[Gululu888]

Ever wonder where all the local brand new King Ranchers, Lauriats, Raptors, Platinums, or other luxury pickups all go to?
illegal exports and smuggling is no longer exclusive to new GLS' or Range rovers.
There is high demand for american pickups and muscle cars in china. who knew?


this is how to transporting pickups across the pacific ocean
http://i.imgur.com/hDLILmC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ynCEyPe.jpg

remember this one, Brown Brothers? hehe. they are in china now.
http://i.imgur.com/CcZDR8D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TUuwT0h.jpg

from cam clark. remember who it was sold to?
http://i.imgur.com/2A3V8Pv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/krZff5f.jpg

remember these ones, west coast ford?
http://i.imgur.com/sulWZoP.jpg

new owner approves
http://i.imgur.com/uzXN7oQ.jpg

gotta pass the chinese inspection
http://i.imgur.com/vhKxbLF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mpOIIXA.jpg

all the way exported from edmonton! kentwood ford! in China roads now.
http://i.imgur.com/PfHAnt6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7ZpQalt.jpg

this batch of shipments all lined up for Chinese grey market consumers
http://i.imgur.com/3QfTQxO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lcET1CC.jpg

[fliptuner]

NA trucks going to China. Who cares unless they were stolen?

[originalhypa]

Wow!
So Ford, having much pride, good F150 not like Cheby!
Not to crash, c-lai still like Marcede Bens!!

La~

[blkgsr]

who cares, bought in canada and taxes paid (for once) in canada

hope the chinese government confiscates them all

[nns]

Ever wonder where all the local brand new King Ranchers, Lauriats, Raptors, Platinums, or other luxury pickups all go to?
No. I've never wondered this.

[TOPEC]

who cares, bought in canada and taxes paid (for once) in canada

hope the chinese government confiscates them all

these look like they were brand new bought from dealerships with everything paid for and exported, but for the past how ever long, people were "leasing" or "financing" GL(now GLS) and land rovers along with other high end vehicles, and then reporting them to be stolen after driving them for a month or 2. what happened to the vehicles? they were being shipped back to china and sold at a premium but still considerably less than buying brand new from within china. the seller gets paid $10K CAD cash, while ICBC pays the dealer for the costs of the stolen vehicle. that is y now a days buying any new vehicles that are high in demand, u'll need to sign papers agreeing u will not be exporting the vehicle within the first year of ownership, which imo doesnt do much to deter this from happening.

[E60_M5]

who cares, bought in canada and taxes paid (for once) in canada

hope the chinese government confiscates them all

I heard from a friend that if the vehicle is exported within how many days (I think he said 90 days), you can claim the tax back.

[twitchyzero]

F-series aren't sold in China? I bet they fetch a ridiculous premium.

[tofu1413]

yeah, lots of ecoboost mustangs and ford explorer sports are being exported to china as well.


Ford canada aint too happy about it..... but the dealers DGAF

[flagella]

Happens to Toyota Sienna as well.

[noclue]

I wonder if you could flip the upcoming raptor in China even though they are going to sell a Chinese domestic market one.

[asian_XL]

why do we care about what mainlanders like? they have bad taste and pee in the public anyway, no surprise they buy stupid trucks from Canada.

[Manic!]

why do we care about what mainlanders like? they have bad taste and pee in the public anyway, no surprise they buy stupid trucks from Canada.

This is Canada everyone pee's in public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=7luCZtu3018

[Mr.Money]

did jackie chan say chinese made trucks might crash and explode? :troll:

[J____]

F-series aren't sold in China? I bet they fetch a ridiculous premium.

buying one of those here you can get a brand new 911 in vancouver

[Verdasco]

all my mainlander rich friends LOVEEEE muscle cars.....

they just love every car that is American lmao

[Hondaracer]

my question is how do you get out of the vehicle once it's been backed into the seacan? lol

[SumAznGuy]

I am guessing the trucks were pushed in with a forklift or something.
The wood beside the tires are to keep the truck from hitting the sides.

When we still had the HST, my friend was exporting X5's and ML's to China.
When the cars were bought, he had to pick them up with a tow truck and was not allowed to drive them around.

[SumAznGuy]

Wait, why does Gulululemon have a new account?
Did his old account get banned?

[blkgsr]

I heard from a friend that if the vehicle is exported within how many days (I think he said 90 days), you can claim the tax back.

now that's bull shit if it's true

[Traum]

that is y now a days buying any new vehicles that are high in demand, u'll need to sign papers agreeing u will not be exporting the vehicle within the first year of ownership, which imo doesnt do much to deter this from happening.
How can a dealership / manufacturer do this? Once a vehicle has been purchased and paid for, it becomes a property of the new owner and I can't imagine how the dealership / manufacturer can continue to exercise any influence on the new owner.

Of coures, they can refuse to sell to anyone whom they suspect will be exporting the vehicle to an out of country gray market. But IMO, that is a completely ineffective measure.

all my mainlander rich friends LOVEEEE muscle cars.....

they just love every car that is American lmao
"Patriotic" Chinese nationals are supposed to say America is an evil empire that continually atempts to sabotage the Great China. Especially given the recent South China Seas spat, they are supposed to ban / boycott any American made products.

Oh wait... That patriotic Chinese fellow gotta answer a call on his brand new iPhone7 and take a sip of his $tarbucks coffee before continuing to toot his anti-America rhetoric.
:lawl:

[E60_M5]

now that's bull shit if it's true

Just looked it up and its true. Here the form to fill out, seem pretty easy to do.

https://www.sbr.gov.bc.ca/documents_library/forms/0355mvfill.pdf

They are having international students or non residence to buy these vehicles, have them exported within 30 days. PSt is refunded after filling out this form and providing the proper documents, seems pretty easy and straight forward.

