[7seven]

Playnow has decent payout 1.76x that Lucic will get the biggest FA deal out of Okposo, Eriksson, Backes and Boedker

https://www.playnow.com/sports/hockey/nhl-specials/Which-player-will-get-the-largest-contract-in-Free-Agency%3f-1019208.html

[dbaz]

if stamkos is staying bishop must be on his way out soon

[murd0c]

WTF

https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/status/748244992188002305

[jeedee]

WOW!

[6o4__boi]

http://i.giphy.com/ToMjGpjpXMFPshSYGLm.gif

i aint a fan of either teams but goddamn, i feel like i need a beer.

[Armind]

:seriously:

[murd0c]

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/748247182495612928

[highfive]

I guess we got a pretty good deal in the gudbranson trade. Larsson pretty comparable to him in a way right?

[pastarocket]

Subban traded for Shea Weber! :lawl:

http://www.tsn.ca/1.517918.1467230898

The Montreal Canadiens have traded all-star defeceman P.K. Subban to the Nashville Predators in exchange for Shea Weber, according to TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun.

Subban is heading into the third season of his eight-year, $72-million contract.

[6o4__boi]

lol Canadian teams got bent over and fucked hard today

[originalhypa]

dafuq?!

:seriously:

Weber is a great defensman. He was the foundation of the Predators and will be a great addition to the Habs. But Subban is still has potential to be a breakout player the likes of Bobby Orr.

Now that is a crazy deal.

[cdizzle_996]

I guess Edmonton is still holding out hope that Larsson will become Hedman

[6o4__boi]

https://twitter.com/_Josh479/status/748249010213814272

[Ch28]

I like this for Montreal, IMO Weber >>> Subban, Subban cannot be trusted to not make boneheaded plays in his own zone.

Weber's play has deteriorated quite a bit now. He's easily their 3rd best dman now.

[7seven]

Weber's play has deteriorated quite a bit now. He's easily their 3rd best dman now.

Yea Weber has slowed down a bit, but he is still a legit #1 dman and a way better all around defender except for offense than Subban. It is also clear that NHL coaches & GMs don't really trust Subban on the ice in defensive situations, ie... being the 7th dman on Olympic team rarely used, not being named to Canada's team this year and his use in defensive situations in Montreal. I've also heard a number of issues with him getting along with other players and its clear the Montreal front office and coaches got tired of his act. I think most fans overrate Subban because they like his personality.

Subban is younger and has a better contract for the team, but I would still personally take Weber over Subban.

https://twitter.com/CraigCustance/status/748248951695020032

[Liquid_o2]

Weber currently is a better overall player than Subban IMO. But he is also 3 years older and less dynamic.

I thought Subban was going to be a Hab for life. Stunning.

Overall, nobody can predict how this trade plays out until each player gets a couple seasons with their new team.

[Ch28]

Yea Weber has slowed down a bit, but he is still a legit #1 dman and a way better all around defender except for offense than Subban. It is also clear that NHL coaches & GMs don't really trust Subban on the ice in defensive situations, ie... being the 7th dman on Olympic team rarely used, not being named to Canada's team this year and his use in defensive situations in Montreal. I've also heard a number of issues with him getting along with other players.

I think most of the issues are that he likes to be the center of attention, so his teammates were getting tired of it. Having him paired up with a guy like Ekholm will be awesome for the Preds.

[Liquid_o2]

Oh and Subban will never be even close to Bobby Orr :speechless:

[cdizzle_996]

So with Stamkos at 8.5aav.. Must mean Dimjim will probably toss 7.5 at Eriksson

[Expresso]

So does this make the Gudbranson trade easier to swallow?

[dbaz]

anthony stewart claiming subban was traded because he was black

[murd0c]

So does this make the Gudbranson trade easier to swallow?

I can't believe I'm saying this but it makes it look like Jim Dim actually knew what he was doing for once. :badpokerface:

[murd0c]

Watch the Stamko's deal is a sign and trade to blow everyone out of the water lol

[UFO]

JB should have tried to slip our subban for shea weber. Maybe that's why he tried to get pk in the first place, pull a fast one on the preds. Or maybe he was trying to trade our weber for pk til bergevin read the fine print

[fliptuner]

Watch the Stamko's deal is a sign and trade to blow everyone out of the water lol

Agreed. Not counting the eggs until they're hatched.

[6o4__boi]

has a sign and trade ever happened in the nhl?

it's been a while since a draft and trade happened iirc but i don't recall a sign and trade ever happening

if that happens today...that would just break the internet

[originalhypa]

Watch the Stamko's deal is a sign and trade to blow everyone out of the water lol

While I would love to see him move to a real hockey market, his deal is sweet in Florida, only because it doesn't have a state income tax. The same deal in Toronto would cost him a fortune in income taxes and cost the team a fortune in foreign exchange.

So sad that one of our greatest Canadian hockey stars is toiling in fucking Tampa Bay.....

[68style]

Anyone else enjoying watching all their friends who are Habs fans lose their collective minds right now? :Popcorn

[Ch28]

anthony stewart claiming subban was traded because he was black

Wouldn't be surprised. French people aren't known to be the friendliest towards those that aren't French.

[highfive]

Watch the Stamko's deal is a sign and trade to blow everyone out of the water lol

^but stamkos signed for much less than what he would've gotten on the market? Why would tampa do that?

Yeah, the hall trade makes the possibility of trading Sbisa for someone possible...

[6o4__boi]

Anyone else enjoying watching all their friends who are Habs fans lose their collective minds right now? :Popcorn

https://www.reddit.com/r/Habs/comments/4qhl3z/canadiens_trade_pk_subban_to_nashville_for_shea/

similar reactions on my fb feed...lots of em really got caught by surprise

[Liquid_o2]

I just realized that Weber has 10 more years on his contract. Subbans contract runs until he is 33 I believe. Montreal really fucked up.

[UFO]

So sad that one of our greatest Canadian hockey stars is toiling in fucking Tampa Bay.....

Last 5 years they've missed the playoffs twice. But also been to scf once and 2 conference finals. And Tampa is a sick place to chill. Oh the toils of stamkos lol

[highfive]

Jonathan Toews @JonathanToews

Hey Webs good luck in Montreal thanks for leaving our division! #relief


hahaa aside from this contract, i think Montreal won the trade with Weber.

[Bouncing Bettys]

At least I won't be missing much on July 1st when I spend the Canada Day weekend on a secluded island with no cell service.

