[E60_M5]

Anyone getting one?

Launch / Availability
•700 units worldwide (300 for the U.S.)
•Four colors available: Sapphire Black metallic, Mineral Grey metallic, Alpine White and Frozen Dark Grey Metallic

Engine•3.0L Turbo 6 Cylinder (S55)
•493 bHP (500 HP) (16% increase over standard M4) @ 6250 RPM
•442 lb-ft torque (10% increase over standard M4) @ 4000-5500 RPM
•6.5 lbs/hp weight-to-power ratio
•0-60 mph: 3.7 sec
•Top speed: 189.5 mph (governed)
•Water Injection System for enhanced cooling

Water Injection System•First in a production road car
•Achieves similar levels of cooling found in the standard M4
•Water injected as fine spray into intake manifold where it evaporates, lowering intake air temperature (by additional 80° F) and reducing final compression temperature in combustion chamber, thus minimizing risk of knock and allowing higher boost pressure and advanced spark timing.
•3 water injectors in the intake plenum chamber each supplying water to 2 cylinders, for uniform distribution.
•1.3 gallon water tank, water pump, sensors, valves all housed in trunk underfloor
•Pump supplies water to injectors at approximately 145 psi.
•Water injection quantity varies depending on load, engine speed and temperature, keeping water consumption to a minimum.
•Maintenance free except for top ups
•The BMW M water injection system is equipped with a sophisticated self-diagnosis system. If the water tank runs dry, or in the event of a system malfunction, appropriate measures are taken to protect the engine.
•When engine is turned off, all water in hose system is drained into the tank to prevent system components from icing up.
•Frost-proof water tank
•See full press release below for more technical discussions of the water injection system

Lightweight Design•DIN curb weight of 3329 pounds (ECE curb weight: 3,494 lbs)
•CFRP hood approximately 25% lighter than aluminum hood of standard M4
•Air outlet on hood optimizes airflow and reduces lift at front axle
•CFRP instrument panel support
•Lightweight CFRP rear spoiler wing, attached to trunk by CNC milled aluminum supports - can be set to 3 positions
•CFRP adjustable front splitter lip - can be set in two positions for road or track
•CFRP rear diffuser
•CFRP single-piece driveshaft is even lighter than that of the standard M4
•Bucket-style M sports seats in Alcantara (including lightweight backrests with cut-outs)
•New, asymmetrically styled lightweight center console (in between seats) shaves around 30% off the weight of corresponding component in standard M4
•Rear seat delete. Area now trimmed in glass-fiber-reinforced plastic (GFRP) with a carbon sandwich bulkhead to the rear
•Door panel trim and rear side panel trim with modified design geometry and special lightweight construction with renewable natural materials reduce weight by 50% compared to standard components
•Door release pull loops replace conventional door handles

Suspension System•Three-way adjustable coilover suspension
•Mechanically adjustable compression and rebound settings, with precise independent adjustment of low-speed and high-speed compression.
•Anti-roll bars and support mounts are matched to the significantly increased engine power

Steering•Adapted to the BMW M4 GTS
•No elastic section in M4 GTS steering column for improved feedback
•Steering torque curve optimized by modifications to the front suspension kinematics and incorporating asymmetric steering support mounts and a motorsport-derived, custom-designed, milled swivel bearing which allows optimized axle geometry for lateral dynamics and steering torque.
•Swivel bearing also allows the use of 9.5 inch wide front wheels
•Front camber set to minus degree setting for increased cornering lateral forces
•Higher damper clamp with the ball joint in the front axle support mount results in substantially increased camber stiffness and provides faster response to lateral forces, which is already enhanced by the wider wheels (19 inch front wheels / 20x10.5 inch rear).

