[NotRevSeen]

Do sellers just shoot for the moon on prices and hope they can lure in some rich sucker who has more money than cents??? The car is nice don't get me wrong as I do like Subaru's as a former owner of an STi. The thing is this is a RHD which automatically devalues the car and an obvious import to boot. Who knows what kind of accurate history the car has and I'll bet dollars to donuts the car has been "driven" if you catch my drift (no pun intended)

The fact the seller puts this little tidbit Please don't email me and compare my car to other GC8s or 2.5rs of this year and message me asking if I got my price wrong makes me think he knows it's overpriced and that he's getting a ton of responses from people telling him how ridiculous his pricing is. I get that some cars do have that "it" factor hence the strong resale values like 993TT but not a damn Impreza.

I'm a Subaru fan boy but for $115,000 I'm buying an E30 M3 or Cayman GT4 without a second thought.

Any RS'er want to defend this listing and explain why the seller of this car isn't on crack? Maybe we can blame the low CDN dollar on this one cause it'd only be 5 figures instead of 6 @ $88,000 USD.

http://i.imgur.com/dAssowL.jpg

[!Aznboi128]

I saw it as 15k, thought it was an amazing deal good deal but for 115 :okay:

[GabAlmighty]

lol, what in the absolute fuck?

[threezero]

Call yourself a Subaru fanboy yet don't know the rarity of the car why 22b is so special. Iirc there is no lhd 22b. With how limited this car is I'm not surprise the seller think it is worth that much. Will it sell? Probabaly not, but that's not the point.


Btw this was posted in craigslist "good buy" thread at least one time lol.

On rhd devaluing car. Have you heard of the r34 gtr? Rhd only and ummm it can sometimes fetch more than a modern day r35 gtr.

[mos_skeeto]

The 22b is a unicorn at this point. While there are other cars I would buy with that money, I don't see a problem at all.

[Nabatron]

^115,000 for a 22b is outrageous

[thumper]

cheaper than in australia... $130-140k cdn after conversion at current exchange rates.

1998 Subaru Impreza WRX 22B STI GC8 22B Manual AWD (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Subaru-Impreza-1998/SSE-AD-4111505/?Cr=0)

[threezero]

^115,000 for a 22b is outrageous

Outrageous because there are other 22b selling for a lot cheaper? Or outrageous because you won't pay for it?

It's a unicorn. Therefore the unicorn owner can price r whatever they want. Again, doesn't mean that it will sell. Without anything else on the market you simply cannot make a comparison

^^ there a market sample, apparnatly it's a steal.

Work like new Porsches selling for above Msrp too. Stupid for sure but it is what it is

[thumper]

this one was a bargain for the mileage and one owner history? $120-130k cdn converted from british pounds

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1998-subaru-impreza-22b-sti-

[thumper]

The thing is this is a RHD which automatically devalues the car and an obvious import to boot.

i thought this only came in RHD format?

and here is some info on the car for those thinking wtf...

https://youtu.be/1rKsC3y3v00

[Qmx323]

Wiki says theres like 400 of these in the world.

I get that it's the initial shock of seeing "Subaru" and "$115,000" in the same ad, but damn this thing is rare as fuck.

[Leung_Dog]

Is it expensive? yes. But you think a E30 M3 is worth $115,000 and a 22B is not? Why? IMO any E30 M3 shouldn't cost more than 50k (unless its a M3 EVO which puts us in the same category as the 22B ironically). and at that price its still too much. Is it an amazing car. Yes. Is it better than a 1M or the new M2 in terms of performance, comfort, practicality? NO. But i can see why it demands 50k because of nostalgia and driving feel(raw and visceral). There is only 400 of these in the world and that number is only gonna go down. I think its super expensive but I don't think the seller is out of line at all.

[pherio]

So looking at the OP and the similarities of the post content, is this thread going to be "The Official 22B" thread?

[mos_skeeto]

This car is so good in Gran Turismo

[6o4__boi]

lol op got rekt

[twitchyzero]

how did that ITR purchase go :troll::okay:

[underscore]

Yes it's an interesting car and yes it's rare, but just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. From what I can tell the only differences are the front clip, wing, widened stance and bigger wheels?

Either way it's gonna get sold to some fanboy with more money than brains who will let it sit in the garage until it sells again. There's a lot of neat cars out there but the fanboy taxes on some of them are fucking absurd.