[Ch28]

I just realized that Weber has 10 more years on his contract. Subbans contract runs until he is 33 I believe. Montreal really fucked up.

Sekeres was saying on TEAM 1040 that Weber has to play until he's 39 or there will be a cap penalty to the team :drunk:

[subordinate]

Playnow has decent payout 1.76x that Lucic will get the biggest FA deal out of Okposo, Eriksson, Backes and Boedker

https://www.playnow.com/sports/hockey/nhl-specials/Which-player-will-get-the-largest-contract-in-Free-Agency%3f-1019208.html

Good play. Thanks.

[pastarocket]

This Subban and Weber trade does not help Montreal
In the long term to be a better team. People are 100 percent correct in saying that Weber has lost a step. You can argue that Roman Jossi is playing better than Shea. Weber's play is in decline. Nashville gets a dynamic younger player with a shorter term contract in PK.

[UFO]

Sekeres was saying on TEAM 1040 that Weber has to play until he's 39 or there will be a cap penalty to the team :drunk:

They could just trade his 'retired' rights to Arizona at that time

[Liquid_o2]

This Gudbranson trade isn't looking too bad anymore. McCann and a 2nd and 4th round pick? Could have been much worse.

[Verdasco]

While I would love to see him move to a real hockey market, his deal is sweet in Florida, only because it doesn't have a state income tax. The same deal in Toronto would cost him a fortune in income taxes and cost the team a fortune in foreign exchange.

So sad that one of our greatest Canadian hockey stars is toiling in fucking Tampa Bay.....

you kidding me? he has better chance in Tampa with Steve Yzerman than fucking toronto of all places

I say kudos for staying, hope he wins a cup

[Eastwood]

Unreal how stupid Edmonton is... Promise their fans change so they trade away a top 5 forward in the league.

[originalhypa]

you kidding me? he has better chance in Tampa with Steve Yzerman than fucking toronto of all places

Tampa has made it to the semi finals twice in the last 5 years, and made it to the finals once. Prior to 2011, they did nothing. Absolutely nothing!

A team with that much firepower that has that many chances and can't close the deal is a team that is lacking something very important. The good thing is that they aren't betting it all on one or two players, like Ovi and the Caps, or Toews/Kane in Chicago.

Don't discount Toronto either. I despise the Leafs, but if they're the team that's going to bring the cup back to Canada, then I'm all for it.


I say kudos for staying, hope he wins a cup

He's only 26, and is surrounded by a strong group of young players. I enjoyed watching the Lightning in the playoffs, but the question comes down to whether or not he is able to fill the role the team needs to win the cup.

Crosby showed this year why he is the best player on the ice. He was incredibly unselfish in his play, as every decision seemed to be what was best for the team. The Sharks could put someone on his ass, and he would still be able to make a play. Can Stamkos be that player?

His playoff history:
2013, 18 games played, 13 points, -5
2014, 4 games played, 4 points, +1
2015, 26 games played, 18 points, +2
2016, 1 game played, 1 point, -1

Maybe the Leafs are better off going for Tavares?

[HonestTea]

Playnow has decent payout 1.76x that Lucic will get the biggest FA deal out of Okposo, Eriksson, Backes and Boedker

https://www.playnow.com/sports/hockey/nhl-specials/Which-player-will-get-the-largest-contract-in-Free-Agency%3f-1019208.html

Bet's been removed I think? Can't find it

[slicrick]

Weber>Subban IMO

Weber's contract is going to hurt in the later years of it though. Not a huge PK fan but him and Josi could be a great pairing that should be very exciting to watch.

[originalhypa]

Last 5 years they've missed the playoffs twice. But also been to scf once and 2 conference finals. And Tampa is a sick place to chill. Oh the toils of stamkos lol

I think I'm just emotional about this.
I was hoping to see him in a Canadian jersey, preferably with a western team so I could watch him with, or against the Canucks.

I was secretly hoping Benning would make something happen for him.
I was openly hoping that Subban would join the Canucks to play with his little brother.
I am still hopeful that Lucic will sign with the Canucks.

Not much more to look forward to if that doesn't happen.
:okay:

[Armind]

We'll just snooze away on July 1st like usual lol. ResidentSleeper

[murd0c]

Unreal how stupid Edmonton is... Promise their fans change so they trade away a top 5 forward in the league.

They didn't a good younger dman and that's what they got. I don't think its a stupid move, yes Hall was one of Edmontons top players but with McJesus and the new Fin ontop of all the other firepower they have it was the smart move to make and they still have lots of assets to move.

[7seven]

Bet's been removed I think? Can't find it

They must have just removed it, I think subordinate got on the bet here too.


Moj was on the radio earlier saying from the players he has talked to they all described the Montreal dressing room as dysfunctional, with one player strongly suggesting it was because of Subban.

I've heard similar too from guys I know, except they used much harsher words lol

[pastarocket]

Hall was quoted by the TSN hockey panel as saying that he is a "proud person. This trade is an indictment on me as a player. I am very motivated as a player now"

-sounds like Hall wants to light up the Oilers the next time Jersey plays that team. :lawl:

[TjAlmeida]

We'll just snooze away on July 1st like usual lol. ResidentSleeper

Would rather the team sit back then over pay for lucic or eriksson..

Also, not 100% on this but seems if Weber retires before his contract ends the penalties go to Nashville not Montreal.

[Hondaracer]

May have been said already but the price paid for Guddy seems pretty good now.

[Ch28]

Hall was quoted by the TSN hockey panel as saying that he is a "proud person. This trade is an indictment on me as a player. I am very motivated as a player now"

-sounds like Hall wants to light up the Oilers the next time Jersey plays that team. :lawl:

Good.

This is the second time that Chiarelli has traded a high profile player for scraps. Hall is a top 5 LW in the NHL, and to only get Larsson back is an absolute ripoff

[murd0c]

Good.

This is the second time that Chiarelli has traded a high profile player for scraps. Hall is a top 5 LW in the NHL, and to only get Larsson back is an absolute ripoff

the funny part about that is both of the players were drafted 1 and 2 the same year and it was the Taylor vs Tyler debate of who should of went first overall

[Liquid_o2]

Obviously Chiarelli believes neither should have been.

[Spoon]

That $10 Million donation to Montreal Children's Hospital. :okay:
:joy:

[pastarocket]

-good article about the Subban, Weber trade and a comparison of both players.
:thumbsup:

If you use the analytics chart in the article to compare Subban's performance with Weber's play, PK is clearly the better player.

