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Rechargable Impact Gun/Wrench
thumper
07-11-2016, 07:03 AM
Looking to be a rechargeable one since i don't have a compressor (or a garage) (edit: for changing wheels (thx fliptuner)). Recommendations?
Also, what is the deciding factor on whether to get a 1/4" or 1/2" drive? voltage?
The only thing I have to go by is this old article:
Impact-Wrench Comparison: Seven Electric Models Tested - Gearbox - Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/impact-wrench-comparison-seven-electric-models-tested-gearbox)
fliptuner
07-11-2016, 07:50 AM
I'm ASSuming this is for lugnuts. In which case, I'd say Milwaukee 1/2".
thumper
07-11-2016, 08:04 AM
any reasons for why the milwaukee? i was looking at it at home depot and it was a $500 unit :eek:
Dragon-88
07-11-2016, 08:08 AM
Not cordless, but CT always has these on sale for $50.. Its more than strong enough to remove lugs. I also have a smaller impact gun for other jobs, but I mainly use this on for tire swaps.
Mastercraft 7.5A Impact Wrench, 1/2-in | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-7-5a-impact-wrench-1-2-in-0543182p.html#srp)
thumper
07-11-2016, 08:12 AM
i'm not sure if using an extension cord is feasible because i don't have a garage/driveway so i'm often doing this on the street :(
fliptuner
07-11-2016, 08:22 AM
Milwaukee and Makita always rate at the top of cordless impact guns. I use Makitas all day at work and the only reason I chose it over Milwaukee, is cause it's slightly lighter.
Wait for a sale at kms.
threezero
07-11-2016, 08:26 AM
The cordless ones will they be powerful enough to break axle nuts?
fliptuner
07-11-2016, 08:28 AM
Im pretty sure they will, unless they're seized.
Wait for mg1 to reply. He pretty much has the whole Milwaukee line.
snowball
07-11-2016, 09:49 AM
1/2" milwaukee 18v impact if i were you
The 1/4" are useless for lugnuts, you'll probably want 3/4" if breaking axle nuts... Upsized adaptors don't do much, and don't use it in the engine bay when working with gas components.
They are around 400 but half of the cost is the batteries so if you buy more tools that use the same batteries it's worth the price. A tool-only 1/2" impact is only $250.
see.lai
07-11-2016, 09:57 AM
Spend $600-$700 and you can grab yourself a nice Snap-On one.
(or just use air tools...)
teggy604
07-11-2016, 10:02 AM
I use the Mastercraft 20V Li-Ion 1/2 drive impact wrench for many years now and its pretty good. Its not super strong like the cord impacts, or air impacts but for changing wheels and minor work its good enough. Plus they go on sale once and a while. I got mine for 100 bucks.
thumper
07-11-2016, 10:03 AM
1/2" milwaukee 18v impact if i were you
The 1/4" are useless for lugnuts, you'll probably want 3/4" if breaking axle nuts... Upsized adaptors don't do much, and don't use it in the engine bay when working with gas components.
They are around 400 but half of the cost is the batteries so if you buy more tools that use the same batteries it's worth the price. A tool-only 1/2" impact is only $250.
i don't own anything milwaukee so i would need to get one with the battery :o
so this is my only option?
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.12--inch--m18-high-torque-impact-wrench-square-driver-with-ring-kit.1000667131.html
Reeyal
07-11-2016, 10:03 AM
I would recommend 1/2" drive and up. Anything lower doesn't have enough torque to matter on car metal components. When buying an cordless impact wrenches, look at their max torque rating. Caution on the safer side by having more ft-lbs.
I have a Dewalt High Torque 700 ft-lbs, and it has served me well. No problem with axe nuts.
fliptuner
07-11-2016, 10:42 AM
i don't own anything milwaukee so i would need to get one with the battery :o
so this is my only option?
