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Florida Nightclub shooting 50 Dead and 50+ injured
Tegra_Devil
06-12-2016, 06:54 AM
don't know how this isn't on here yet
Orlando Pulse Club shooting: Live updates after 50 killed in America's worst mass shooting as gunman storms gay nightclub - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/orlando-pulse-club-shooting-live-8171546)
UPDATE: this is now the worst mass shooting in US history
UPDATE 2: Gunman was Omar Saddiqui Mateen, unknown if Terrorist or not. ISIS praising attacks
StylinRed
06-12-2016, 07:11 AM
holy fuck, when i heard about it last night, they weren't saying how many had died, i don't think they knew yet, so it didn't seem like a big deal, thought maybe it was a gang shooting even though they were suggesting it may be a hate crime as it happened in a gay bar... omfg 50!
and they just had that other shooting the other day which could have turned out a lot worse, where the singer Grimmie was murdered, that shooter had multiple clips and guns
Tegra_Devil
06-12-2016, 07:13 AM
the states are fuuuuuckkkked up.
also, get a few more of these. trump is the easy winner for POTUS
Eastwood
06-12-2016, 07:58 AM
This is terrible. I'm worried they're going to hit France during the Euro's.
Trudeau wants to bring more of these people in too...
I have a feeling Obama is going to try to spin this on gun rights over Islamic Terrorism....
JSALES
06-12-2016, 08:01 AM
Fucking America.
So it's either a mass shooting or a terrorist attack?
Eastwood
06-12-2016, 08:07 AM
Fucking America.
So it's either a mass shooting or a terrorist attack?
Its not America's fault.
It was Islam again.
FBI: Suspect Bragged About Ties To 'Terrorist Organizations' | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/12/fbi-suspect-bragged-about-ties-to-terrorist-organizations/)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/06/12/0612-omar-mateen-nypd-shirts-myspace-4.jpg
SkinnyPupp
06-12-2016, 09:19 AM
When I first heard of this, 20 were dead and he had hostages... Apparently cops waited outside to negotiate, and he just killed the rest of them
People are indoctrinated with so much fucking hatred, then the crazy ones end up doing this shit.
vitaminG
06-12-2016, 09:39 AM
It was a gay bar, who wants to bet he was a closet case himself
Bouncing Bettys
06-12-2016, 10:13 AM
Islam is a religion of peace.
Breaking News– Verified account @BreakingNews
Omar Mateen called 911 just before club shooting, swore allegiance to Islamic State, multiple law enforcement officials say - NBC News
10:11 am - 12 Jun 2016
Lomac
06-12-2016, 10:23 AM
This is terrible. I'm worried they're going to hit France during the Euro's.
Trudeau wants to bring more of these people in too...
I have a feeling Obama is going to try to spin this on gun rights over Islamic Terrorism....
Islam =/= Islamic State
7seven
06-12-2016, 10:33 AM
also, get a few more of these. trump is the easy winner for POTUS
yup, this has a strong potential for swaying those in the middle/undecided to Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSy7twfhXM
Eastwood
06-12-2016, 10:49 AM
Islam =/= Islamic State
No doubt its just a few bad apples. We've been telling ourselves that since 9/11.
The guy is also American. He didn't travel from the middle east to attack a night club.
I agree though Islam =/= Islamic State. Too bad Islamic State had nothing to do with this.
Manic!
06-12-2016, 11:43 AM
This is terrible. I'm worried they're going to hit France during the Euro's.
Trudeau wants to bring more of these people in too...
I have a feeling Obama is going to try to spin this on gun rights over Islamic Terrorism....
I know these bloody Americans. We need to build a southern and northern wall to keep gun toting Americans out.
Lomac
06-12-2016, 11:47 AM
I know these bloody Americans. We need to build a southern and northern wall to keep gun toting Americans out.
I'm one of those gun toting Americans.
:okay:
Bouncing Bettys
06-12-2016, 12:01 PM
Trump will get a boost from this especially with Hillary saying not to blame Islam.
@RubinReport
C'mon #RegressiveLeft, pretend this was a Christian refusing to bake a gay cake and show us your patented moral outrage... #Orlando
https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/742011501737738242
I'm one of those gun toting Americans.