Why the P.K. Subban trade may be the worst in Canadiens history - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/p-k-subban-trade-may-worst-canadiens-history/)

Weber paired with Andrei Markov is a disastrous d-men pairing. :lawl:

[subordinate]

That $10 Million donation to Montreal Children's Hospital. :okay:
:joy:

Wonder if he regrets that lol. :drunk:

[Liquid_o2]

Someone edited Marc Bergiven's Wiki page.

"Marc Bergevin is a retired Canadian professional hockey defenceman and soon to be ex-general manager of the Montreal Canadiens of the National Hockey League."

[Hondaracer]

Montreal had a guy in PK who embraced the community, learned and spoke good French, and wanted to be a long time hab and was on his way to be one of the all-times of the modern era

They trade that for a guy who doesn't know French, who is a "small town guy" and shrinks/shys away from the lime light.

He may have been bad in the locker room but habs management/coaching seem to be out to lunch

[pastarocket]

If the Habs start next season on a losing note, Bergevin and coach Therrien's jobs are on the line. If this storied franchise wants to be a contender again, these two guys need to be let go. :gtfo:

[JesseBlue]

i like both of them to stay in montreal, thank you very much

[Ch28]

Habs management has always been out to lunch. Their preferential treatment and want for French players/coaches over better non-French equivalents has been going on forever.

[7seven]

more info on the off ice issues with Subban, issues with teammates, management and not acting professionally Marinaro: Habs fans livid over Subban trade - Audio - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/marinaro-habs-fans-livid-over-subban-trade-1.518004)

The real winner here is the NHL with the number of Oilers and Canadiens fans that will now need to get new jerseys with Subban and Hall gone lol

[Eastwood]

The season hasn't even started and Canadian teams are already worse off... Ship PK out of Canada... Ship Hall out of Canada... What the FUCK!

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/arjunbasu/status/748246268930056192

[Obsideon]

Weird, I guess I'm the minority. I actually feel that this PK/Shea trade isn't as bad as everyone keeps saying it is.
The way the Habs community is reacting it almost sounds like they got Yannick Weber instead.

PK Subban is a great defenseman but he frequently makes questionable plays in the defensive zone. He's always trying to go for the big goal or highlight play. There's a reason Team Canada left him off the team. His $9 million extension kicks in next year paying him $1.2m MORE than Weber per year cap.

Shea is bonafide stud. He's 3 years older but I feel that his physical size is an advantage for longevity as he doesn't rely on explosive speed or athleticism to be good. Hits like a mack truck, shies from the spotlight yet still lead the league in goals.

[Jmac]

It's not a bad trade. Oh noes, we got the biggest, baddest dman in the league who's an annual Norris finalist.

[punkwax]

^ I'm with you both.

Analytics aren't everything. Lose an alleged diva and bring in a character pro like Weber for less = win IMO. It could be considered addition by subtraction and they're gaining one hell of a player to boot.

The guy is so hard to play against that Toews publicly announced he's happy that Shea is out of the division. That says a lot if you ask me.

[Obsideon]

That's not even including the "off-ice" points.
Shea is a consummate professional and true leader. Brought his team to within 1 win of the WCF in a small market team.
Meanwhile in Montreal...
Anyways, gonna be weird seeing them in different jersey colours that's for sure.

[pastarocket]

Gudbranson arrives in Vancouver. He said that Lu spoke to him quite a bit about our beautiful city. :considered:

https://youtu.be/Ul_EoraHvNY

[mickz]

I wish more GMs did the offer sheet route ie JB I mean yah we would lose some picks but if that means picking up a stud dman or forward I am all for it!

Offer sheets are one of the worst ways to get players. You need to overpay otherwise the original team will match (ex. Dustin Penner).

Chiarelli has now traded the top 2 picks from the 2010 draft, Hall and Seguin

The first 6 players in that draft have been traded as well!

Wow. So Oilers ended up trading the player that they shouldn't have gotten rid of. Hall was probably their best forward aside from McDavid. RNH should have been shipped off instead.

I guess with Puljujarvi coming in, they felt that a winger was expendable.

Hall yielded them the biggest return. RNH and the rest of the available forwards aren't worth much right now.

[CRS]

Offer sheets are one of the worst ways to get players. You need to overpay otherwise the original team will match (ex. Dustin Penner).

Not if they're up against a cap and are strapped in that capacity.

[Devastator]

Tampa Bay is a perfect example of potentially getting offer sheets on their players. With stammer signed to a big contract it'll be hard for them re-sign bishop, hedman, Johnson, kucherov, other up and coming young players.

[OGCStrike]

https://twitter.com/slowhnds/status/748277842576707584
basically today in a nutshell :joy:

[dbaz]

Would rather the team sit back then over pay for lucic or eriksson..

Also, not 100% on this but seems if Weber retires before his contract ends the penalties go to Nashville not Montreal.

nsh didnt retain any cap so they wont face penalties, mtl only will suffer from that

[UFO]

Not much more to look forward to if that doesn't happen.
:okay:

Agree, not much to look forward to. I hope they stay pat in UFA. You don't build a winning team by overpaying has-beens looking to cash in on a couple of good seasons. You build winners through the draft and development of young players who are cheap, and veteran players who play the game the right way and preferably easy on the pocket book as well.

Hall was quoted by the TSN hockey panel as saying that he is a "proud person. This trade is an indictment on me as a player. I am very motivated as a player now"

Yeah that pride and motivation really showed up last year. And the year before that. And the year before that. Not saying he won't light it up next year, bc being in Edmonton can kind of do that to somebody.

[Jmac]

nsh didnt retain any cap so they wont face penalties, mtl only will suffer from that
That's not how it works.

Basically, it's based on money paid vs. cap hit accrued over the period the player was with the team.

Weber played 4 seasons in Nashville under the current contract. He was paid $14M each year for a total of $56M. His AAV was $7.857143M per season, so $31.428572M in total. The difference is $24.571428M. This number would be divided by the number of years remaining on his contract when he officially retires (that means actually signing the retirement papers with the NHL and NHLPA, not just saying he's retiring to go play in Europe).

Unless Weber retires in the next 3 years, Montreal won't face any recapture penalty as he only get paid more than his cap hit for this season and next.

[dbaz]

^ thats how it was reported by tsn

[UFO]

PK Subban is a great defenseman but he frequently makes questionable plays in the defensive zone.