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.12--inch--m18-high-torque-impact-wrench-square-driver-with-ring-kit.1000667131.html
Like I said, kms, especially when they're on sale.
https://m.kmstools.com/cordless-power-tools-46000000/milwaukee-46060000/m18-46060200/
https://m.kmstools.com/milwaukee-m18-1-2-impact-wrench-108504
thumper
07-11-2016, 10:49 AM
wow. $250 vs. $500... wth that's a huge difference.
when does kms have their sales? i've never been there before... is it a store or manufacturer sale?
snowball
07-11-2016, 10:53 AM
Every month They have different sales at KMS, KMS is like a tool only version of HD, also note that home depot has that same combo for 279... So you might want to look up the difference between the 500 and 250 dollar model, ie/ torque differences
My friend has an 18v Milwaukee Fuel 1/2" impact gun and he likes it a lot. I'm pretty sure it's one of his favorite tools in his toolbox lol.
I use a Mastercraft 20V brushless 1/2" personally since I mostly only use it to swap wheels.
Gululu
07-11-2016, 11:43 PM
which brand is the best for cordless 1/4" drive?
immorality
07-12-2016, 06:28 AM
I've got a 1/2" Milwakee 18v that I like, but I usually reach for my 3/8" Milwakee 18v, it's got 3 torque settings, 35, 75, 230ftlb., and that versatility makes it my go to.
I have the 1/2 inch Milwaukee M18 Fuel impact wrench. 1100 ft lbs of torque. That's a shit load of torque. It is a beast. If you don't have any Milwaukee batteries, just buy the kit. It comes with two batteries, a charger, and a really nice case. It is hands down my favourite tool. If you want, you can try mine out. Just pm me.
As for torque settings, If I'm not feeling lazy, I attach torque limiting extensions onto the tool.
If you're not in a hurry buy it on-line. Go to Milwaukee Canada's website and click on the buy on-line link.
If you need it soon, KMS or Summit Tools. If you have a flyer with the tool on sale, take it to Home Depot where they will beat that price by 10%. Unfortunately, I have never seen the 18 volt Fuel model on their shelves.
EDIT: found link.
https://www.milwaukeetool.ca/power-tools/cordless/2763-22
This is the place where I got mine.
https://www.jccayer.com/checkout.php?ItemAdded=89
$379.00
Total, including taxes, is $398 shipped to door (free standard shipping).
thumper
07-12-2016, 07:45 AM
This is the place where I got mine.
https://www.jccayer.com/checkout.php?ItemAdded=89
$379.00
total, including taxes, is $398 shipped to door (free standard shipping).
MG1... i don't see this price when i go on their site :confused:
okay. so this is what i should be getting:
Milwaukee 2763-22 M18™ FUEL™ 1/2 in. High Torque Impact Wrench w/ Friction Ring Kit
https://www.milwaukeetool.ca/power-tools/cordless/2763-22
https://cdn.milwaukeetool.com/~/media/Images/Power%20Tools/Cordless/2763-22/2763-22A.jpg
comes with:
WHAT'S INCLUDED
(1) M18 FUEL™ 1/2" High Torque Impact Wrench with Friction Ring (Bare Tool) (2763-20)
(2) M18™ REDLITHIUM™ XC 4.0 Extended Capacity Battery Pack (48-11-1840)
(1) M18™ & M12™ Multi-Voltage Charger (48-59-1812)
(1) Carrying Case
The M18™ FUEL 1/2-inch High Torque Impact Wrench with Friction Ring Kit features the most powerful cordless wrench in its class, delivering up to 700 ft. lbs. of maximum fastening torque, 1,100 ft. lbs. of nut-busting torque and up to 2X more runtime. The REDLITHIUM™ XC 4.0 Extended Capacity battery pack delivers more work per charge and more work over pack life than any other battery, while the REDLINK PLUS™ Intelligence allows the operator to choose between two fastening modes with Milwaukees proprietary DRIVE CONTROL™ feature. This 18V wrench offers quick, tool-free socket changes with a 1/2-inch friction ring anvil, and the kit includes two REDLITHIUM™ XC 4.0 Extended Capacity battery packs, a multi-voltage charger and a carrying case.
Delivers up to 700 ft. lbs. of maximum fastening torque; up to 1100 ft. lbs. of nut-busting torque and up to 2X more runtime
POWERSTATE™ brushless motor outpowers competitors yet runs cooler with no wearable components
REDLINK PLUS™ Intelligence allows the operator to choose between 2 fastening modes with Milwaukees proprietary DRIVE CONTROL™
REDLITHIUM™ XC 4.0 battery pack provides superior pack construction and electronics and performance to deliver 2X more runtime
1/2-inch anvil with friction ring for fast and easy socket changes
JCCAYER $479+shipping
https://www.jccayer.com/Milwaukee-2763-22-M18-FUEL-1-2-in-High-Torque-Impact-Wrench-w-Friction-Ring-Kit/p/7909
KMS TOOLS $479.95 (on sale)
https://www.kmstools.com/milwaukee-m18-fuel1-2-impact-wrench-kit-119329
HOME DEPOT $569, but MG1 says they will knock off 10% on top of a price match?
