[swiftshift]

Hey guys, I'm considering to upgrade my old TV in my living room as I feel it will make the ambiance look more appealing with a THIN NEWER- MODERN TV..

I'm set on a 50 or 55.
I'm looking at BEST BUY, and Samsung SMART TV's have 3 different one's all within the same price range..

Just wondering if you guys would go for this
Samsung 55" 1080p HD LED Smart TV (UN55J6201AFXZC) : 53 - 59 inch TVs - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-55-1080p-hd-led-smart-tv-un55j6201afxzc-un55j6201afxzc/10394123.aspx?path=2ad553f5ca5bc6fbc44a028ecd316d4 9en02)

or
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/samsung-samsung-50-1080p-led-tizen-smart-os-tv-un50j6300afxzc-black-un50j6300afxzc/10368122.aspx?path=3d8a1cc1240d935fe9f956341ca2355 fen02

I also noticed the variations of HD / LED " TIZEN "
Couldn't really understand the differences (google researched)

[Hondaracer]

if you're gonna buy somthing new, you gotta get a 4K set

[Nabatron]

bought my 4k samsung two years ago when it first came out wont be upgrading anytime soon cuz that shit was expensive haha but best picture on the market thats for sure...

[Gucci Mane]

future proof yourself now since you need a tv anyways. dont get anything other than a 4k display..

[swiftshift]

It wont really be for everyday use..
Mainly to cater guests when people are over..
As I only have internet and not cable, would this make a difference?
4K is kind of out of budget,
I am looking toward $1300 max, 4K TV's run $2000+

[knight604]

If you are up to it, you can buy from openbox.

Openbox.ca 50" to 59" | TVs (http://www.openbox.ca/tvs/50-to-59.html)

[swiftshift]

If you are up to it, you can buy from openbox.

Openbox.ca 50" to 59" | TVs (http://www.openbox.ca/tvs/50-to-59.html)

Reading a lot of mixed reviews.
EQUAL RATIO Of GOOD AND BAD..
:chairdance:

[knight604]

Costco has some good tvs too and great warranty + return policy.

[Urrtoast]

Goto Visions Electronics and get a 4k Uhd TV.
Vision will also better the price and there extended warranty is giving back to you when its expired as a store credit if you never used it.

Forget Open box thats all used garbage and Bestbuy offers no deals..

[VR6GTI]

Been watching tv's for awhile need to pull the trigger in the next few weeks I'm thinking a 65" 4k samsung and a 75" LCD in the spare room for gaming etc. Visions definitely has better pricing from what I've seen.

[Manic!]

Vizio D55u-D1 55-in. Smart 4K Ultra HD LED TV (http://www.costco.ca/Vizio-D55u-D1-55-in.-Smart-4K-Ultra-HD-LED-TV.product.100278500.html)

4K full array LED not edge lit for under a grand.

[Hondaracer]

my parents bought a 4k vizio a while back, picture obviously isnt as good as the XBR but it's pretty nice, and i believe they got the last model at best-buy for $899 when it was going for 1200

[ScizzMoney]

The refresh rates on most 4k TV's that I have seen have been pretty shitty no?

[Jmac]

I bought a Samsung 55" TV a couple of years ago (I forget the model) and hated it. The dynamic contrast control, even at the lowest setting (impossible to turn off on that model) was ridiculous. Playing any game with a dark scene meant looking at a black screen. Any time the credits came on after a show/movie, you could barely make out the names. Samsung support was beyond useless. Picture quality was mediocre even on normal scenes, IMO. It had other issues, too. Slow, unresponsive interface, shitty SmartTV functions, etc. For about a grand, it was extremely disappointing.

I took it back after 2 weeks and got a Sony W790. It had its own problems out of the box, but it didn't take long to fix them (which was essentially disabling the power saving options, though it took a little bit to figure out that was the cause). Quite happy with the TV aside from the occasional Netflix issues.

[danned]

must get 4k tv for sure

[twitchyzero]

I'm considering to upgrade my old TV in my living room as I feel it will make the ambiance look more appealing with a THIN NEWER- MODERN TV..


:pokerface:

i would recommend a FALD display...don't waste your money on anything else in that budget no matter how 'sleek' or 'smart' they might appear.