I don't see how that makes any sense. Great defensemen don't make questionable plays in their own end. Somebody life Shea Weber fits the bill as a great defenseman

Its why I've had issues with some of the Norris winners of late, namely Subban and Karlsson. Yeah they put up lots of points and are always a threat to score when they're on the ice. But the Norris isn't about that, it's for the best defenseman.

[UFO]

That's not how it works.

I believe cap recapture rule hits the team that benefited most from the actual salary paid vs caphit on the heavily front loaded contracts, in this case Nashville. So Montreal may actually come out ahead in this case here if Weber quits early. I recall Weber's contract had some crazy signing bonus in the first 2 years so that may affect the rules

[Jmac]

^ thats how it was reported by tsn
CBA > TSN

[jeedee]

The season hasn't even started and Canadian teams are already worse off... Ship PK out of Canada... Ship Hall out of Canada... What the FUCK!

Did they ship out their Canadian citizenship too? Jeez calm down dude :lol

[Hondaracer]

I don't see how that makes any sense. Great defensemen don't make questionable plays in their own end. Somebody life Shea Weber fits the bill as a great defenseman

Its why I've had issues with some of the Norris winners of late, namely Subban and Karlsson. Yeah they put up lots of points and are always a threat to score when they're on the ice. But the Norris isn't about that, it's for the best defenseman.

Norris has been about points for the last like 10+ years.

Thing with PK is you take the good with the bad, offensive defenseman will be a liability from time to time. You can't be a Lidstrom at the same time as being a Subban.

[mickz]

Not if they're up against a cap and are strapped in that capacity.

That has never happened in the cap era. If the original team wants to match, they'll ship out other players to make it happen.

[Jmac]

You can go up to 10% over the salary cap during the offseason. Need to be compliant before the season starts, though.

[UFO]

Norris has been about points for the last like 10+ years.

Thing with PK is you take the good with the bad, offensive defenseman will be a liability from time to time. You can't be a Lidstrom at the same time as being a Subban.

Well seeing as though Lidstrom has won the Norris 4 of the past 10 years, and 7 of the last 15, you kind of can. I get points look good, but you can't look THAT bad in your own end and still be considered Norris worthy, IMO. It would be like saying Sbisa is Norris caliber if he can put up 65pts this season...

[6thGear.]

Watching lidstrom play was amazing. No dman has been close to how he controlled play even if it didn't result in a goal.

[originalhypa]

You don't build a winning team by overpaying has-beens looking to cash in on a couple of good seasons.

Hahahaha!
Are you kidding me?

The 2016 Stanley Cup winning Penguins had a bunch of has-beens on their roster, the likes of Bonino, Kessel, Cullen, Lovejoy, Cole. Without those guys, it wouldn't have happened.

Detroit in 2008 with Yzerman, Larionov, Fedorov, Shanahan, and Lidstrom, a team full of Russian players that were old, and had been written off by other teams.

The 2006 cup winning Hurricanes had the likes of Andreychuk, Brind' Amour, Mark Recchi, Doug Weight, Bret Hedican, and Glen Wesley.

I could go back to the first days of the cup, and you'll find that it's not your top players who win it all. It's the overall team depth that wins a cup.

So forgive me for hoping that the Canucks can snag some has-been, like Lucic. A local guy who has already won a cup.



I totally agree with you that Shea Weber is an amazing defenseman. I didn't even know he was on the block, and damn, would he have made a great Canuck.

[Jmac]

You can go up to 10% over the salary cap during the offseason. Need to be compliant before the season starts, though.
As per usual, someone fails with no retort.

What about my post was failworthy? Too true?
(B) Nevertheless, in order to ensure that Clubs may have sufficient time and flexibility to plan their rosters during the off-season, the Upper Limit shall be temporarily raised by ten (10) percent to permit Clubs additional flexibility with their Averaged Club Salaries during the period from July 1 until and including the last day of Training Camp. On the day following the last day of Training Camp, the Upper Limit shall again be lowered to the level as calculated in Section 50.5(b), and all Clubs must once again be in compliance with the Upper Limit from the day following the last day of Training Camp until and including June 30.

[Spoon]

I totally agree with you that Shea Weber is an amazing defenseman. I didn't even know he was on the block, and damn, would he have made a great Canuck.

Doubt their GM even gave us a call. What would we even have to offer? :badpokerface:

[Ch28]

Doubt their GM even gave us a call. What would we even have to offer? :badpokerface:

Botchford said we offered Tanev + 5th overall pick for Subban

[jeedee]

Hahahaha!
Are you kidding me?

The 2016 Stanley Cup winning Penguins had a bunch of has-beens on their roster, the likes of Bonino, Kessel, Cullen, Lovejoy, Cole. Without those guys, it wouldn't have happened.

Detroit in 2008 with Yzerman, Larionov, Fedorov, Shanahan, and Lidstrom, a team full of Russian players that were old, and had been written off by other teams.

The 2006 cup winning Hurricanes had the likes of Andreychuk, Brind' Amour, Mark Recchi, Doug Weight, Bret Hedican, and Glen Wesley.

I think UFO meant cup winning teams don't overpay for free agents. Did any of those teams overpay for those players in free agency?

[originalhypa]

I think UFO meant cup winning teams don't overpay for free agents. Did any of those teams overpay for those players in free agency?

Over paying is all based on your perspective. Was Kessel over paid? If they didn't win the cup, then yes. Are Kane and Toews overpaid? Not when they're winning the cup.

I'm not talking about bringing in Derek Roy for a 4 month Vancouver vacation. But when it comes to filling holes in one's roster, it's like the real estate market.

lots of inventory, equals low prices. A good example is the goalie market these days. But for a top defenseman?

Man, that's like waterfront property. You're going to pay out the ass to fill that hole.

[dbaz]

Botchford said we offered Tanev + 5th overall pick for Subban
botchford also claimed gaborik was signing here as a ufa because he bought a house in vancouver. he goes on hfboards for info then says its from his connections. guys a hack

[elite_baller46]

what are you guys talking about? I serouisly don't understand

[Gumby]

Man, that's like waterfront property. You're going to pay out the ass to fill that hole.
I don't like seeing the words "ass", "fill", and "hole" in the same sentence. :lol

[Ch28]

Plekanec has gone on record to say that PK wasn't a problem in the dressing room and that they all texted him yesterday to wish him luck.

Montreal being lit up right now. There's legitimately no real reason to trade him

[highfive]

Hahahaha!
Are you kidding me?

The 2016 Stanley Cup winning Penguins had a bunch of has-beens on their roster, the likes of Bonino, Kessel, Cullen, Lovejoy, Cole. Without those guys, it wouldn't have happened.