:okay:
LOL at avatar
Tegra_Devil
06-12-2016, 12:28 PM
Ooooo exciting. My Facebook feed has already brought out the "if people were allowed to carry" and "need more guns" crowd. I really gotta unfriend some people lol
Bouncing Bettys
06-12-2016, 12:34 PM
Oops
http://i65.tinypic.com/r05kk8.jpg
Eastwood
06-12-2016, 12:54 PM
Being gay is a crime punishable by death in every Muslim country.
http://www.bruceonpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Islam-gay-650.jpg
Ok Hillary...
http://i.imgur.com/tCi5bdX.jpg
Manic!
06-12-2016, 01:05 PM
Ooooo exciting. My Facebook feed has already brought out the "if people were allowed to carry" and "need more guns" crowd. I really gotta unfriend some people lol
Cause alcohol and guns make a great combo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuuw8pT5ny0
StylinRed
06-12-2016, 01:49 PM
Being gay is a crime punishable by death in every Muslim country.
no, it's not... many have offered more gay rights than the UK/US did for ages... like Turkey and Jordan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Jordan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Turkey
Same-sex sexual activity was legalized in the Ottoman Empire (predecessor of Turkey) in 1858 and in modern Turkey,
in indonesia there are no lgbt rights, but it is also not illegal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Indonesia
whereas in the UK and US similar lgbt rights were non-existent until recently (past decade, decade and a half) it wasn't until recent years where lgbt rights surpassed those that were offered in some muslim nations and the once ottoman empire
there are other examples too, like Lebanon, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, etc., granted there are also countries which criminalize it, but the point is your statement is false
CharlesInCharge
06-12-2016, 01:59 PM
CIC?Who knows whats going on... but this threads been spammed already.
A few streams.
live stream | WFTV (http://www.wftv.com/live-stream1)
Watch WESH 2 News | Local News - WESH Home (http://www.wesh.com/nowcast)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXbuP19AWDM&feature=youtu.be
StylinRed
06-12-2016, 02:09 PM
This is terrible. I'm worried they're going to hit France during the Euro's.
should be more worried about the islamaphobes, one was arrested with weapons, rpgs, bombs, and plans to bomb mosques and synagogues during Euro 2016
one guy was arrested but he has accomplices apparently
Arrest of Frenchman with three rocket launchers and 100 kilos of TNT raises fresh Euro 2016 security fears
Arrest of Frenchman with three rocket launchers and 100 kilos of TNT raises fresh Euro 2016 security fears (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/05/arrest-of-frenchman-with-three-rocket-launchers-and-100-kilos-of/)
News World news Terrorism
Euro 2016 terror arrest: Police hunt accomplices of 'immigrant hating' Frenchman 'who planned devastating attacks during football tournament'
Euro 2016 terror arrest: Police hunt accomplices of 'immigrant hating' Frenchman 'who planned devastating attacks during football tournament' - Mirror Online (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/euro-2016-terror-arrest-police-8127012)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36460569
And with security extremely lax (the hooligans were able to get fireworks, etc inside the venues) at the Euro 2016 venues, i'd say ^^^ that's a more credible concerning threat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/12/euro-2016-uefa-investigate-violence-between-england-and-russia-f/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36510550
Bouncing Bettys
06-12-2016, 02:45 PM
http://youtu.be/Q7hvz2zk6Pc
Eastwood
06-12-2016, 02:50 PM
no, it's not...
I stand corrected. Its still dangerous to be openly gay in those countries however...
A good write-up by a GAY republican.
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/12/left-chose-islam-gays-now-100-people-killed-maimed-orlando/
StylinRed
06-12-2016, 03:12 PM
I stand corrected. Its still dangerous to be openly gay in those countries however...
probably, especially in parts of the those countries, as is true anywhere else i suppose (even here in downtown van), but i couldn't really say otherwise... though Pride parades/marches are held in Turkey/Indonesia/? according to the Gay Pride Calendar (http://www.gaypridecalendar.com/) and google
Manic!
06-12-2016, 03:30 PM
This guy was known by the FBI to be an ISIS sympathizer and yet he was still able to go to a gun shop and buy guns.
Thanks NRA for allowing ISIS sympathizers and people on the terrorist watch list the ability to buy guns.
I wonder who's side the NRA is are really on.
CharlesInCharge
06-12-2016, 03:34 PM
Whats with the NYPD shirts
https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-661129.html
ilovebacon
06-12-2016, 03:43 PM
why would isis aim for a gay night club, when they could've gone for something bigger
Manic!