[swiftshift]

I ended up buying this,
Samsung J6200 Series 60" 1080p 120 CMR LED Smart TV (UN60J6200) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=27364&sku=UN60J6200)

The salesman said 4K TV is pointless, an for the amount of usage I will have for this TV I think it would have been better to save couple hundred dollars

[Cman333]

Personally I think 4K is a waste at the moment. Really depends if you want to future proof yourself for 4K. Currently there's barely anything that's 4K anyways. By the time it's mainstream, pricing for 4K will drop huge and be way better.

I used to sell TV's a long time ago when flat panels were just coming out. Everyone was buying HD TV's (720p)for stupid amounts of money but again nothing was 720P anyways. Fast forward 15 years later and 1080P is finally standardized. Had I bought a HD TV then would've been a waste in my eyes. Wouldn't have been able to use the HD TV much until 8+ years after. By that time better TV's are out for less.

Makes more sense to me to just buy a 1080P TV now for like $1000, then in 5+ years upgrade when 4K TV is like $1K. End result probably spending about the same and you won't have a 1st generation 4K TV when things start coming out in 4K.

If you're a tech junky that just wants bragging rights about 4k, hardcore gamer waiting for the new PS4 4k, or have a hardcore computer you plan on hooking this to, or download 4K movies then buying 4K makes sense. Just my opinion.

I don't think UHD is gonna be mainstream until the stupid internet providers get rid of the internet caps, or double the download cap.

[Mr.HappySilp]

What's the big hype with 4k anyways. The content you watch on cable isn't even 4k heck is only 1080i. Cable companies are not going to start streaming 4k to your TV and content providers (CNN, CTV, HOB etc etc) have little to no interest to start filming their shows in 4k.

I mean do you really need to watch the news in 4k? In sports it might be useful but again there is the cost to the content provider.

[Gucci Mane]

^ its about future proofing yourself. for $1300 OP could have easilly got a 55" 4K tv and would have been fine for 6+ yrs down the road.


oh and who even watches cable tv anymore? i dont know how anyone has the patience for all those damn commercials.

[Tapioca]

I'm in the same boat. I have an "ancient" 42" Panasonic plasma that I would like to upgrade. People seem to rave about Vizios, but based on what I've seen, modern LEDs can't match the picture quality of old plasmas.

I don't think caps for 4K is really an issue these days. Unlimited downloading from re-sellers seem to be at reasonable prices. I'm looking at Lightspeed.ca and they offer unlimited downloading for another $5. I'm a Netflix subscriber so I would theoretically be able to benefit from 4K streaming.

[twitchyzero]

if you don't care too much for picture quality...a 720p set from 12 years ago is just fine.

if you're gonna dish out $1300...better get your money's worth with 4K/HDR/Rec.2020

4K didn't make sense in the last few years when the industry couldn't settle on a standard...with UHD Blu-rays finalized and shipping it'd now be a waste getting a 1080p set.

[VR6GTI]

^ its about future proofing yourself. for $1300 OP could have easilly got a 55" 4K tv and would have been fine for 6+ yrs down the road.


oh and who even watches cable tv anymore? i dont know how anyone has the patience for all those damn commercials.

With PVR pretty much standard these days who watches commercial at all anymore?

[VR6GTI]

Vizio® M70-C3 70-in. Smart 4K Ultra HD LED TV
$2,499.99

Samsung J6300 Series 75" 1080p 120 Motion Rate LED Smart TV (UN75J6300)
$3,174.00

So i assume going for the vizo 4k makes a lot more sense?
It would be spare room tv video games and the odd movie

[Hondaracer]

What's the big hype with 4k anyways. The content you watch on cable isn't even 4k heck is only 1080i. Cable companies are not going to start streaming 4k to your TV and content providers (CNN, CTV, HOB etc etc) have little to no interest to start filming their shows in 4k.

I mean do you really need to watch the news in 4k? In sports it might be useful but again there is the cost to the content provider.

The 4K panels native resolution is 4k, all content is shown in 4K regardless of the signal, so imo everything looks better automatically.

Netflix alone already has hundreds of hours of 4K content along with all the YouTube stuff.

The only people who I've ever heard argue against 4K sets are people who don't have them/haven't seen them.

My buddy has an older Elite Kuro, always said fuck 4K I'll keep my TV, then he saw my XBR and was blown away.

Obviously all TV processors are not created equal, but when I was buying my TV 2 xmas's ago, the argument THEN was "future proofing"

Obviously two years later we are over that hump and with Rogers now supporting 4K TV services, and Netflix releasing all their new original content in 4K, what a mistake to not get a 4K set imo.

