[Verdasco]

Fox Business | Business News & Stock Quotes - Saving & Investing (http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...-per-hour.html)

“I was at the National Restaurant Show yesterday and if you look at the robotic devices that are coming into the restaurant industry -- it’s cheaper to buy a $35,000 robotic arm than it is to hire an employee who’s inefficient making $15 an hour bagging French fries -- it’s nonsense and it’s very destructive and it’s inflationary and it’s going to cause a job loss across this country like you’re not going to believe,” said former McDonald’s (MCD) USA CEO Ed Rensi


he is 1000% on point. Every province must look things differently and adjust according to their cost of living. Just lol @ places like Michigan having $15.00 min wage. No one will afford anything and no one will get jobs!

[underscore]

The idea of a national minimum wage in countries with such a wide variety of living costs (like Canada and the US) is a fucking joke.

[Armind]

No more $14 dolla balla?

[Timpo]

The idea of a national minimum wage in countries with such a wide variety of living costs (like Canada and the US) is a fucking joke.

ok so what's the BC minimum wage should be?

[zulutango]

The real effect that mandating a minimum $15 wage is that who actually will pay it to the employees? Businesses do not manufacture money...like the government..the money they have comes from somebody else. The "free money" government gives away comes from your taxes.They take it from somebody who earned it and give it to someone who did not. The increased wage costs must be passed on to the consumers and that means prices will either go up or the business will go out of business.

Most of the businesses paying minimum wage operate on small profit margins and they must retain that margin or close theiur doors. The people behind this $15 an hour meme are often unions. They support it for two reasons : they are trolling for more members....and they know that all their contracts that are based on the minimum wage plus$$ deals will mean they get more money from this increase. The fact that employers will be forced to likely lay off existing employees to meet the cost increases is just collateral damage.

[Reeyal]

Inflation is a pretty simple concept. Simply put: If wage goes up, the price for goods and services go up.

[ziggyx]

This video is related to what the former McDonalds CEO says about robots replacing workers, which I find very interesting.

http://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU

[Nlkko]

Technology to replace manual labor. That's how we evolve. Cut out the fat being the minimum skill jobs like call center, transportation drivers, construction workers, manufacturing jobs will leave more room for companies to invest in further advanced technology and go forward. This is not a diss on those jobs, just a reality that these jobs will be gone in 50-100 years time.

[dat_steve]

I'd be curious as to what a robot made quarter pounder would be like. maybe it'll look more like the menu pic and not a squished lopsided delicious mess.

If robots take over McD's, are they going to program some sort of "death stare" mechanism into the cashier for when i ask for another bbq sauce? wouldn't be the same without it.

[bcrdukes]

Maybe smiles will no longer be free. :okay:

[SumAznGuy]

In many parts of the world, McD has already eliminated some of the jobs with touch screen menu boards where you can place your order and pay for it and you get that little piece of paper with a number on it.
It's just gonna take time but soon they will have automated machines to cook and prepare the food and have just 1 or 2 people to man the machines and make sure they function properly.
Much like how those mini donuts are made at the PNE or Krispy Kreme donuts.

[SumAznGuy]

Maybe smiles will no longer be free. :okay:

If we see Smoothie smiling, we know where his hands are. :badpokerface:

[pastarocket]

Technology to replace manual labor. That's how we evolve. Cut out the fat being the minimum skill jobs like call center, transportation drivers, construction workers, manufacturing jobs will leave more room for companies to invest in further advanced technology and go forward. This is not a diss on those jobs, just a reality that these jobs will be gone in 50-100 years time.


If McD's uses more touch screen menus and robotic arms in their restaurants, who is gonna take orders in the drive thru? :considered:

You would need advanced voice recognition software to recognize the different voices and accents of customers ordering through the drive thru.

Put a cyborg or android to work at the drive thru counter? :troll:

She better look hot with big titties to provide that good customer service experience. :lawl:

[jeedee]

speaking of insufficient McDonald's worker; asked for no mayo on all my mcwraps last night > ended up with mayo in all of my mcwraps

yeah these fuckers definitely don't deserve $15/for this fuck up!

[Manic!]

it does not matter if the minimum wage is 7 bux or 15 bux a $30000 robot that can work all day without a break is still cheaper. The technology is not there yet but if it was they would have replaced all the workers already.

[Timpo]

In many parts of the world, McD has already eliminated some of the jobs with touch screen menu boards where you can place your order and pay for it and you get that little piece of paper with a number on it.
It's just gonna take time but soon they will have automated machines to cook and prepare the food and have just 1 or 2 people to man the machines and make sure they function properly.
Much like how those mini donuts are made at the PNE or Krispy Kreme donuts.We have that in Canada already.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3522324/images/o-MCDONALDS-facebook.jpg

[unit]

well they're gonna raise prices for food, cut workers, automate, maybe use cheaper ingredients, etc...

for a public company like them, they aren't going to just accept that they will make less money.