06-12-2016, 03:49 PM
why would isis aim for a gay night club, when they could've gone for something bigger
The dude was a homophobie and he picked the target.
why would isis aim for a gay night club, when they could've gone for something bigger
because if he hit up a straight club in florida he woulda had at least 100 more guns pointed right back at him the size of lil' bow wow :gun:
why would isis aim for a gay night club, when they could've gone for something bigger
He's not ISIS, just an ISIS sympathizer. Dunno, maybe doing it to build cred?
westopher
06-12-2016, 07:29 PM
This guy isn't ISIS. He doesn't represent ISIS. ISIS didn't call him at home to chat before he went to the STORE to buy guns LEGALLY in AMERICA with a history of UTTERING THREATS and VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR.
Is that clear enough what the problem is here?
Mr.Money
06-12-2016, 09:22 PM
he was mentally unstable and became violent what his Ex-girlfriend said...Co-workers even contacted the fbi when they heard he supported the violent acts happening on the news.
highfive
06-12-2016, 09:49 PM
I don't get why that gun laws end up being yes gun and no guns. Why can't there just be a strict psychological test before you're allowed to purchase a weapon. filter out all the mentally ill. Either to hurt others or themselves.
CorneringArtist
06-12-2016, 10:02 PM
I don't get why that gun laws end up being yes gun and no guns. Why can't there just be a strict psychological test before you're allowed to purchase a weapon. filter out all the mentally ill. Either to hurt others or themselves.
Because Americans will vehemently defend a constitutional right intended to defend against attacks from Colonial Britain before relinquishing any loss of right to access guns. All they have to do is restrict based on mental illness history or even if they're on the FBI watch list, which this guy was on. But no, muh right to bear arms will always set the precedent.
Manic!
06-12-2016, 10:12 PM
I don't get why that gun laws end up being yes gun and no guns. Why can't there just be a strict psychological test before you're allowed to purchase a weapon. filter out all the mentally ill. Either to hurt others or themselves.
Because that would mean gun manufactures would sell less guns making less money. Then NRA would also men the NRA gets less money.
Was looking forward to the season premiere of the series The Last Ship. It was postponed due to the shooting, which I thought was a little weird, but after I found out what the episode was about, I can understand why.
It has scenes of a shooting in a nightclub.
Good move, I say.
Vansterdam
06-13-2016, 07:38 AM
Was looking forward to the season premiere of the series The Last Ship. It was postponed due to the shooting, which I thought was a little weird, but after I found out what the episode was about, I can understand why.
It has scenes of a shooting in a nightclub.
Good move, I say.
I heard about this too. but then found both episode 1+2 on a torrent site :badpokerface:
a bit off topic but The Last Ship is a dope show you guys should check out if you haven't already
Hondaracer
06-13-2016, 09:11 AM
BGkkACLnkt7
'Merica
fsy82
06-13-2016, 09:36 AM
This dude was interviewed twice by the FBI and yet they still let him go. America is royally messed up
6o4__boi
06-13-2016, 09:47 AM
This guy isn't ISIS. He doesn't represent ISIS. ISIS didn't call him at home to chat before he went to the STORE to buy guns LEGALLY in AMERICA with a history of UTTERING THREATS and VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR.
Is that clear enough what the problem is here?
man, i've pretty much given up on wading into these topics
America is a lost cause...they've got so much clueless morons who couldn't acknowledge or recognize issues if it was a giant loaded gun staring them in the face
you just can't argue with stupid
if they couldn't do shit when those kids died, they can't do shit forever.
god forbid if someone went on a rampage and killed 500+, they still wouldn't be able to do so shit
but let's just pray for the victims and families, because prayers solve every fucking problem imaginable. /s
SkinnyPupp
06-13-2016, 10:00 AM
man, i've pretty much given up on wading into these topics
America is a lost cause...they've got so much clueless morons who couldn't acknowledge or recognize issues if it was a giant loaded gun staring them in the face
you just can't argue with stupid
if they couldn't do shit when those kids died, they can't do shit forever.
god forbid if someone went on a rampage and killed 500+, they still wouldn't be able to do so shit
but let's just pray for the victims and families, because prayers solve every fucking problem imaginable. /s
So the real problem is that not enough people have guns?
minoru_tanaka
06-13-2016, 10:34 AM
Islam is a religion of peace.
Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people............
http://i2.wp.com/listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sartre-e1377429497423.jpeg?resize=632%2C456
6o4__boi
06-13-2016, 10:36 AM
So the real problem is that not enough people have guns?
that's a loaded question...
Not at all, I'd be inclined to say too many people have guns but that's not the problem either.
The problem imo is a combination of gun accessibility, crippling inaction from policy makers on control/distribution/background checks, retarded gun-rights lobbyist, and on another level, America's mental health framework.
Sid Vicious
06-13-2016, 11:02 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Woft45S.jpg
"Al Mutar is a critic of the term "Islamophobia." He says use of the term has broadened by some on the left to include legitimate criticism of Islam. He differentiates between criticizing ideas and criticizing people. Al Mutar criticizes what he sees as an "unholy alliance" of the regressive left and the Muslim right against the secular or liberal Muslims, which he says applies different moral standards to Muslims."
God bless, doing the good work
dat_steve
06-13-2016, 11:02 AM
that's a loaded question...
that's a good pun.
SpartanAir
06-13-2016, 11:33 AM
Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 12, 2016
Only Donald Trump has the unique ability to somehow make a mass slaughtering about him. :facepalm:
jasonturbo
06-13-2016, 12:04 PM
Does anyone else hate these fucking chronic sympathizers?
It's like every disaster/act of terror/etc is somehow directly impacting them, as if their personal life is impacted every time something bad happens. (Only something bad that is captured by the western news outlets, because CNN/FB is the only news source that exists when you're a basic bitch)
Go get some more LIKES while you bounce up and down on the "bad shit happened" dick. It's not like you are actively doing anything with your life to fight these social and climate issues, you just walk around in your tentree shirt like the hero you are.
I can sympathize without the need to post some "look at me" shit on FB, maybe I'm special and deserve attention for that.
End rant - shitty deal for those homos tho. Too late for intense federal gun control wayyy too many guns in circulation, it's the same reason the long gun registry failed here in Canada.
vitaminG
06-13-2016, 01:10 PM
you cant just ban anyone the FBI ever investigates from owning a gun. theyve probably investigated millions of people whove never gone on to commit any crime.
Bouncing Bettys
06-13-2016, 01:42 PM
TJ pretty much sums up my sentiments on the issues
http://youtu.be/sl0-GFX3BYg
fsy82
06-13-2016, 02:27 PM
Its funny how mainstream media won't say anything about the bombing that took place in Syria the same day as this shooting. Which killed innocent children and families just before they broke their fast for the day.
Manic!
06-13-2016, 02:44 PM
you cant just ban anyone the FBI ever investigates from owning a gun. theyve probably investigated millions of people whove never gone on to commit any crime.
Ya but when you are not allowed to board a plane you should not be able to buy a gun.
Presto
06-13-2016, 02:56 PM
More info on the killer:
Homicidal homophobe used to hang at Orlando gay hotspot, some regulars recall (http://www.cjad.com/WorldCP/Article.aspx?id=517501)
Alexander Panetta, The Canadian Press
ORLANDO, United States — Omar Mateen was more than just a homicidal, jihadist-inspired homophobe when he shot his way through an Orlando nightclub early Sunday morning, according to a couple of the establishment regulars.
He was also a repeat visitor.
A drag-dancing married couple described seeing Mateen as many as a dozen times at the gay-friendly nightclub where he'd later embark on the single worst gun massacre in modern American history.
Ty Smith and Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend.
Both professed shock at seeing his face on TV: "It's the same guy," said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin. "He's been going to this bar for at least three years."
They expressed incredulity at the story being told by Mateen's father in the wake of the shooting, that the gunman had once been scandalized during a visit to Miami by the sight of men kissing each other.
They say Mateen saw plenty of men kiss — and far closer to home than Miami.
"That's bullcrap, right there. No offence. That's straight-up crap. He's been around us," Smith said Monday in an interview at the GLBT Community Center of Central Florida.
"Some of those people did a little more than (kiss) outside the bar.... He was partying with the people who supposedly drove him to do this?"
Smith said the sometimes-visitor would show up with a buddy and let loose in a way he couldn't when he was closer to the family home in Port St. Lucie: "(He'd get) really, really drunk... He couldn't drink when he was at home — around his wife, or family. His father was really strict... He used to bitch about it."
Neither Smith nor Callen would speculate on the sex life of the man who called police from inside the club early Sunday to profess his allegiance to a Middle East militant leader as he gunned down at least 49 people in cold blood.