[StylinRed]

future proof yourself now since you need a tv anyways. dont get anything other than a 4k display..

future proof would be waiting to the fall or next year for an 8K set ;)

Japans skipping 4k and going straight to 8k, the summer olympics will be broadcast in 8K over there :D

[Tapioca]

Vizio® M70-C3 70-in. Smart 4K Ultra HD LED TV
$2,499.99

Samsung J6300 Series 75" 1080p 120 Motion Rate LED Smart TV (UN75J6300)
$3,174.00

So i assume going for the vizo 4k makes a lot more sense?
It would be spare room tv video games and the odd movie

Rtings.com seems to rate the Vizio M-series a better value than the Samsung J6300 series. They seem to rate the Samsung J7100 highly though.

[Hondaracer]

future proof would be waiting to the fall or next year for an 8K set ;)

Japans skipping 4k and going straight to 8k, the summer olympics will be broadcast in 8K over there :D

Thing with 8k is the bandwidth requirements.

4K currently requires consistent 18mb/sec connection. Lots of homes aren't there or aren't at a connection that can continuously provide a good enough connection at that level, let alone 8k

[rageguy]

Check rtings. If you want good value, the M60-C3 is a real winner. Very popular on RFD.

[Cman333]

I think given the fact that 4K is still so new and in the grand scheme of things really there isn't alot of content. I'm probably one of those people that buy new TV's every 5 years or so.

I'm not sure on pricing now, but when I got my 65" 1.5 years ago 4K was like double/triple the price of 1080P. Just didn't make sense. If you're talking a few hundred in difference then 4K makes sense.

[swiftshift]

I think given the fact that 4K is still so new and in the grand scheme of things really there isn't alot of content. I'm probably one of those people that buy new TV's every 5 years or so.

I'm not sure on pricing now, but when I got my 65" 1.5 years ago 4K was like double/triple the price of 1080P. Just didn't make sense. If you're talking a few hundred in difference then 4K makes sense.

Thanks for all input , I may return and buy a 60 4K Tv for about $200 more

[Gucci Mane]

^ you absolutely should if its only a $200 difference...

[Manic!]

future proof would be waiting to the fall or next year for an 8K set ;)

Japans skipping 4k and going straight to 8k, the summer olympics will be broadcast in 8K over there :D

8K is not happening for a long time. Just the hardware required to edit 8k would be nuts.

[MarkyMark]

I won't be upgrading my current 55" Samsung until those OLED 4k TVs are affordable. They look so damn amazing

[VR6GTI]

Rtings.com seems to rate the Vizio M-series a better value than the Samsung J6300 series. They seem to rate the Samsung J7100 highly though.

Going to buy the 7100 for the living room

[swiftshift]

^ you absolutely should if its only a $200 difference...

Yes, I may return after what I saw.

Samsung J6200 Series 60" 1080p 120 CMR LED Smart TV (UN60J6200) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=27364&sku=UN60J6200) ( one I got )

Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=29441&sku=UN60JU6390)
better deal!?!

Ok so self research done,
It would be $150~ difference from the first link ( which is what I bought) to the 60 INCH 4K UHD TV...
BUT

From the 60INCH 4K UHD TV vs 60INCH 4KSUHD TV is a about $700 difference
Any input guys?

Should I just keep what I have or return and spend the extra $150 for the 4K UHD
THE SUHD is out of the picture for me, I am not able to spend $2400 on a TV at this time..

[twitchyzero]

did you already take delivery? Unless Visions offer to exchange it when they deliver the replacement I'd be like fuggit
that's why it's so important to do it right the first time with lots of research on these big ticket appliances

[Gucci Mane]

Yes, I may return after what I saw.

Samsung J6200 Series 60" 1080p 120 CMR LED Smart TV (UN60J6200) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=27364&sku=UN60J6200) ( one I got )

Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=29441&sku=UN60JU6390)
better deal!?!

Ok so self research done,
It would be $150~ difference from the first link ( which is what I bought) to the 60 INCH 4K UHD TV...
BUT

From the 60INCH 4K UHD TV vs 60INCH 4KSUHD TV is a about $700 difference
Any input guys?

Should I just keep what I have or return and spend the extra $150 for the 4K UHD
THE SUHD is out of the picture for me, I am not able to spend $2400 on a TV at this time..

