[StylinRed]

On news right now

He was apparently wearing tactical gear was hit by police but unphased

1 person of interest turned himself in

And a suspect that was in a fire fight with police was apprehended


Suspected to be retaliation over those two separate police killings of two suspects, in recent days

[Jas29]

Four Police Officers Dead, Several Hurt at Dallas Protest - WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/shots-fired-at-dallas-protest-over-police-shootings-in-baton-rouge-and-minnesota-1467947604)

[GS8]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of the suspects is affiliated with BLM or pledges allegiance to them.

Fucking racist hypocrites

RIP to the ones who fell tonight

[Vansterdam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQ25Hj0hdc

[StylinRed]

I can understand their anger, the recent videos of police killings were horrific, and honestly something like this was expected, there are so many psychopath shooters out there and militiamen, it was odd not seeing one of them come out and attack officers instead of schools... you can't really prevent something like this with so many crackpots and guns out there

The former police on TV are wanting to militarize the police, as if that would change anything :rolleyes:

[Nlkko]

Fuck.

[Hondaracer]

It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
Two shots in the dark now Huey's dead

[StylinRed]

So the first shots happened at a protest against those killings, ahh

Suspect is in a garage and claims he's placed bombs everywhere

[westopher]

Fighting prejiduce and violence with prejudice and violence.
What a fucked up world we live in.

[Manic!]

Remember Texas just became a open carry state. This guy could have been walking around with a bunch of guns all day and no one could do anything.

https://thelastofthemillenniums.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/gun-nuts8.png

http://www.allthingscrimeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/dor14.jpg

I guess you nedd 12 good guys with a gun.

[J-Chow]

Rip.
The right to bear arms my ass. It doesn't work. Period.

[T4RAWR]

...

The former police on TV are wanting to militarize the police, as if that would change anything :rolleyes:

maybe it'll help keep some of them alive? dodging sniper fire and dealing with IEDs is something the army trains its people to do. maybe officers should get the same training now.

[Traum]

A 5th officer has died. Needless to say, this turn of event is just tragic.

On the other hand, I am really quite surprised that an incident of this sort and at this scale didn't happen (in America) until now.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

uhhhh

is it me or does this whole black lives matter feel like the black panthers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

and we all know how that ended.

these groups just make segregation even more obvious.

they're all catalysts for violence. nothing more.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Black-Panther-Party-armed-guards-in-street-shotguns.jpg

http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/images/bpp/wsa/black%20panthers%202-28-69.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160211141228-10-black-panthers-0211-super-169.jpg

https://www.popularresistance.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Black-Panther-Party-revisted-e1422123177842.jpg

because we are mere mortals bound to learning by experiencing things for ourselves first hand, that's why history keeps repeating itself forever. and that's why nothing will ever change.

[StylinRed]

Remember Texas just became a open carry state. This guy could have been walking around with a bunch of guns all day and no one could do anything.

I guess you nedd 12 good guys with a gun.

One of the suspects that they posted a picture of,who later contacted police, was walking around the street with a rifle, he isn't involved... Just some guy strolling downtown Dallas with a rifle... -_-

[Mr.Money]

too many copy cats out there watching it unfold.....this is sickening knowing that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQ25Hj0hdc

looks like he has some sort of training?...who the fuck has the balls to run at a person with a pistol pointed towards your way?
And who knows if the cop had a chance,he was probably under heavy stress and viewing the guy in heavy body armor with a Rifle thinking its undercover police.

[threezero]

too many copy cats out there watching it unfold.....this is sickening knowing that.


looks like he has some sort of training?...who the fuck has the balls to run at a person with a pistol pointed towards your way?
And knows if the cop had a chance,he was probably under heavy stress and viewing the guy in heavy body armor with a Rifle thinking its undercover police.

Seems like a standard military flanking technique. Shoot at one side of the pillar to get the other guy to look that way than wrap around and get him from behind.

[Hondaracer]

i agree with Ulic's points.

The whole black lives matter, and the way people are approaching it seems so backward.

The way it's being handled it's making things way worse lol.. like wayyyy worse.

but i guess people have kind of run out of options as to what to do

[underscore]

Suspected to be retaliation over those two separate police killings of two suspects, in recent days

:rukidding: The amount of stupid it takes for someone to have that thought process boggles my mind.

[StylinRed]

so the suspect was killed by police. they used their bomb disposal robot, put a bomb on it, and detonated it when the robot got near the suspect


Police in Dallas used a bomb disposal robot to kill a suspect after last night’s deadly shooting during a protest. In a press conference, Dallas police chief David Brown said that the robot was deployed after negotiations with the suspect failed. "We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension for it to detonate where the suspect was," said Brown. "Other options would have exposed our officers to great danger. The suspect is deceased as a result of detonating the bomb."