Tires / Wheels•Mixed-size Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires (front: 265/35 R19; rear: 285/30 R20)
•Forged machined-polished M Star (Style 666M) wheels in Acid Orange
•19-inch front wheels (9.5 J x 19) and 20-inch (10.5 J x 20) rear wheels

Other Technical Highlights•7 minutes 28 second lap time on the Nürburgring-Nordschleife
•Lightweight titanium rear silencer/exhaust (20% weight reduction over standard steel exhaust)
•7 Speed M DCT transmission
•Active M Differential specially adapted to enhanced performance of M4 GTS
•DSC and ABS systems configured for BMW M4 GTS's increased performance and three-way coilover suspension
•M Carbon Ceramic Brakes◦Modified rear brake system of M4 GTS features modified specifications for improved friction coefficient
◦Front brake guards adapted to improve ventilation


Interior•Alcantara M Steering wheel with perforated stripe in Acid Orange
•Alcantara trim with perforated Acid Orange GTS badge
•New alcantara center console in asymmetric design and lightweight construction
•Handbrake lever gaiter in alcantara with contrast stitching
•Rear seats replaced by glass-fiber-reinforced plastic (GFRP) shelf, combined with a rear panel made in a carbon-fiber sandwich construction
•Roll bar made from high-strength steel, painted in Acid Orange
•Fire extinguisher fitted behind front seats

Standard options / equipment•BMW Navigation system
•Air conditioning
•Adaptive LED Headlights
•Park Distance Control (PDC) front and rear
•Automatically dimming rear-view and exterior mirrors
•BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line trim.
•Signature BMW M equipment features such as M door sill finishers, an M footrest, an M gearshift lever, M-specific circular instruments with white graphics, an M sports steering wheel in Alcantara
•4 exterior colors available: Sapphire Black metallic, Mineral Grey metallic, Alpine White and Frozen Dark Grey Metallic


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[E60_M5]

Nurburing lap time of 7:27.88

https://youtu.be/I6VrhW6J4Bs

[dared3vil0]

I'm not a fan of the orange accents on the wheels/lip, but that is brutally fast.

[skiiipi]

I don't think you'll see many of these on the road.
Only a true car enthusiast will appreciate this.

I think a lot of your rich Asian fan boys will go for the flashier brands

I like everything about the car minus the wing....but if it's functional I suppose it'll grow on me.

[E60_M5]

I'm not a fan of the orange accents on the wheels/lip, but that is brutally fast.

If you really do hate the wheels that much. BMW offers Carbon wheels option for $12,500cdn.


Quote from BMW M Power World (http://www.m-power.com)

In spring 2016 the latest high-performance model from BMW M GmbH will be available with an additional equipment option which brings its exclusive, racing-inspired character even more prominently to the fore. The new BMW M4 GTS (combined fuel consumption: 8.5 l/100 km [33.2 mpg imp]; combined CO2 emissions: 199 g/km) – whose six-cylinder in-line engine develops 368 kW/500 hp with the help of the water injection system employed for the first time in a series-produced vehicle and which sets new standards in intelligent lightweight design with features including an array of components made from carbon-fibre-reinforced plastic (CFRP) – will be available from launch in March 2016 with another innovation in chassis technology.

The options list for the BMW M4 GTS will include M Carbon Compound wheels (front: 9.5 J x 19, rear: 10.5 J x 20), whose innovative material characteristics bring about a significant reduction in unsprung and rotating masses and therefore have a positive effect on the car’s acceleration and deceleration, steering responses and vibration levels.

Designed for the race track yet also approved for road use, this technological showpiece is therefore the world’s first series-produced vehicle that can be fitted with wheels boasting a CFRP/aluminium-composite construction. They enable around seven kilograms to be shaved off the weight of a BMW M4 GTS fitted with the already extraordinarily lightweight forged aluminium wheels specified as standard. Rim wells in exposed carbon also lend the BMW Carbon Compound wheels exclusive visual accents. The wheels are fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres adapted specially for the BMW M4 GTS (front: 265/35 ZR19, rear: 285/30 ZR20).

