[z3german]

Seeking some general legal advice, really appreciate you guys reading it.

on Friday, Sept 16 I went to Metrotown ICBC to do the steps required to get my international license. The rep asked for my license before doing the knowledge test, so I handed over my Sri Lankan license assuming it was just for information purposes.

After passing the knowledge test I ask for my license back, she refuses saying that because I passed it must be destroyed. I questioned it a bit, and she said I have to book my road test online, and I can drive with the BC international license when I pass. I VERY reluctantly trusted her, and left it at that.

I went home and to my dismay (my fault for not asking in all honesty) the earliest road test is 3 MONTHS AWAY! I honestly can not wait that long because I have to be able to drive in Sri Lanka, as I am going there first week of December. I am getting married, and I NEED to be able to drive.

I am quite certain it is illegal (especially for a private company like ICBC) to confiscate and destroy another nations property. I tried searching it up but all that comes up is stuff regarding terrorism forfeiture etc.

Anyways, I went back to Metrotown ICBC to speak with a manager, she was rude, told me I am rushing it too much, I should post pone my wedding, I dont have to drive in Sri Lanka, the license has went to head office and I can't do anything about it. I crafted a letter to give her in the event that she was not cooperative basically stating that it is illegal to confiscate another nations property, and that I would be pressing charges if a suitable solution can not be agreed upon (Obtaining original license back, or setting priority with road tests before my fly date to Sri Lanka, in the event of a failed test, priority must be given to me for tests until pass. Reason being, if I had my Sri Lankan license, and I failed the road test, I would still be able to drive in Sri Lanka...)

Anyways, I did some brief searching on it and can see people posting it is illegal, but I am having trouble finding the exact section which shows this. I will be calling ICBC head office later today to see if they can come up with a solution for me before perusing legal action.

Do you guys think I have a case? Do you guys have any suggestions as to what I can do instead?

Thanks for reading

[nsx042003]

a bit confused about your overall intention. You have sri lanka driver's licence, you will be going there to drive....why did you need to go ICBC for international licence? Besides, ICBC doesn't issue international licence....BCAA does.

So what did you tell ICBC when you went in?

NVM: i'm guessing you need a BC licence and you went in to do that and ICBC told you to get International driver's licence to drive in sri lanka but failed to tell you how long it would take. Try booking your roadtest in Victoria to speed things up? Or go to ICBC everyday and hope no one show up for a road test

[z3german]

a bit confused about your overall intention. You have sri lanka driver's licence, you will be going there to drive....why did you need to go ICBC for international licence? Besides, ICBC doesn't issue international licence....BCAA does.

So what did you tell ICBC when you went in?

I have a job offer that requires me to drive, that's the only reason I went to get it. I don't even own a vehicle here.

When I went in I told them I want to get my international license so I can drive here. Didn't go into detail about my future plans with my wedding and all.

[yray]

You pretty much have to wait for the next road test appointment here.

I always thought IDPs have to be issued at home country and cannot be issued aboard.

As for your sri lankan license, go back to sri lanka and report you lost your license. Not legal but only way with your situation.

[originalhypa]

We bitch and moan about foreign licenses all the time on RS. About how you can come here and drive on your own nation's license, and the issues this causes on the roads.

You can fail me all you want for saying this, but I'm glad they're making it hard for foreign drivers to come and go as they please.

basically stating that it is illegal to confiscate another nations property, and that I would be pressing charges if a suitable solution can not be agreed upon

You're not a lawyer, and you can't press charges. Only the crown can do that. I recommend that you speak to an actual lawyer about this, because honestly, coming on RS for legal advice is not a good idea.

Good luck with your wedding.

[meme405]

You cannot hold two drivers licenses at the same time. The rules do not allow for that. So as soon as you got your BCDL she was mandated to remove your other DL.

Proof:

Moving from outside Canada (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/moving-bc/Pages/Moving-from-another-country.aspx)

When you qualify for your new B.C. driver's licence, you’ll need to surrender your previous licence to ICBC. B.C. law requires that you only have one driver's licence.

