? So you're okay with pedophiles that sit at the edge of playgrounds takings pics of kids?

Like I said before the whole story doesn't get released to the public 100% as to not incite panic, but they have good reasons for asking these questions to identify. So much shit happens in this city every day and they never bother but this 1 time they're asking the public? It's because they know more than is being told.

Seriously, for this bulletin to be released it would have had to go through at least 3 levels of approval including the VPD and RCMP media liaisons. You don't think they know what the culture is like and would put something out with racist overtones? Give your heads a shake.

I'm talking about legality, if you are in a public place you do not require anyone's consent to take there pictures.
I get what your saying and I agree. When I was in school this was a very sensitive thing. We made it a point to not photograph in specific areas like playgrounds and such. We did make a few outings to them as a class and informed anyone there what we were doing and no issues, but I get what your saying.
What I am saying is there is nothing in the law that says you are not allowed to and legally you are not required to get permission or any need to explain what you are doing as there are not laws being broken. If you are on private property then its a whole different story.

[The_AK]

site rule to fail any buzz article linked :)

My fail privileges were revoke after quote failing an unfailable mod on here

[kkttsang]

I'm talking about legality, if you are in a public place you do not require anyone's consent to take there pictures.
I get what your saying and I agree. When I was in school this was a very sensitive thing. We made it a point to not photograph in specific areas like playgrounds and such. We did make a few outings to them as a class and informed anyone there what we were doing and no issues, but I get what your saying.
What I am saying is there is nothing in the law that says you are not allowed to and legally you are not required to get permission or any need to explain what you are doing as there are not laws being broken. If you are on private property then its a whole different story.

Pacific centre is private property.

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[StylinRed]

Pacific centre is private property. it's private property that's open to the public

its been covered before, you may take photos in malls, and are only required to stop if told to by security, and even then you dont have to delete the photos you've already taken

[BoostedBB6]

Pacific centre is private property.

If they are on the exterior of the building they are not on private property. If inside the building they are.

EDIT: Yeahhh I had this wrong, any public accessible area is fair game for photography even in privately owned establishments as 320i posted further on.

[kkttsang]

If they are on the exterior of the building they are not on private property. If inside the building they are.

Did u see the photos, the are securities photos inside the mall. Sooooo.........they are inside the building therefore in private properties.......

[Sid Vicious]

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.

holy shit...this is a stupid fucking post.

if any normal person saw their face plastered all over the news being accused of suspicious activity, they would immediately call the police or the media and inform them of what they were doing.

since these 3 fuckers havent, well...

and here we go with the racism card...lol.

anyways, all over the world we have many cases of police being afraid to report suspicious activity or outright covering up crimes because they are afraid of being accused of being racist lol, and its people like you who are causing that haha

[BoostedBB6]

holy shit...this is a stupid fucking post.

if any normal person saw their face plastered all over the news being accused of suspicious activity, they would immediately call the police or the media and inform them of what they were doing.

since these 3 fuckers havent, well...

and here we go with the racism card...lol.

anyways, all over the world we have many cases of police being afraid to report suspicious activity or outright covering up crimes because they are afraid of being accused of being racist lol, and its people like you who are causing that haha

If by stupid you mean factual then you hit the nail right on the head.

[kkttsang]

it's private property that's open to the public

its been covered before, you may take photos in malls, and are only required to stop if told to by security, and even then you dont have to delete the photos you've already taken

I'm not arguing if it's ok or not to take photo inside.

I'm only arguing boosted point that "if it's private property it's a different story"
So was just letting him know they were inside the mall that's private property, nowhere in my post did I say taking photos were or were not allow.

[Sid Vicious]

If by stupid you mean factual then you hit the nail right on the head.

Yes, I'm sure their film/photo enthusiasts taking pictures of PCS beautiful and artistic exits/entrances

or their students who were given a project studying mall exits and entrances

[BoostedBB6]

Yes, I'm sure their film/photo enthusiasts taking pictures of PCS beautiful and artistic exits/entrances

or their students who were given a project studying mall exits and entrances

Photography is an art. The assignment was to capture what you interpret as wealth and IMO someone who wears $1000 shoes and spends many more thousands in a shopping centre can be a great representation of that.

Example below.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mef0ZABR1qfk8z0o1_500.jpg

EDIT: Just saw the pictures of these guys......yeahhhhhhh No. Disregard this one :P

[Sid Vicious]

Photography is an art. The assignment was to capture what you interpret as wealth and IMO someone who wears $1000 shoes and spends many more thousands in a shopping centre can be a great representation of that.

Example below.



like i said, if they actually had an art assignment they would just call the police and told them so and this would be cleared up. why havent they?

[jasonturbo]

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.

Yeah and you were probably walking around with some sort of fancy Canon/Nikon camera and were interacting with people who obviously knew what you were doing.

This is 3 "military age males" with cell phone cameras presumably not interacting with anyone and seemingly being only interested in building security/access/egress.

[BoostedBB6]

like i said, if they actually had an art assignment they would just call the police and told them so and this would be cleared up. why havent they?

Like I said, I see the need for concern HOWEVER nothing they did was illegal. As for why they have not called the police or what not, there could be any number of reasons but that would be a good idea to do. If they have not see a news article then perhaps that would be why they have not done anything about it.

[BoostedBB6]

I'm not arguing if it's ok or not to take photo inside.

I'm only arguing boosted point that "if it's private property it's a different story"
So was just letting him know they were inside the mall that's private property, nowhere in my post did I say taking photos were or were not allow.

You are correct, however if photography is not allowed in a privately owned space then it is often noted near an entrance or enforced by security.

Believe me, seeing these guys walking around with there phones taking pictures I would personally be contacting mall security. Its not like they were taking pictures of there friends for a selfie style photo or anything. I get why there is concern and IMO I would be as well.
Everyone is so PC these days that they will let things that are not right happen simply because they think that somehow they will be labelled a racist. Needs to stop and people need to pull there heads out of there asses.

[iwantaskyline]

When I was in school for photography at Foal Point we were given assignments to do. One was to capture an image of wealth.
That day I spent 3 hours outside of a mall getting pictures of people with there purchases of high end clothing and brands.

Not once did anyone bat an eyelash.

Given the number of film/photography students and enthusiasts in the lower mainland, I dont see this as being "not normal".

Change middle eastern to white dude and no one would think anything.
Not to say that something COULD be going on, but taking pictures is completely legal and requires 0 explanation to anyone for doing so.

Sorry but with the way things are in the world regarding muslims -- if you are muslim don't do anything suspicious should be common sense.

[BoostedBB6]

Sorry but with the way things are in the world regarding muslims -- if you are muslim don't do anything suspicious should be common sense.

I completely agree, its a shit reality but it is reality.

[Noir]

You are correct, however if photography is not allowed in a privately owned space then it is often noted near an entrance or enforced by security.

Believe me, seeing these guys walking around with there phones taking pictures I would personally be contacting mall security. Its not like they were taking pictures of there friends for a selfie style photo or anything. I get why there is concern and IMO I would be as well.
Everyone is so PC these days that they will let things that are not right happen simply because they think that somehow they will be labelled a racist. Needs to stop and people need to pull there heads out of there asses.

Yes, it's not illegal but these individuals are not under arrest either. So what's your point?

What's your personal opinion? Do you think the authorities should've just ignore a suspicious incident or look into it. (I'm being careful with my words here. I'm not using "arrest" or "detain").



Everyone remember the mystery tunnel in Toronto that was found near the Pan Am Games venue?

Toronto Mystery Tunnel (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/toronto-tunnel-police-say-investigation-is-over-after-two-men-confess-they-dug-hole-for-personal-reasons)

When the police found out who dug the tunnels and confirmed there was "no criminal intent", that was pretty much the end of that story. If this incident is truly harmless in nature, I don't see why it would not yield the same result as that of the Mystery Tunnel.

[The_AK]

Photography is an art. The assignment was to capture what you interpret as wealth and IMO someone who wears $1000 shoes and spends many more thousands in a shopping centre can be a great representation of that.

Example below.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mef0ZABR1qfk8z0o1_500.jpg
*edit*

[Manic!]

Sorry but with the way things are in the world regarding muslims -- if you are muslim don't do anything suspicious should be common sense.

And black people should not whistle at white girls.

White people in North America are so spoiled it's not even funny.

[iwantaskyline]

And black people should not whistle at white girls.

White people in North America are so spoiled it's not even funny.

Your post is completely out of context... The situation regarding muslims/arabs in the world is nothing similar to any race on this planet. We're lucky we have the atlantic ocean separating us and the middle east. Look at Europe right now, people are going bonkers of the nye attacks.

[BoostedBB6]

And black people should not whistle at white girls.

White people in North America are so spoiled it's not even funny.

I get what your saying but do you believe it would be different if there were a group of "white" people flying planes into buildings, or bombing events or shooting up whole stadiums of people in the name of Christianity?

These are the reasons why there being looked at like this. I would not imagine it would be any different if it were another group of people.

[BoostedBB6]

Yes, it's not illegal but these individuals are not under arrest either. So what's your point?

What's your personal opinion? Do you think the authorities should've just ignore a suspicious incident or look into it. (I'm being careful with my words here. I'm not using "arrest" or "detain").



Everyone remember the mystery tunnel in Toronto that was found near the Pan Am Games venue?

Toronto Mystery Tunnel (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/toronto-tunnel-police-say-investigation-is-over-after-two-men-confess-they-dug-hole-for-personal-reasons)

When the police found out who dug the tunnels and confirmed there was "no criminal intent", that was pretty much the end of that story. If this incident is truly harmless in nature, I don't see why it would not yield the same result as that of the Mystery Tunnel.