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[dared3vil0]

^ Well it's not like I could afford the car so it doesn't make much difference. :lawl:

[donjalapeno]

i literally only like the figures and the taillights. The copper accents and that wing is puke. I would rather a normal M4 and if i feel like it needs more power/refinement then ill go for some modifications.

[knight604]

The orange , i just cant.

[320icar]

LOL that thing is MM design straight from BMW.

Ugly as fuck/10

[Lomac]

I'm sure that wing is functional but good god it looks terrible.

[westopher]

Reminds me of the AMG black series cars. Impressive, but ugly. I'd love to drive one, but I'd have to walk out to it blindfolded every day. I'd much rather have a stock m4 and a modding budget.

[E-SPEC]

I'd take off that wing asap.

[westopher]

http://www.willz.ca/images/sportevo002lighterA.JPG
http://maydaygarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1995-BMW-M3-CSL-Lightweight-price.jpeg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/c3oRBZGpRrA/maxresdefault.jpg
Remember when the special edition m3s looked better?
RIP good looking aero.

[AzNightmare]

Wait, are those pics OEM or modded?

Stock car comes with ricer wing??

[The_AK]

Wait, are those pics OEM or modded?

Stock car comes with ricer wing??

yup theyre stock, LTW wing on the e36 and CSL trunk lid on the e46

[flagella]

Those orange accents are terribly executed. Reminds me of XXR wheels. Also even the carbon wheels aren't particularly good looking either.

[E60_M5]

The E46 csl looks great. But not a fan of those wheels and wing on the e36 ltw.

[Z3guy]

I heard the price is north of $150K? as wicked as the M4 GTS is on paper, I would take a 991 Carrera 4 GTS over a M4 GTS.

[westopher]

The E46 csl looks great. But not a fan of those wheels and wing on the e36 ltw.
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[thumper]

https://youtu.be/L4eybK6WA9I

[E60_M5]

https://youtu.be/L4eybK6WA9I


I was just about to post that video. The frozen dark grey looks good, but I don't think I can deal with the care it needs.

[Nlkko]

They need to put more effort on that wing, looks out of place. Otherwise, it's sick.

[dn53]

Intake water cooling... Impressive technology :)

[E60_M5]

They need to put more effort on that wing, looks out of place. Otherwise, it's sick.


I agree they could of maybe shaped the wing to fit better with the car.

I don't mind the acid orange accent and if I were to buy one. It would be in alpine white.

[smoothie.]

http://ragegenerator.com/images/ragebuilder-faces/Angry/RedEyes.png

probably because that wing looks photoshopped

doesnt match angle of the car

[westopher]

I think it's distortion from a wide angle lens
Here's another angle. I can understand people not liking it though. I prefer it in the low position.
http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/1995-M3-Lightweight3.jpg

[E60_M5]

LTW, CSL OR GTS. The goal at BMW M is always to make the cars fast. It's all about function over form and people usually grow to like thesee cars after they find out how well they handle and how special they really are.

[StylinRed]

eh... 80kg lighter, 75more hp, no backseat, liquid cooling, automatic transmission... automatic... auto... 3X+? the price of an M4

:suspicious:

I could see buying it simply because it's limited, in hopes that it'll go up in value... other than that meh

[E60_M5]

eh... 80kg lighter, 100more hp, no backseat, liquid cooling, automatic transmission... automatic... auto... 3X+? the price of an M4

:suspicious:

I could see buying it simply because it's limited, in hopes that it'll go up in value... other than that meh

-Stock m4 is 425hp and the gts is 493hp. So it's +68hp
-Base model m4 is $76,000 plus $3,900 for DCT and $8,500 for ccb. So it's around 40% more in price.
- no backseat because a roll bar is installed. The clubsport package in europe is optional. So a backseat is avaliable in europe, but I don't see many ppl not taking the clubsport package.
- it's a DCT and not a regular automatic.