It's not a good position you are in. But My recommendation is to look out to places like abby or chilliwack to try and do your test sooner. Anything beyond that you will need to hire a lawyer, but I don't know what they will do, I don't think ICBC has done anything wrong. Maybe they should have explained it more clearly, but maybe you also should have read up and actually realized what is required of you to get your license here?

[z3german]

Thanks for all the advise.

I was prepared to face the reality that I really might be blowing smoke here with the threat of legal action. Only did it to scare em a bit and maybe get the situation in my favor, I readily accept the consequences of my oversight.

I wish they were a bit more clear with me when I first handed the license over. Even after I questioned it when I asked for it back, they should honestly just give me the options to take back the license and invalidate the passed driving test. Wishful thinking is all haha.


You cannot hold two drivers licenses at the same time. The rules do not allow for that. So as soon as you got your BCDL she was mandated to remove your other DL.

Proof:

Moving from outside Canada (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/moving-bc/Pages/Moving-from-another-country.aspx)



It's not a good position you are in. But My recommendation is to look out to places like abby or chilliwack to try and do your test sooner. Anything beyond that you will need to hire a lawyer, but I don't know what they will do, I don't think ICBC has done anything wrong. Maybe they should have explained it more clearly, but maybe you also should have read up and actually realized what is required of you to get your license here?

Thanks for the tip, I will definitely look into it

[z3german]

We bitch and moan about foreign licenses all the time on RS. About how you can come here and drive on your own nation's license, and the issues this causes on the roads.

You can fail me all you want for saying this, but I'm glad they're making it hard for foreign drivers to come and go as they please.



You're not a lawyer, and you can't press charges. Only the crown can do that. I recommend that you speak to an actual lawyer about this, because honestly, coming on RS for legal advice is not a good idea.

Good luck with your wedding.

I went to get my BC license only so I can drive and not use the whole "Oh I thought my Sri Lankan license is good for a year here" like I heard in the news about all these China drivers doing that and ICBC defending them.

Just was looking for general advise, to see if its even worth perusing to a lawyer. I have come to the conclusion that it is not, and I am happy with the resolutions you all have given me.

[inv4zn]

First thing, you can keep checking the ICBC website for an earlier test date. They do come up as people cancel.

Second, with the 7L license you have, can you not get an international driver's permit from BCAA? I donno if they issue for non-class 5, but you can ask.

Thirdly, if you back for your wedding, can't you retake the Sri Lankan test first thing you arrive back in Sri Lanka?

[fsy82]

Your best bet is to claim you lost your Sri Lanken license and they will issue a new one to you. My wife did this when ICBC took her New Zealand license. She has both right now and shows the BCDL when requested and uses the New Zealand when she goes back.

[meme405]

Your best bet is to claim you lost your Sri Lanken license and they will issue a new one to you. My wife did this when ICBC took her New Zealand license. She has both right now and shows the BCDL when requested and uses the New Zealand when she goes back.

I wouldn't openly admit this. What you are doing goes against BC law, and actually invalidates your BCDL. You are essentially driving here illegally if you hold a License anywhere else.

Don't ask me why they do it like this, but that's how they do it.

[smoothie.]

cause its the easiest way to prevent prohibited driving or something

[z3german]

Blowing smoked worked haha, ICBC manager called me today really apologetic about everything.

Road test scheduled next friday.

Thanks for all the insight guys!

[nsx042003]

So what is ICBC's policy then? Glad you are able to get it back.

The notion that you cannot have another driver's licence means they acknowledge other country's licence here and let you drive with it? I understand it if you hold another province's DL, but other countries as well?