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.12--inch--m18-fuel-high-torque-impact-wrench-with-friction-ring-kit.1000859537.html
hud 91gt
07-12-2016, 07:59 AM
Just like any cordless tool, unless your using it on a weekly basis the battery is going to shit the bed on you. Take it into consideration before you buy. Maybe the new lithium batteries are better, but still are meant for constant use.
hud 91gt
07-12-2016, 08:01 AM
On that note. If you already have a cordless drill, I suggest buying that same brand which uses the same batteries so you can make sure they are getting constant use.
thumper
07-12-2016, 08:18 AM
On that note. If you already have a cordless drill, I suggest buying that same brand which uses the same batteries so you can make sure they are getting constant use.
unfortunately i can't. all my cordless stuff is ryobi lithium, and the few reviews i've read on their impact gun are not great :(
i use my ryobi lithium stuff not on a regular basis. it's been 4 years and the batteries they came with seem okay? as in they seem to hold their charge for what i need to get done around the house... is there something i should be looking out for?
teggy604
07-12-2016, 09:16 AM
The Milwaukee guns are nice, but for $500 bucks just to change lug nuts and minor work seems overkill. Plus you can easily over torque bolts and nuts if you are not careful.
StylinRed
07-12-2016, 09:36 AM
http://www.taff-shop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/8/5861070000000.jpg
can't go wrong with Fein ze german powah
u can order it from amazon.ca too but they're rarely in stock
or get a Metabo or Festool, iirc festools are made by Fein or at least festools multimaster is... anyway ze germans!
Reeyal
07-12-2016, 09:50 AM
Just like any cordless tool, unless your using it on a weekly basis the battery is going to shit the bed on you. Take it into consideration before you buy. Maybe the new lithium batteries are better, but still are meant for constant use.
Yes, I would highly recommend lithium ion batteries as well. I used to have NiCAD, and every year (sometimes couple of years), I would have to replace them. Lithium batteries have been good for me so far.
IMASA
07-12-2016, 09:53 AM
I have one of these, more useful than a impact IMO. I use it to take bolts off in the engine bay (ie: valve cover, blow off valve, intercooler t-clamps, battery tie downs, under tray bolts for oil change, etc)
http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/6b/6b10e815-482e-44da-aead-371d4652518d_400.jpg
I have a corded impact which I rarely use unless I'm doing some suspension work.
For wheels, I do 3 cars twice a year, I just use a breaker bar to break loose the nuts and this tool can spin the lugs off and on, use the breaker to tighten and torque wrench.
I would love to get a nice Milwaukee 18V impact, but I don't think I would use it enough to justify the cost.
MG1... i don't see this price when i go on their site :confused:
Fricken hell........... it was the price I posted, early this morning. Maybe JC Cayer changed the price as of this morning?
Home Depot does not carry the item, so no matching is possible.
As mentioned by another member, it's not worth the 500 bucks. At 400 bucks, it's a deal. The tool is amazing and you'd be the envy of those who go to the track.
You might want to check out the Milwaukee Service Centre right by Byrne Road.
MILWAUKEE ELECTRIC TOOL (CANADA) LTD
9000 BILL FOX WAY, UNIT A103 BURNABY, BC V5J 5J3 CANADA
They carry refurb and new tools. It's the candy store for all things Milwaukee. Nothing but Milwaukee. Wall to wall, floor to ceiling. A must see store, but not to buy as prices are, meh.
threezero
07-12-2016, 10:34 AM
Good point about the battery. I want to invest in one but I don't work on the car all the time. Sometimes I go weeks without touching it Han sometimes I spent a week wrenching on it everyday. Want something that has enough torque to break apart axle nuts, do suspension work.