My point is it is not illegal, that was it.
My opinion is that it is very suspicious, and the exact reasons (as a photographer) why I think about what and where I am shooting before I do it. Its not hard to understand the reasoning behind the concern and if I saw them doing this I would report it to the mall security right away.

[rageguy]

Keep in mind that the notice is confidential and meant for VPD members only. Someone internally leaked it to VancityBuzz, and since it has been leaked, VPD had no choice but to make it public.

[Galactic_Phantom]

Why are people getting their panties in a bunch over VCB using Middle Eastern to describe these people. When cops have suspicion on figures of interested they will label what ethnicity the person is. Fuck this age of PC. Everything sets people off as a racism or whatever. First thing I thought of was guys scoping out for a robbery. Not a terrorist plot

[Manic!]

I get what your saying but do you believe it would be different if there were a group of "white" people flying planes into buildings, or bombing events or shooting up whole stadiums of people in the name of Christianity?

These are the reasons why there being looked at like this. I would not imagine it would be any different if it were another group of people.

Yes. If a group of armed brown people where to take over a federal building they would not be allowed to hang out there for 14 plus days like these idiots. Bundy: Meeting between armed group, locals in limbo (http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-county-refuge-occupiers-cant-meet-fairgrounds-174659407.html)

and remember this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

[Sid Vicious]

Yes. If a group of armed brown people where to take over a federal building they would not be allowed to hang out there for 14 plus days like these idiots. Bundy: Meeting between armed group, locals in limbo (http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-county-refuge-occupiers-cant-meet-fairgrounds-174659407.html)

and remember this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Great, one bombing in 1995.