But they expressed doubt over the version conveyed by Mateen's Afghan-born father.
The Daily Beast also reported Monday that the gunman frequently lunched at a diner where the waiter was an openly gay high-school classmate and drag queen. That classmate, Samuel King, said Mateen was friendly; voiced no issues with gays; and might even have gone to see a drag show once or twice.
In separate interviews, both Callen and Smith described one incident that unnerved them.
They said they decided to keep their distance from Mateen after he exploded in anger at a joke told by one of their friends, possibly about religion: "He ended up pulling a knife," Callen said.
"He said if he ever messed with him again, you know how it'll turn out."
Now they're grappling with the shock of losing close friends. Pulse was like a second home to the couple after they moved from Indiana, and found new acceptance in Florida's more socially liberal climate.
Like several people interviewed Monday, they took exception to media descriptions of Pulse as a gay bar. Yes, they said, it has a predominantly gay clientele, but it catered to everyone.
Callen said he wished he had a place like that when he was an 18-year-old in Indiana. The place was so tolerant they even let him perform when he moved here four years ago and was far from ready for prime time.
"I was a hot mess," he said.
"And I grew to the queen that I am today... Straight people would come in. Couples. They would get up there and dance. They'd get birthday shots," he said.
"(It's a) place where you could come out. Just be you. To love who you are... That's what Pulse taught us."
The weekend's violent acts are spurring other signs of rapprochement between the city's communities.
A sign outside Orlando's LGBT centre warns that people should expect a security search of their bags upon entering. But visitors Monday overwhelmingly had acts of kindness on their mind.
Officials there said the loading area was filled with supplies people had dropped off, such as bottled water for families awaiting news about their loved ones.
One organizer said 200 people had responded to calls for grief counsellors. So many showed up that they had to create a database to keep track.
Rob Domenico said straight and gay people were lining up for hours to donate blood, in spite of U.S. restrictions on blood donations from men who have had sex with a man in the previous year.
"It's a tragedy," Domenico said.
"But it's wonderful to see a real community come together. Gay, straight... It's just a wonderful thing."
Hondaracer
06-13-2016, 03:48 PM
Its funny how mainstream media won't say anything about the bombing that took place in Syria the same day as this shooting. Which killed innocent children and families just before they broke their fast for the day.
i'm not going to go out of my way to pretend i feel anything for either event, however what happened in florida is far more relative to me personally than the events of a war-torn 3rd world country.
CharlesInCharge
06-13-2016, 06:35 PM
Audio interview
Muslim scholar Kevin Barrett: we are living among people that are too stupid to live, no critical thought left, shootings false flag.
PressTV- ?Blackwater mercs carried out Orlando op? (http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/13/470311/Orlando-shooting-enemies-of-Islam)
pretty detailed timeline of the final couple hours. watched the snapchat video mentioned in the article too, about 20 shots in steady succession, almost like a beat.. pretty chilling
RIP :(
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/06/12/it-was-just-complete-chaos-survivors-of-orlando-massacre-recall-desperate-struggle-to-stay-alive/?utm_term=.be35bf69c530
Bouncing Bettys
06-13-2016, 09:29 PM
Listening to CBC news and they said the gunman frequented the night club over the past year and was kicked out more than once for being to intoxicated. Perhaps a closeted homosexual?
They also said that it is believed possible that some victims may have been kill during the exchange of gunfire with police, but won't know for certain until autopsies are complete.
swiftshift
06-14-2016, 09:41 AM
Truly heartbreaking..
RIP to all involved..
ziggyx
06-14-2016, 01:31 PM
Orlando attack: Omar Mateen's second wife tells FBI she tried to talk gunman out of attack | Americas | News | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/orlando-attack-omar-mateens-second-wife-tells-fbi-she-tried-to-talk-gunman-out-of-attack-a7082061.html)
Apparently the shooter's second wife knew about the attack and did not tell the police. She dropped him off at Pulse night club so he could scope it out and was with him when he bought ammo. She says she tried to talk him out of the attack.
The article also mentioned that he visited Disney World the day before the amusement park was set to have its Gay Day event.
StylinRed
06-14-2016, 06:16 PM
Listening to CBC news and they said the gunman frequented the night club over the past year and was kicked out more than once for being to intoxicated. Perhaps a closeted homosexual?