[Mr.Money]

^ so you're saving about 3-4 grand in taxes?

[E60_M5]

^ so you're saving about 3-4 grand in taxes?

you are looking at around 50-65k (plus taxes) for those trucks (depending on trim and options). So it would be over 4k after its been exported. I am not sure if there is a way to get the GST back.

[underscore]

So Canadian dealers are making money selling these things (local economy and all that) but we don't have to deal with shitty American trucks running around? This is a win-win.

[noclue]

How do you know if the cars are not declared stolen? Do the exporter keep VINS?

[brrrz]

Oh wow did I LOL when I saw this title. . .

This is a huge problem right now at Ford. Base EcoBoost Mustangs, base Ford Explorers, and F150's are the hot items. So the question why does the dealer care? Well they don't really care but Ford Canada cares and will fine the dealer the full price of the vehicle if they are caught making deals to known exporters. There is even a black-list for people who are known exporters who will never be able to buy another new Ford again. But they don't care they are already back in China.

Its not like these exporters are sneaky about they will order the same car from 6 separate dealers in the same name. Or they will walk in and say they want to buy a Mustang but if you give them a good deal they will buy 5. Like who does that? Haha. Now they are getting better so they will buy two mustangs then get their "friend" to come in and buy two and his friend and so on. We had a deal where a guy ordered so many Ford Explorers that he forgot how many he bought and forgot to pick up one of them. We called him and he was already back in China.

[maxxxboost]

Calgary man finds toughest part of owning 2009 Ford F-150 truck is finding replacement part - Business - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business/ford-f150-auto-parts-obsolete-go-public-1.3746577)

How about a 9 year old F150

Makes you wonder how long manufactures supply parts for

From another thread but very fitting. At least if the part breaks on these imported trucks, they can buy new trucks or make the replacement part themselves.

[OurManInVanc]

They were buying Ford Explorers last year, September/October 2015, as they were in high demand.

Earlier this year it was base Mustangs (4 cyl)

Right now it's luxury F150's

The second vehicle in the picture grey F150 with sport wheels, looks like it has a tow hitch added to it, so I'm guessing that was a demo or even a used vehicle

[Galactic_Phantom]

Joined 8 and a half years ago and this is your first post?

[6o4__boi]

We had a deal where a guy ordered so many Ford Explorers that he forgot how many he bought and forgot to pick up one of them. We called him and he was already back in China.


so its already paid for?

can i have it?

[VR6GTI]

Oh wow did I LOL when I saw this title. . .

This is a huge problem right now at Ford. Base EcoBoost Mustangs, base Ford Explorers, and F150's are the hot items. So the question why does the dealer care? Well they don't really care but Ford Canada cares and will fine the dealer the full price of the vehicle if they are caught making deals to known exporters. There is even a black-list for people who are known exporters who will never be able to buy another new Ford again. But they don't care they are already back in China.

Its not like these exporters are sneaky about they will order the same car from 6 separate dealers in the same name. Or they will walk in and say they want to buy a Mustang but if you give them a good deal they will buy 5. Like who does that? Haha. Now they are getting better so they will buy two mustangs then get their "friend" to come in and buy two and his friend and so on. We had a deal where a guy ordered so many Ford Explorers that he forgot how many he bought and forgot to pick up one of them. We called him and he was already back in China.
I know an exporter for luxury vehicles, he did the same thing but with a fully loaded range rover. He had purchased so many vehicles he couldn't keep track. Hes banned from all BMW locations in the lower mainland he has now moved onto victoria. He was paying neighbors $500 for there driver license numbers to take to the dealerships for purchases.

[Traum]

Damn man... I need to get into this car exporter business...

[TouringTeg]

I know an exporter for luxury vehicles, he did the same thing but with a fully loaded range rover. He had purchased so many vehicles he couldn't keep track. Hes banned from all BMW locations in the lower mainland he has now moved onto victoria. He was paying neighbors $500 for there driver license numbers to take to the dealerships for purchases.

I am in Victoria. He can contact me if he needs me to buy some cars lol

[TOPEC]

Damn man... I need to get into this car exporter business...

u dont need to be exporting cars to make money, anything u can get ur hands on that can be exported to china will make money. u just need to pay attention to the trend. a list of items from the past few years include:

cars
cherries and no blueberries
king crabs and geoducks, and now dungeness crabs
i think now maple syrup is starting to become a hit in china

[Traum]

LOL~

The difficult thing to pull off is of course the people network. Esp with doing business in China, who you know is 90% of the problem.

[Speed2K]

Oh wow did I LOL when I saw this title. . .

This is a huge problem right now at Ford. Base EcoBoost Mustangs, base Ford Explorers, and F150's are the hot items. So the question why does the dealer care? Well they don't really care but Ford Canada cares and will fine the dealer the full price of the vehicle if they are caught making deals to known exporters. There is even a black-list for people who are known exporters who will never be able to buy another new Ford again. But they don't care they are already back in China.


It's almost like when the dollar was at par to the US some manufacturers in the US forbade their dealers from selling to us Canadians, except this sounds like it's on a much bigger scale.

[marksport]

I wonder what's an F450 platinum pickup worth in China? Gotta be huge since they won't fit in a container as the f450 are even wider than f350 dually.