[jackmeister]

what they really need first is to allow us to order on our phones so i don't have to line up 20 mins for my small cone that i finish in 5 mins

[StylinRed]

well they're gonna raise prices for food, cut workers, automate, maybe use cheaper ingredients, etc...

for a public company like them, they aren't going to just accept that they will make less money.

a corporations goal is to maximize profits, cheaper ingredients? maybe so, if they could they would be selling leftovers to people, but the government is there to stop them from doing that...

people seem to support corporate overlords on here, and put down the government... if it weren't for the government you'd be working for peanuts and living at your job place so that you can be available 24/7 (look at China)


what they really need first is to allow us to order on our phones so i don't have to line up 20 mins for my small cone that i finish in 5 mins

it takes you 5 mins to finish a small cone? wtf! one gulp n its gone!

[unit]

i support a living wage but not for everybody. someone who lives at home with their parents and is going to school probably doesn't need $15/hr, but someone who has to pay rent and has expenses definitely does. the system needs to help the latter.

[radioman]

Starbucks mobile order is a thing now. I use it daily. Beats waiting in line for 5 minutes.

[StylinRed]

a corporations goal is to maximize profits, cheaper ingredients? maybe so, if they could they would be selling leftovers to people, but the government is there to stop them from doing that...

people seem to support corporate overlords on here, and put down the government... if it weren't for the government you'd be working for peanuts and living at your job place so that you can be available 24/7 (look at China)


And look even in China where employees are working for peanuts and living on site. With no government oversight, the mighty corporation still wants cheaper employment, so they're cutting jobs
Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots' - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966)

Apple and Samsung supplier Foxconn has reportedly replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots.
One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.
Xu Yulian, head of publicity for the Kunshan region, added: "More companies are likely to follow suit."
China is investing heavily in a robot workforce.
In a statement to the BBC, Foxconn Technology Group confirmed that it was automating "many of the manufacturing tasks associated with our operations" but denied that it meant long-term job losses.
"We are applying robotics engineering and other innovative manufacturing technologies to replace repetitive tasks previously done by employees, and through training, also enable our employees to focus on higher value-added elements in the manufacturing process, such as research and development, process control and quality control.
"We will continue to harness automation and manpower in our manufacturing operations, and we expect to maintain our significant workforce in China."
Since September 2014, 505 factories across Dongguan, in the Guangdong province, have invested 4.2bn yuan (£430m) in robots, aiming to replace thousands of workers.
Kunshan, Jiangsu province, is a manufacturing hub for the electronics industry.
Economists have issued dire warnings about how automation will affect the job market, with one report, from consultants Deloitte in partnership with Oxford University, suggesting that 35% of jobs were at risk over the next 20 years.
Former McDonald's chief executive Ed Rensi recently told the US's Fox Business programme a minimum-wage increase to $15 an hour would make companies consider robot workers.
"It's cheaper to buy a $35,000 robotic arm than it is to hire an employee who is inefficient, making $15 an hour bagging French fries," he said.


Foxxconn just cut 60,000 jobs and replaced them with automation... so you really can't be sticking up for the corporations and thumbing your noses at the government for trying to put in rules and minimums for corporations to follow, because even without the govt there, the corporations are going to cut jobs. at least the government will try to look out for you (as long as they're not entirely in the pocket book of companies)

[carisear]

If McD's uses more touch screen menus and robotic arms in their restaurants, who is gonna take orders in the drive thru? :considered:



you just answered your own question .. touch screen menu at the drive through ... would be infinitely better than the current voice ordering system.

[nns]

one gulp n its gone!

:ifyouknow::troll:

[Hehe]

Introducing a minimum wage beyond what current price on goods can support is dumb.

It simply gives motivation for companies to invest heavily into automation systems that didn't make financial sense when it was $9/hr. And when that system is done, there will be no turning back even if you reverse the minimum wage. They have found something cheaper.

Same idea as oil market. When price was through the roof, OPEC didn't want to act as they were being flushed with money. Then the price gave enough incentive to develop new techs and that made possible to extract oil from pretty much anywhere... the oil tanked.

[kr4l]

You guys are talking about big corporations only. They will survive because they have the capital to have machines run there businesses.

As a small business owner, if the min. Wage went up to $15, I will need to pay my managers more than the idiot that makes $15 or it won't be fair. My staff will be cut in half, your bbt will cost $10, you're wait time will be half an hour, I will have to use the shittiest quality of ingredients, or I'll probably be out of business like the other 90% of businesses out there.

[dat_steve]

you have a bbt shop?

[Manic!]

i support a living wage but not for everybody. someone who lives at home with their parents and is going to school probably doesn't need $15/hr, but someone who has to pay rent and has expenses definitely does. the system needs to help the latter.

Equal pay for equal work. To people doing the same job should get paid the same.

[Nlkko]

i support a living wage but not for everybody. someone who lives at home with their parents and is going to school probably doesn't need $15/hr, but someone who has to pay rent and has expenses definitely does. the system needs to help the latter.

You mean you? The system gets money from you me and everyone else who has the mean. It doesnt grow money on a tree.

I support living wage for essential workers only when we have 0 mean to replace them. That can be transit drivers, hospital workers, etc. The moment there is a mean to replace them, the system better shows them the door. Trixie and Beef flipping burgers at McD are not essential workers.

Some of these guys then can obtain new skills, education to transition to a new career that a robot cant do. Some won't and they can say goodbye to quality of life while setting up Occupy camp to protest.

Over the last century, a lot jobs have disappeared while new ones added. For the better. The cycle goes on.

[MarkyMark]

Perhaps a business should have a base wage for their workers based on what they make that year. If you're raking in billions in profit maybe you shouldn't get to pay your workers the same as a mom and pop shop just staying above water. Just spitballing here...Anyways, a company that can replace people with robots are going to do it eventually as technology gets better.

[Bouncing Bettys]

No point in having a minimum wage without a maximum wage.

[kr4l]

you have a bbt shop?

I own 'the bbt shop'. I also own an ice cream shop too.

[MG1]

I'll do one better......... I own a massage parlour.



I win!

[SumAznGuy]

I'll do one better......... I own a massage parlour.



I win!

Depends if they are young low mileage pups or old high mileage hags.

[CRS]

List the BBT shop. Will visit.

IB4 RS discount.

:lol

[smoothie.]

captain happy bubble.

[dat_steve]

I think it's this one:

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-bubble-tea-shop-richmond-2

If so, I've been a few times. Bubble waffles are good stuff!

[Spoon]

List the BBT shop. Will visit.

IB4 RS discount.

:lol

He already answered your questions, it's literally called "The BBT Shop". :lol
https://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-bbt-shop-vancouver

[Liquid_o2]

HK BBQ Master and BBT Shop all in one parking lot :chairdance:

[kr4l]

I already have an RS discount but mostly for the bike forum guys

[MG1]

Depends if they are young low mileage pups or old high mileage hags.

Young and tiny with strong fingers that would bring down many a big boys and make them weep.

Trained in the ancient asian art of "ai no puro bu".


A branch of Aikido........ and zen

[SkinnyPupp]

Once enough jobs are automated [like robots serving french fries, bus drivers, delivery, etc] what will happen is a basic salary for everyone in the country. IE you get paid $30K a year just for being there. That will give you enough to get by with whatever comfortable life you want, and from there if you want to make more, you can do whatever you want on top of that. Schools should also be subsidized, making that accessible to everyone as well.

The argument over minimum wage is a dying one IMO

[Spoon]

Once enough jobs are automated [like robots serving french fries, bus drivers, delivery, etc] what will happen is a basic salary for everyone in the country. IE you get paid $30K a year just for being there. That will give you enough to get by with whatever comfortable life you want, and from there if you want to make more, you can do whatever you want on top of that. Schools should also be subsidized, making that accessible to everyone as well.

They have that already, it's called welfare.

[SkinnyPupp]

They have that already, it's called welfare.
No

[Stormspirit]

You guys are talking about big corporations only. They will survive because they have the capital to have machines run there businesses.

As a small business owner, if the min. Wage went up to $15, I will need to pay my managers more than the idiot that makes $15 or it won't be fair. My staff will be cut in half, your bbt will cost $10, you're wait time will be half an hour, I will have to use the shittiest quality of ingredients, or I'll probably be out of business like the other 90% of businesses out there.

You call that hot chick u hired an idiot? damn...

[Jmac]

:worthless:You call that hot chick u hired an idiot? damn...

[kr4l]

You call that hot chick u hired an idiot? damn...

I honestly don't even know what you're talking about

[CRS]

I already have an RS discount but mostly for the bike forum guys

So....

Whats the secret code?

:fullofwin:

[Galactic_Phantom]

I honestly don't even know what you're talking about

The ones at Lik seem pretty dope :ahwow:

[jasonturbo]

Equal pay for equal work. Two people doing the same job should get paid the same.

In terms of position held or actual work performed?

IE: I'm a professional box mover, I move 400 boxes per day, my peers move 200 boxes per day, should we be compensated equally?

I believe in paying for performance. If you feel as though your employer does not compensate you adequately for the work you perform, and you're actually a strong performer, it should not be difficult to find another employer who will pay you more.

Capitalism.. I swear, it works if you just let it work. :nyan:

[dat_steve]

You call that hot chick u hired an idiot? damn...

i think he's referring to the mcdonald's staff in the states as "idiots" in this context, not his staff.

