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Timpo
08-18-2016, 02:47 PM
Some people say kit cars are illegal in Canada, which I know for sure it's false because I've seen so many kit cars driving around.

According to Transport Canada, kit cars must NOT be built by professionals. So I guess some dude has to be building one in his backyard.
Also the kit cars must NOT be imported built, it must be imported piece by piece, and built it in Canada, but not by professionals.

I'm a bit confused by this :confused:

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp2436-rs200804-menu-685.htm

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp2436-rs200804-faq-689.htm

Why don't they allow professionals to build kit cars? Isn't it more safe?

Also I don't understand the difference between importing a already built kit car & importing car kit(parts) and build in Canada at somebody's backyard. Because in the end, you are getting the exact same car.

Zordon
08-18-2016, 08:34 PM
I'm not entirely sure why they have such strict rules about kit cars but from experience, I know you cannot bring in a kit car and try to register it. You also cannot bring in a kit car, disassemble it and then try to register it again.

Traum
08-18-2016, 08:39 PM
If only Transport Canada would view the Ariel Atom as a kit car... :tears:

Timpo
08-18-2016, 10:30 PM
I'm not entirely sure why they have such strict rules about kit cars but from experience, I know you cannot bring in a kit car and try to register it. You also cannot bring in a kit car, disassemble it and then try to register it again.

yeah I tried Googling it and saw some Canadian kit car related forums.

Basically, you can NOT import a kit car and register it here.
But you CAN import a kit and build in Canada.
And the kit can NOT be built professionally, it must be amateur built by someone's backyard.

bcuzracecarz
08-18-2016, 10:52 PM
I believe it's based on a percentage built by the owner of said car, a company can build x percentage, but the new registered owner must have a certain build percentage of the car for it considered to be legit

Ford_Fanatic
08-18-2016, 10:56 PM
My experience is only with Cobras but you can buy Superformance Cobras brand new from a Canadian dealership. In the case of my Cobra, it was brought in under the 15 year rule. In fact most of the replica Cobra owners I've talked to got their cars the same way.

Timpo
08-18-2016, 11:07 PM
If only Transport Canada would view the Ariel Atom as a kit car... :tears:

Does it have to be Ariel Atom?

I just Googled around, and looks like you can buy similar kit car.

DF Goblin
DF Goblin - Low cost, high performance kit car (http://www.dfkitcar.com/)

http://i.imgur.com/xe796bI.jpg

DJC V-Storm
V-Storm Kit Car (http://www.djckitcars.co.uk/)

http://www.djckitcars.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/IMG_3433.jpg

Dove Racing Exobusa
DOVE RACING | KIT CAR DEALER IN TEXAS | KIT CARS FOR SALE IN TEXAS | TRACK CARS (http://www.doveracing.net/)

http://www.exosportscars.co.uk/images/exo_15/exobusa_960.jpg

MEV/Exomotive Rocket
Exomotive - US Manufacturer of Exocars & Kit Cars | MEV Rocket (http://exomotive.com/rocket/)
Low Cost Kit Cars - MEV Ltd. (http://www.mevltd.co.uk/kit-cars)

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/RoadTrackRace/MEV%20Rocket%20M350/MEVRocketM350atTrax006.jpg

Traum
08-18-2016, 11:11 PM
Does it have to be Ariel Atom?

Because this:

http://cdn.johnywheels.com/2015/11/06/topgearjeremyclarkson-l-0ec346173bc28362.jpg

:lawl:

Timpo
08-18-2016, 11:11 PM
My experience is only with Cobras but you can buy Superformance Cobras brand new from a Canadian dealership. In the case of my Cobra, it was brought in under the 15 year rule. In fact most of the replica Cobra owners I've talked to got their cars the same way.

oh...ok so once the kit car is 15 years or older, is it exempt from Transport Canada rules?
Is it like free pass into the country?

Timpo
08-19-2016, 03:08 AM
Because this:

http://cdn.johnywheels.com/2015/11/06/topgearjeremyclarkson-l-0ec346173bc28362.jpg

:lawl:Ariel Atom is available in Canada.

Here's the Ariel Atom dealer in Canada
Roadsport Ariel (http://www.roadsportariel.com/)

Traum
08-19-2016, 10:00 AM
Ariel Atom is available in Canada.