Detroit in 2008 with Yzerman, Larionov, Fedorov, Shanahan, and Lidstrom, a team full of Russian players that were old, and had been written off by other teams.

The 2006 cup winning Hurricanes had the likes of Andreychuk, Brind' Amour, Mark Recchi, Doug Weight, Bret Hedican, and Glen Wesley.

I could go back to the first days of the cup, and you'll find that it's not your top players who win it all. It's the overall team depth that wins a cup.

So forgive me for hoping that the Canucks can snag some has-been, like Lucic. A local guy who has already won a cup.



I totally agree with you that Shea Weber is an amazing defenseman. I didn't even know he was on the block, and damn, would he have made a great Canuck.

Fedorov wasn't playing for the Wings in 2008. Shanahan was playing for the devils that season as well. WTF are you talking about?

To win the cup, the teams needs to be deep enough to not only grind through 82 games season but 4 rounds of playoffs match up. You need some puck luck and you need to avoid injuries. SJ was rolling in the west until the finals (similar to the Canucks in 2011). They basically stopped playing the way they have in the finals. I'm not sure if it's injuries or what but the team who pushes it to the next level along with some luck will win it all.

In the salary cap era, it's even harder to win because you can't just sign all the good players, you need to build your depth with cheap young players. The only way to get that is through the draft or signing college free agents / overseas players.

There's never really a one way to build a team, you need skill, grit, and speed. Can't just rely on one. As much as the Bruins won it with grit, they had a lot of speed as well.

That's why I never saw anything in analytics. Stats work on large amount of information/data. You can't analyze a players play on a 7 games series, it's too short of a time frame to base your decision around. That's why character players are still paid big dollars, they bring out their A game when it matters.


BTW, Lebrun tweeted we are out of the Lucic considerations.

[Jmac]

If it's the rumoured 7-year, $42M+ contract that's been rumoured to be the starting point on Lucic, I'd say we dodged a bullet there.

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/mattsekeres/status/748637450147241990

https://twitter.com/mattsekeres/status/748645824448462848

[EmperorIS]

GO CANUCKS GO

[murd0c]

I have a feeling Detroit is going to get Eriksson

[6o4__boi]

Fuckin rights.
Lol at the team that'll sign him to 7x7

[Ch28]

"Patrick from Illinois" calls in to Hockey Central at Noon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD-Zyfa3foU

[Jmac]

Ladd's going to get overpaid like crazy, IMO. He took a step back last year and he's never really been a top-tier forward, but he's probably going to get paid like one on this contract (and, on the wrong side of 30, that's concerning).

Brouwer would be an easier pill to swallow as I doubt he gets the same term and AAV as Ladd plus Brouwer is more versatile even if his offensive game isn't as good.

I don't really see the appeal of Helm. I like his speed and tenacity on the forecheck, but where does he fit? We already have Henrik, Sutter, and Horvat down the middle. Do we shell out $4M with term for a 3rd line centre to play on the 4th line?

[Ch28]

People like Helm because he's versatile like Hansen and can slot in anywhere.

Ladd is definitely going to be overpaid. He's a good player but he's just a supplementary piece that will be demanding top dollar.

[Hondaracer]

Don't sign any of em

Problem with UFA's like these is that you have to give them term. I wouldn't want any of them for more than 3

[dbaz]

if Benning misses on lucic and eriksson, what stupid move will aquilini request to be made to "better" the team?

[Devastator]

If the Canucks are told to spend the money then I only want them to go after Okposo and that's it.

[Mike Oxbig]

Vanek
Bouwer
Boedker
Sam Gagner

Okposo if canucks willing to throw money at him. He will be a point per game player with sedins 40 goal scorer too

[Hondaracer]

Okposo is a player you could use down the road in 5-6 and could still be significantly contributing at that point, the rest, who knows

[dbaz]

okoposo is already looking for 7/49+. i was thinking more of stupid trades

[Jmac]

Don't sign any of em

Problem with UFA's like these is that you have to give them term. I wouldn't want any of them for more than 3
Not all UFAs.

Using our 2011 cup run team as an example, we picked up Samuelsson, Torres, Malhotra, and Hamhuis who were all major contributors to that team and only Malhotra was arguably overpaid (at least when he was first signed). Only Hamhuis got term.

The GM just has to be smart about it. It's easy to make stupid decisions during free agent frenzy.

[Mike Oxbig]

Vanek has connection with JB. Maybe we can sign him for cheap since he just got bought out.

[Hondaracer]

Not all UFAs.

Using our 2011 cup run team as an example, we picked up Samuelsson, Torres, Malhotra, and Hamhuis who were all major contributors to that team and only Malhotra was arguably overpaid (at least when he was first signed). Only Hamhuis got term.

The GM just has to be smart about it. It's easy to make stupid decisions during free agent frenzy.

Was pointing moreso towards this years crop of UFA's because they are all kind of B list players, but there aren't too many of them so most likely the top 5 will all be getting overpaid

[XplicitLuder]

hope we find someone decent who will take 10m for 2 years lol really showed us how theyll do. That way if they want term you can renegotiate after

[Expresso]

If you don't give $ and term, someone else undoubtedly will.

[Devastator]

Report: Panthers, Ekblad agree on 8-year, $60M extension
Josh Gold-Smith Jun 30, 2016 8:32 PM
The Florida Panthers and star defenseman Aaron Ekblad have agreed on an eight-year, $60-million contract extension, George Richards of the Miami Herald reports.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Jmac]

That's a huge contract for a guy who's only 20. Wow

[Not really racist!]

A few years ago (well maybe 4+) only the top 5 defenseman got paid that much

Not saying he's not on his way there tho...

Lindholm's agent probably happy af right now since Seth only got 5.4m over 6 yrs

[6o4__boi]

Unconfirmed rumours saying Ericsson will sign with the Red Wings.

Seems pretty likely imo.

Lol bracing for Canucks throwing stupid money around tmr

[Armind]

Twas the night before Christmas in July..

[murd0c]

Unconfirmed rumours saying Ericsson will sign with the Red Wings.

Seems pretty likely imo.

Lol bracing for Canucks throwing stupid money around tmr

I called that shit earlier today

[UFO]

Hahahaha!
Are you kidding me?


The number of UFAs signed to overpaid contracts come Jul.1 easily out number the ones who sign for reasonable ones both in dollars and term. Esp in this day and age, term is the big issue. Lucic, Erikson, Ladd, brouwer, etc, I wouldn't mind any of the big names this year at what they are asking for 2-3 years. 6-7 years hell no.