They also said that it is believed possible that some victims may have been kill during the exchange of gunfire with police, but won't know for certain until autopsies are complete.
he frequented gay bars for years, and used apps like grindr, or so i hear from anderson cooper, and today his first wife, said that that was a part of his life he wanted kept private, and she didn't elaborate more on his homosexuality
Mancini
06-16-2016, 09:58 PM
There may be peaceful Muslims but there is no peaceful islam.
westopher
06-16-2016, 10:03 PM
you cant just ban anyone the FBI ever investigates from owning a gun. theyve probably investigated millions of people whove never gone on to commit any crime.
You could probably make it take longer than 10 minutes to get that gun though.........
Ulic Qel-Droma
06-17-2016, 08:12 AM
america is all about being Xtreme.
on one end you have the regressive left, on the other you have self/society hating crazies.
and everyone else in between.
StylinRed
06-17-2016, 02:00 PM
So this county in Alabama is refusing to lower their flags to half staff
Alabama county refuses to lower flags to honor Orlando victims - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/alabama-county-refuses-flags-honor-orlando-victims-article-1.2676317)
Also, the shooter apparently has a gay porn stash on his computer
dat_steve
06-17-2016, 02:21 PM
Also, the shooter apparently has a gay porn stash on his computer
tsch. rookiest of moves.
6o4__boi
06-17-2016, 02:51 PM
wouldn't expect anything else from some counties in those southern states
fsy82
06-17-2016, 03:48 PM
There may be peaceful Muslims but there is no peaceful islam.
The definition of the religion is Peace. Do your homework. All these fanatics that are giving a bad name to Islam don't even account for 1% of the billion following the religion
Bouncing Bettys
06-17-2016, 11:33 PM
Armoured Skeptic gives a Canadian viewpoint on the shooting which I also agree with.
http://youtu.be/w0iKCjgFCtU
It frustrates me to know end how the Regressive Left refuses to even mention an anti-gay religion in Islam as a motive.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2uzxl77.jpg
Ferra
06-18-2016, 08:26 AM
Orlando attack: Omar Mateen's second wife tells FBI she tried to talk gunman out of attack | Americas | News | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/orlando-attack-omar-mateens-second-wife-tells-fbi-she-tried-to-talk-gunman-out-of-attack-a7082061.html)
Apparently the shooter's second wife knew about the attack and did not tell the police. She dropped him off at Pulse night club so he could scope it out and was with him when he bought ammo. She says she tried to talk him out of the attack.
wow...I am surprised they didn't throw the book at her
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayerthorpe_tragedy
2 guys who drove a crazie dude that ambushed and killed four RCMP officer were charged, and pleaded guilty to a "lesser" charge of manslaughter and sentenced to 12 & 15 years in prison....despite them claiming they have no knowledge of the attack.
Yodamaster
06-18-2016, 07:53 PM
You could probably make it take longer than 10 minutes to get that gun though.........
It's not as clear cut as that.
Every time someone in the United States goes through the process of purchasing a firearm, the store has to submit a request for a federal background check in order to transfer the firearm, called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (or NICS). If a buyer has a record that would make him or her ineligible to purchase the firearm, the application is rejected and may be appealed after a set amount of time. (This is why calls for universal background checks in the United States are moot, because they already do check.) NICS in it's current form has rejected hundreds of thousands of requests based on findings that could endanger the public.
What the system down there actually needs is a revision to the NICS that accounts for serious incidents where the buyer was not tried/formally found guilty of a crime that would make him or her ineligible to purchase a firearm, such as being investigated by the FBI of all things. Such a finding would reject the application until it could be revisited manually by a human. That being said, there are times when an application is delayed because of such problems, but it can't catch every one all of the time.
Instead people are fighting for things that would either not make a difference, or have already been instituted but looked over because of a lack of knowledge (such as basic background checks). If people keep being exposed to the media spouting off about things they know little about, I could not seriously expect the public to be aware of something like the NICS anyway.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics
Getting your hands on a machine gun ("assault" rifle) is a completely different ball game, but seeing as one wasn't used here, it's not worth getting into.
Eastwood
06-18-2016, 08:03 PM
France has some of the toughest gun laws in Europe that would make Michael Moore hard and the Bataclan shooting still happened.
Although I believe assault weapons should be banned in the States its not the guns that are killing people, its the ideology.
This guy hated himself for being gay, then you mix Islam into the situation and its easy to connect the dots.
Manic!