[zulutango]

(4) If the applicant for a driver's licence has at any time before making the application held a driver's licence issued under this Act or in another jurisdiction, the applicant must, at the time that he or she is issued a driver's licence under this Act, surrender the last driver's licence or duplicate of it held by him or her, unless the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia on cause shown to the corporation's satisfaction dispenses with its production.
(5) At the same time that he or she has a driver's licence issued under this Act, a person must not have a driver's licence issued by another jurisdiction or have another driver's licence previously issued under this Act.

[zulutango]

Your best bet is to claim you lost your Sri Lanken license and they will issue a new one to you. My wife did this when ICBC took her New Zealand license. She has both right now and shows the BCDL when requested and uses the New Zealand when she goes back.


As a former Kiwi who has friends in my former career still active there, your wife is breaking the laws in both NZ and Canada. Should she ever become involved in any crash/accident etc, her insurance coveerage will NOT be valid in BC....and likely also in NZ. She is probably commiting fraud if she signs any statement denying having another licence. Her BCDL is NOT valid and was fraudlently issued here as she lied to the ICBC staff when they specifically asked her if she had a DL issued in any other jurisdiction and she said no. :rukidding:

[zulutango]

BTW fsy82 ...tell your GF that she is a "blimin Bludger"....and you are a "Bush Lawyer"...:) and don't you "Spit the dummy" over this....and you and she are "Skites" for boasting about it.

[murd0c]

Blowing smoked worked haha, ICBC manager called me today really apologetic about everything.

Road test scheduled next friday.

Thanks for all the insight guys!

you better pass the test now after all of this!!

[6793026]

To be VERY honest I have someone who works in ICBC and I also know someone who was in your situation so I can shed some light.

BC (and other parts of the world) wanted to eliminate the risk of having multiple identities of 1 individual; think about it, before the amazing technology, you could get away with a lot of things. eg// you get 12 pts removed from say speeding and tickets in BC, next time you get pulled over, you would just being out an Alberta license and start fresh.

This was one of the key concerns and reason for the rule.

In your shoes, I fully agree with you 10000% ICBC shouldn't have the right to remove another license from another country. You would be in shit if you didn't pass the Van. license and you won't be able to drive when you go home.

What I don't understand is why they didn't do a direct swap is beyond me. Say you have a class 6 motorcycle license, don't you automatically get a license in BC. Or if you're a US drivers license, you get a direct swap.

[zulutango]

A DL is not a right...so are not entitled to one wherever you want. If you want a BC one to continue legally driving in BC as a BC resident, then you surrender your out of BC DL...if you do not want to surrender it, then you do not get a BC DL...that simple. If you become a Canadian citizen then you surrender your former residence pasport.

I agree 100% with your statement concerning the reasons for the rule. We know people here who got too many tickets here so they got a "fake" Alberta DL to avoid the prohibitions and fines..

As someone who slso trains new BC residents in both car and motorcycle, there are many diferences between the driving skills and requirements from different countries. Our requirements are much higher (you may find that hard to believe) than those of many places. To issue a DL without having to have some sort of assessment of your ability to drive and comply with our laws, is asking for disaster.

[320icar]

If you become a Canadian citizen then you surrender your former residence pasport.

That's not true. You can have dual citizenship with lots of countries and Canada. Just ask half my family who are both British and Canadian citizens

[nsx042003]

It's one thing to confiscate another province's DL, because of said problems with prohibitions and fines, but confiscating a non canadian licence is beyond me. It's quite stupid actually. All ICBC need to do is not recognize non canadian DL and be done with this non sense.

I also think it's all entirely based on what agent you got when you go in, they have repeatedly asked if i had any other DL everytime i renew my licence and I would tell them I have a Chinese one, they just say ok and nothing else.

[zulutango]

That's not true. You can have dual citizenship with lots of countries and Canada. Just ask half my family who are both British and Canadian citizens


Do they retain both British AND Canadian valid, current passports and are permitted to use both of them? I know landed immigrants who retained their US citizenship, lived in Canada BUT had a US passport, not a Canadian one.