[StylinRed]

-Stock m4 is 431hp and the gts is 493hp. So it's +62hp
-Base model m4 is $76,000 plus $3,900 for DCT and $8,500 for ccb. So it's around 40% more in price.
- no backseat because a roll bar is installed. The clubsport package in europe is optional. So a backseat is avaliable in europe, but I don't see many ppl not taking the clubsport package.
- it's a DCT and not a regular automatic.

I read that it's $160k USD? so assumed it'd be around 225k here, 40% more isn't too egregious

[E60_M5]

I read that it's $160k USD? so assumed it'd be around 225k here, 40% more isn't too egregious

The M4 GTS is $134k in the US and $153k here in Canada. Clubsport package is standard and included.

[tofu1413]

seems like a good deal, comparable to the GT3 afterall.

[dared3vil0]

seems like a good deal, comparable to the GT3 afterall.

Maybe on paper but I would want the GT3 100x more than the BMW...

[tofu1413]

Maybe on paper but I would want the GT3 100x more than the BMW...

ditto.

but nice thing is, both hold value or would go up in value.


all depends on preference really, but the GTS itself is an even more exclusive car.

one does not simply walk into a dealer and buy a GTS. (unlike the GT3) thats what makes it a bit special.

[gripenM]

They need to put more effort on that wing, looks out of place. Otherwise, it's sick.

that's what i thought when I first saw pics of the E92 GTS,
but it didn't take long for it to grow on me.

The combination of the front lip and rear wing look great on both gen's of GTS in my opinion..

http://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/bmw-m3-gts-image.jpg

[dared3vil0]

I still think the E92 M3 is a better looking car than the M4... The M4 just looks too big and bloated.

[Happy]

I still think the E92 M3 is a better looking car than the M4... The M4 just looks too big and bloated.

E30 M3s, E46 M3s, and E92 M3s will always be my favorite in terms of timeless body designs

[Z3guy]

ditto.

but nice thing is, both hold value or would go up in value.


all depends on preference really, but the GTS itself is an even more exclusive car.

one does not simply walk into a dealer and buy a GTS. (unlike the GT3) thats what makes it a bit special.

991 GT3s are dropping like rock since the RS came out....GT3s were selling for $180K to $190K in the summer of 2015, you can pick a really low km example for $160K now.

[tofu1413]

991 GT3s are dropping like rock since the RS came out....GT3s were selling for $180K to $190K in the summer of 2015, you can pick a really low km example for $160K now.

thats a fantastic thing. slightly closer to reach for mere mortals like me :megusta:


next GT3 may have turbos at this rate, seeing how car manufacturers are going.... so we should all enjoy some NA bliss while we still can!


991 GT3 bound to go back up in price!

[Z3guy]

^ no I hope they keep dropping in price as well!!!

It will be an interesting shoot out in the used car market in a few year.....the 991 GT3 will be a similar price apt as a MPC-12.......

[tofu1413]

yeah... next couple years going to be flooded with lease return exotics............




but im buying a house soon.... :okay:

[dared3vil0]

E30 M3s, E46 M3s, and E92 M3s will always be my favorite in terms of timeless body designs



^ So much this...

E36 M3 Lightweight

http://13252-presscdn-0-94.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/plugins/PostviaEmail/images/1995_BMW_E36_M3_LTW_Motorsport_Lightweight_PTG_Rac e_Car_For_Sale_resize.jpg



E46 M3 CSL:

http://static.pagenstecher.de/uploads/0/08/08e/08ec/339-bmw-m3-e46-csl-1.jpg




E92 M3 LRP:


http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=758283&d=1349126151


M4 GTS: :ohgodwhy:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K7Rt3BVzgLg/maxresdefault.jpg

[westopher]

That LTW you posted was for sale for 30k last year. Bit of a Frankenstein but fuck me I wanted it.

[jasonturbo]

I'm currently shopping for a E9X M3... last of a breed and the only one with that dirt nasty V8.