Here's the Ariel Atom dealer in Canada
Roadsport Ariel (http://www.roadsportariel.com/)
I've checked with these guys before. They specialize only in the track version of the car, and that version is not street legal in Canada. They even include a line at the bottom of the page to say this:

The Ariel Atom is not legal for street use in Canada.

probably because they get enough emails asking about the street legality.

Timpo
08-19-2016, 10:55 AM
I've checked with these guys before. They specialize only in the track version of the car, and that version is not street legal in Canada. They even include a line at the bottom of the page to say this:



probably because they get enough emails asking about the street legality.

oh ok I didn't see the part where they tell you it's not street legal.

What kind of testing does it take to prove it's street legal? Because my amateur guess says it shouldn't be THAT hard.

Similar cars have passed street legality test in Canada.

Super 7 Cars Incorporated - Homepage (http://www.super7cars.com/)
http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/image005.jpg

Campagna Motors T-REX® and V13R® the Original 3 wheeler. Like No Other since 1988 (http://campagnamotors.com/)
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201303/2013-campagna-t-rex-16s_600x0w.jpg

Polaris ATV RANGER RZR General Snowmobile Slingshot - Official Website CA CA (http://www.polaris.com/en-ca)
http://polaris.hs.llnwd.net/o40/slg/2016/img/vehicle/overview/en-us/standard-features-slingshot-sl.md.jpg

Timpo
08-19-2016, 10:58 AM
My experience is only with Cobras but you can buy Superformance Cobras brand new from a Canadian dealership. In the case of my Cobra, it was brought in under the 15 year rule. In fact most of the replica Cobra owners I've talked to got their cars the same way.

I just did a Google research and looks like Superformance is an automotive manufacture, not a kit car maker.
They build Shelby Cobras under official license by Carroll Shelby.

Traum
08-19-2016, 11:04 AM
What kind of testing does it take to prove it's street legal? Because my amateur guess says it shouldn't be THAT hard.

Similar cars have passed street legality test in Canada.

That I dunno. But from the superficial research that I've done, I think the manufacturer needs to play a major part in assuring the vehicles meet Canadian safety standards. TMI AutoTech is the licenced US manufacturer for the Ariel Atom, and I suspect they'd need to be willing play to make it happen.

I agree that passing street legality test in Canada shouldn't be too tough. The Factory Five 818 is street legal in Canada because F5 did the paperwork to ensure it so.

BoostedBB6
08-19-2016, 11:05 AM
If only Transport Canada would view the Ariel Atom as a kit car... :tears:

Roadsport Ariel (http://www.roadsportariel.com/)

You can buy the car complete in Canada but not road legal. Because you can also buy them in the US and they are complete cars you can import one. You can do a u-build registration. There are a couple around Canada like this.

yeah I tried Googling it and saw some Canadian kit car related forums.

Basically, you can NOT import a kit car and register it here.
But you CAN import a kit and build in Canada.
And the kit can NOT be built professionally, it must be amateur built by someone's backyard.

Reason why it must be home built and not by a pro is because when you have a professional build a car they become an auto manufacturer and it would require a whole different set of rules like crash testing and such.

fliptuner
08-19-2016, 11:40 AM
Yes please:

http://www.kitcar.com/KitCarsForSale/porspdstr-EMC/EMC-rear-3a-540x420.jpg

hud 91gt
08-19-2016, 11:52 AM
There's a big black dude always rolling around in a cream suit and a 356 in my area. Such a class act even with the Webers spittin' and fartin' #dreamcar #evenifitisakit

Timpo
08-20-2016, 04:54 PM
That I dunno. But from the superficial research that I've done, I think the manufacturer needs to play a major part in assuring the vehicles meet Canadian safety standards. TMI AutoTech is the licenced US manufacturer for the Ariel Atom, and I suspect they'd need to be willing play to make it happen.

I agree that passing street legality test in Canada shouldn't be too tough. The Factory Five 818 is street legal in Canada because F5 did the paperwork to ensure it so.

I didn't know that Factory Five kits are Canadian safety standard compliant.
Not just 818, but looks like all their kits are accepted by Transport Canada. (I just checked their website)