If our canucks were a lucic away from having a legit shot at the cup, then sure throw him the money and term and hope for some puck luck come playoff time. As is, we are nowhere close. Signing a marquee UFA to big money and term now is rather meaningless. They may help you just make the playoffs, then you're stuck on luck really to get out the first round and it's really just a war on attrition there at that point. Then you have 6 more years of this to wade through

I absolutely agree that you need a well rounded deep team to win the cup. I've always believed its your 3rd and 4th lines that win your cup, the top dogs are important yes but they can only play so many minutes. If your bottom 6 is better than the other team's bottom 6, you're in happy town. You don't usually get these guys by making a big splash and overpaying ($ or term) on Jul.1

[CRS]

That has never happened in the cap era. If the original team wants to match, they'll ship out other players to make it happen.

Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it won't.

That's like saying "there is no way the top 6 picks in the 2010 NHL draft will be traded away to other teams, it's never happened before". Look at where we are today.

[dbaz]

news1130 reporting canucks have been keeping in contact with Sam Gagner, Josh jooris, Corban knight.

more Weisbrod calgary leftovers..
tank time?

[sonick]

Who dafuq is Corban Knight? Sounds like the name of a made up rapper.

[Ch28]

I called that shit earlier today

It only makes sense since they cleared Datsyuk's contract.

[Jmac]

Just because something hasn't happened before doesn't mean it won't.

That's like saying "there is no way the top 6 picks in the 2010 NHL draft will be traded away to other teams, it's never happened before". Look at where we are today.
Could be top 7. Jeff Skinner has been in trade rumours for years. Burmistrov wouldn't be a shock, either.

Campbell (11) just got traded and Gormley (13) has been traded a couple of times.

Somehow the 2 first rounders drafted out of the KHL (Tarasenko and Kuznetsov) are probably the safest bets to remain with their respective teams for the next 5 years. Conventional wisdom at the time was that the Russians were high-risk picks because of the KHL.

[Jmac]

Who dafuq is Corban Knight? Sounds like the name of a made up rapper.
26-year-old AHLer from Oliver.

Should never be a July 1 signing. More like a camp invite and sign to a 1-year, 2-way deal during camp if the coach likes him.

[Jmac]

news1130 reporting canucks have been keeping in contact with Sam Gagner, Josh jooris, Corban knight.

more Weisbrod calgary leftovers..
tank time?
I have no idea why Gagner is garnering any interest. He's 27 and coming off 2 disastrous stints in Philadelphia and Arizona. He's struggled at wing, there's no room for him at centre. Unless it's for the AHL (which I would have no idea why Gagner would go for that on July 1).

These salvage projects almost never work out.

Jooris is an okay 4th liner I guess. Would rather make that decision in training camp than on July 1, though.

[murd0c]

Well it looks like a number of people are reporting Eriksson is going to be signed here.

[Jmac]

Helm re-signs with Detroit for 5x$3.85M

[CRS]

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/748894222053470208

[bossha]

Would be very happy if we sign just eriksson

[Jmac]

https://media.giphy.com/media/YPIrsRqqO7oB2/giphy.gif

[Jmac]

Lucic signs with Edmonton.

[Jmac]

Reimer 5x$3.4M in Florida
Ladd 7x$5.5M in Brooklyn
Perron 2x$3.75M in St. Louis

[domco]

https://twitter.com/sportsnetirf/status/748909241713369089

[bossha]

Eriksson signs for 6 yrs not sure about $$

[Jmac]

Eriksson signs for 6 yrs not sure about $$
Rumours before 9 were 6x$6M

[Jmac]

Lucic confirmed 7 x $6M

[Jmac]

Nielsen to Detroit, 6 years x $5.25M

[Jmac]

Rumours before 9 were 6x$6M
Dreger confirmed $6M AAV on TSN

[murd0c]

yup 6x6 for Ericsson, I'm happy about that move.

[Jmac]

Backes to BOS

[Renthal]

its a frenzy!

[Jmac]

Backes 5 x $6M

[Infiniti]

Is Okoposo to the Sabres a done deal?

[Jmac]

Okposo 7 x $6M to BUF
Campbell to CHI

[murd0c]

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/748914075522830336

[Jmac]

Brouwer 4 x $4.5M to CGY

[Infiniti]

...

[murd0c]

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/748914889821982720

[Jmac]

Staal 3 x $3.5M to MIN

[slicrick]

Ladd for 7 years

http://www.revscene.net/forums/customavatars/avatar3023_19.gif

[SumAznGuy]

Is Okoposo to the Sabres a done deal?

Yes, 7 X $6M

[murd0c]

now I want the Canucks to sit back and not overpay

[SumAznGuy]

Lovejoy to NJD. Now we know who the winner is in the Hall/Larsen trade.

[Ikkaku]

What are you talking about

https://twitter.com/NEWS1130Sports/status/748915399165677568

:troll:

[pastarocket]

Eriksson is gonna get a tonne of points with the Sedins. -an underrated offensive winger. The term and annual salary of the contract are market value.

-not bad Dim Jim. :troll:

[punkwax]

Don't know why but I get annoyed whenever Pierre Maguire gets up and talks to Bob Mackenzie while it's Bob's TV time... year after year he does it SwiftRage

[pastarocket]

Don't know why but I get annoyed whenever Pierre Maguire gets up and talks to Bob Mackenzie while it's Bob's TV time... year after year he does it SwiftRage

I notice that Jeff O'Neill on the free agent frenzy panel looks annoyed everytime
Maguire opens his mouth to try to say something intelligent about free agent signings or trades. :lawl:

[Tim Budong]

Eriksson is gonna get a tonne of points with the Sedins. -an underrated offensive winger. The term and annual salary of the contract are market value.

-not bad Dim Jim. :troll:

its not 2014

but sure!

sedins+eriksson at the wjc2014 tourney was fucking unreal

[Gh0stRider]

@CraigCustance: Dan Hamhuis closing in on a deal. He may be next to go.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

[6o4__boi]

What does it mean when more than half the contract is signing bonus?

Does that affect cap hit?

[cliffhanger33]

rumours are saying hamhuis to stars

[SumAznGuy]

rumours are saying hamhuis to stars

If this is true, good job JB, TL and the Aquaman.
They could have gotten a bag of pucks for Hammer at the trade deadline and now they get nothing.

[cdizzle_996]

I wouldn't mind the Canucks having a look at Yakupov, kinda a risk/reward at 2.5.