Should I go for a cord one instead? Are they usually better than cordless and cheaper? I have access to enough power cable to wrap around the world at work so that not really a problem.
snowball
07-12-2016, 11:45 AM
If you keep the battery topped up on a lithium ion you won't have any issues. I go months at a time without using/charging and the battery is still strong after 4 years.
snowball
07-12-2016, 11:48 AM
Also, you already bought everything ryobi, just buy everything milwaukee/dewalt/bosch/makita from now on depending on what brand of impact you're buying lol
AzNightmare
07-12-2016, 02:12 PM
I never used any of the better brands like Milwaukee or Makita, but I can tell you Ryobi cordless is no good for breaking lug nuts.
I bought a Ryobi impact driver from Home Depot, rated at 1500 inch lbs. of torque, (125 ft), and it wasn't able to break loose my lug nuts. I was looking for something inexpensive and simple to use, specifically just for lug nuts, and it wasn't able to get the job done. My car lugs are torqued at 95.
I can imagine the corded ones offering a lot more power, or maybe the expensive $300-500 cordless ones that would offer enough power, but it's probably more than what you need.
I still break loose my lugs with a breaker bar, and just use my drill to remove the lugs.
snowball
07-12-2016, 03:57 PM
Even the Milwaukee rated at 750 ftlbs supposedly only gets ~250 useable torque
The max torque ratings for that 125ftlb ryobi are under no-load which means it needs to be spinning freely already... which in the case of torqued lug-nuts is completely useless.
AzNightmare
07-13-2016, 11:54 AM
Even the Milwaukee rated at 750 ftlbs supposedly only gets ~250 useable torque
The max torque ratings for that 125ftlb ryobi are under no-load which means it needs to be spinning freely already... which in the case of torqued lug-nuts is completely useless.
Yeah, I figured that much after using it. It's like whp vs bhp. It's never as powerful as it says on the box.
Unless you're spending a few hundred on a good drill with high torque rating, those $50-100 ones are not going to be useful for anything other than being used like a regular power drill.
thumper
08-27-2016, 05:20 PM
Not cordless, but CT always has these on sale for $50.. Its more than strong enough to remove lugs. I also have a smaller impact gun for other jobs, but I mainly use this on for tire swaps.
Mastercraft 7.5A Impact Wrench, 1/2-in | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-7-5a-impact-wrench-1-2-in-0543182p.html#srp)
if anyone is looking, this is on sale right now.
TouringTeg
08-27-2016, 08:58 PM
$60 not bad at all. I have been wanting one for a while. I will pick one up. Cheers
lowda9
08-27-2016, 09:09 PM
Ive heard good things about this 1/2" drive cordless impact gun. Its what i would get over the other brands as i think IR is more geared towards automotive jobs.
http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/am-en/products/tools/Iqv-cordless-tools/iqv20/w7150-1-2-20v-high-torque-impactool
godwin
08-27-2016, 10:26 PM
Best battery system to invest is dewalts hands down, because all new batteries are backward compatible.. also they are on sale so often!
Good point about the battery. I want to invest in one but I don't work on the car all the time. Sometimes I go weeks without touching it Han sometimes I spent a week wrenching on it everyday. Want something that has enough torque to break apart axle nuts, do suspension work.
Should I go for a cord one instead? Are they usually better than cordless and cheaper? I have access to enough power cable to wrap around the world at work so that not really a problem.
extracrunchie
08-29-2016, 05:21 AM
Ive heard good things about this 1/2" drive cordless impact gun. Its what i would get over the other brands as i think IR is more geared towards automotive jobs.
http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/am-en/products/tools/Iqv-cordless-tools/iqv20/w7150-1-2-20v-high-torque-impactool
https://youtu.be/tzqYnZ2DUa4
Here's a good comparison and review on Milwaukee fuel and Ingersoll 1/2 inch drive
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Damn, gotta get that boot for my Milwaukee.
extracrunchie
08-31-2016, 03:16 PM
Damn, gotta get that boot for my Milwaukee.
$50 bucks is kinda steep
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TouringTeg
08-31-2016, 07:36 PM
My wife picked me up the Canadian tire $60 corded impact last night. I used it today to swap wheels. Works great!
^ I just bought it today for garage use--havent got to use it yet. glad to hear you like it. I'm still rocking pneumatic at work, but will be looking into getting an electric gun so i can stop lugging an airline around :lol
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