$150 for 4k is a no-brainer IMO

[mk1freak]

Picked up a Panasonic 55cx850 a month ago best TV I ever got, upgraded from a Toshiba dlp.... Fast forward to last week
http://imgur.com/RQlw9eQ.jpg
:fulloffuck: dam 2year old twins
If you have kids either cage the TV or just get a cheap 1080p....
Expensive lesson learned... :okay:

[twitchyzero]

check if your credit card has accidental coverage

[Gucci Mane]

ouch...

[Reeyal]

Aw, that sucks man.

[bcrdukes]

Must have been the "Dinosaurs in the Snow" huh? :p

[swiftshift]

did you already take delivery? Unless Visions offer to exchange it when they deliver the replacement I'd be like fuggit
that's why it's so important to do it right the first time with lots of research on these big ticket appliances

Yeah, I picked up myself actually, so I need to pack it back into the box and return and buy the new one.. and reload it
I am going to return it tomorrow and buy the 60INCH 4K UHD for $150 more..

What are your guys thoughts on 4K UHD vs 4K SUHD (SAMSUNG) noticed its a big jump for the 4K SUHD - starts in the $2200's..

ALSO*
Would you guys buy Vizio products?
Was looking at this one
VIZIO 65" 4K Ultra HD LED 120Hz Smart TV (D65U-D2) : 60 - 69 inch TVs - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/vizio-vizio-65-4k-ultra-hd-led-120hz-smart-tv-d65u-d2-d65u-d2/10400255.aspx?path=62a0b3a1c552454b149a4bb5fbf2c81 cen02)

Comes a bit cheaper than the Samsung 60INCH 4K UHD.

vs

Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=29441&sku=UN60JU6390)

[swiftshift]

*double post

HOWEVER I will add

End of day,
http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/Details.aspx?categoryId=16&productId=29441&sku=UN60JU6390
What do you guys think about this? This is the one I have been looking at to purchase

//////////////////////////////////////////

And why do some Samsung TV cost more at 1080P than a 4K?
My guess is older models go on sale?
If anyone can confirm this

[Presto]

Would you guys buy Vizio products?
Was looking at this one
VIZIO 65" 4K Ultra HD LED 120Hz Smart TV (D65U-D2) : 60 - 69 inch TVs - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/vizio-vizio-65-4k-ultra-hd-led-120hz-smart-tv-d65u-d2-d65u-d2/10400255.aspx?path=62a0b3a1c552454b149a4bb5fbf2c81 cen02)


I like Vizio. I needed to get a TV for a meeting room, and after comparing TVs in-store, we went with the Vizio M50-C1 (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/vizio-vizio-50-4k-ultra-hd-120hz-led-smart-tv-m50-c1-silver-m50-c1/10367976.aspx). I like the QWERTY keyboard on the back of the remote. If my home TV broke today, I would get a Vizio tomorrow.

[Ferra]

The 4K panels native resolution is 4k, all content is shown in 4K regardless of the signal, so imo everything looks better automatically.

Netflix alone already has hundreds of hours of 4K content along with all the YouTube stuff.

The only people who I've ever heard argue against 4K sets are people who don't have them/haven't seen them.

My buddy has an older Elite Kuro, always said fuck 4K I'll keep my TV, then he saw my XBR and was blown away.

Obviously all TV processors are not created equal, but when I was buying my TV 2 xmas's ago, the argument THEN was "future proofing"

Obviously two years later we are over that hump and with Rogers now supporting 4K TV services, and Netflix releasing all their new original content in 4K, what a mistake to not get a 4K set imo.

But if you gotten a 1080p TV 2 years ago it would've saved you about $2k?

The money you saved 2 years ago is enough to get you another 4K TV today when contents are finally becoming available. (Plus you get an extra TV) And I think the benefits of a 4K vs 1080p TV is very minimal in last 2 years because there were so little contents available.

I'd totally get a 4K today tho considering the price difference is quite small. (e.g. many 65" 1080p at $1000-$1500, 4K are $1500-$2000)

Btw, if you dont' have unlimited bandwidth internet, dont' bother with 4K content...
You can easily go thru 100-200GB in 1 weekend

[swiftshift]

But if you gotten a 1080p TV 2 years ago it would've saved you about $2k?

The money you saved 2 years ago is enough to get you another 4K TV today when contents are finally becoming available. (Plus you get an extra TV) And I think the benefits of a 4K vs 1080p TV is very minimal in last 2 years because there were so little contents available.

I'd totally get a 4K today tho considering the price difference is quite small. (e.g. many 65" 1080p at $1000-$1500, 4K are $1500-$2000)

Btw, if you dont' have unlimited bandwidth internet, dont' bother with 4K content...
You can easily go thru 100-200GB in 1 weekend

Thanks for this, yes what made me want to just return the product was the fact it was only another additional couple hundred (not over 300-400)

I'm 100% set on buying this one
Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/details.aspx?categoryid=0&productid=29441)

However now I'm stuck debating if I should go openbox.ca

Its going for $1200-1300 CASH..
I can save 300-400$ actually however I've never bought refurbished or pre-used store display electronics..

[Nlkko]

You barely gonna use this shit. Buy a cheap large screen 1080p... Don't need 4k, save yourself 50%.

[twitchyzero]

I don't have experience with open-box but if you're gonna spend 1300 might as well buy new instead of trying save on the taxes to take a return/floor model/refurbd

I would use this as your main and move your current one for guest use.

[Gucci Mane]

vizio tv's are pretty good. just do your research on the models. with some of the higher end models only real complaints i've heard/read are that the speakers are kind of weak. a sound bar can easily fix that though..

[Hondaracer]

But if you gotten a 1080p TV 2 years ago it would've saved you about $2k?

The money you saved 2 years ago is enough to get you another 4K TV today when contents are finally becoming available. (Plus you get an extra TV) And I think the benefits of a 4K vs 1080p TV is very minimal in last 2 years because there were so little contents available.

I'd totally get a 4K today tho considering the price difference is quite small. (e.g. many 65" 1080p at $1000-$1500, 4K are $1500-$2000)

Btw, if you dont' have unlimited bandwidth internet, dont' bother with 4K content...
You can easily go thru 100-200GB in 1 weekend

The XBR line is still $2100+ today for slightly better tech.

Happy with my purchase and the TV will last me years into the future. I'm not the type of person to wait forever on somthing

[bcrdukes]

Thanks for this, yes what made me want to just return the product was the fact it was only another additional couple hundred (not over 300-400)

I'm 100% set on buying this one
Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/details.aspx?categoryid=0&productid=29441)

However now I'm stuck debating if I should go openbox.ca

Its going for $1200-1300 CASH..
I can save 300-400$ actually however I've never bought refurbished or pre-used store display electronics..

For something delicate like a television, I normally would not forgo the savings, unless the savings is well over 30% off MSRP and other personal circumstances.

As mentioned earlier by another member, I would encourage you to buy something new. Not having 4K is not the end of the world, given that there is a limited amount of content available any way. There are plenty of other options that are less than $1000.

[swiftshift]

Thanks everyone for your replies, and opinions.
Took care of the return last night and picked up my new TV,

Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/details.aspx?categoryid=0&productid=29441)

I think I will be happy with this!

[Hondaracer]

once you've got it setup use the build in Netflix App and check out their streaming 4k content (you will have to upgrade your netflix account to the premium membership)

keep in mind, you will -only- get true 4k content through the TV's built in app, not using appleTV etc.

they have some good demo footage, such as their waterfalls, forest, etc. in the "4k" section. You wont be disappointed.

[swiftshift]

once you've got it setup use the build in Netflix App and check out their streaming 4k content (you will have to upgrade your netflix account to the premium membership)

keep in mind, you will -only- get true 4k content through the TV's built in app, not using appleTV etc.

they have some good demo footage, such as their waterfalls, forest, etc. in the "4k" section. You wont be disappointed.
Yeah I have the 11.99 premium account, was able to see this

[ph0]

Thanks everyone for your replies, and opinions.
Took care of the return last night and picked up my new TV,

Samsung JU6390 Series 60" UHD 4K LED Smart TV (UN60JU6390) (http://www.visions.ca/catalogue/category/details.aspx?categoryid=0&productid=29441)

I think I will be happy with this!

Sorry to hijack your thread but how is the TV? I was currently looking at the same one and debating if I should grab it or an LG 55" 4K for abit cheaper

[swiftshift]

Sorry to hijack your thread but how is the TV? I was currently looking at the same one and debating if I should grab it or an LG 55" 4K for abit cheaper

Design is beautiful, everything seems ok
But yes there isnt much 4k content, so it mainly is for future proofing.
What I HDMI off my laptop appears as in but that's ok.
What I watch on netflix is entirely differnet, the quality and clarity is insane

I'd recommend just going to Vision's and seeing the show room