[dbaz]

would be funny if hamhuis took the deal back to canucks for last minute chance and aqua demands him to be signed just cuz it's Gaglardi and the stars

[Mike Oxbig]

I wouldn't mind the Canucks having a look at Yakupov, kinda a risk/reward at 2.5.

For what doe? Shouldve traded his rights + something for hamhuis

[dbaz]

Hedman re-signs 8yr 7.875mil

[604778]

Yannick weber to NSH.

[pastarocket]

Talk about making it rain on free agent frenzy day.

335 million dollars worth of player signings in the first hour of this frenzy. :lawl:

[Not really racist!]

Yzerman for GM of the year

[Renthal]

any other decent players you guys think the nucks should take a run at?
colbourne, connolly, schultz?

[dbaz]

any other decent players you guys think the nucks should take a run at?
colbourne, connolly, schultz?

vanek or hudler at 3 or less only tho. versteeg as well

[murd0c]

2mill 1 year deal for Vanek would be nice

[jeedee]

Yannick weber to NSH.

LMAO the irony

[Renthal]

radulov to mtl!

1 year 5.75

[Devastator]

Yannick weber to NSH.

Can someone please make a meme with "We got Weber #6 back!" Perfect troll to Nashville fans...lol

[akira112]

Fuck, hamhuis to dalllas

[Devastator]

If this is true, good job JB, TL and the Aquaman.
They could have gotten a bag of pucks for Hammer at the trade deadline and now they get nothing.

It's unfair to throw TL and JB under the bus for a deal which I think most people thought was fair. It's aquaman jumping in and asking for more just cause he has beef with Galardi .

[dbaz]

lol aquilini tries to bend over Dallas himself because of Gaglardi. watches hamhuis go there for free today. maybe he will learn a bit

[Eastwood]

Hopefully no NTC for Erikson... We already have enough depreciating assets with NTC's on this team.

[XplicitLuder]

Hopefully no NTC for Erikson... We already have enough depreciating assets with NTC's on this team.

Prolly a NTC first 3-4 years and remaining a modified NTC. Seems to be a thing nowadays

[murd0c]

Kris Russell rumoured to be signing with the Canucks.... :badpokerface:

[dbaz]

would mean sbisa being traded. will take it

or tanev/edler :(

[murd0c]

Sibs won't be traded but I'm ok with Tanev being traded

[CRS]

Kris Russell rumoured to be signing with the Canucks.... :badpokerface:

I wouldn't mind this.

[murd0c]

all depends on the price, I'm sure he will be asking for 4.5-5 over 4-5 years. If we could get him for 3.5 a year for 4 years I would be more then ok with it

[6o4__boi]

Kris Russell is garbage.
I'd rather have Hammer back than Russell who is pretty much another Bartkowski minus a funny mom

[murd0c]

AHL deal

https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/748941886187040770

[dbaz]

canucks signed d Chad billens too.
probably some sort of deal coming
too many ahl dmen

[Tegra_Devil]

Canucks are starting to look like the Abbotsford heat with all these throw-away flames lol

[dbaz]

Vasilevsky re-signed 3years 3.5/4.5mil? pee bishops gotta be on the move after all these deals tbay has done

[cliffhanger33]

Canucks Now ‏@CanucksNow 2m2 minutes ago
As per News 1130, Kris Russel's agent says the #Canucks are not in the mix to sign his client. Sportsnet reported the opposite.

[fliptuner]

Rip Hammer

[Mike Oxbig]

6 year deal for erikson means exntesions for sedins?

[murd0c]

6 year deal for erikson means exntesions for sedins?

That has nothing to do with what will happen win the sedins once their contract is up

[CRS]

6 year deal for erikson means exntesions for sedins?

I would be livid if the Sedins are re-signed.

They may not be our top line in the future but they deserve to stay with the organization.

[bobbinka]

if hammer's deal with DAL is $3.75/year for 2 years, imagine what he would've been willing to take to stay... he would've been cheaper than Sbisa

[Mike Oxbig]

hammer would still be good as 5th and 6th d to mentor the young guys for some defensive IQ

fucking canucks.......

[dbaz]

chance for sedins to sign cheap 1 or 2 years deals after but I don't see them taking too much. they know it would hurt the team too much

[6o4__boi]

Lol Canucks last offer to Russell apparently a $25M contract.


Thank god they're out.
What the actual fuck is Benning smoking offering that much for a shitty dman.

[murd0c]

good he signed at least

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/748957827037687808

[chouchou]

LOL.. Hammer away for nothing. Shouldn't be surprised......

[pastarocket]

LOL.. Hammer away for nothing. Shouldn't be surprised......

-another lesson for a meddling owner like Aquaman.

Only a fool would try to squeeze the Dallas Stars more out of a Hamhuis trade because of a personal vendetta against the owner. :facepalm:

[dbaz]

vanek 2.6mil det

[Ch28]

What does it mean when more than half the contract is signing bonus?

Does that affect cap hit?

Signing bonuses aren't affected by contract buyouts. Think of it as guaranteed money.

Good explanation here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/mirtle-david-clarkson-and-his-buyout-proof-contract/article17783243/

[dbaz]

incase there's a lockout in 2020 or 2021 the players still get paid the signing bonus. which is why the longterm deals all have high signing bonuses

also canucks still haven't scheduled a press conference which means they are still chasing

[Mike Oxbig]

vanek 2.6mil det

dont we need another top 6 LW? or is Baertschi ready to step up ?

[Ch28]

Stempniak, Vanek, and Hamhuis signings are the best money ball ones today.

[dbaz]

sharks boeser 4yr 4mil

[tonyzoomzoom]

Boedker ;)

[iwantaskyline]

Why do any of you idiots want Hammer back? Our blue line needs to be younger and faster, signing him means taking up a roster spot from one our young guys.

[elite_baller46]

by signing these players and shit. it wont do a difference. I bet the canucks will be on the bottom of the league for years to come. that's just my own opinion

[dbaz]

Boedker ;)

yep phone autocorrects to boeser lol

[AzNightmare]

yep phone autocorrects to boeser lol

:seriously:

lol, for a second there, I thought Sharks somehow took Boeser from us.
And it's 4 year , 16 mil contract.

[Ch28]

sharks boeser 4yr 4mil

$1 mill a year contract. What a deal!