[dared3vil0]

I'm currently shopping for a E9X M3... last of a breed and the only one with that dirt nasty V8.

Are you selling the NSX, Golf R, or just getting a third car?

[tofu1413]

I'm currently shopping for a E9X M3... last of a breed and the only one with that dirt nasty V8.

+1 dirty nasty V8............ :megusta:

[jasonturbo]

Are you selling the NSX, Golf R, or just getting a third car?

First of all, peasant, I have three cars - ITR, NSX, and Golf R.

The return to Van represents a lot of changes in my life, one of them is the idea of owning less and doing more, basically the opposite of being Albertan.

The current thought process is to move DT and sell all the cars, eliminate extra parking, insurance, and modding costs and then just buy an E9X M3, some KW V3's, BBS wheels, PS2's, suede wheel, exhaust, and call it a day.

Ultimately I will have a lot more cash laying around, will be less inclined to work and more inclined to vacation. The last three years for me have been nothing but work, I'm 100% ready to stop giving fucks. My new life will consist mainly of driving down to Cali, and up to Whistler.

...at least until the money runs out, which should be like 3-4 weeks at the rate I spend the shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWYbcbpiWA

Back on the subject of the thread though, I really don't care for the latest generation of BMW styling cues. Admittedly I felt the same way when Chris Bangel's flame styling was first released, so perhaps these cars will grow on me. The new M4 looks very long, almost too "GT", and the GTS to me is fairly high on the gaudy scale.

For the price, I'll take a 991 GT3 all day over the F80 M4 GTS.

[tofu1413]

^ interesting take, Lord Jasonturbo.

[Mr.Stubbz]

or at least until JT finds his kermit 997 gt3 rs and sells everything for it and goes on an endless roadtrip

but for realsies doe, you just got the nsx :yuno:

[Mr_R3]

E92 M3 is a good daily driver because its comfortable but its not that that fun to drive lol. Why because its heavy as fuck. The E46 m3 or even S2k is way more fun to toss around the street than e92 m3. Having driven the 997.2 gt3 rs for a few hours and i can tell you non of the m cars are close to its performance and pure fun factor.

But if you want a comfortable car go for the e92 m3. But personally i will take the f10 M5 or the new x5m if u want a luxury comfortable fast car.

[Z3guy]

^ you are comparing a GT3 RS to a E92 M3???? lol!

You talk about fun factor and that a E92 M3 is not fun because it is heavy as fuck but you reco a F10 M5 or X5M for a DD? those boats make a E92 M3 feel like mini....haha!

[Cman333]

I'm currently shopping for a E9X M3... last of a breed and the only one with that dirt nasty V8.

It's a lot of fun. The V8 makes the drive so worthy. It's quite heavy as others have stated. I love E46's (used to have one before too) but would still choose the E9x. Is it super fast? No. Is it fun and make you want to drive like a douche bag? Oh fuck yeah. The exhaust tone is intoxicating. :p

Gas consumption is a bitch in this thing. To the point I might get another vehicle as a daily. Do a lot of research. Throttle actuators are a common issue which are $1800/ea (there's 2), and rear tires tend to wear pretty quickly for obvious reasons, and if you're buying a 6spd. Make sure to get a 2009+ otherwise you HAVE to buy new flywheel which is $2400 plus the clutch plus the labour.

By no means a low maintenance vehicle nor a super cheap vehicle to own in general. Be prepared for $2k-5k maintenance/repair bills when something does need to be done.

[trollface]

eh... 80kg lighter, 75more hp, no backseat, liquid cooling, automatic transmission... automatic... auto... 3X+? the price of an M4

:suspicious:

I could see buying it simply because it's limited, in hopes that it'll go up in value... other than that meh

Porsche has been doing it forever with their "GT" cars.