taken from wikipedia, here are a list of islamic terror attacks in 2015 alone

Afghanistan January 5, 2015 – A car packed with explosives drove up to the headquarters of EUPOL Afghanistan, a European police-training organization, in Kabul and detonated. Taliban claimed responsibility. 1 killed 16 wounded.[90]
Iraq January 6, 2015 – Two suicide bombers attacked a mosque in the town of Al-Jubba while Iraqi soldiers were resting, killing 10 soldiers plus the two attackers. Clashes following the bombings left 13 security personnel dead and 21 wounded.[91]
France January 7–9, 2015 – A series of five attacks in and around Paris kill 17 people, plus three attackers, and leave 22 other people injured.
Nigeria January 8, 2015 – 2015 Baga massacre. Boko Haram attacks town of Baga in northern Nigeria killing at least 200 people. Another 2000 are unaccounted for.[92]
France January 9, 2015 - The Porte de Vincennes hostage crisis kills 4 and injures 9 people.
Lebanon January 10, 2015 – In the 2015 Jabal Mohsen suicide attacks 9 people died and 30+ were wounded.
Egypt January 29, 2015 – January 2015 Sinai attacks. 44 killed, several wounded.
Pakistan January 30, 2015 – Suicide bomber killed at least 55, injuring at least 59 in a Shiite mosque in southern Pakistan.[93]
Pakistan February 13, 2015 – Heavily armed militants killed at least 19 people and wounded more than 40 after they stormed into a Shiite mosque during Friday Prayer in a suburb of Peshawar.[94]
Denmark February 14–15, 2015 – 2015 Copenhagen shootings. A gunman opened fire at the Krudttoenden café and later at the Great Synagogue in Copenhagen, killing two civilians and injuring five others.[95]
Nigeria March 7, 2015 – Five suicide bomb blasts leave 58 dead and 143 wounded in the 2015 Maiduguri suicide bombing.
Pakistan March 15, 2015 – Suicide bombers kill at least 15 people in attacks on two churches in Lahore.[96]
Tunisia March 18, 2015 – Bardo National Museum attack. Militants linked to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) attack the Bardo National Museum with guns, killing 21 people and injuring around 50.[97]
Yemen March 20, 2015 – 2015 Sana'a mosque bombings. 135 killed in bombings on several mosques by ISIL.[98]
Libya March 25, 2015 – ISIL affiliates, The Shura Council of Benghazi Revolutionaries in Libya carried out suicide bombings in the city of Benghazi. Twelve were killed and 25 wounded. Five additional dead during attacks with a local militia.[99]
Somalia March 27, 2015 – Makka al-Mukarama hotel attack. 20+ dead 28 wounded.
Kenya April 2, 2015 – 148 people—most of them Christian students—killed in Al-Shabaab's Garissa University College attack.[100]
Saudi Arabia April 8, 2015 – In the city of Riyadh two policemen are shot dead. ISIL is blamed to be behind the attack.[101][102]
Somalia April 14, 2015 – Militants of Al-Shabaab attack a government building in Mogadishu in the 2015 Ministry of Higher Education attack. 17 dead 15 wounded.
Iraq April 17, 2015 – A series of bombings by the ISIL occurred through Baghdad. 40+ killed 59+ injured.[103]
Iraq April 17, 2015 – A car bomb exploded at the entrance of the US consulate in Erbil, Iraq. ISIL took credit for the attack. 3 killed 5 wounded.[104]
Afghanistan April 18, 2015 – A suicide bomb detonated in front of a bank in Jalalabad, Afghanistan. ISIL claims responsibility. 33 killed 100+ injured.[105]
France April 19, 2015 – A 32-year Frenchwoman is murdered by a gunman whose plot to attack a church is foiled shortly after.[106]
Somalia April 20, 2015 – A minivan of UN workers was bombed by Al-Shabaab in the Puntland region of Somalia. 9 dead 4 injured.[107]
Bosnia and Herzegovina April 27, 2015 – At the Zvornik police station terrorist attack in the city of Zvornik, Republika Srpska, in Bosnia and Herzegovina, an armed member of a wahhabist movement opened fire on the police. In the shooting, a police officer was killed, two others were injured, and the attacker was killed by police.[108]
Iraq May 3, 2015 – Two car bombs were detonated ten minutes apart in Baghdad, Iraq. Nineteen were killed and an unknown number wounded. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attacks.[109]
United States May 3, 2015 – Two gunmen attacked the Curtis Culwell Center during a 'Draw Muhammad' cartoon art exhibit in Garland, Texas . 2 dead (perpetrators) 1 injured.[110][111][112][113][114]
Afghanistan May 3, 2015 – Taliban militants overran checkpoints in Warduj, killing 17 policemen.[115]
Afghanistan May 4, 2015 – A government bus was attacked by a suicide bomber in Kabul, killing one person and injuring 15 others.[116]
Iraq May 10, 2015 – Two car bombs were detonated ten minutes apart in Baghdad, Iraq and surrounding towns of Taji and Tarmiyah. ISIS claims responsibility. 14 were killed and wounding 30.[117]
Afghanistan May 10, 2015 – A bus carrying Afghan government employees was attacked in Kabul by a suicide bomber, killing 3 people and injuring 10. Taliban claimed responsibility.[118]
Pakistan May 13, 2015 – A bus carrying Shia Muslims was attacked by six armed gunman who rode up in motorcycles. Several Islamist groups claim responsibility. 45 dead 13 injured.[119]
Afghanistan May 14, 2015 – A hotel that was hosting a cultural event was attacked by Taliban fighters in Kabul leaving 14 dead including an American, an Italian, and 4 Indians.[120]
Afghanistan May 17, 2015 – A Taliban suicide attack near the entrance of Hamid Karzai International Airport targeting a European police training vehicle. 3 dead 18 injured.[121]
Afghanistan May 19, 2015 – A suicide car bombing detonated in the parking lot of a Justice Ministry building in the diplomatic section of Kabul, killing 4 people wounding 42.[122]
Libya May 21, 2015 – A suicide bomber detonated his explosives at a military checkpoint outside of Misrata killing himself and two guards.[123]
Saudi Arabia May 22, 2015 – A suicide bomber attacked a Shia mosque during prayer in the al-Qadeeh village. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack. 21 dead +90 injured.[124]
Afghanistan May 25, 2015 – Taliban militants killed 19 policemen and six soldiers during a siege at a police compound in Nawzad District of Afghanistan.[125]
Kenya May 26, 2015 – Al-Shabaab militants attacked two police patrols which turned into a gun battle north of Garissa, 5 police officers were injured but they were able to kill both of the attackers.[126]
Iraq May 28, 2015 – Two car bombs were set off minutes apart targeting the Cristal Grand Ishtar Hotel and the Babylon. 10 killed and 30 wounded.[127]
Saudi Arabia May 29, 2015 – A suicide bomber attacked a Shia mosque in Dammam detonating the bomb in the parking lot. 4 killed, unknown injured.[128]
Iraq June 1, 2015 – Three suicide bombers in humvees attacked an Iraqi police station in the Tharthar region in Northern Anbar Province. 41 dead, 63 wounded.[129]
Turkey June 5, 2015 – 2015 Diyarbakır rally bombings – Twin bombing of a Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) rally. 4 dead, over 100 injured.[130][131]
Iraq June 13, 2015 – Four suicide SUV car bombs went off in an Iraqi police station in the Hajjaj near Tikrit and Baiji. 11 dead, 27 injured.[132]
France June 26, 2015 – Saint-Quentin-Fallavier attack – Beheading in a factory near Lyon, head marked with Arabic writing and Islamist flags. Gas canisters planted provoked a fire. 1 dead, 11 injured.[133]
Kuwait June 26, 2015 – 2015 Kuwait mosque bombing – 27 people killed in explosion at Shia Imam Sadiq mosque in Kuwait City, medical sources tell Al Jazeera. Claimed by ISIS
Tunisia June 26, 2015 – 2015 Sousse attack – Attack in Tunisia against two tourist hotels, over 28 people died.
Somalia June 26, 2015 – Battle of Leego (2015) Attack on AMISOM base in Somalia with a car bomb, assault rifles and RPGs, causing over 30 military deaths.
Nigeria June 26-30, 2015 - Boko Haram kills at least 200 people as they gun down and bomb villages, mosques, and other public space.[134]
Israel June 29, 2015 – 2015 Shuvat Rachel shooting shooting attack on civilian car, 1 death.
Nigeria July 5, 2015 - Two bombs explode at an elite restaurant and mosque, killing at least 15 people in Jos.[135]
Nigeria July 7, 2015 - A bomb explodes in a government office in Zaria, killing 20 people.[136]
Cameroon July 13, 2015 - 2 suicide bombers explode in a bar in the town of Fotokol and kill 13 people, including a soldier from Chad who was killed in the second explosion.[137]
Nigeria July 17, 2015 - Two Nigerian towns are attacked by two suicide bombers, killing 62 people.[138]
Turkey July 20, 2015 – 2015 Suruç bombing Suicide bombing killed 33 people and injured 104 in Kurdish majority city of Suruç. ISIL claims responsibility.[139]
Nigeria July 22, 2015 - A series of explosions at two bus stations in Gombe kill about 40 people.[140]
Cameroon July 26, 2015 - A suicide bomber kills at least 14 people at a popular nightclub in Maruoa, just three days after 2 suicide bombers killed 20 people in the same town.[141]
Nigeria August 11, 2015 - 47 people are killed as explosions erupt at a crowded market in the town of Sabon Gari.[142]
Iraq August 13, 2015 – 2015 Baghdad market truck bombing A truck bomb in a Baghdad market killed more than 70 and injures 200.[143]
France August 21, 2015 – 2015 Thalys train attack Shooting and stabbing in train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris injures 5. The incident is believed by French police to be an Islamist terrorist attack.[144]
Nigeria August 28-30, 2015 - Boko Haram members massacre 79 people in 3 different Nigerian villages. 68 alone were killed in the village of Baanu.[145]
Nigeria September 10, 2015 - Explosion at a refugee camp for people fleeing Boko Haram kills at least 2.[146]
Iraq September 17, 2015 – Two suicide bombings in Baghdad killed 10 and injured 55. ISIL claims responsibility.[147]
Germany September 17, 2015 – An Islamist of Iraqi descent attacked and injured a police officer with a knife in Berlin. 1 injured, 1 dead (perpetrator).[148]
Nigeria September 21, 2015 - At least 54 people were killed by multiple explosions in Nigeria.[149]
Yemen September 24, 2015 – A bomb attack on a Shia mosque in Sana'a killed 25 and injured dozens more during prayers for the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha. Claimed by ISIL.[150]
BangladeshItaly September 29, 2015 – Three men on a motorbike shot and killed an Italian aid worker. The attack has been claimed by ISIL.[151]
Nigeria October 1, 2015 – Multiple suicide bombings by Boko Haram in North-East Nigeria killed 14 people (including the bombers) and injured 39.[152]
Israel October 1, 2015 – Gunmen opened fire on a car near Nablus on the northern West Bank, killing a man and woman. 4 of their 6 children were also in the car and witnessed the attack, but were uninjured. The attackers have been praised by Hamas.[153][154]
Australia October 2, 2015 – 2015 Parramatta shooting. A NSW Police Force civilian employee was shot dead outside NSW Police Force headquarters on Charles Street, Parramatta, Sydney by a 15-year old lone gunman. The gunman then engaged with NSW Police Special Constables in a shootout before being killed, 2 dead.[155]
BangladeshJapan October 3, 2015 – A Japanese man was shot and killed in a similar fashion to an Italian aid worker killed 4 days earlier. The attack has been claimed by ISIS.[156]
Iraq October 3, 2015 – In Baghdad, two suicide bombings in Shiite majority neighbourhoods kill at least 18 people and injure 61. Attack claimed by ISIS.[157]
Afghanistan October 5, 2015 – Two suicide bombings in Kabul targeted an Afghan intelligence centre. 3 people were injured in the attack, claimed by the Taliban.[158][159]
Somalia October 7, 2015 – Militants of Al-Shabaab ambushed and killed the nephew of Somalia's president, Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. 2 dead.[160]
Turkey October 10, 2015 - In the 2015 Ankara bombings 102 people were killed and over 400 others injured. According to two high ranked sources in the Turkish security forces ISIS is most likely responsible.[161][162]
Chad October 10, 2015 – Multiple suicide bombings in Chad killed 33 people and injured 51. The attack is believed to be the work of Boko Haram.[163]
AfghanistanUnited Kingdom October 11, 2015 – A bomb attack in Kabul, targeting a British military convoy injured 7 Afghan civilians. The attack has been claimed by the Taliban.[164]
Nigeria October 22, 2015 – 20 people were killed in the northeast state of Borno, Nigeria in a Boko Haram attack.[165]
Nigeria October 23, 2015 – Two separate mosques were attacked by suicide bombers, killing 42 in Nigeria.[166]
Niger October 28, 2015 - Boko Haram militants attack a village in Niger, gunning down 13 people and allegedly burning down houses and cars during the rampage.[167]
EgyptRussia October 31, 2015 – Bomb on board a Russian jet brings it down in Sinai, bound for St Petersburg, killing 224 people.[168]
Lebanon November 12, 2015 – Twin suicide bombings kill 42 people in the capital city of Beirut.[169]
France November 13, 2015 – A series of terrorist attacks in Paris kill 137, and wound 368. They involved a series of coordinated attacks which consisted of mass shootings and suicide bombings. This incident was the most fatal event on French soil since World War II.[170]
Iraq November 13, 2015 - A Suicide bomber kills at least 21 at a Shia funeral.[171]
PhilippinesMalaysia November 17, 2015 – A Malaysian national is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf in the southern Philippines.[172]
Nigeria November 17, 2015 – A suicide attack at a market in Yola killed more than 30 people and hospitalised more than 80. The attack is thought to be the work of Boko Haram.[173]
France November 18, 2015 – A Jewish history teacher was stabbed in the arm and leg by three Islamists in Marseille.[174]
Bosnia and Herzegovina November 18, 2015 – A lone wolf Islamist killed two soldiers and injured civilians in Sarajevo. 3 dead 5 wounded.[175]
Nigeria November 18, 2015 – Two explosions rock a phone market in Kano killing at least 15 people and injuring more than 100. Boko Haram is suspected to be behind it.[176]
Mali November 20, 2015 – Bamako hotel attack. Gunmen yelling "Allahu Akbar" storm a hotel in Bamako, Mali. At least 19 killed, and more than 160 were taken hostage.
Iraq November 20, 2015 – A Suicide bomber detonates inside a Shiite mosque killing 10 people, other bombings in the area killed another 5 people.[177]
Cameroon November 21, 2015 – Suicide bombers affiliated with Boko Haram kill at least 10 in northern Cameroon.[178]
Nigeria November 22, 2015 – 8 people among women and children demise when a female suicide bomber is reduced to pulp.[179]
Tunisia November 24, 2015 – At least 12 people were killed in a bus bombing in Tunis, the capital of Tunisia. ISIS claimed responsibility for this attack that targeted a bus transporting members of the Presidential Guard. [180]
Egypt November 24, 2015 – In the November 2015 Sinai attack which occurred a day after the second round of parliamentary elections closed, militants attack a hotel housing election judges in the provincial capital of al-Arish in Egypt's North Sinai. 7 dead, 10+ wounded[181]
Niger November 25, 2015 – Boko Haram invades a village and shoots indiscriminately residents and also fire rockets, killing 18.[182]
Nigeria November 27, 2015 – 21 killed in Boko Haram suicide attack on a Shia procession in Nigeria[183]
Egypt November 28, 2015 – Islamist gunmen killed four security personnel in an attack at a police checkpoint in Saqqara. 4 dead[184]
Mali November 28, 2015 – Militants fired rockets on a MINUSMA peacekeeping forces base in northern Mali. Ansar Dine claimed responsibility. 3 dead, 20 wounded.[185]
United States December 2, 2015 – In the 2015 San Bernardino attack, two people, one of whom posted on Facebook an "oath of allegiance" to the leader of ISIL, shot and killed 14 people and injured 21 others in a killing spree that the FBI was investigating as "act of terrorism".[186][187]
Chad December 5, 2015 – Four female suicide bombers from the militant Islamist group Boko Haram attacked the Chadian island of Koulfoua on Lake Chad, killing at least 15 people and injuring 130.[188]
Yemen December 6, 2015 – The governor of the southern port city of Aden in Yemen, Jaafar Mohammed Saad, was killed in a car bomb attack. The assassination was claimed by ISIS.[189]
Egypt December 8, 2015 – An explosive device by Islamists targeting a military convoy went off in Rafah. 4 dead 4 injured.[190]
Iraq December 9, 2015 – A suicide bomber detonated his explosives at in the doorway of a Shiite mosque. 11+ dead 20 injured.[191]
AfghanistanSpain December 11, 2015 – In the 2015 Spanish Embassy attack in Kabul, Taliban militants detonated a car bomb and stormed a guesthouse near the Spanish embassy. 6 dead, several injured.[192]
Syria December 11, 2015 – In the Tell Tamer bombings three truck bombs by ISIS killed up to 60 people and injured more than 80 in the town of Tell Tamer.[193]
Iraq January 11, 2016 - ISIS gunmen detonate suicide vests in a shopping mall, killing at least 20 and wounding more than 40 people.[194]

[BoostedBB6]

Yes. If a group of armed brown people where to take over a federal building they would not be allowed to hang out there for 14 plus days like these idiots. Bundy: Meeting between armed group, locals in limbo (http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-county-refuge-occupiers-cant-meet-fairgrounds-174659407.html)

and remember this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Based upon recent happenings, if a group of "brown people" were to take over a federal building then chances are they would be killing people and therefore be killed themselves. I'm not saying that "white" people dont do similar things, but if your going to argue that there has not be a VAST difference between what these two compared groups have done then there is no point in discussing it.

See Sid Vicious reply. Sid and I clearly don't see eye to eye and that's cool with me, but this is why things are the way they are.

[320icar]

Boostedbb6, if you are on private property or not, if you are in a OPENLY PUBLIC PLACE that is accessible to all, there is zero assumed privacy. People are allowed to take photos of things and people and it is their right. You don't want your picture taken? Stay at home.

So what the hell does your argument have to do with private malls and this discussion of possible terrorist threats

[Manic!]

Your post is completely out of context... The situation regarding muslims/arabs in the world is nothing similar to any race on this planet. We're lucky we have the atlantic ocean separating us and the middle east. Look at Europe right now, people are going bonkers of the nye attacks.

You do know that Jesus was a military aged male of middle eastern descent right? and that white people can also be Muslim.

[320icar]

Let's not bring imaginary characters into this convo now manic :p

[BoostedBB6]

Boostedbb6, if you are on private property or not, if you are in a OPENLY PUBLIC PLACE that is accessible to all, there is zero assumed privacy. People are allowed to take photos of things and people and it is their right. You don't want your picture taken? Stay at home.

So what the hell does your argument have to do with private malls and this discussion of possible terrorist threats

That is what I said, its not illegal to take the photos they did. I'm not arguing, simply stating a fact.

[GLOW]

http://i64.tinypic.com/20iuasp.jpg

reminds me of an honest quote from mark cuban.

“I also try not to be a hypocrite. I know I'm prejudiced. I know I'm bigoted in a lot of different ways,” he said. “I've said this before. If I see a black kid in a hoodie at night on the same side of the street, I'm probably going to walk to other side of the street. If I see a white guy with a shaved head and lots of tattoos, I'm going back to the other side of the street. If I see anybody that looks threatening, and I try not to, but part of me takes into account race and gender and image. I'm prejudiced. Other than for safety issues, I try to always catch my prejudices and be very self-aware.”

[Tim Budong]

VPD says someone leaked the photos and info to the media...
they want to talk to these men

[320icar]

I'm sure someone said it in here too boostedbb6, but a young kid with ~$1500 or more in camera gear taking pictures of stores or people on Dutch angles and all that other typical film student crap is a pretty huge difference between 4-5 large men in their 30's armed with shitty cell phones only interested in 'strategic targets' inside a high traffic public establishment

[BoostedBB6]

I'm sure someone said it in here too boostedbb6, but a young kid with ~$1500 or more in camera gear taking pictures of stores or people on Dutch angles and all that other typical film student crap is a pretty huge difference between 4-5 large men in their 30's armed with shitty cell phones only interested in 'strategic targets' inside a high traffic public establishment

I'm not arguing that, simply pointing out that what they did is well within there legal limits BUT, again, I see the reason why there is concern.

[Manic!]

Great, one bombing in 1995.

taken from wikipedia, here are a list of islamic terror attacks in 2015 alone



You want me to list all the sh/t the US has done in foreign countries?

Let's start with giving that's right giving Saddam Hussein weapons of mass destruction and training and giving weapons to Osama Bin Laden and his buddies.

And look at all the goverments the US has overthrown: Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown | Foreign Policy (http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/20/mapped-the-7-governments-the-u-s-has-overthrown/)

[Gh0stRider]

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2016/01/15/live-vancouver-police-discuss-reports-of-3-suspicious-men-filming-pacific-centre-mall/

[The_AK]

Police discuss reports of 3 ?suspicious men? filming Vancouver mall | Vancouver Sun (http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2016/01/15/live-vancouver-police-discuss-reports-of-3-suspicious-men-filming-pacific-centre-mall/)

Interesting, so the photos were actually leaked. Makes you wonder how much other suspicious activity takes place that no one ever hears about.

[BoostedBB6]

Interesting, so the photos were actually leaked. Makes you wonder how much other suspicious activity takes place that no one ever hears about.

I have a few friends who are officers and there is A LOT that never makes it to the news.

[spideyv2]

Why are people getting their panties in a bunch over VCB using Middle Eastern to describe these people. When cops have suspicion on figures of interested they will label what ethnicity the person is. Fuck this age of PC. Everything sets people off as a racism or whatever. First thing I thought of was guys scoping out for a robbery. Not a terrorist plot

http://img.ifcdn.com/images/b415bc0d21ea0f382c6787f55a67c579808bc6a5b85d31f69b 995f749b58eacb_3.jpg

srs

[Gumby]

Photography is an art. The assignment was to capture what you interpret as wealth and IMO someone who wears $1000 shoes and spends many more thousands in a shopping centre can be a great representation of that.

Example below.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mef0ZABR1qfk8z0o1_500.jpg

Off topic - but that's a great photo! :)

[rageguy]

I hope VancityBuzz will stop their horrible journalism. They were the first to leak the internal document. Suspicious activity are reported every day, some of you here may have been reported at one point in your life over nothing. A group of Chinese people hanging out at Metrotown McDonalds wearing black hoodies and smoking? That's enough to get you called in.

Now imagine VancityBuzz leaked a picture of you. There goes your reputation.

[willystyle]

I hope VancityBuzz will stop their horrible journalism. They were the first to leak the internal document. Suspicious activity are reported every day, some of you here may have been reported at one point in your life over nothing. A group of Chinese people hanging out at Metrotown McDonalds wearing black hoodies and smoking? That's enough to get you called in.

Now imagine VancityBuzz leaked a picture of you. There goes your reputation.
I hope VCB goes out of business and die. Not only their journalism is poor, their comment section is oppressively maintained. They ban many that offer a constructive view.

The only decent writer they got is Kenneth Chan.

[StaxBundlez]

Vancouver police seek three men seen filming inside Pacific Centre (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/vancouver+police+seek+three+seen+filming+inside+pa cific/11653315/story.html)

Video from Vancouver Sun.

[Chronix]

Some ppl need to take their PCness and shove it. There's a reason why racial profiling is a thing. They put themselves in the position in the first place. And with the reason acts of terrorism all over the place, I would rather have a preventative action than a clean up.

[Manic!]

Some ppl need to take their PCness and shove it. There's a reason why racial profiling is a thing. They put themselves in the position in the first place. And with the reason acts of terrorism all over the place, I would rather have a preventative action than a clean up.

There is a reason why everything is a thing but that does not make it right.

Racial profiling sure would have worked in Boston.

http://i0.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-square-twitter.jpg?resize=472%2C472

[Chronix]

^and he was the only one and the few incidents with different skin tone compared to other acts. Look at the STATS bruh.

[Manic!]

^and he was the only one and the few incidents with different skin tone compared to other acts. Look at the STATS bruh.

Stats for what. If you want to look at Muslim attacks it's not as one sided as you think just look at Russia. Also we know terrorists are stupid but there not that stupid. They are recruiting people that are white.

Also racial profiling does not work just look at the studies.

[Sid Vicious]

Stats for what. If you want to look at Muslim attacks it's not as one sided as you think just look at Russia. Also we know terrorists are stupid but there not that stupid. They are recruiting people that are white.

Also racial profiling does not work just look at the studies.

man aren't you tired of getting continuously wrecked in every thread you posted? you've resorted to grasping at straws right now and have yet to failed to form a coherent argument for anything

[Manic!]

man aren't you tired of getting continuously wrecked in every thread you posted? you've resorted to grasping at straws right now and have yet to failed to form a coherent argument for anything

Well racial profiling does not work and that's a fact and Russia has been dealing with attacks by Muslims for years who look like the Boston bombers.

[murd0c]

The more I hear people complain about race and racial profiling the more I think about the movie Bulworth and how it kinda makes sense :troll:


https://youtu.be/LD9cCpCcaos

[highfive]

Update: Three Men at Mall Identified | Vancouver Police Department (http://mediareleases.vpd.ca/2016/01/15/update-three-men-at-mall-identified/)

I guess we are safe.

[skyxx]

Could be an entourage team scouting out the mall before persons of royalty/high profile visit downtown.

[dlo]

they have been identified and the investigation is done, good to hear

[Noir]

I'm not arguing that, simply pointing out that what they did is well within there legal limits BUT, again, I see the reason why there is concern.

But then you're pointing out something EVERYONE already knows and EVERYONE has taken into account. I don't see the need to point this out as if to put some people in their place or put things into perspective. The context is entirely different and people are "specifically" reacting to this particular context.

And also, you have to give people some credit. No one is saying these individuals warrant getting arrested for their actions. However, people are just saying it warrants some investigation. That's all. Although your intentions are noble, all this SJWing is doing nothing but promoting the bias and anti-Muslim sentiment because you're insinuating that these are the primary factors for such public reactions and that the public wouldn't react the same had it been Caucasians performing the same suspicious acts.

Again, no one is asking for these guys to be arrested at all unless an investigation concluded their intentions were in fact malicious.

[shawnly1000]

GG Reddit
GG Internet armchair people

VPD say men filming in Pacific Centre ?completely innocent? | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/2457564/vpd-say-men-filming-in-pacific-centre-completely-innocent/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VjPM5CeWs

[meme405]

Can we refrain from giving Vancity Buzz an acronym, and if it was to be any acronym it would have to be VSB (vanshittyBUZZ), seriously poster above is bang on, poor sources, poor writing, and just generally disgusting and crappy content.

All they do is steal headlines off of Facebook, literally it isn't even journalism, any journalist would be disgusted that you call it that.

Half their articles just promote companies, places, and events for which the people have paid them money to endorse. That's not journalism, it's just a social media following.

[dat_steve]

Vancitybuzz to journalism is thefatjewish/fuckjerry to comdey.

[The_AK]

Can we refrain from giving Vancity Buzz an acronym, and if it was to be any acronym it would have to be VSB (vanshittyBUZZ), seriously poster above is bang on, poor sources, poor writing, and just generally disgusting and crappy content.

All they do is steal headlines off of Facebook, literally it isn't even journalism, any journalist would be disgusted that you call it that.

Half their articles just promote companies, places, and events for which the people have paid them money to endorse. That's not journalism, it's just a social media following.

I wonder if whoever leaked it sent it exclusively to them or if they were the first to push it out without anyone actually screening the article first? That being said I am guilty for sharing this article on facebook since they seemed to have it first before the real news outlets

[GS8]

I doubt anything will happen since the men were innocent BUT I really hope Vancity Buzz comes under fire for all this.

Wasted emotions over a non-issue. Leaking something to the public to claim a 'me first' victory. What a fucking joke. Pages like theirs are a cancer to social media.

And WTF do they do with all the ad revenue they generate? They certainly don't hire good writers...

[Hondaracer]

Lock em up anyways

[yray]

lol that's why the owner is BC's top 30 under 30.

[nsmb]

Update: Three Men at Mall Identified | Vancouver Police Department (http://mediareleases.vpd.ca/2016/01/15/update-three-men-at-mall-identified/)

I guess we are safe.


https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0347/21/1410197812819.jpg

:troll:

[noclue]

Everyone's trying to portray a nice PC friendly Canadian value image but we all know we'll run for it as soon as someone shouts "Allah Ackbar"

[twitchyzero]

Why are people getting their panties in a bunch over VCB using Middle Eastern to describe these people. When cops have suspicion on figures of interested they will label what ethnicity the person is. Fuck this age of PC. Everything sets people off as a racism or whatever. First thing I thought of was guys scoping out for a robbery. Not a terrorist plot

in a statement to describe persons of interest, not in a headline

Everyone's trying to portray a nice PC friendly Canadian value image but we all know we'll run for it as soon as someone shouts "Allah Ackbar"

if I see everyone running the other way, yes :badpokerface:

[StylinRed]

Listening to all the bigots trying to justify their bigotry today, omg it's like going to a good comedy show

There's a line between being concerned with auspicious activity and full blown racism, its shocking how many easily waltzed over that line, most have egg on their face now but some die hards are saying "yeah, got a problem with it?"

[Manic!]

Everyone's trying to portray a nice PC friendly Canadian value image but we all know we'll run for it as soon as someone shouts "Allah Ackbar"

Do you even know what Allah Ackbar means?

[meme405]

Do you even know what Allah Ackbar means?

Nothing because the real phrase is "allahu akbar".

Most people have no idea what it means, these are the same people who might actually believe that "derka, derka" means something in islamic or to other middle eastern people. HINT: it means fucking nothing you racists. (although it is kinda funny, and team america is a hilarious movie).

[Harvey Specter]

I seriously despise VancityBuzz and this article further fuels my dislike for the site and the people running it.

And the co-founder should know better posting stuff on his site that never should have been posted and feeds xenophobia whack jobs, imagine if someone posted his picture and called him a "terrorist" because of his turban...

http://widejko.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/manny-bahia-vancitybuzz-widejko.jpg

[shawnly1000]

:facepalm::fulloffuck:

Wow..VCB's response, plea of we weren't told not to release it...

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2016/01/pacific-centre-response/

[Noir]

Listening to all the bigots trying to justify their bigotry today, omg it's like going to a good comedy show

There's a line between being concerned with auspicious activity and full blown racism, its shocking how many easily waltzed over that line, most have egg on their face now but some die hards are saying "yeah, got a problem with it?"

Really? How many? because I looked all the way back to page 1 and other than a couple of posters, I don't really see much making issue about the individual's race or religion but more so the action in question itself.

Unless you're trying to paint a certain picture generalizing typical western individuals based on a few posters, maybe consider that you are no better than the people you vilify.

[Gucci Mane]

so this is the reason those guys were taking pictures,

Late on Friday, Global News learned what that logical explanation was. The youngest of the three males is a 14-year-old from England with vision impairment, and the two adults with him – his father and a family friend – were taking additional photos and video so he could better remember his visit to Canada after the fact.

“Because they don’t see well, they take more photos,” said Dr. Weidong Yu of the Wellspring Clinic, who said the family was in Vancouver so the child could receive treatment from him, and that they phoned Vancouver Police from his office Friday morning.

“It’s an innocent accident.”

http://globalnews.ca/news/2457564/vpd-say-men-filming-in-pacific-centre-completely-innocent/

[StylinRed]

Really? How many? because I looked all the way back to page 1 and other than a couple of posters, I don't really see much making issue about the individual's race or religion but more so the action in question itself.

Unless you're trying to paint a certain picture generalizing typical western individuals based on a few posters, maybe consider that you are no better than the people you vilify.

I wasn't speaking about RS, as i didn't even begin to enjoy reading the updates on here yet when i posted, was speaking more along the lines of in the office, facebook, and the vcb articles comments section

edit: to add, I never said everyone responding to the incident was racist, you should note I said there was a line between being concerned and being racist, I said many had crossed that line, and that is true, but not all

[Harvey Specter]

so this is the reason those guys were taking pictures,



VPD say men filming in Pacific Centre ?completely innocent? | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/2457564/vpd-say-men-filming-in-pacific-centre-completely-innocent/)

Wow, just wow. Wonder if they can lawyer up and sue.

[Gucci Mane]

Wow, just wow. Wonder if they can lawyer up and sue.

i sure as fuck would try.

[Spoon]

I'm surprised nobody's started a gofundme campaign to sue VCB :drunk:

[GS8]

so this is the reason those guys were taking pictures,



VPD say men filming in Pacific Centre ?completely innocent? | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/2457564/vpd-say-men-filming-in-pacific-centre-completely-innocent/)

INB4 people brush it off because of 'dat mid east heritage doe'

...

I hope Vancity Buzz burns alive

[Drow]

Given the light of recent events ard the world its better safe than sorry. Id rather take the chance and "offend" some middle easterns than to give benefit of the doubt and suffer the consequences.

[StylinRed]

Given the light of recent events ard the world its better safe than sorry. Id rather take the chance and "offend" some middle easterns than to give benefit of the doubt and suffer the consequences.

think this applies to those going 'better safe than sorry'
What if these 3 innocent men were assaulted or worse because of this fear mongering caused by Buzz? Worse yet, what if the apparent racist commenters were stirred up to vent their anger on say, refugees celebrating their arrival in Vancouver? How can you sit idly by and berate those mocking the bigoted fear mongers among us? Don't you have any shame?

Or let's play devils advocate and say, what if these 3 were as we feared, and upon news that they've been identified they decided to carry out plans ASAP, well there goes the chance of the police identifying the suspects and pouncing on them before anything is committed.

^^

[Harvey Specter]

http://www.noahprophecy.info/img/malcom_x.jpg

[Manic!]

Given the light of recent events ard the world its better safe than sorry. Id rather take the chance and "offend" some middle easterns than to give benefit of the doubt and suffer the consequences.

I bet you would not feel that way if you where anal probed at the airport.

[PJ]

It's a tricky spot to be in.

These guys were just going about their day and vacation.

The shitty part is with everything going on in the world right now, regardless of right or wrong, people are going to be paranoid.

I'm just glad this got settled quickly no one was hurt. At least, not physically.

[Hondaracer]

Lol..so you can give an excuse like that and just instantly be deemed clear?

Remember your time in Cananda by taking pictures of these mall exits in back coridoors

[Ch28]

Really? How many? because I looked all the way back to page 1 and other than a couple of posters, I don't really see much making issue about the individual's race or religion but more so the action in question itself.

Unless you're trying to paint a certain picture generalizing typical western individuals based on a few posters, maybe consider that you are no better than the people you vilify.

http://i.imgur.com/d5P0do1.gif

[Sid Vicious]

http://www.noahprophecy.info/img/malcom_x.jpg

This quote is completely irrelevant to the topic as muslims who immigrate to western countries wish to implement their oppressive sharia laws there

But hey...a picture with some quotes by some famous guy must be significant right?

[Manic!]

muslims who immigrate to western countries wish to implement their oppressive sharia laws there


You actually think that's happening in Canada? We have had Muslims in this country since the 1800's and I have heard of no Muslim organization wanting oppressive sharia law here.

[twitchyzero]

Lol..so you can give an excuse like that and just instantly be deemed clear?

Remember your time in Cananda by taking pictures of these mall exits in back coridoors

they certainly threatened that ophthalmologist into contacting the VPD

I've seen it all too many times...like the TV show '24' PogChamp

[godwin]

The 3 guys are visually impaired!

Men deemed 'suspicious' for mall photos are visually impaired: Vancouver doctor | CTV News (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/men-deemed-suspicious-for-mall-photos-are-visually-impaired-vancouver-doctor-1.2740190)

[Mr.Money]

now these guys are visiting and fear they will be noticed in public.....GG,welcome to canada.

[Timpo]

as I said, if they were teenage girls taking pictures at shopping mall, nobody would've given 2 shits about it.

yes, so many studies have shown you will be judged by how you look. yes, it is unfair, but the reality is, the world is unfair. get over it.

[scottsman]

You actually think that's happening in Canada? We have had Muslims in this country since the 1800's and I have heard of no Muslim organization wanting oppressive sharia law here.

Not saying this to agree or disagree with you but there have been quite a few high profile, so called "honor killings" in Canada and US. This obviously does not mean that there is an organized group calling for this however it would definitely point to certain people coming to Canada and bringing certain cultures here.

My brother is working in the news/journalist industry and has traveled all through the Middle East, most recently in Yemen while all the airstrikes were going on and has said that SOME people that come to North America are actually more strict because they is obviously a lot more influence than when they were back in their home country.

[Gh0stRider]

?I want an investigation?: tourists identified by VPD speak out | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/2458888/i-want-an-investigation-tourists-identified-by-vpd-speak-out/)

[Manic!]

Not saying this to agree or disagree with you but there have been quite a few high profile, so called "honor killings" in Canada and US. This obviously does not mean that there is an organized group calling for this however it would definitely point to certain people coming to Canada and bringing certain cultures here.



White people kill there kids too. It's just not classified as a honor killing when it's done.

[scottsman]

You are literally the worst person to have a discussion with.

[parm104]

Lol..so you can give an excuse like that and just instantly be deemed clear?

Remember your time in Cananda by taking pictures of these mall exits in back coridoors

When did you get a chance to see their photos? Are they posted on Flickr?

You are literally the worst person to have a discussion with.

Ya, it sucks when someone doesn't submit to all your thoughts and ideas and actually has something politely and respectfully to say in opposition. WORST!

[StylinRed]

There are honour killings within Orthodox Christian groups, and Jewish groups, Hindu, and Sikh groups too, basically you'll find crazy acts stemming from any hardline groups. We've had plenty of examples locally, yet it seems they've been conveniently forgotten about

As for the photos the patients took, i believe CTV news showed at least one of them, it was of the chinese new years decorations adorning the doorways

[GS8]

I don't know...

At the end of the day, with all the weird shit I see on Whurrstar, Vines and X-tube, taking photos of exits with your phone is considered suspicious?

:fuckthatshit:

Maybe, just MAYBE if they were using a telephoto lens from some obscure location, then yes.

[rslater]

?I want an investigation?: tourists identified by VPD speak out | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/2458888/i-want-an-investigation-tourists-identified-by-vpd-speak-out/)

"They’ve published this story without blurring the faces. He’s a child, he’s going to look over his shoulder the rest of his life now. They’ve released it without blurring the photos, so the whole world’s seen us.”

I feel bad for them, but please shut the fuck up with this shit. Everyone has already stopped remembering you guys.

[parm104]

"They’ve published this story without blurring the faces. He’s a child, he’s going to look over his shoulder the rest of his life now. They’ve released it without blurring the photos, so the whole world’s seen us.”

I feel bad for them, but please shut the fuck up with this shit. Everyone has already stopped remembering you guys.

Yet here we are...continuing on with this thread...

[Nightwalker]

:facepalm:

What a clusterfuck.

[Timpo]

Pacific Centre mall photographers find sympathy on social media
As news of their innocence broke, users online were outraged by what they saw as racial profiling

Pacific Centre mall photographers find sympathy on social media - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pacific-centre-mall-photographers-find-sympathy-on-social-media-1.3407392)
By Lien Yeung, CBC News Posted: Jan 17, 2016 9:00 AM PT

http://i.cbc.ca/1.3407511.1452999262!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/mohammed-sharaz-and-mohammed-kareem.JPG
Mohammed Sharaz (left) says he has 'no complaints' with the public's reaction following the intense interest in what he, his friend Mohammed Kareem (centre) and his son (right) were doing photographing Pacific Centre. (Kamil Karamali/CBC)


The two men and one youth who gained unwanted attention after taking photographs and video of a downtown Vancouver mall have plenty of sympathizers online.

On Saturday, the topic trended both on Facebook and Twitter in Vancouver as users expressed outrage about what they described as the racial profiling of Mohammed Sharaz, Salahuddin Sharaz and Mohammed Kareem.

Mohammed Sharaz, one of the three men who were identified as British tourists, reacted positively to the public's concern but less so to how media outlets handled the incident.

"I've got no complaints because I've been reading comments online. Most of the people, 90 per cent, have actually understood what's happened," said Sharaz.

"The problem is when [media] published our photos naively or whatever, as soon as we saw the pictures, our faces are not blurred out. I've got a child that's 14 years-old ... it's going to cause him some trauma."

Images of the three men were released Thursday evening by an online publication following the leak of a internal police bulletin which described three "Middle-Eastern looking" men but was never meant to be made public.

'Sad moment' for Canada

Later when the three British tourists were cleared of any wrongdoing, users pointed to a double standard the men were subjected to because of their skin tone.

"I work near Pacific Centre, and walk through there quite often," said Tee Bex, who is listed as being from Abbotsford, B.C.

"Taking photos inside of it is common, but most people wouldn't bat an eye about a story of four Brazilian or Chinese tourists taking photos."

Another user, Jenna Marion, reflected on what she found to be a "sad moment" for Canada.

"I wish I could apologize to those men for the way they were profiled and spoken about," she said.

On Friday, VPD Chief Adam Palmer defended the description of the men as standard practise for anyone police are looking for.

"We release that all the time," he said at the time. "It's as simple as that."

Some were upset that media outlets across the city, including CBC, initially posted non-blurred images of the men.

Others specifically faulted the online publication that broke the news late Thursday.

"I'm pointing directly at Vancity Buzz for stirring up controversy. How their headline went from 'three Middle Eastern men' to 'three men' once the tourists came forward," said Vancouver's Ian Bryce on his Facebook page.

"It's disgusting that these people were profiled and had to 'out' themselves to stay safe."

In an interview with The Canadian Press, Vancity Buzz editor in chief Farhan Mohamed said his team published the story because it was in the public interest and when contacted to confirm details of the leaked memo, police did not ask them not to run the story.

Jan O'Hara admitted on her Facebook page that she initially shared a link about the police search because it was "worth passing on".

After learning of their innocence, like many others, she clarified the concern may have been overstated.

Other online chatter also called for police to look into the source of the leak.

Palmer says that would be challenging as the internal bulletin was sent out to thousands of police officers and civilian staff.

[Timpo]

video on Global News
?I want an investigation?: tourists identified by VPD speak out | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/2458888/i-want-an-investigation-tourists-identified-by-vpd-speak-out/)

http://i2.wp.com/media.globalnews.ca/videostatic/747/27/GBCNH160116FOY_tnb_2.jpg

[mikemhg]

I'm definitely not a Social Justice Warrior, nor do I necessarily agree with allowing the immigration of mass amounts of these refugees.

But I have to say, these guys got fucked over for sure. I feel that we're allowing our fear to legitimize this story. The police and new media should have had their ducks in a row before this coming out to the masses.

I definitely understand these three individuals complaints in terms of how they may be treated going forward during their remaining time in Vancouver.

Think of it this way for a second. What is a rape happened in a park, and you happened to be in the area riding your bike on CCTV? What if you had nothing to do with the rape, but the news media put your mug out there stating that police are looking for you to answer questions on a rape that occurred in the area, and that you are a possible suspect.

What happens if a day later the cops find the actual rapist, and that you had nothing to do with it? No matter what media story or news report that comes out to indicate you were innocent, the damage is already done, you will still have individuals who will think you are a rapist. Plain and simple.

I have sympathy for those guys, they got a shit deal, let's be honest here. If the tides were turned on any of us in the scenario I said above, any one of us would be choked at the media and police.

[Harvey Specter]

:)



VANCOUVER (NEWS 1130) – The mayor of Vancouver has apologized to two men and a teenager singled out in an internal police bulletin for “suspicious behaviour” at a downtown shopping mall.

Gregor Robertson says it was a mistake that a document containing unblurred photos of three men described as “Middle Eastern” was leaked and that an online media outlet published the pictures on Thursday.

Surveillance photos of Mohammed Sharaz, his friend and his son taking pictures at Pacific Centre mall raised suspicions with shopping centre authorities, who relayed the information to the Vancouver Police Department.

Police quickly cleared the men, but Sharaz says he remained fearful they might be identified and attacked on the street.

Sharaz doesn’t blame the police for the ordeal but says he is considering legal action against Vancity Buzz, the news and culture website that published the unblurred photos.

The trio are from the United Kingdom and are in Canada to receive specialized treatment for visual disabilities.

[radioman]

So upset that very blurry images of them are on the internet and as soon as they are cleared of any wrong doings over media outlets they decide to get interviewed so now I can really see their faces. Cool.

[$_$]

Your personal opinion, what would you rather they do?

Haven't been around computer all weekend, so didn't have a chance to reply to you guys yet. But I would have preferred if the police/media have put out a notice/bulletin that said they were interested in talking to these people and to have anyone that knew them come forward instead of saying that they were acting suspicious because they were taking photos of entrances. That takes things to a whole nother level.

[Galactic_Phantom]

Haven't been around computer all weekend, so didn't have a chance to reply to you guys yet. But I would have preferred if the police/media have put out a notice/bulletin that said they were interested in talking to these people and to have anyone that knew them come forward instead of saying that they were acting suspicious because they were taking photos of entrances. That takes things to a whole nother level.
Taking photos of entrances at a mall where rich Chinese fucks shop and next to the two biggest luxury designer department stores in town is suspicious. It could've easily been interpret as scoping out info for a robbery.

Pacific Centre mall photographers find sympathy on social media
As news of their innocence broke, users online were outraged by what they saw as racial profiling

Pacific Centre mall photographers find sympathy on social media - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pacific-centre-mall-photographers-find-sympathy-on-social-media-1.3407392)
By Lien Yeung, CBC News Posted: Jan 17, 2016 9:00 AM PT

http://i.cbc.ca/1.3407511.1452999262!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/mohammed-sharaz-and-mohammed-kareem.JPG
Mohammed Sharaz (left) says he has 'no complaints' with the public's reaction following the intense interest in what he, his friend Mohammed Kareem (centre) and his son (right) were doing photographing Pacific Centre. (Kamil Karamali/CBC)


The two men and one youth who gained unwanted attention after taking photographs and video of a downtown Vancouver mall have plenty of sympathizers online.

On Saturday, the topic trended both on Facebook and Twitter in Vancouver as users expressed outrage about what they described as the racial profiling of Mohammed Sharaz, Salahuddin Sharaz and Mohammed Kareem.

Mohammed Sharaz, one of the three men who were identified as British tourists, reacted positively to the public's concern but less so to how media outlets handled the incident.

"I've got no complaints because I've been reading comments online. Most of the people, 90 per cent, have actually understood what's happened," said Sharaz.

"The problem is when [media] published our photos naively or whatever, as soon as we saw the pictures, our faces are not blurred out. I've got a child that's 14 years-old ... it's going to cause him some trauma."

Images of the three men were released Thursday evening by an online publication following the leak of a internal police bulletin which described three "Middle-Eastern looking" men but was never meant to be made public.

'Sad moment' for Canada

Later when the three British tourists were cleared of any wrongdoing, users pointed to a double standard the men were subjected to because of their skin tone.

"I work near Pacific Centre, and walk through there quite often," said Tee Bex, who is listed as being from Abbotsford, B.C.

"Taking photos inside of it is common, but most people wouldn't bat an eye about a story of four Brazilian or Chinese tourists taking photos."

Another user, Jenna Marion, reflected on what she found to be a "sad moment" for Canada.

"I wish I could apologize to those men for the way they were profiled and spoken about," she said.

On Friday, VPD Chief Adam Palmer defended the description of the men as standard practise for anyone police are looking for.

"We release that all the time," he said at the time. "It's as simple as that."

Some were upset that media outlets across the city, including CBC, initially posted non-blurred images of the men.

Others specifically faulted the online publication that broke the news late Thursday.

"I'm pointing directly at Vancity Buzz for stirring up controversy. How their headline went from 'three Middle Eastern men' to 'three men' once the tourists came forward," said Vancouver's Ian Bryce on his Facebook page.

"It's disgusting that these people were profiled and had to 'out' themselves to stay safe."

In an interview with The Canadian Press, Vancity Buzz editor in chief Farhan Mohamed said his team published the story because it was in the public interest and when contacted to confirm details of the leaked memo, police did not ask them not to run the story.

Jan O'Hara admitted on her Facebook page that she initially shared a link about the police search because it was "worth passing on".

After learning of their innocence, like many others, she clarified the concern may have been overstated.

Other online chatter also called for police to look into the source of the leak.

Palmer says that would be challenging as the internal bulletin was sent out to thousands of police officers and civilian staff.

LOL people jumping on the, "this is racial profiling" card. I love social justice facebook warriors. The sympathizing only began when people pulled out the race card and cried injustice. They were doing something suspicious, simple as that. Those same people were probably shitty their pants of a terrorist plot themselves. Yeah apologies for misunderstanding, but you can't put the blame on people for misinterpreting your intentions. As someone here said in the first couple pages, would you rather have reactive policing and often do not arrest the perpetrators or have proactive police and stop crime before it happens?

"People wouldn't bat an eye if it was Chinese tourists taking pictures"

Yes I would. I would think its 3 Asian wannabe gangbangers plotting a heist or robbery. Obviously they're not gonna wear their North Face 700s to do something like spotting locations for a robbery getaway so they might not look local but it'll still be shady regardless of race.

[Manic!]

Taking photos of entrances at a mall where rich Chinese fucks shop and next to the two biggest luxury designer department stores in town is suspicious. It could've easily been interpret as scoping out info for a robbery.



LOL people jumping on the, "this is racial profiling" card. I love social justice facebook warriors. The sympathizing only began when people pulled out the race card and cried injustice. They were doing something suspicious, simple as that. Those same people were probably shitty their pants of a terrorist plot themselves. Yeah apologies for misunderstanding, but you can't put the blame on people for misinterpreting your intentions. As someone here said in the first couple pages, would you rather have reactive policing and often do not arrest the perpetrators or have proactive police and stop crime before it happens?

"People wouldn't bat an eye if it was Chinese tourists taking pictures"

Yes I would. I would think its 3 Asian wannabe gangbangers plotting a heist or robbery. Obviously they're not gonna wear their North Face 700s to do something like spotting locations for a robbery getaway so they might not look local but it'll still be shady regardless of race.

The problem is Vancity buzz released a internal report that was not meant to be shown to the public. Vancity buzz just made a mountain out of a mole hill.

[Soundy]

I'm definitely not a Social Justice Warrior, nor do I necessarily agree with allowing the immigration of mass amounts of these refugees.
That's one of the stupidest parts of all this: people right away jumped to the assumption these were recently-arrived refugees, when in reality they were British tourists, which essentially means they didn't have to do much more than walk off the plane and flash their UK passports. Yet even in light of their being exonerated, the anti-refugee lot are USING this incident to "warn against immigration".

So upset that very blurry images of them are on the internet and as soon as they are cleared of any wrong doings over media outlets they decide to get interviewed so now I can really see their faces. Cool.
Posting the blurred versions after the police cleared them is stupid anyway, since VCB's unblurred versions had already gone viral.

Haven't been around computer all weekend, so didn't have a chance to reply to you guys yet. But I would have preferred if the police/media have put out a notice/bulletin that said they were interested in talking to these people and to have anyone that knew them come forward instead of saying that they were acting suspicious because they were taking photos of entrances. That takes things to a whole nother level.

The problem is Vancity buzz released a internal report that was not meant to be shown to the public. Vancity buzz just made a mountain out of a mole hill.
This is the thing - this info wasn't meant to be released. Police receive "suspicious activity" reports daily, investigate them, and dismiss them without going public. This incident would have come and gone, nobody would have known the difference, and life would have carried on normally for these gentlemen if it hadn't been for this "leak" (whatever that means), and Vancity Buzz jumping on it, because after all, SCOOP!

Really silly thing is, VCB claims they contacted the VPD about the info when they received it, and since they WEREN'T told NOT to publish it, they went ahead and did so. That's right: their excuse isn't that they were TOLD to print it... but that they weren't told NOT to. "It all started when he hit me back first."

[Verdasco]

Good, I hope VCB shuts down. God damn website is racist.


I feel so bad for that 14 year old as well :/

[GS8]

I'm glad they don't have any malice towards the Police

:)

Sharaz doesn’t blame the police for the ordeal but says he is considering legal action against Vancity Buzz, the news and culture website that published the unblurred photos.

This is all I care about. If that hokey shitstain of a website gets shutdown, I will do this :chairdance: all fucking week

[westopher]

Good, I hope VCB shuts down. God damn website is racist.


I feel so bad for that 14 year old as well :/
I don't think its necessarily that they are racist. Its just that they are a bunch of fucking idiots.
This story certainly brought out a lot of racism though.
I sympathize with the police, as its their job to keep the public safe, and if they think something is off, its their job to protect citizens.
I sympathize with the tourists, because all they were guilty of is BWB. (beards while brown)
I don't sympathize with vancitybuzz jacking off and jizzing in their own proverbial belly button at the thought of stirring up the clickbait shitfuck that they did.

[jonwon]

They should have thought about the way they looked and what they were doing and the ramifications of their actions; it's not racism. They were doing something out of the ordinary and people noticed. Now imagine if I was coming back from a snowboarding trip and walked into a bank wearing my ski mask and carrying a large duffle bag filled with all my gear; it's the same shit.

[westopher]

Are you fucking kidding me?
Walking into a bank with a balaclava on and a duffel bag = being brown in a mall with a camera phone. Ok.

[van_city23]

As much as everyone including myself thinks vancity buzz is a joke, it won't get shut down over this.

[Manic!]

She should have thought about the way she looked and what she was doing and the ramifications of her reactions

Is that what you would say to a rape victim?

Tomorrow I am taking my brown ass to the mall and I am going to take a bunch of pictures of the entrances and I don't care what anyone thinks because I am not breaking any laws. My skin color is not going to affect what I can and cannot do.

[Timpo]

Pacific Centre photographers get apology from Vancouver mayor
'Vancouver must continue to be a welcoming city,' says Gregor Robertson

By Geordon Omand, The Canadian Press Posted: Jan 17, 2016 6:29 PM PT Last Updated: Jan 17, 2016 8:15 PM PT
Pacific Centre photographers get apology from Vancouver mayor - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pacific-centre-photographers-get-apology-from-vancouver-mayor-1.3408045)

http://i.cbc.ca/1.3408059.1453078369!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/mayor-gregor-robertson-and-mohammed-sharaz.JPG
Vancouver's mayor, Gregor Robertson, took time to meeting with three British tourists who were the subject of unwanted attention after taking photos of Pacific Centre. (Van Mayor's Office/Twitter)

The mayor of Vancouver has apologized to two men and a teenager singled out in an internal police bulletin for taking pictures at a downtown shopping mall.

Gregor Robertson says it was a mistake that a document containing non-blurred photos of two men and one youth, described as "Middle-Eastern looking," was leaked and that media published the pictures on Thursday.

The mayor of Vancouver has apologized to two men and a teenage boy singled out in an internal police bulletin leaked to the press for their "suspicious behaviour" at a downtown shopping mall.

Gregor Robertson said it was a mistake that a document containing unblurred photos of three men described as "Middle Eastern" was made public and that an online media outlet published the pictures on Thursday.

"I wanted to make sure on behalf of the city they understand how much respect we have for them and that we understand mistakes were made," Robertson said after meeting the trio for lunch on Sunday.

Surveillance photos of Mohammed Sharaz, his son and his friend taking pictures and video with their cell phones of the entrances and exits of Pacific Centre mall on Tuesday raised suspicions with shopping-centre authorities, who relayed the information to the Vancouver Police Department.