It’s not entirely clear what the "device" in question was, although it may have been one of the small explosives that are normally used to safely detonate larger bombs. A previous statement, from Dallas’ mayor, said only that the suspect had died after police used explosives to "blast him out."

Police have used remote-controlled bomb disposal robots for other purposes; San Jose police talked a man out of suicide last year after delivering a phone and pizza to him via one. But this is the first known case where a department has described using one as a weapon, defense technology expert Peter Singer posted on Twitter, although he notes it's been used this way informally by US troops and insurgents. Unlike with the "killer robots" that have ethicists most worried, any decisions in Dallas were made clearly by humans — it’s much more like an advanced tool used in an unexpected way than anything artificially intelligent or designed for murder. Still, beyond the unmanned drones used in bombing strikes, it’s one of the first known times that a robot has been intentionally used to kill a human outside the battlefield.


the press conference clip is short but informative

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dallas-police-used-bomb-robot-to-take-down-gunman-who-shot-cops-721129539651

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/8/12128230/dallas-police-bomb-disposal-robot-explosives-killed-shooting-suspect

[StylinRed]

Micah Johnson, US Army Reserves

Dallas shooting: Gunman 'wanted to kill whites' says police chief - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36745862)

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/AF7B/production/_90332944_micahxjohnson_facebook.jpghttp://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/8F2D/production/_90335663_micahxjohnson_facebook_comp.jpg

[murd0c]

a cop was just shot in Missouri at a traffic stop

Suspect in custody after officer shot in Ballwin - KMOV.com (http://www.kmov.com/story/32402261/officer-shot-in-ballwin)

BALLWIN, Mo. (KMOV.com) – A police officer was shot in Ballwin Friday morning, according to the St. Louis County Police Department.


The officer was shot around 11:10 a.m. after he encountered the suspect, who was inside a vehicle, on New Ballwin Road, St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said. After encountering the suspect, there was some sort of interaction between the two that led to the officer being shot.

Following the shooting, the suspect fled in a Blue Ford Taurus with temporary Illinois plates. An officer with the St. Louis County Police Department saw the suspect vehicle, at which time the suspect jumped from the vehicle on Burgundy Lane and ran a street over to Valley View, where he was taken into custody without any resistance, according to Chief Belmar.

A pistol was recovered from the scene, police said.
Chief Belmar did not disclose any information about the officer’s injuries, but said he took a “hard hit.”

Skyzoom 4 was over the scene on Burgundy Lane around 12:30 p.m. when a handcuffed man was being placed in the back of a police vehicle. Information about that man has not been released.

No other details have been made available.

[Ball.J.Inder]

Man angry about racial prejudice or police brutality or nahh. It takes another level of crazy to get a high power rifle and start shooting cops.

[Berzerker]

How can you feel safe as a black person in Eastern USA right now? 2 Police murders with zero resistance or reason. Anyone remember Rodney King? Shits about to blow up bad in 'Murica and they have no way to stop it. There are more people with guns than police so if those people decide to "make a stand" what are they gonna do? Call the military? Almost seems that's what America has been driving towards for a long time. Military State.

https://youtu.be/LH8gUhDd6WE

Berz out.

[Traum]

How can you feel safe as a black person in Eastern USA right now? 2 Police murders with zero resistance or reason. Anyone remember Rodney King? Shits about to blow up bad in 'Murica and they have no way to stop it. There are more people with guns than police so if those people decide to "make a stand" what are they gonna do? Call the military? Almost seems that's what America has been driving towards for a long time. Military State.
Exactly what I am thinking. Esp with the Philando Castile case, the girlfriend's story is darn near 100% plausible (and hence believable), plus the guy has a solid reputation in his community. If that kind of people are getting shot and killed by the police for following police orders, it really makes the black population think wtf they'd have to do, and how much backwards they'd have to bend over to stay alive and not get shot by the police. And then it kind of becomes a fight or flight situation, and some will invariably choose the option to fight.

[Mr.HappySilp]

And I am sure trump will make some stupid statements about keeping black out.... which only makes it worse.

[Berzerker]

This is what it is like in the US.
https://youtu.be/YXv2Pjtc3Zk

Can't get much more racist than that can you?

Berz out.

[Verdasco]

USA is fucked atm

legit fucked

shambles.

[GLOW]

This is what it is like in the US.
https://youtu.be/YXv2Pjtc3Zk

Can't get much more racist than that can you?

Berz out.

playing devil's advocate here: in order for that to be a proper comparison wouldn't it have to be in the same area of town with the same cops? the cops with the black dude may have acted the same way regardless of who was carrying an AR15, and that area by the 7-11 could be a crime ridden neighbourhood... just sayin'.

[parm104]

Why isn't this being deemed a terrorist attack?

[Mr.Money]

Why isn't this being deemed a terrorist attack?

Group hasn't being called out,police interviewed the suspect before they blew him up with mobile IED said he was acting Solo.....who knows if thats true,police were going to every apartment on the block looking for suspects

[Gucci Mane]

https://www.facebook.com/andrewfrisella?fref=ts


watch the first video at the top. also, if you dont follow this guy on social media already, you should.

[RRxtar]

the problem is the significance of this, and the new york shootings last year, and the few more that are sure to pop up as this turns into a trend. its going to lead to way more police shootings as the police are going to be way more on edge

[Oscar_Binswood]

Mean while in Canada....

Ottawa police officer filmed busting a move on Canada Day - Ottawa - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-cop-canada-day-dance-rideau-street-1.3662790)

[Adorkami]

It may be lawful but it's idiotic someone can walk down the street carrying an AR15. Also I agree with Glow that using two random pieces of evidence doesn't show a trend of racism. I believe I've seen the first part of the video before and I think the officer mentions he is ex military so I'm fairly sure training also played a large part of how the situations were handled.

[7seven]

too many copy cats out there watching it unfold.....this is sickening knowing that.


There have already been a number of incidents since the Dallas incident, too many morons out there


Authorities: Highway gunman motivated by police shootings (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c894476bcbcf4d98b68ae98b27e0a0ff/authorities-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings)

BRISTOL, Tenn. (AP) — A man accused of shooting indiscriminately at passing cars and police on a Tennessee highway told investigators he was angry about police violence against African-Americans, authorities said Friday.

One woman died and three others, including one police officer, were injured in the rampage early Thursday morning rampage. Meanwhile, police say officers have also been targeted in Georgia and Missouri in the aftermath of two high-profile killings of black men by law enforcement and the Dallas attack that left five officers dead and seven more wounded.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said in a news release that initial conversations with the suspect, 37-year-old Lakeem Keon Scott, revealed he was troubled by several incidents across the U.S.

Scott, who is black, was wounded in the shootout with police, remains hospitalized and has not yet been charged. All those shot were white, police confirmed.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation alleges Scott — armed with an assault rifle, a pistol and a large amount of ammunition — fired shots through the window of the Days Inn on Volunteer Parkway.

The front desk clerk, Deborah Watts, was struck and injured. Days Inn owner Kiran Patel said he awoke to the sound of gunfire. His wife called the front desk to see what happened, Watts answered and said she'd been shot. She remains in the hospital in serious but stable condition.

The gunman then turned his fire to cars passing on the highway, investigators say.

Newspaper carrier Jennifer Rooney, a 44-year-old mother of two, was on her way to pick up papers for the morning delivery when a bullet struck her. The Bristol Herald-Courier reported that her car careened over a median and crashed through a chain link fence.

David Whitman Davis was also injured by flying glass from the gunfire, the TBI said.

Three officers with the Bristol Tennessee Police Department arrived and confronted Scott, who fired on them.

Office Matthew Cousins was hit in the leg. He was treated for superficial injuries and released.

Scott was stuck by the officers returning fire. He remains in the hospital in serious but stable condition.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said the investigation is ongoing as they work to understand the shooter's motive.

The shooting spree in Tennessee began around 2:20 a.m. Thursday on the heels of the fatal shootings of black men in Minnesota and Louisiana. Later Thursday night, 12 officers were shot in Dallas during a Black Lives Matter protest by a man who police say declared he was angry about police shootings of black men and wanted to exterminate whites. Five of the officers died.

The shootings are part of a spate of attacks on officers across the U.S. In south Georgia, police said one officer was ambushed Friday when he came to an apartment complex to investigate a report of a break-in. Another officer was fired upon by a motorist north of Atlanta. And just outside St. Louis, police say an officer was ambushed during a traffic stop.

[StylinRed]

Why isn't this being deemed a terrorist attack?

On CNN guests were calling it terrorism but some were dissenting to that because the guy wasn't Muslim ROFL smh

The guests calling it terrorism won the argument tho, but still, it's ridiculous how the definition has changed over the years, even dictionary definitions

[Manic!]

CNN had a black cop on and he said he was scared of the police when he was off duty. That's how messed up the US is.

[parm104]

Group hasn't being called out,police interviewed the suspect before they blew him up with mobile IED said he was acting Solo.....who knows if thats true,police were going to every apartment on the block looking for suspects

Perhaps true, but the perpetrator doesn't have to be affiliated with a known group or any group for that matter to be classified as a terrorist.

Today, it's far too easy and (in my opinion) common, for a lunatic who has a personal agenda to burn the world down to say they are acting out because they're aligned with a particular terrorist group.

[underscore]

How can you feel safe as a black person in Eastern USA right now? 2 Police murders with zero resistance or reason.

323 million people in the country, 2 people get killed and everyone freaks out?

CNN had a black cop on and he said he was scared of the police when he was off duty. That's how messed up the US is.

The whole country is messed up because one of the crappiest news networks found 1 guy that's scared?

[Hondaracer]

Outside of left wing media reports, I'm sure that there are many white people shot daily by police no? Lol

How about Lives matter instead of BLM? As I've always said, it's easy for a white Canadian to say, but fuck, imo every time you keep puting this fucking "black" label on everything, it's just increasing the divide.

[GS8]

Outside of left wing media reports, I'm sure that there are many white people shot daily by police no? Lol

How about Lives matter instead of BLM? As I've always said, it's easy for a white Canadian to say, but fuck, imo every time you keep puting this fucking "black" label on everything, it's just increasing the divide.

Police kill more whites than blacks. Fact.

The Alton Sterling and Philando Castile shootings have caused an uproar among leftists because they fuel their narrative that racist white police officers are hunting down innocent black men. But the statistics – brought to light by the superb work of Heather MacDonald – tell a different story.

Here are five key statistics you need to know about cops killing blacks.

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to MacDonald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to MacDonald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

"If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said MacDonald in her Hillsdale speech.

3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But MacDonald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

MacDonald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them."

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Gary Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to MacDonald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what MacDonald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

Anti-police rhetoric has deadly consequences.

5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks | Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler)

I suggest clicking the link ^ because there's embedded links that take you to more reports that completely contradict BLM's entire MO. Between BLM and other SJW style movements, society is regressing, not progressing. The black on black violence is insanity right now. Look at Chicago...

In my factual opinion, this is the only Black Label that matters

https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/540/blend_joh1.jpg

[Adorkami]

Outside of left wing media reports, I'm sure that there are many white people shot daily by police no? Lol

How about Lives matter instead of BLM? As I've always said, it's easy for a white Canadian to say, but fuck, imo every time you keep puting this fucking "black" label on everything, it's just increasing the divide.

FBI investigating after cellphone video shows police fatally shooting unarmed man in Fresno - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-video-shooting-dylan-noble-20160707-snap-story.html)

unarmed white kid got killed by the police, two while standing and two while laying on the ground.

[StylinRed]

its no doubt that police have become, or maybe we're just noticing more, very lax in their use of force, even here at home, we've all heard the stories and seen the videos.

like the recent video release of the UBC student beating (from 5yrs ago tho) because the transit officer didn't believe the name he was given was real, an officer that failed his use of force test and the question on when to deploy a baton. (he's been on admin leave for 5 years sucking up our tax dollars)

the thing is the only way to really get bs like this to stop happening is to be loud, and the BLM group are doing just that, albeit they're only concerned for Blacks, but why should they be inclusive? why put them down for being concerned with Black lives only? there are all sorts of groups out there which aren't inclusive and no one bats an eye.. instead of working against a group trying to stop violence, you should be protesting any and all unjust police use of force, start an All Lives Matter group then, and invite the BLM reps

unless you dont think there's a use of force problem... but then you shouldn't be nitpicking the BLM for having the B

[Manic!]

Police kill more whites than blacks. Fact.



5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks | Daily Wire (http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler)

Here are five key statistics you need to know about cops killing blacks.

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015.


Only wtice ans many whites?: White people make up 62.5 percent of the population. Blacks only 13.2 percent. So blacks are killed at a much higher rate than whites.

The guy killed in Minnesota was pulled over for a broken tail light. But guess what his tail light was not broken. The cop just pulled him over because he was black and blacks are always up to no go. The stop was 100% B.S.

Also DWB driving while black is real ABC News PrimeTime Live proved it a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhXU-2EJDE

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zok9rk9x_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVhasi95c4

[E-SPEC]

[QUOTE=Manic!;8770729]

The guy killed in Minnesota was pulled over for a broken tail light. But guess what his tail light was not broken. The cop just pulled him over because he was black and blacks are always up to no go. The stop was 100% B.S.[quote/]

^^^You wanna know another fact about him? He was a sex offender and had a history of Assaults. Juuust saying...

[jasonturbo]

I think the main issue here is the culture of specific Police departments.

The key is getting the good/neutral police to put pressure on the force to do something about the bad police. Many investigations into Police wrong doing reveal that there is typically a culture of complacency and blue brotherhood where even if one officer doesn't approve of the conducts of another, they won't say anything.

You have to remember in the states, outside of major metro areas, a lot of the officers are simply "deputized" people who might have been working at home depot selling lumber the week before (Many of them probably related or friends with the Sheriff etc). In major metro areas there it is now common that police recruits must attend significant training or apply after completing police science programs etc.

Pretty sad though, one guy is shot directly in the heart by Police while laying on his back pinned against a car... and then a number of officers, who were probably very good people are killed in an act of vengeance.

I still <3 Murica and would happily move there.

[Manic!]

[QUOTE=Manic!;8770729]

The guy killed in Minnesota was pulled over for a broken tail light. But guess what his tail light was not broken. The cop just pulled him over because he was black and blacks are always up to no go. The stop was 100% B.S.[quote/]

^^^You wanna know another fact about him? He was a sex offender and had a history of Assaults. Juuust saying...

Wanna make up some more B.S. lies.

Gun Safety and Sex Offenders (http://endsexualviolence.org/where-we-stand/gun-safety-and-sex-offenders)

Federal law prohibits persons convicted of a felony, including sex offenders, from either possessing or purchasing guns.

He had a license to carry meaning he was never convicted of anything.

[RiceIntegraRS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R07RyFN1cdY

[Berzerker]

323 million people in the country, 2 people get killed and everyone freaks out?



The whole country is messed up because one of the crappiest news networks found 1 guy that's scared?

Are you just being a dick?

2 people THIS WEEK. What about the 20 years preceding this without social media to show it? There are hundred if not thousands of documented cases of black men being killed by police.

Berz out.

[murd0c]

The issue is this is happening over and over and over again and things are not changing... yes two people the past week but this is happening day after day with no change in sight.

[Manic!]

Some idiot just walked into a BLM march in Arizona with a trump sign.

skip to 1:11:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIB_lJnz6OI

[StylinRed]

The guy killed in Minnesota was pulled over for a broken tail light. But guess what his tail light was not broken. The cop just pulled him over because he was black and blacks are always up to no go. The stop was 100% B.S.

^^^You wanna know another fact about him? He was a sex offender and had a history of Assaults. Juuust saying...

he works in a school cafeteria... so yeah.. no

[Manic!]

he works in a school cafeteria... so yeah.. no

Thats just E-spec making up B.S. it's not the first time.

[Ferra]

This is what it is like in the US.
https://youtu.be/YXv2Pjtc3Zk

Can't get much more racist than that can you?

Berz out.
but noticed how the black guy was peacefully put on cuff and wasn't shot or beat up when he complied with the police order? :derp:

[Manic!]

but noticed how the black guy was peacefully put on cuff and wasn't shot or beat up when he complied with the police order? :derp:

But why was he arrested in the first place. They had no reason to detain him.

[parm104]

Why do people get so butt hurt if an organization or a movement wants to make their message about their own people and their own struggles?

How does Black Lives Matter "campaign" effect your day to day life in anyway? If you don't understand why BLM is significant and why it's okay to have a movement to help aid the progress of one particular race, then you don't understand the history of systemic violence, abuse, corruption and discrimination against blacks.

I especially love the "but what about the...." Arguments people raise. If you want to raise money/donations for a particular group or have a vigil for another group go right ahead. It's so easy today to sit on the internet and cry about everything and not take any action.

[ray666]

Because its not really about "black lives matter." If black lives really mattered, the protestors would be protesting in cities like Chicago and Baltimore where there is an overwhelming amount of blacks killing other black people; way more than the amount of whites (or cops) killing blacks. Yes, there are a few examples of cops being racist and basically killing a few black people in cold blood, but there's other ways in addressing this problem where going out and killing innocent police officers isn't one of them.

A lot of their protests just make the movement lack any credibility and makes it look like a joke. I.e in Toronto, where BLM interrupts the gay pride parade, make demands and throw a tantrum until they get what they wanted. How are they going to get any legitimacy if they keep doing things like this?

[CharlesInCharge]

I bet you think the US is not raciest because Obama is half black...tell us do you think blacks deserve equal justice? Like equal policing and judges?
To so arrogantly say blacks should protest black on black killings (where drugs are always in the equation)... how about going up the food chain with blacks protesting the ZioAmerican empire that is systematically behind all the misery in the world.
Did you know drugs grow on trees? Well they do and all out of ZioAmerican occupied countries like Afghanistan and Columbia.

edit
hsbc bank, behind our famed Vancouver fireworks and its ads on this forum.. theyve been caught red handed funneling ludicrous amounts of drug money... but you dont hear that on the 6 oclock news.

[underscore]

Are you just being a dick?

2 people THIS WEEK. What about the 20 years preceding this without social media to show it? There are hundred if not thousands of documented cases of black men being killed by police.

Berz out.

Link to this documentation? How many of those cases were excessive force, and how many were justified?

[Manic!]

Link to this documentation? How many of those cases were excessive force, and how many were justified?

They where all justified because the cop said so. All a cop has to say is he felt threatened and he gets off. That's the who point of these demonstrations. It's only been the last few years where video camera's have become common. Before that it was the cops word against a dead person. Even if the person survived who is going to talk the word of a black person over a cop.

[Eastwood]

The plot thickens a little as more information is being released.

Apparently Castile was wanted for an armed robbery two days prior and that's why the COP pulled the car over.

In the video the woman is saying that they were pulled over for a busted tail light, as this was what the police told them when they pulled them over to investigate Castile.

The media reported at first that Castile had a concealed weapons permit, which is now known to be untrue, and that he identified the firearm to the officer.

The police are now saying this is also untrue and that a firearm is visible on Castile's lap in the video (I can't verify this however), which is why the officer shot the man.

We won't really know what happened until the police release the dash cam footage, if they decide too.

Its too hard to judge a video taken after the incident occurred.

ANOTHER Media Narrative Fail: Castile Had Gun in His Lap, Failed to Comply to Do Not Move Order, Was Wanted for Robbery (VIDEO) (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/another-anti-cop-media-fail-castile-gun-lap-failed-comply-not-move-order/)

Also wanted to post this video. People fail to realize how hard it is being a COP especially in the US where at any moment someone could be armed and willing to use it against you.

Never has it been a tougher time to be a COP in the States with the media narrative that COPS are evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2-NEo3NVU

[Manic!]

The plot thickens a little as more information is being released.

Apparently Castile was wanted for an armed robbery two days prior and that's why the COP pulled the car over.

In the video the woman is saying that they were pulled over for a busted tail light, as this was what the police told them when they pulled them over to investigate Castile.

The media reported at first that Castile had a concealed weapons permit, which is now known to be untrue, and that he identified the firearm to the officer.

The police are now saying this is also untrue and that a firearm is visible on Castile's lap in the video (I can't verify this however), which is why the officer shot the man.

We won't really know what happened until the police release the dash cam footage, if they decide too.

Its too hard to judge a video taken after the incident occurred.

ANOTHER Media Narrative Fail: Castile Had Gun in His Lap, Failed to Comply to Do Not Move Order, Was Wanted for Robbery (VIDEO) (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/another-anti-cop-media-fail-castile-gun-lap-failed-comply-not-move-order/)

Also wanted to post this video. People fail to realize how hard it is being a COP especially in the US where at any moment someone could be armed and willing to use it against you.

Never has it been a tougher time to be a COP in the States with the media narrative that COPS are evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K2-NEo3NVU

So days after the shooting when the cop has had plenty of time to talk to a lawyer the story changes. That's standard procedure after a cop shooting. Dirtying up the dead victim is standard . So now they say he was wanted in a robbery? Let me guess the description of the suspect was young black male. Also the article linked above says he did not apply for a gun permit with the local he does not have to it's state issued. That would be like having to apply car car insurance in every city you drive. According to multiple sources he had a gun permit issued in a place called Robbinsdale.



Philando Castile had permit to carry gun when he was shot - StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/philando-castile-had-permit-to-carry-gun/386054481/)

Philando Castile had valid permit for gun when he was killed. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/09/philando_castile_had_valid_permit_for_gun_when_he_ was_killed.html)


Look at the video do you see a gun on his lap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7h2j0n18jg


This was Philando's 53 time he had been pulled over buy the cops in 14 years. That's fucking nuts.


Breaking news: Report: Philando Castile Pulled Over Because He Matched Description of Suspect With ‘Wide Set Nose

https://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/07/philando-castile-pulled-over-because-he-matched-description-of-suspect-with-wide-set-nose-shots-fired-less-than-2-minutes-later/

Put money on it he had nothing to do with the robbery. Eastwood you down for a $50 bet?

[Eastwood]

I don't know what happened nor did I imply I did. Its not as cut and dry as it seems.

The media always takes the narrative that COPS are evil and we don't have conclusive evidence of what happened yet.

All we have is footage after the incident occurred.

I'm not defending the guy who got killed and I'm not defending the police officer, because the truth is I don't know and neither do you.

[Manic!]

I don't know what happened nor did I imply I did. Its not as cut and dry as it seems.

The media always takes the narrative that COPS are evil and we don't have conclusive evidence of what happened yet.

All we have is footage after the incident occurred.

I'm not defending the guy who got killed and I'm not defending the police officer, because the truth is I don't know and neither do you.

You see no gun in the video, cop does not claim he took the gun. Did it just vanish because the cop says it was on his lap.

[mikemhg]

It blows my mind, how can anyone argue the side of police officers in these scenarios? What's wrong with simply acknowledging there is a problem? It broke my heart watching that video, the way the police were pointing their guns and screaming at the woman when she was getting out of the car, with the child in the backseat like that. What kind of threat did they think she was at that point? The problem here is the police culture. Another problem is that they're recruiting these ex-military kids who are coming back from Irag and Afghanistan with this shoot-first mentality.

To add to this you employ men who have no relation to the communities they're policing, how are you going to have empathy for a person who doesn't look, or come from the same community as you? How can some people who comment on this situation be so ignorant to history? Has this new generation never seen the photo's and videos of how officers treated blacks with impunity in the 60's, 70's and 80's, and even 90's? There are officers and commissioners that are still working and influencing practice in departments from that time to this day. How can you not deny that this is a systemic issue within the departments themselves?

What happened to using communication to dissolve a situation? In my previous capacity I worked in corrections, you would be the sole guard on a prison pod of 60 other inmates, you were never armed with a weapon. You would have to use your words, and common sense to protect yourself and keep calm in a situation, your training was specific to that. Policing doesn't even tank in the Top 10 of dangerous jobs in the US, so why are these officers acting like this, if you are afraid, than don't do the damn job.

And can we please put to dead two of the worst arguments about this whole thing? The argument that blacks shoot blacks more, or that officers shoot white people more than blacks.

Both arguments are invalid. The first argument is invalid because let's be real here, whites shoot whites more than blacks shoot whites, that's the case with crime across the board, we commit crimes to those who live within our communities. Guess what, when a woman is killed, who do you think 9 times out of 10 is the perp? The Spouse. We hurt the one's who we are closest to. Gang violence in terms of black on black shootings is a product of the environment. No one is saying that crime between blacks isn't an issue, but that is a socioeconomic one that is separate to this problem here, apples to oranges.

Furthermore you must also take into account why these types of crimes are able to exist between blacks in these communities. If there is decades of systematic abuse from Police who are supposed to be protecting the community, is there is a fear of police, than how can you have a safe community? It's a self fulfilling prophesy, if you don't trust the police, why would you call them? In turn, crimes will persist within that community.

That second argument of white being shot more often by cops than blacks. That's also a tongue in cheek argument that doesn't carry weight, you are going only by pure statistics in terms of people being shot. The population of whites within the US is roughly 75%, with blacks carrying a population of roughly 12%. In order to properly relay the statistic you must take the number of whites shot by police in relation to the general population, the same with blacks. When you actually take that stat into account, you will find that blacks are shot and killed more than twice the amount that whites are shot by police.

Either way I put it like this, it's very easy for us to not feel sympathy or regard for someone who does not look like us, or come from the same community. I ask you this though, when you see these shootings, how would you feel if one of these people was your friend, or family? Would you have not wanted the officer involved to take more time to diffuse the situation? Would you not want to see the situation handled differently, rather than having a dead friend of family member as a result of a simple road stop, or selling CD's outside of a corner store? Of course you would, so think about it for a second.

This short video is very telling of the issue here: https://youtu.be/RwA_4OamFhI

One thing to note, did anyone find it interesting how this shooter in Dallas was killed? with a remote bomb? I'm pretty sure that the first time the police have used a robot controlled remote bomb to kill a perp. I'm not saying that is right or wrong, but something bugs me about that, sets an interesting president.

Nonetheless it's very unfortunate these officers were shot, but at the same time, what do you expect? How long can poke a dog until it bites?

[Manic!]

Blowing the guy up was straight up murder/revenge.

[Bouncing Bettys]

The real social war is about wealth and power, not race or gender. Greed is an element of human nature, it doesn't give a fuck about race or gender. As long as you have wealth and power, you're in the club. All this SJW crap does is categorize and seperate people and we end up fighting each other. Those at the top are more than happy to sit back with the widening wealth gap while we point the finger at each other rather than at them.

Yes violent crime is higher among blacks. They aren't, by nature, more violent. They exist in a hostile environment which those with wealth and power have created. The system is rigged, and people are starting to realise it.

[ray666]

Blowing the guy up was straight up murder/revenge.

Not necessarily. This is a post I read from someone who posted on reddit.

Food for thought:
-The use of deadly force was justified by several factors: The suspect's actions (murder and aggravated assault) and his threats (bombs, end-of-times, refusal to submit) and his continued gun battle with law enforcement.

-This was not a "short amount of time". The standoff lasted about 5 hours, which is a long time for active aggression to be directed towards the public without coming under control. Remember, we are protectors of the peace. Peace was not possible under this scenario with his continued presence and action. There are factors one can think of, but not control. Wait til he passes out? What if he's on amphetamines. Etc.

-The use of other means of force was probably not possible in a safe manner. He had a defensible position in a concrete elevated structure and was armed with a rifle and reports of body armor at the time. He also stated there were bombs planted. That pretty much eliminates using personnel. As a parking structure, vehicle height was probably limited to 8'. Most Bearcats and other police APCs are much taller than that and probably would not fit, so there wasn't a better way to approach him.

-Once the legal use of force is justified, most lawyers will agree the manner in -which it is applied (gun, knife or bomb) does not matter. LE has to justify the possession and use of explosives to the ATF just like civilians do. The use of a bomb is weird to us in America, but likely entirely proper.

[parm104]

It blows my mind, how can anyone argue the side of police officers in these scenarios? What's wrong with simply acknowledging there is a problem?

I don't think those same people recognize that there is a fundamental difference between a police officer killing an unarmed man and a gangbanger killing a gangbanger or innocent man, REGARDLESS of colour.

When a citizen commits a murder they are acting under no power or delegation granted to them by the government. However, a peace officer, a corrections officer or anyone else operating under the colour of law is provided with special powers and authority to protect and serve the general public. Absolutely every murder by the police should be examined and determined whether it was appropriate and no you cannot compare a police officer shooting a man to a gangbanger or common citizen killing another member of our society.

Blue shield is real and many people have it. These same people think that either you're with the police or you're against them. There is no middle ground for them. Who says one cannot scrutinize an action by police and still support law enforcement? This division is sad really and somewhat childish imo. It's like douchey Canucks fans who lash out at other fans who say they're playing like shit or that they're sucking this season. "well you're not a real fan!"

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

americans doesn't have a race problem.

it has an american problem.

[parm104]

americans doesn't have a race problem.

it has an american problem.

They're too busy convincing themselves that they're #1 and worried more about an arbitrary world ranking than anything else.

[RRxtar]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/us/missouri-man-is-shot-dead-by-officer-during-break-in.html


Man and cop get in an arguement on Facebook
Man breaks into the house of a relative of the cop, with the cop in the house
Cop kills the man.


black lives matter tho

[westopher]

While I don't want to discount the racial segregation in the United states, this all leads back to the fact EVERYONE has a fucking gun. Such a massive percentage of the country is immersed in the culture that every single person you end up in an altercation with is going to shoot you, and it creates a culture of paranoia, that extends to everyone, including police.
Its a kill or be killed mentality.
Imagine being a cop and thinking every single person you confront can shoot you. It leads to some fucking horrible decisions. Couple that with systematic racism and a higher risk of black males being involved in violent crimes (yet again due to the systematic racism that keeps black youth poor and desperate) and it seems less about the fact that a cop wants to kill a black male, and more that the cop fears the black male.

[Manic!]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/us/missouri-man-is-shot-dead-by-officer-during-break-in.html


Man and cop get in an arguement on Facebook
Man breaks into the house of a relative of the cop, with the cop in the house
Cop kills the man.


black lives matter tho

Cop threatens 5 year old on facebook gets fired

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4501682/thumbs/o-LANAYDRA-WILLIAMS-FACEBOOK-570.jpg?11

Overland Park, Kansas Cop Fired After Threatening Child On Facebook (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/07/11/cop-fired-facebook-threat_n_10926840.html)

[quasi]

That moron went from 0 to fired in no time. He tossed his whole future in the toilet on one facebook post, that police department has to be better off.

[Mr.Money]

he got trolled hard by the lady with the profile picture of a masked man holding a knife up to a police officers neck lol

[parm104]

black lives matter tho

The double standard boggles my mind. We must accept that not all cops are bad and that a few bad apples are ruining the reputation of an entire profession across this continent. The innocent cops who got shot and killed execution style did not deserve to die because of the actions of other people simply sharing the same profession as them....

....why must the BLM movement be judged based on the idiots who share the same skin colour? Is it not equally important to make sure society doesn't stereotype all law enforcement based on the actions of a few as it is that we don't stereotype all blacks (especially those looking for equality and justice in today's world) based on the actions of a few?