[Digitalis]

Just look at what happened in seattle when they pulled this crap all the small businesses packed up and went to smaller towns to get around it.
You guys are talking about big corporations only. They will survive because they have the capital to have machines run there businesses.

As a small business owner, if the min. Wage went up to $15, I will need to pay my managers more than the idiot that makes $15 or it won't be fair. My staff will be cut in half, your bbt will cost $10, you're wait time will be half an hour, I will have to use the shittiest quality of ingredients, or I'll probably be out of business like the other 90% of businesses out there.

[Verdasco]

I own 'the bbt shop'. I also own an ice cream shop too.

RS discount on The BBT Shop? I always go there in downtown :fullofwin: 4Head

Just wondering, why isn't there a durian flavour ? I tried searching last week in DT location but no durian available.

Anyways, back on topic....

[The_AK]

We have that in Canada already.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3522324/images/o-MCDONALDS-facebook.jpg

These are at Schiphol in Amsterdam too, I felt very welcomed compared to the typical McDonald's employee

[StylinRed]

They have that already, it's called welfare.

i think only a handful of places follow Universal Welfare systems, i can see how that makes sense, those that don't need it will spend it wastefully, those that need it will spend it on their day to day needs, both groups put the money back into the economy

[westopher]

Fox Business | Business News & Stock Quotes - Saving & Investing (http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/...-per-hour.html)
“I was at the National Restaurant Show yesterday and if you look at the robotic devices that are coming into the restaurant industry -- it’s cheaper to buy a $35,000 robotic arm than it is to hire an employee who’s inefficient making $15 an hour bagging French fries -- it’s nonsense and it’s very destructive and it’s inflationary and it’s going to cause a job loss across this country like you’re not going to believe,” said former McDonald’s (MCD) USA CEO Ed Rensi



he is 1000% on point. Every province must look things differently and adjust according to their cost of living. Just lol @ places like Michigan having $15.00 min wage. No one will afford anything and no one will get jobs!
Pretty flawed logic. If that robotic arm is there it doesn't matter if the employee gets paid 5.00 or 30.00 an hour. Their job will be eliminated regardless, its just matter of if its tomorrow or in a year or 2.
If the option of automation is as efficient as he believes, the wage is basically irrelevant, because that robotic fry arm is going to pay for its self pretty fucking fast.
Its trying to prove his point because he has an obvious personal issue with people getting paid that much.

[nabs]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13240541_1579787518701632_2534143058142107250_n.pn g?oh=420da555732cf1c87a35b5de44a34e38&oe=579AF85A

[Manic!]

Pretty flawed logic. If that robotic arm is there it doesn't matter if the employee gets paid 5.00 or 30.00 an hour. Their job will be eliminated regardless, its just matter of if its tomorrow or in a year or 2.
If the option of automation is as efficient as he believes, the wage is basically irrelevant, because that robotic fry arm is going to pay for its self pretty fucking fast.
Its trying to prove his point because he has an obvious personal issue with people getting paid that much.

100% right. Even at $5 a hour Mcdicks would have to pay $120 for a 24 hour period times that by 365 days that's $43800 in wages that's not including all the other expenses. One robot making fries would replace 3 or 4 employees at the very minimum.

[unit]

i don't see why a lot of jobs at mcds couldnt be automated.
they already automated drinks at the drive thru, i can totally see them automating the making of food as well.

[jasonturbo]

McLuddites

[MG1]

i don't see why a lot of jobs at mcds couldnt be automated.
they already automated drinks at the drive thru, i can totally see them automating the making of food as well.

At least my Fillet o' Fish would be put together right. Haven't had a nicely made one in like........... ever.

Cheese half off the bun, sauce dripping down the bun, fish over-nuked, etc.



EDIT: just saw nabs' post, lol. That's about right..............

[GLOW]

or it'll be correct and not have missing items or wrong item.
that's why you have to look in your bag to ensure the order is right or else you'll be leaving disappointed or short on food

[Obsideon]

It has already begun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1MMW_KZdM

[Obsideon]

I own 'the bbt shop'. I also own an ice cream shop too.

Is this the one in DT?
https://www.yelp.ca/biz/the-bbt-shop-vancouver

Dang we practically neighbours! Will definitely drop by to support a fellow RSer when I can!

[Manic!]

Robot chef makes 5 star meals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDprrrEdomM

[zulutango]

But can it curse and abuse cooks like Jamie Oliver...or look like Nigella?

[GLOW]

But can it curse and abuse cooks like Jamie Oliver...or look like Nigella?

soon...
The Scarlett Johansson Bot Is the Robotic Future of Objectifying Women | WIRED (http://www.wired.com/2016/04/the-scarlett-johansson-bot-signals-some-icky-things-about-our-future/)

don't you mean gordan ramsey not jamie oliver?