[dbaz]

Apparently Benning was trying to acquire a forward by trade today

[6o4__boi]

Lol word was he was shopping Sbisa's contract around
:lawl:

[OGCStrike]

evander kane for sbisa..
since kane has off ice issues like kassian, buffalo has to include a 5th round pick as well... :drunk:

jks benning will never be able to pull off a robbery of a trade like that since hes the one always getting burned by other gms in the league:okay:

[Jmac]

Sbisa plays like hot garbage, signs him to 3-year, $10.8M extension.

Sbisa improves to a level above hot garbage, tries to trade him.

[Mike Oxbig]

wouldnt mind sbisa for e.kane but whos gonna step up in the locker room to throw his track suit in the shower?

e.kane is vegas bound for expansion lol

[Hondaracer]

team remains completely unappealing to me... i know it's not gonna change over night but Erickson aint getting me into Rogers arena, really the only reason i'll be going to games is to watch the D core as sad as that sounds

Once Demko is in net as well i will be more intrigued but right now we done son

referance Mike Oxbig avatar lol

[highfive]

As bad as Sbisa is in doing stupid ass passes like edler does sometimes, he still hits people. Edler is the gentle giant who doesn't hit anymore.

[Jmac]

No but Edler and Tanev are a very effective shutdown duo. I can't remember exactly, but to start last year, I seem to recall that they were statistically the most effective in the league in terms of even-strength goals allowed per 60 for the first month or so. Unfortunately, we don't get much offense from them.

[jeedee]

really the only reason i'll be going to games is to watch the D core as sad as that sounds

you should go to see the away teams star players instead :troll:

[6o4__boi]

Lol I remember getting some flak earlier this year around the deadline for suggesting they shud trade Sbisa.
Apparently ppl loved his physicality.

Always thought the deal was garbage and the guy was a bottom 6 pairing at his best.

[Ch28]

Lol I remember getting some flak earlier this year around the deadline for suggesting they shud trade Sbisa.
Apparently ppl loved his physicality.

Always thought the deal was garbage and the guy was a bottom 6 pairing at his best.

Who gave you flak? Don't see anyone here doing that.

[spoon.ek9]

I thought we had a pretty solid consensus that the sbiza signing was a mistake

[PiuYi]

Who gave you flak? Don't see anyone here doing that.

probably me, I'm a Sbisa fan by RS standards... honestly the guy's improved so much last year, if he can make the same amount of improvement for next year the 3 year deal looks 'real good'



maybe I haven't fully stamped out the inner Canuck fan in me but I'm quite excited to see this team next year:

- Eriksson is a huge upgrade over a checked-out Vrbadass
- blueline beefed up with Gudbranson, getting out of our zone more may mean more goals
- young guys keep improving, and we have a legit crop now (BoHo, JV, Baertschi, Troy Stecher, Boeser, Juolevi)

[UFO]

Lol I remember getting some flak earlier this year around the deadline for suggesting they shud trade Sbisa.
Apparently ppl loved his physicality.

Always thought the deal was garbage and the guy was a bottom 6 pairing at his best.

I think context is also important. Our team were soft as hell even by their own standards. Even Dorset couldnt carry the load, and the back end had zero mean streak. Moving sbisa last season would have teams just abuse us worst than they did. With the overhaul on d recently, sbisa is def worth moving, even if he continues to improve that just means we get more back

[dbaz]

demers 5yrs Florida

[Renthal]

would love to see brandon pirri get signed by the canucks

[CRS]

would love to see brandon pirri get signed by the canucks

We have around 4.1 million left in cap space. If we can get him for no more than 3.5 million, that'd be pretty good.

Keep in mind he's a defensive liability.

[Renthal]

anyone think subban will challenge for a roster spot this fall?
maybe some sheltered minutes?

[Jmac]

anyone think subban will challenge for a roster spot this fall?
maybe some sheltered minutes?
I don't think he'll really be given much consideration, to be honest, which isn't to say he doesn't deserve it, but it doesn't seem like management is very high on him (similar to how they didn't seem very high on Shinkaruk despite Shinkaruk thriving in Utica).

When I look at our defense right now, it looks like:
Edler-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
Sbisa-???

Pedan and Biega are waiver-eligible, Tryamkin has an out clause (if he's sent down to the AHL, he can instead choose to go back to Russia).

Is he better than those 3? If he is, is it enough of a difference that it's worth exposing 1 of them on waivers (or losing Tryamkin to Russia)?

I'm leaning towards no.

A lot can change in the next 3 months, so there's that as well.

[Renthal]

theres that phillip larsen D-guy they signed yesterday as well

[Mike Oxbig]

Subban cant be our tory krug? both 5'9 offensive d man

[dbaz]

subban is 2 years away atleast. our d is this next year unless trades happen

edler tanev
hutton gudbranson
sbisa tryamkin
larsen

[Hondaracer]

Really think Hutton and Guddy gonna be together? They are our only puck movers really

Maybe double shift guddy or somthing I guess

[Devastator]

When the guddy trade happened Benning said they were looking for someone to play with Hutton so he didn't have to worry so much and had a stay at home kinda dman. I think they see Hutton's potential to be a good puck moving, break out of your own end kinda dman.

[6o4__boi]

Canucks name Doug Jarvis assistant coach

lol Benning really going hard after Bruin leftovers

[murd0c]

Vancouver Canucks name NHL ironman Doug Jarvis as assistant coach - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks-name-nhl-ironman-doug-jarvis-assistant-coach/)

VANCOUVER — The Vancouver Canucks have named Doug Jarvis, holder of the NHL’s ironman record, as an assistant coach.

The Brantford, Ont., native has 26 years of coaching experience following a 13-season NHL playing career.

He is a six-time Stanley Cup champion, winning four times as a player with Montreal and twice as an assistant coach with Dallas (1999) and Boston (2011).

Jarvis still holds the NHL ironman record with 964 consecutive games played, never missing a game his entire career. He recorded 403 career points (139 goals, 264 assists) with Montreal, Washington and Hartford.




Jarvis won the Selke Trophy as top defensive forward in 1984 and the Masterton Trophy for perseverance and dedication in 1987.

Jarvis joins head coach Willie Desjardins' staff alongside assistants Doug Lidster and Perry Pearn.

[6o4__boi]

https://twitter.com/Berger_BYTES/status/749993072507977728

:fuckthatshit:
Can we even afford to compete with Edmonton and Toronto?
We barely have assets as it is.

[highfive]

I don't even know if Colorado is going to ask for roster players or prospects.

Larson deal is going to make Barrie super expensive now

[murd0c]

Tanev and next years 2nd round pick for Barrie :troll: