[Rallydrv]

So after years of owning acura (4), Decided to make move to euro brand. 2014 glk250 (all packages)
I never had mechanical problems with any previous cars. CEL etc.

So wondering what to expect with glk.

It's under full coverage till Jan 2018 thereafter engine and trans till 2020.

I have been offered to extend full coverage till 2020 that I'm considering,
Can any glk250 owners or otherwise chime in with experience maintaining the car.

Thanks

[BoostedBB6]

The BlueTEC stuff is junk.....these are the words used by my father (Mercedes tech) as well as many others who work there.
If you get one, get full coverage for as long as you plan on owning it. Turbos are known to go. Oil leaks a plenty due to the placement of the turbo and high heat concentrations.
The DPF's are often replaced around 50k on the cars so if your buying used budget $4000ish to replace that as I do not believe it will be covered by warranty.

There are 11 TSB's out on them and 1 Recall so make sure that the car has been fully serviced and up to date before you buy otherwise you may end up with a lemon.

IMO I would not touch one with a ten foot pole but others have had decent experience with them, however they bough new and most are in another vehicle by now.

[meme405]

There are 11 TSB's out on them and 1 Recall so make sure that the car has been fully serviced and up to date before you buy otherwise you may end up with a lemon.

I hope with a CPO this is all taken care of...

Before we got the CLA, I was looking couple year old Bluetech E-Classes. Fuel economy was a huge draw for us, but in the end problems seemed to plague the line, and there were very few of them around compared to the common place E350 or even E550.

Can I ask why you wouldn't look at the GLK350's? Or is it just this one that caught your eye?

Better yet, have you had a look at the Audi Q5/S5? I keep a close eye on the SUV market, and all the offerings, and honestly out of everything out there, I think the Q5/QS5 offers the best of everything across the board.

[BoostedBB6]

I would far rather get the Audi than any of the GLK line vehicles.
The draw of the fuel mileage and styling is there but after hearing countless stories of these things being nothing but junk I would never buy one.

[Rallydrv]

thanks for input guys


i wanted the 250 for torque and i like looks of the glk (fuel eco is a plus). i just paid deposit , (now reading all reviews kinda scared). we did write under terms and condition "upon obtaining satisfactory financing" can simply say i wasn't satisfied with financing even though i was approved w/ mb finance. -not sure what i can do about it-or just walk away

isn't DPF suppose to regenerate or clean itself? until faulty, is it should be covered for 7 years under emissions warranty

i got work history on VIN
only A/B/A service was done/one CEL(no detail)/ and during CPO adblue was added/all brakes/tires were replaced.

[jjson]

^I...would personally walk away from that.

2014 already one CEL?

If you want torque, any German will have it (especially coming from Acura)

[BoostedBB6]

Emissions is 8 year /130000kms. You will be over on kms far before the 8 years which is the problem.
The DPF should self clean but it does not work well and never has.
For most people there is no point in looking at the warranty length only the kms and Mercedes sucks that way. There kms are very low for the length of time.

[donjalapeno]

I'm a newb what's a cel?

[v_tec]

I'm a newb what's a cel?

Check engine light.

[MTV Cribs]

You should have made this thread before you are about to pick it up. Seems like you already made up your mind and just wanted us to tell you what we think about it. Well I think any used euro car is garbage because they are not reliable. But if you want to be budget balling then it's an ok car. In about a year, you will probably wished you bought another Acura.

[frozen]

I never understood the rationale behind people buying used euros. It's like they barely have enough money to afford them but desperately want to obtain that brand. Priorities?

[death_blossom]

^
that's exactly right. in this city, where everyone has to maintain a bling/baller image, they run out and lease the cheapest BMW or Mercedes they can get their hands on to protray that image.

[westopher]

I never understood the rationale behind people buying used euros. It's like they barely have enough money to afford them but desperately want to obtain that brand. Priorities?
Maybe they have the logic that they don't desperately to have the newest, best car so they lose 30k in the first 2 years of ownership?

[Jmac]

In my case, the comparable Acura/Infiniti/Lexus models of the same year were all at least 40% more with higher mileage and less transparent vehicle history. It wasn't a very difficult choice.

[dark0821]

I think this thread went off topic fast....

Personally I know someone who has a 2010 ML BlueTec as DD since new, no problem I have heard so far, and he drives alot, lives in Vancouver, works in Richmond... but once again, either me or the owner are mechanically inclined.

As for the discussion for used Euros, I agree with Westopher, I do not think anyone that can cash purchase a used E92 M3 will be unable to finance a F80 M3, in many cases the F80 will be cheaper, as it is under warranty/less maintenance etc etc

But 2 things you benefit getting in to a late game with previous gen Euros (at least from an enthusiastic POV)

1) You do not take the stupid depreciation buying new

2) On the market long enough to know its weakness which much can be solved mostly by going aftermarket (which will void your new car warranty), and also for those who research will be fully prepared of what he is getting himself into

[frozen]

Maybe they have the logic that they don't desperately to have the newest, best car so they lose 30k in the first 2 years of ownership?

Amazing logic, except for similar price you can get a well-equipped new Japanese car that will be much cheaper to maintain for years to come. In the end, car is just an emotional buy for many people and they desperately want the brand to please those who give no shit about. Please spare me the "not wanting to take a huge depreciation hit" reason :lol. They depreciate quickly for a reason. You save upfront buying used but lose more $ on maintenance down the road.

[westopher]

Yeah, but last I checked, some people like german cars. I could have got a new civic for the price of my old e36 but I guess I'm just trying too hard to be fakerich.
I bought my 07 gti in 2010 for 25% less than I would have paid for a new one.
I drove it for 3 years and sold it for the same price as I would have if it was a 2010, because they were the exact same car. I couldn't care less that someone drove it before me and it had nothing to do with not affording a new one. I bought a car I wanted for a price that was better than the other one that was newer. How is that complicated?

[Rallydrv]

Thanks for all the replys.

After owning Japanese cars, I fully know the reliability of thr brands. Have owned 4-5 over last 20 years.

I did expect that mb, will be more maintain know the higher cost of ownership.
Considering its fully covered till 2018 +cpo and getting option for full coverage for 3\160k at a discounted cost

This thread was not to compare German and Japanese reliability (apples and oranges). I was merely asking if anyone had exp. With bluetec and glk250 specifically.

Let's not get off topic.

Thanks

[Iron Chef]

There is soooo much wrong in this post I don't even know where to begin.

Perhaps your mistaken for the om642 V6 diesels in 09+ ML,GL,R class, E class which do have reliability issues relating to the urea injection and oil leaks. Turbo's are dead reliable and are almost never replaced unless it has had insufficient oil changes causing sludging.
DPF's are not commonly replaced and deffinatly not at 50km

In terms of the GLK, the chassis and electronics are reliable. The 4cyl om651 engine has only been out since 2013 and so far it's been pretty reliable. Only issues have been from the urea injection causing check engine lights but the major components like engine,trans , turbos are pretty solid.

there is deffinatly no doubt the cost of ownership and reliability of gas is way better then diesel no matter what brand you go with due to the new complex technology of urea injection to meet emission standards, he'll why do you think Volkswagen omitted it from there cars... Lol

I would summarize by saying the GLK250 is one of the few MB's I would recommend to buy.

The BlueTEC stuff is junk.....these are the words used by my father (Mercedes tech) as well as many others who work there.
If you get one, get full coverage for as long as you plan on owning it. Turbos are known to go. Oil leaks a plenty due to the placement of the turbo and high heat concentrations.
The DPF's are often replaced around 50k on the cars so if your buying used budget $4000ish to replace that as I do not believe it will be covered by warranty.

There are 11 TSB's out on them and 1 Recall so make sure that the car has been fully serviced and up to date before you buy otherwise you may end up with a lemon.

IMO I would not touch one with a ten foot pole but others have had decent experience with them, however they bough new and most are in another vehicle by now.

[Gululu]

I eat GLK/GLA and X4's every day of the week.
that feeling when you cut off a brand new Q3. Its priceless. And scars the other driver for live.
it is satisfying.

[frozen]

Yeah, but last I checked, some people like german cars. I could have got a new civic for the price of my old e36 but I guess I'm just trying too hard to be fakerich.
I bought my 07 gti in 2010 for 25% less than I would have paid for a new one.
I drove it for 3 years and sold it for the same price as I would have if it was a 2010, because they were the exact same car. I couldn't care less that someone drove it before me and it had nothing to do with not affording a new one. I bought a car I wanted for a price that was better than the other one that was newer. How is that complicated?

God, you aren't very smart are you? We are talking about overall reliability here. A couple of random dudes here and there having gone through trouble-free Euros mean jack shit. I seriously hope you don't go out praising the reliability of Euros based on your experience. How is that complicated?

[westopher]

You sound like a pretty ignorant asshole when you say people who don't buy new euro cars are just broke and trying to impress people.
You can go buy an acura, and the OP can buy the car he wants based on information from people that actually know things, instead of your opinion about how people spend their money.
A 2 year old euro car is going to be the exact same reliability as a new one if it was well kept for those 2 years. Especially looking at a car with a warranty being an option. Nobody said it was an Acura, nor did the op ask about them.

[Rallydrv]

I eat GLK/GLA and X4's every day of the week.
that feeling when you cut off a brand new Q3. Its priceless. And scars the other driver for live.
it is satisfying.

Gululu wtf r u taking about. They are no Chinese car brands in Canada, I can't imagine u driving anything else

[frozen]

You sound like a pretty ignorant asshole when you say people who don't buy new euro cars are just broke and trying to impress people.
You can go buy an acura, and the OP can buy the car he wants based on information from people that actually know things, instead of your opinion about how people spend their money.
A 2 year old euro car is going to be the exact same reliability as a new one if it was well kept for those 2 years. Especially looking at a car with a warranty being an option. Nobody said it was an Acura, nor did the op ask about them.

Did you just pull that out of your ass? I mean, did you actually fucking read what you just typed? You reek of euro fanboiness. Stick to driving your E36 and stop being monumentally stupid.

[westopher]

Lol you are a real fucking spazz eh? You think that 2 years of driving is going to equate to 20% of the purchase price maintenance increase? Can you even fucking math?

[yray]

Lol 2 years? Had to be courtesy car or employee car.

Get extended warranty if you're in for the long run.

[frozen]

Lol you are a real fucking spazz eh? You think that 2 years of driving is going to equate to 20% of the purchase price maintenance increase? Can you even fucking math?

lol Westopher, I think it's clear you are in the minority who seems to have unsubstantiated confidence in the reliability of Euros. Take a fucking deep breath, and try to think before digging a deeper hole.

[westopher]

I think you are completely misinterpreting what I said.
I never said european cars are reliable, especially new ones.
I said that buying a used european car has nothing to do with not being able to afford a new european car.
I also said a 2 year old european car isn't going to be less reliable than its identical 2 years newer model.
I think its clear that there were 2 different conversations happening.
Take a deep breath, and re read.

[frozen]

Look man, if you still don't understand after this post, I give up.

I'm talking about statistics here. Generally speaking, Euros are far more unreliable than its Japanese counterparts, thus the huge depreciation associated with them.

My point is, it makes no sense for someone to try and save $ buying used Euros because, on average, they will be paying for maintenance down the road. It's only an illusion that you are saving upfront, because you'll be paying later. There is a reason why people who can actually afford Euros buy new, then get the fuck out after warranty is over, not necessarily because they can't afford, but because it's not worth the pain and the time. The poorer just enjoy the trickle down effect of the richer getting rid of them, unfortunately many times not knowing the maintenance expenses required to maintain them.

2 years older car will be less reliable than its identical 2 years newer model, period. This seriously confuses me. It doesn't even matter whether it's Euros, Japanese or domestic, older cars will be more susceptible to issues.

Despite improvement in recent years, electrical problems continue to plague some euro cars. There isn't much you can do to prevent that with maintenance.

[Nlkko]

Man I didn't know I belong to the Euro-peasant-fanboy-trying-to-fakerich support group by buying a used Bimmer because I like its V8.:okay: :awwyeah:

[westopher]

Should have just bought an MDX and not been such a poseur.
Frozen, I understand what you are trying to say, but you are
A) generalizing that every euro car is unreliable, which is absolutely stupid.
B) Saying that a car will cost more in maintenance because its older, which it can, or can't. You say it definitively which is obviously wrong because all ownership experiences vary.
C) arguing to me that japanese cars are more reliable than european cars. Plenty of euro cars are pieces of shit. So are plenty of Japanese cars. And american cars. Not once did I mention any japanese car so I'm not sure the fucking point you are trying to make here.

Look at it this way AGAIN SINCE I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL EXPERIENCE BUYING A CPO GERMAN CAR
I bought my mk5 gti for 23k with 60k on it. 10k less than its matching counterpart that was brand new.
I owned it for 3 years and sold it for 13.5k. It was under warranty the whole time so I spend $0 on anything other than oil changes.
The same 09/2010 GTIs were selling for 13-15k at the same time I sold my car in 2013.
23-13.5k = 9.5k loss in a 3 year ownership
32k-15k =17k loss in a 3 year ownership
17k is more than 9.5k. So is it still the same cost to buy used? This isn't a one off, thats the way buying used cars works. Thats why people buy used cars. Would it have been different if I owned it for 20 years? Probably. Do you know how long the OP plans on owning the car? How much a new GLE is? (since the GLK is no longer made) How much he's paying? Of course you don't.

[yray]

Despite improvement in recent years, electrical problems continue to plague some euro cars. There isn't much you can do to prevent that with maintenance.


LOL all my euro had workmanship problems...

Only electrical issue was a shitty relay and dead batteries from sitting at the dealer for too long.

[kkttsang]

"Judging people does not define who they are ..... It defines who you are."

[meme405]

I know I am likely one who shouldn't talk here, but seriously guys?

Give it a rest, some people will buy euro cars, some will buy asian "imports", others will buy domestic. Speaking in broad generalizations doesn't help anyone.

Op came on asked a question about a specific car, now look at where this discussion has degraded to.

[Akinari]

I eat GLK/GLA and X4's every day of the week.
that feeling when you cut off a brand new Q3. Its priceless. And scars the other driver for live.
it is satisfying.
When you cut off a Q3 with your Escape while making BOV noises.

Whatever floats your boat I guess...

[Gucci Mane]

I know I am likely one who shouldn't talk here, but seriously guys?

Give it a rest, some people will buy euro cars, some will buy asian "imports", others will buy domestic. Speaking in broad generalizations doesn't help anyone.

Op came on asked a question about a specific car, now look at where this discussion has degraded to.

hush you. this is solid entertainment. :Popcorn

[jpark]

Dude asked for an opinion on a specific car, and you are just sitting there being completely irrelevant saying how used euros are for posers. Even if that was actually his motive, who gives a flying fuck. Answer his question and stop going off topic.

And you wonder why i don't post much on revscene anymore LOL

[C-unit]

shit..i just fall into the used euro fan boy catagory.

[frozen]

Should have just bought an MDX and not been such a poseur.
Frozen, I understand what you are trying to say, but you are
A) generalizing that every euro car is unreliable, which is absolutely stupid.
B) Saying that a car will cost more in maintenance because its older, which it can, or can't. You say it definitively which is obviously wrong because all ownership experiences vary.
C) arguing to me that japanese cars are more reliable than european cars. Plenty of euro cars are pieces of shit. So are plenty of Japanese cars. And american cars. Not once did I mention any japanese car so I'm not sure the fucking point you are trying to make here.

Look at it this way AGAIN SINCE I'M TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL EXPERIENCE BUYING A CPO GERMAN CAR
I bought my mk5 gti for 23k with 60k on it. 10k less than its matching counterpart that was brand new.
I owned it for 3 years and sold it for 13.5k. It was under warranty the whole time so I spend $0 on anything other than oil changes.
The same 09/2010 GTIs were selling for 13-15k at the same time I sold my car in 2013.
23-13.5k = 9.5k loss in a 3 year ownership
32k-15k =17k loss in a 3 year ownership
17k is more than 9.5k. So is it still the same cost to buy used? This isn't a one off, thats the way buying used cars works. Thats why people buy used cars. Would it have been different if I owned it for 20 years? Probably. Do you know how long the OP plans on owning the car? How much a new GLE is? (since the GLK is no longer made) How much he's paying? Of course you don't.

Holy fuck. Why are sharing your detailed ownership experiences? In the end it's just one sample and you can't seem to wrap your head around this. When people make a decision to buy a car, they look at the overall reliability associated with that brand. Your experience is absolutely pointless because I can count off top of my head at least several people who had nightmares owning a used euro. But I won't say euros are shit because they represent only a few cases. The truth is, on average, euros will likely suffer more reliability issues than Japanese cars. Older cars, on average, will suffer more reliability issues.

So no, generalizing isn't stupid, because using big data is what people should do when making a decision, not based on a few cases.

Your A, B, and C sound absolutely stupid seriously. No wonder you're a chef.

This thread wouldn't have strayed off so badly if this euro fanboy hadn't chimed in and started spewing nonsense. Also, OP had already made up his mind anyway. As I had mentioned earlier, car is an emotional buy so he'll do whatever the fuck his "heart" tells him to do :lol

[Jmac]

Fuck off with the personal attacks. It's a discussion forum, people have varying opinions. Deal with it.

[oldsnail]

every car is meant for someone. everyone has different taste. if everyone buys Japanese imports, the world will be boring.

maintenance on my wife cost more than any car ive owned

[Rallydrv]

every car is meant for someone. everyone has different taste. if everyone buys Japanese imports, the world will be boring.

maintenance on my wife cost more than any car ive owned

Is she Japanese or euro?

[meme405]

Is she Japanese or euro?

Lol was just about to ask that.

[Akinari]

Probably Italian :lawl:

[oldsnail]

Is she Japanese or euro?

she is actually a hybrid , asian/ euro

[bcuzracecarz]

Not to get involved in this cuz ain't nobody got time for drama but....

I just bought my pre owned e92 M3 because I fucking wanted one, could I have afforded to lease a new m3? probably, but I didn't want that car, I wanted a big greasy noisy v8 with a 6 speed manual and a million smiles per gallon. I sat there, looked over the history of the car as a whole, made my decision, then went and hunted for the exact one I wanted. Now if some guy wants to go buy an old golf r32 over the new r, let him have it, it comes down to this... It's not your money, not your decision, let guys do what they want... Who gives a flying rats ass what 4k on maintenance is a year when your losing that much on depreciation in one year anyways! Lol and that's IF IF IF something bigger goes wrong. And the same can be said for euro, Japanese, Asian, or spaceships

Okay I'm done, back to the gas station for another 150km full tank smiling the whole way

[acurael]

Holy fuck. Why are sharing your detailed ownership experiences? In the end it's just one sample and you can't seem to wrap your head around this. When people make a decision to buy a car, they look at the overall reliability associated with that brand. Your experience is absolutely pointless because I can count off top of my head at least several people who had nightmares owning a used euro. But I won't say euros are shit because they represent only a few cases. The truth is, on average, euros will likely suffer more reliability issues than Japanese cars. Older cars, on average, will suffer more reliability issues.

So no, generalizing isn't stupid, because using big data is what people should do when making a decision, not based on a few cases.

Your A, B, and C sound absolutely stupid seriously. No wonder you're a chef.

This thread wouldn't have strayed off so badly if this euro fanboy hadn't chimed in and started spewing nonsense. Also, OP had already made up his mind anyway. As I had mentioned earlier, car is an emotional buy so he'll do whatever the fuck his "heart" tells him to do :lol

Lol you are an idiot. Where is your data? You have to show numbers then. Reliability/cost of ownership for each vehicle. Show me. You sound absolutely stupid.
I have a 2010 GLK saved big money buying used. no issues/problems. So should I have bought new?
And you or someone else was saying you are a poser to buy a used euro. You should only buy new? That makes no sense at all. Never buy a used car then period.

[bossha]

Holy fuck. Why are sharing your detailed ownership experiences? In the end it's just one sample and you can't seem to wrap your head around this. When people make a decision to buy a car, they look at the overall reliability associated with that brand. Your experience is absolutely pointless because I can count off top of my head at least several people who had nightmares owning a used euro. But I won't say euros are shit because they represent only a few cases. The truth is, on average, euros will likely suffer more reliability issues than Japanese cars. Older cars, on average, will suffer more reliability issues.

So no, generalizing isn't stupid, because using big data is what people should do when making a decision, not based on a few cases.

Your A, B, and C sound absolutely stupid seriously. No wonder you're a chef.

This thread wouldn't have strayed off so badly if this euro fanboy hadn't chimed in and started spewing nonsense. Also, OP had already made up his mind anyway. As I had mentioned earlier, car is an emotional buy so he'll do whatever the fuck his "heart" tells him to do :lol

Why dont you just shut the fuck up and go buy your brand new euro you fucken goof