The three men are visiting Vancouver from the United Kingdom so Sharaz's friend and 14-year-old son can receive specialized treatment for their visual disabilities. The two men take photos and video throughout the day so they can zoom in later to see the sights more clearly.

Police quickly cleared the men after Sharaz explained the situation, but the three were afraid they might be identified on the street and attacked by vigilantes.

The Vancouver Police Department is conducting an internal review to better understand how the bulletin was leaked when it was intended only for internal circulation among British Columbia police officers.

In the meantime, the police have offered to drive the men around during the remainder of their stay.

Robertson said what's important at this point is that visitors to Vancouver feel valued and respected.

"We're a city that takes care of people," he said. "We respect people no matter what their background, where they come from and what they believe in. That's what this city is all about."

Considering legal action

The mayor laid some of the blame on the media for publishing the identifying photographs.

"That's not appropriate. That should not have happened" he said. "There's also journalistic integrity that comes into play here."

Sharaz said he doesn't blame the police for the ordeal, describing their behaviour as "brilliant."

"What the police did, I'm perfectly fine with that. Even if they'd come and arrested us I would have been fine with that," he said.

"When it comes to national security there are some crazy people in the world."

Sharaz was also critical of the media and said he is considering legal action against Vancity Buzz, the news and culture website that published the unblurred photos.

He commended the mayor, the police and the people of Vancouver for their response to the incident.

"On Friday, we thought we were going to have a horrible weekend. But the weekend's turned out pretty good," he said, smiling.

http://i.cbc.ca/1.3408066.1453078689!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/original_620/mayor-gregor-mohammed-sharaz-salahuddin-sharaz-and-mohammed-kareem.JPG
Mayor Gregor (left) at a breakfast meeting on Sunday morning with (left to right) Mohammed Kareem, Mohammed Sharaz and Salahuddin Sharaz. (City of Vancouver)

Vancity Buzz editor in chief Farhan Mohamed said last week that the story was published because it was in the public interest.

He later said in a statement that he welcomed the news that the men had been located and their actions deemed innocent.

Mohamed tweeted at Sharaz on Saturday saying that he would love to sit down with him.

The three fly back to the U.K. on Friday but will return to Vancouver in about three months.

Sharaz's son Salahuddin Sharaz suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, a degenerative disease that causes severe vision impairment. He and Sharaz's friend Mohammed Kareem, 34, have been receiving treatment from Dr. Weidong Yu at the Wellspring Clinic for Holistic Medicine.

[jonwon]

Is that what you would say to a rape victim?

Tomorrow I am taking my brown ass to the mall and I am going to take a bunch of pictures of the entrances and I don't care what anyone thinks because I am not breaking any laws. My skin color is not going to affect what I can and cannot do.

See you on the news

[Manic!]

See you on the news

And see your car in the junkyard because we all know Asians are bad drivers.

Maybe all Asians should drive 10km slower than the speed limit and put a big A on the back so everyone knows to to stay 20 car lengths back. It's not racism it's just that Asians drivers scare most people.

I'm only joking because just because you are yellow does not make you a bad driver and just because you are brown does not make you a terrorist

[parm104]

And see your car in the junkyard because we all know Asians are bad drivers.


Go back to your own country, Bin Laden! We have homeless to feed.

[trancehead]

Vancity Buzz is a joke of a website. Their hockey columns are even worse

[Sid Vicious]

You actually think that's happening in Canada? We have had Muslims in this country since the 1800's and I have heard of no Muslim organization wanting oppressive sharia law here.

No Canada persay, but many European countries after welcoming these people with open arms

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html)

GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06)
WebCite query result (http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY)

FPO (2014): 43% of Islamic teachers in Austria openly advocate Sharia law over democracy.
http://rt.com/news/208387-austria-islam-kindergarten-muslim/

2015 (Jyllands Posten): 77% of Muslims in Denmark believe the Quran's instructions should be 'fully appied'.
Danish Muslims more devout than in years past - The Local (http://www.thelocal.dk/20151013/danish-muslims-more-devout-than-in-years-past)

2015 (Jyllands Postn): Only 53% of Danish Muslims believe Danish law should be based on the consitution and not the Quran.
4 of 10 Danish Muslims want Quran-based laws - The Local (http://www.thelocal.dk/20151019/forty-percent-danish-muslims-wants-quran-based-laws)


You are literally the worst person to have a discussion with.

Haha, his argument only consists of one strategy - "well...white people did THIS!"

he seems to display an almost infantile lack of critical reasoning and logic, resorting to only emotion based responses

And see your car in the junkyard because we all know Asians are bad drivers.

Maybe all Asians should drive 10km slower than the speed limit and put a big A on the back so everyone knows to to stay 20 car lengths back. It's not racism it's just that Asians drivers scare most people.


What most posters have been trying to beat into your head a thousand times is that race is irrelevant, it's mostly culture.

What happens when you import a buncha people from a culture that instills a lack of respect for women? Well just a look at Europe and see

What happens when you import a buncha people from a culture that treats non believers as infidels? Well just a look at Europe and see

inb4 racism, bigotry, xenophobia etc

[Manic!]

No Canada persay, but many European countries after welcoming these people with open arms

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html)

GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
Many British Muslims Put Islam First - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06)
WebCite query result (http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY)

FPO (2014): 43% of Islamic teachers in Austria openly advocate Sharia law over democracy.
http://rt.com/news/208387-austria-islam-kindergarten-muslim/

2015 (Jyllands Posten): 77% of Muslims in Denmark believe the Quran's instructions should be 'fully appied'.
Danish Muslims more devout than in years past - The Local (http://www.thelocal.dk/20151013/danish-muslims-more-devout-than-in-years-past)

2015 (Jyllands Postn): Only 53% of Danish Muslims believe Danish law should be based on the consitution and not the Quran.
4 of 10 Danish Muslims want Quran-based laws - The Local (http://www.thelocal.dk/20151019/forty-percent-danish-muslims-wants-quran-based-laws)




Haha, his argument only consists of one strategy - "well...white people did THIS!"

he seems to display an almost infantile lack of critical reasoning and logic, resorting to only emotion based responses



What most posters have been trying to beat into your head a thousand times is that race is irrelevant, it's mostly culture.

What happens when you import a buncha people from a culture that instills a lack of respect for women? Well just a look at Europe and see

What happens when you import a buncha people from a culture that treats non believers as infidels? Well just a look at Europe and see

inb4 racism, bigotry, xenophobia etc

57% Of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/25/57-republicans-dismantle-constitution-christianity-national-religion.html)

In U.S., 3 in 10 Say They Take the Bible Literally (http://www.gallup.com/poll/148427/say-bible-literally.aspx)

Three in Four in U.S. Still See the Bible as Word of God (http://www.gallup.com/poll/170834/three-four-bible-word-god.aspx)

That's the bible that allows a person to beat his wife and kids, own slaves, and take an eye for an eye.

[Sid Vicious]

And see your car in the junkyard because we all know Asians are bad drivers.

Maybe all Asians should drive 10km slower than the speed limit and put a big A on the back so everyone knows to to stay 20 car lengths back. It's not racism it's just that Asians drivers scare most people.

I'm only joking because just because you are yellow does not make you a bad driver and just because you are brown does not make you a terrorist

57% Of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/25/57-republicans-dismantle-constitution-christianity-national-religion.html)

In U.S., 3 in 10 Say They Take the Bible Literally (http://www.gallup.com/poll/148427/say-bible-literally.aspx)

Three in Four in U.S. Still See the Bible as Word of God (http://www.gallup.com/poll/170834/three-four-bible-word-god.aspx)

That's the bible that allows a person to beat his wife and kids, own slaves, and take an eye for an eye.

you have the logic abilities of a potato, all your arguments boil down to one line of reasoning:
"well group X might believe and do some fucked up shit, but look at what group Y does."

that does not make group x and y's beliefs correct, it just means theyre both dumbasses

here, i've compiled a handy list of logical fallacies for you so that you may prevent future disgraces
http://i.imgur.com/vfQSAlL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BNYQOIE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4mmrcPL.jpg

[quasi]

I was away this weekend but last Monday I was in Pacific Center taking photo's on my phone of the structures inside the mall Corridors and Lobby, I actually had someone from the mall come up and ask me why I was taking pictures. I gave him a card and explained, no issues at all. I guess they didn't get to these guys before they left?

BTW I'm as white as they get.

[AzNightmare]

Anonymity is the best way for something to die.
Like someone else said, we had some blurry images from before.
Now with all these aftermath interviews, we have perfect images of how they look like.
Names released, so now we know exactly WHO they are. Fucking stupid. It's not like they're Mike Tyson with a big tattoo across their face.

If they wanted this all swept under, just release a vague report rectifying the mistake. And leave it at that. There's too much shit going on in the news,
this would have been forgotten quick if it weren't for all this extra attention.

[AzNightmare]

I was away this weekend but last Monday I was in Pacific Center taking photo's on my phone of the structures inside the mall Corridors and Lobby, I actually had someone from the mall come up and ask me why I was taking pictures. I gave him a card and explained, no issues at all. I guess they didn't get to these guys before they left?

BTW I'm as white as they get.

If you were wearing a hardhat with a reflective safety vest, no one would question you. Probably could have walked around outside with a lock cutter and jacked any bicycle you wanted too, no questions asked.

[quasi]

If you were wearing a hardhat with a reflective safety vest, no one would question you. Probably could have walked around outside with a lock cutter and jacked any bicycle you wanted too, no questions asked.

True, I'll do that when I'm a construction site but wasn't necessary last week.

[Soundy]

Anonymity is the best way for something to die.
Like someone else said, we had some blurry images from before.

The original VCB article included unblurred versions....

[radioman]

Yes unblurred potato quality photos.