[westopher]

Yeah after all. Pdk being in the gt3 for 3 model years now is "forever"

[JoshuaWong]

No M3 will ever be perfect, but if you told me I can only have one of them for the rest of my life to do everything with, I am pretty sure I'd choose the E92 all over again. I've driven the E46, E92, F80 and recently spent considerable amount of time in the F80.

Can't help but crack up when I jump back in the E92 after the F80 and bang that 8600rpm red line...

Heavy? a bit (actually my car has zero option except DCT, and full titanium exhaust which saves another 50lbs, it feels pretty close to our F80 in terms of weight. Its the chassis stiffness that sets it apart for me)
Comfy? for sure
Fast? fast enough

Any GT3 is a better driver tool than an M3 i'll give you that, but a better daily? Nope, and none of the newer M cars give me the same buzz as well. Driven them all except the M2, hugely fast and very efficient but missing something for me.

Actually, I'd take another NSX over a 911 even if its a GT3... I realize as long as you are alive and have money you can always pick up a GT3/911. Porsche will always make them for as long as they are in business. But NSX? that thing is special, as someone put it brilliantly: if its good enough for Ayrton Senna, its good enough for me and shall I add: if its good enough for the designer of McLaren F1, its good enough for me too

Back on topic, not very excited about the M4GTS in the same way I am not very attached to our F80...

E92 M3 is a good daily driver because its comfortable but its not that that fun to drive lol. Why because its heavy as fuck. The E46 m3 or even S2k is way more fun to toss around the street than e92 m3. Having driven the 997.2 gt3 rs for a few hours and i can tell you non of the m cars are close to its performance and pure fun factor.

But if you want a comfortable car go for the e92 m3. But personally i will take the f10 M5 or the new x5m if u want a luxury comfortable fast car.

[Z3guy]

I used to think absolute weight in a car was the same for any car, if it weighed allot, it woundn't handle or change direction well. But from my experience my previous 2008 E60 M5 and my current E93 M3 both weight approx. 4000lbs. However they both handle and feel completely differently. The E60 M5 was just a big boat with too much weight on the front end which made it push and understeer like a pig. In a turn, you had to hold your line and not make many steering adjustments or it would wallow big time. You had to really steer with your right foot, or it would just plow. However, the E93 M3 actually feels nimble and light when changing direction (I am speaking relative to the E60 M5). It doesn't plow or understeer much (unless I screw up my turn in) and is really agile especially when applying the throttle. I really think the shorter wheelbase and engine placed further back from the front axle makes a huge difference in handling.

[bcuzracecarz]

Before or after the stroker kit :ifyouknow:

[Harvey Specter]

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/BrianJesselBMW/

[Harvey Specter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv7eU3kdJV0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXdtNKQgmhc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVD25FgfoIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTrVDwIPVA0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYU5celTd8I

[ssjGoku69]

http://www.driving.co.uk/s3/st-driving-prod/uploads/2015/10/P90199444_highRes.jpg

maybe this is a stupid question, but why are there 2 door handles?

[richardmozis]

The strap is just for closing the door I assume

[77civic1200]

How do you plan on pulling the door closed without the strap? thats not 2 door handles, its a latch release and a pull handle, same as every other car

[thumper]

yeah. no pull handle just a strap...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfM2rHiWAAMF1pV.jpg

how much of a weight savings is there over the standard m4 door panel i dunno...

http://txgarage.com/images/2015/12/2016-BMW-M4-Coupe-Ferrair-Red-033.jpg

[tofu1413]

looks like a Carbon door card for the door panels.


so much for light weight special though, the mirrors are still power folding :lawl:

[Harvey Specter]

Real carbon door panel but mind you this door panel is from the SV which is $700k...

http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/lambo-aventador-sv-2015-ac-013.jpg?itok=7d1nvfbC

[E60_M5]

Pretty good review from Johnny Lieberman of MotorTrend. Just a few weeks back he was knocking on the M4 in the head to head review with a Camaro.

2016 BMW M4 GTS First Drive Review - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-bmw-m4-gts-first-drive-review/)