[thumper]

okay here is a "cheap" one from back in 2013 built from a stripped shell using oem spare/aftermarket parts, so not worth as much as an unmodified/original 22b. asking price was £22,000, which is roughly $40k cdn at today's rates... sigh. i was too busy gawking at nissan skyline GT-R prices and missed out :cry: :

Subaru Impreza 22B STi #377 - Subaru Enthusiast Forum - ScoobyNet.com (http://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444/961250-subaru-impreza-22b-sti-377-a.html)

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x46/Richy22B/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20WORK-LAPTOP/17112012%20-%20Scooby%20Photos/DSC02715.jpg

[white rocket]

how did that ITR purchase go :troll::okay:

Sounds like OP is more of 2.5RS kinda guy :troll:

[Qmx323]

Yes it's an interesting car and yes it's rare, but just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable. From what I can tell the only differences are the front clip, wing, widened stance and bigger wheels?

Either way it's gonna get sold to some fanboy with more money than brains who will let it sit in the garage until it sells again. There's a lot of neat cars out there but the fanboy taxes on some of them are fucking absurd.

That's just cosmetic, apparently the engine is 2.2L vs the 2.0l and Jalopnik said it hits 0-60 in 4.7.

Official numbers say 280PS (276ish HP) but thats due to the gentlemans agreement in Japan at the time to not advertise higher figures than that. The article I read said the figures are around 300-320hp.

I might be wrong though as I have about 10 minutes worth of experience with this car :badpokerface:

[threezero]

Apprantly 22b engine has internals share by no other Subaru

[twitchyzero]

this is really no different than a R34 Z-Tune or a NSX-R
upper-echelon status aka not for mere mortals

Rare R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R Nismo Z-Tune Is Selling At Over $575,000 (http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/rare-r34-nissan-skyline-gt-r-nismo-z.html)
Honda NSX Type R for sale (http://jdm-expo.com/nsx-sale/316-type-r-sale.html)

[boostfever]

came here only to fail the OP..
mission accomplished

[tegra7]

Op weren't you looking for an itr?

[bomberR17]

I had a chance to bid on a 22B 2 years ago at a japanese auction. Sadly I lost by far. Final bid was around $5,500,000 which is around $65k CAD. Then add taxes, compliance, and all that extra stuff needed, it's gonna be around $90k landed.

[swfk]

Saw one in person in HK. Even the fender liners were shiny!

Photo from friend's fb
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11182245_10153298495204282_1413521540593035911_n.j pg?oh=444e3b973a8a327abaf5be30a33ac496&oe=58224FA9

[threezero]

Subaru don't make many unicorn like this. As a Subaru fanboy this should be THE holy grail car.

[cheesyhoney]

Subaru don't make many unicorn like this. As a Subaru fanboy this should be THE holy grail car.

exactly

sure, the price is steep, but is in no ways absurd. People spend this kind of money on less rare cars all the time.

[swfk]

Can someone change OP's title to:

Subaru "fanboy"

[Reeyal]

Yup, the 22b is a Subaru unicorn:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/holy-grail-subaru-impreza-22b-sti-sale-160014674.html
This legend—a 1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi. It’s been called the “holy grail” of the Subaru world, and considering only 424 were ever built, they’re nearly as hard to get hold of.

[TouringTeg]

It's collectors who are driving this market. Take a popular sports car and make a limited edition with low production and you have a recipe for high prices.

[R. Mutt]

Yea I posted this cl ad in another thread. The price is higher than it should be for a 22B even though they are super rare. Granted I do forsee the price climbing as the years go by because it's one of the few limited edition Japanese cars out there that pays homage to actual motorsport success. For Mitsubishi enthusiasts the Tommi Makinen is held in a similar light, again paying homage to their success in WRC for those 3 or 4 years. But Mistusbishi was at least smart enough to make way more so people could actually enjoy them.

My issue with the 22B is on paper it's the GC8 to have but in reality there were other unique GC8 models that out performed it. Evo magazine (UK) did an AWD comparison of the best Japanese cars at the time and the RB5 STI (Richard Burns) was way better than the 22B on a track. To the magazine's surprise they found it to understeer and generally lacked the poise, stability and confidence inspiring feel of the RB5.

I look at the 22B today and part of me is like wow, still has presence and just knowing that the chances of seeing one on the road makes it all the more special. Growing up seeing and seeing a 22B on the road made you feel special as a kid like you saw something few others would in a lifetime. It's the nostalgia that really does it for me. But today, part of me is like those fenders are so aggressive they should've put more rubber to balance it out. I can't help but think it needs to be modified but the reality is if someone buys a 22B, they aren't going to touch a single thing. Kind of sad imo because it's got a lot of potential.

[Hehe]

I think it's a fair price for a very rare car. Low 400s ever built with a staggering number either on track or straightline (0-60 in 4.5sec with "only" 280HP :fuckthatshit: I call BS on that HP number)

And I'm not into car investment, but this is one of those cars that would only grow in value. Think 110k is expensive? 10yrs later it'll probably be double that and I wouldn't be surprised. Subaru is not known for building specialty cars. I mean, they haven't built anything like these in decades and likely won't build for a few more unlike say Ferrari which comes up with F50, Enzo, LaFerrari on a regular basis.