06-20-2016, 12:55 AM
France has some of the toughest gun laws in Europe that would make Michael Moore hard and the Bataclan shooting still happened.
That was one shooting.
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Eastwood
06-20-2016, 01:24 AM
That was one shooting.
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Number of Injuries1 12,762
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Killed/Injured1 263
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Killed/Injured1 1,336
Mass Shooting2 145
Officer Involved Incident
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Home Invasion2 1,016
Defensive Use2 743
Accidental Shooting2 1,075
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Hey I think the US should have tougher gun laws. Theres more factors at play here than gun laws.
Boston Bombers and the airport explosion in Belgium last year that killed 75 people come to mind.
If terrorists want to attack people, they're going to find ways to kill people.
CharlesInCharge
06-20-2016, 04:26 AM
Hey I think the US should have tougher gun laws. Theres more factors at play here than gun laws.
Boston Bombers and the airport explosion in Belgium last year that killed 75 people come to mind.
If terrorists want to attack people, they're going to find ways to kill people.Were you here for the RevScene Boston bombing thread Eastwood?
I myself uncovered obvious photoshop doctoring of the alive brother having his backpack edited out.
Why would the government do that? because the backpack he was carrying was white... the one in the FBI photo that had the supposed bomb is pictured to be black.
There is a 2 hour documentary that exposes most of the tricky and staging involved.
You and the muslim hating crew here are either totally disconnected from the real world or are shills with an agenda.
SkinnyPupp
06-20-2016, 04:34 AM
I myself uncovered obvious photoshop doctoring of the alive brother having his backpack edited out.
No you didn't you idiot FailFish
CharlesInCharge
06-20-2016, 04:55 AM
Its documented unless you deleted my post!
Look you posted the bombs picture yourself, what colour is it?
http://www.revscene.net/forums/682994-bombing-explosions-boston-marathon-28.html#post8216712
are you seriously going to say the backpack on the ground is white?
https://marathontrial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/white.png
official FBI photos of the backpack bomb.
https://marathontrial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/martin1.png
https://marathontrial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/pack.png
edit; here is my post
http://www.revscene.net/forums/682994-bombing-explosions-boston-marathon-49.html#post8250477
This is one out of a hundred proven irregularities... The newer documentary that goes in-depth of all this isnt posted in the Boston thread.. it maybe in my anti-Zionist thread... but does one need to seriously reprove all the false flags... all the shills and loopy members here dont want to debate me one on one because they know they're shills and loopy. I dont see why mods and members here put with the constant spam that ruins threads.
westopher
06-20-2016, 08:12 AM
Hey I think the US should have tougher gun laws. Theres more factors at play here than gun laws.
Boston Bombers and the airport explosion in Belgium last year that killed 75 people come to mind.
If terrorists want to attack people, they're going to find ways to kill people.
Making gun laws stricter won't entirely stop the problem, it's not worth doing? All or nothing? No one thinks it will alleviate the problem.
Chemotherapy only works sometimes, its saved tons of lives. Adjusting gun laws will too. It doesn't need to be 100% solution.
Sid Vicious
06-20-2016, 08:40 AM
Its documented unless you deleted my post!
Look you posted the bombs picture yourself, what colour is it?
http://www.revscene.net/forums/682994-bombing-explosions-boston-marathon-28.html#post8216712
are you seriously going to say the backpack on the ground is white?
https://marathontrial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/white.png
official FBI photos of the backpack bomb.
https://marathontrial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/martin1.png
https://marathontrial.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/pack.png
edit; here is my post
http://www.revscene.net/forums/682994-bombing-explosions-boston-marathon-49.html#post8250477
This is one out of a hundred proven irregularities... The newer documentary that goes in-depth of all this isnt posted in the Boston thread.. it maybe in my anti-Zionist thread... but does one need to seriously reprove all the false flags... all the shills and loopy members here dont want to debate me one on one because they know they're shills and loopy. I dont see why mods and members here put with the constant spam that ruins threads.
http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/files/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-14-at-6.08.11-PM.png
Manic!
06-20-2016, 10:26 AM
There may be peaceful Muslims but there is no peaceful islam.
And Christianity is peaceful? There where Christians celebrating the Orlando killings.
murd0c
06-20-2016, 10:34 AM
plain and simple religion will be the end of this world the way we know it... I personally think its the one thing that's holding mankind back from truly working together and doing great things.
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