[zulutango]

It's one thing to confiscate another province's DL, because of said problems with prohibitions and fines, but confiscating a non canadian licence is beyond me. It's quite stupid actually. All ICBC need to do is not recognize non canadian DL and be done with this non sense.

I also think it's all entirely based on what agent you got when you go in, they have repeatedly asked if i had any other DL everytime i renew my licence and I would tell them I have a Chinese one, they just say ok and nothing else.

Actually what the LAW says is...
(4) If the applicant for a driver's licence has at any time before making the application held a driver's licence issued under this Act or in another jurisdiction, the applicant must, at the time that he or she is issued a driver's licence under this Act, surrender the last driver's licence or duplicate of it held by him or her, unless the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia on cause shown to the corporation's satisfaction dispenses with its production.
(5) At the same time that he or she has a driver's licence issued under this Act, a person must not have a driver's licence issued by another jurisdiction or have another driver's licence previously issued under this Act

[inv4zn]

^You missed the point.

What nsx is saying is that the law itself is stupid and unreasonable in certain circumstances.

If ICBC just didn't recognize any other driver's license from another country, then they wouldn't need to confiscate it, and problem would be solved.

If that were the case, people visiting would have to apply and get a fresh BCDL (with tests and everything), or a temporary IDP from their home country.

[320icar]

Do they retain both British AND Canadian valid, current passports and are permitted to use both of them? I know landed immigrants who retained their US citizenship, lived in Canada BUT had a US passport, not a Canadian one.

Yes and yes.

Canada and the UK accept dual citizenship (also called “dual nationality”). A person may hold both citizenships and can carry both British and Canadian passports if they so desire. Canadians will not lose their Canadian citizenship by taking another nationality.

[yray]

Do they retain both British AND Canadian valid, current passports and are permitted to use both of them? I know landed immigrants who retained their US citizenship, lived in Canada BUT had a US passport, not a Canadian one.

Because if they were to enter the US with a Canadian passport (if they had one) they would be in for an asshchewing session with US CBP.

US law never prohibits nor allows dual citizenship.

[zulutango]

I know that Brits have to surrender their Brit licence as I have had many who were getting their BC DL and had to do the class 5 road test.---most recent was last week.

[rriggi]

I remember ICBC agent asked me if I had another license when I was renewing my BC DL. I said yes and I literally expected ERT to storm the ICBC office from the way this guy started freaking out. He demanded I surrender it and started to raise his voice, called his manager over and explained that yes I do have one, I dont use it here, I dont even have it with me in the country...

Got my licensed renewed 5 minutes later and was on my way....

[kross9]

now the question is are you a PR of canada OP and why can you not use a IDL for your job?

vast majority of jobs will accept a IDL as a valid DL.

Example we work at a shop we have a aussie who came to work with us and hes on a IDL

[underscore]

BC (and other parts of the world) wanted to eliminate the risk of having multiple identities of 1 individual; think about it, before the amazing technology, you could get away with a lot of things. eg// you get 12 pts removed from say speeding and tickets in BC, next time you get pulled over, you would just being out an Alberta license and start fresh.

This was one of the key concerns and reason for the rule.

In your shoes, I fully agree with you 10000% ICBC shouldn't have the right to remove another license from another country. You would be in shit if you didn't pass the Van. license and you won't be able to drive when you go home.

Why not? It has the same risks as someone having a license from another province.

What I don't understand is why they didn't do a direct swap is beyond me. Say you have a class 6 motorcycle license, don't you automatically get a license in BC. Or if you're a US drivers license, you get a direct swap.

I believe they do, but only with countries that have a known equivalent license (ICBC should have to confirm the license is valid with that country as well). Given that there are nearly 200 countries in the world I don't expect ICBC to be aware of the testing procedures used in every single one and know whether those tests are equivalent to a BC test or not.

We have enough shitty drivers here as it is, if people could just swap over any old license then someone who couldn't pass the BC test could just get a fake license from some random ass country, tell ICBC it's legit and swap it for a real BC license.

[zulutango]

The point is that the law says foreign DLS will be surrendered when you are applying for a bc dl...t doesn't say only surrender the ones the law in BC recognizes.

[quasi]

Because if they were to enter the US with a Canadian passport (if they had one) they would be in for an asshchewing session with US CBP.

US law never prohibits nor allows dual citizenship.

I'm not saying you're wrong but what are you basing this on? I only ask because my mom has Canadian/US Dual Citizenship. My Grandmother was a US Citizen, my mother was born in Canada and lived in the US for 4 years as a kid but has spent the majority of her time here. She didn't become a US Citizen until she was 50 years old. Since obtaining it she's traveled to the US with her Canadian Passport many times (She has both) and never had an issue. What you're suggesting has not been my mothers experience at all.

[fsy82]

As a former Kiwi who has friends in my former career still active there, your wife is breaking the laws in both NZ and Canada. Should she ever become involved in any crash/accident etc, her insurance coveerage will NOT be valid in BC....and likely also in NZ. She is probably commiting fraud if she signs any statement denying having another licence. Her BCDL is NOT valid and was fraudlently issued here as she lied to the ICBC staff when they specifically asked her if she had a DL issued in any other jurisdiction and she said no. :rukidding:

Her NZ license is valid till 2020. Its not like anything would have changed if ICBC took it away. She still can legally drive in NZ with her NZ license. ICBC doesnt notify your home country that they took your license.

To me this is one the dumbest laws ICBC has. She travels between countries holding both a CDN and NZ citizenship.

[Zedbra]

now the question is are you a PR of canada OP and why can you not use a IDL for your job?

vast majority of jobs will accept a IDL as a valid DL.

Example we work at a shop we have a aussie who came to work with us and hes on a IDL

ICBC also demands that if you are living in Canada longer than 6 months, you must get a BC Driver's licence. The hard part is if you are going through immigration, where it can take years to become a PR.

My wife went through all this same BS about taking the licence etc. At the time, we needed her licence to complete her immigration process as it was one of the two remaining valid documents, so she was able to keep it.

We went through more BS in that her country's licence was issued for 50 years - yes, they don't believe in bureaucratic money scams like 5 year renewals. Her licence had three languages on it, including French. Their only two 'official interpreters' for her language had not been heard from in many months and they did not want to accept the French 'Valid until', even though hey - it's one of our official languages.

ICBC's initial rebuttal was: "How do we know that this doesn't say that you have had your licence revoked for 50 years?" Yeah, when I got to spoke to the manager I asked them how many countries that he knows of that issues a licence to say that you don't have a licence? And besides, it says it's valid right there in three other languages. He had a mush more level head and accepted her licence, as I had mentioned that the Federal government has accepted it to allow her to become a citizen.

So even after supplying documents that showed my wife had gone 15 years without any accidents or claims - all officially translated by her embassy into English, the same woman that initially didn't accept her licence also wouldn't give her the ten year clear status because 'she didn't want to'. I get it that there are laws to sustain for the better of safety etc - but at the same time, there are some people making calls at ICBC that can also mess with people's livelihoods - and non discriminate laws should apply to them as well.

/rant

[zulutango]

Her NZ license is valid till 2020. Its not like anything would have changed if ICBC took it away. She still can legally drive in NZ with her NZ license. ICBC doesnt notify your home country that they took your license.

To me this is one the dumbest laws ICBC has. She travels between countries holding both a CDN and NZ citizenship.


As a matter of interest, did she tell ICBC that she had an active NZ licence when she applied for her BC one. IF she did, the law does not permit her to legally have a BC licence AND her NZ one. If she lives in BC for more than 3 months she must get a BC DL....
There is a limit for using your New Zealand driver licence and IDP

All countries have limits on how long you can use your New Zealand driver licence or IDP before you must get a local driver licence. In most countries, you’ll need to get a local licence if you are staying for over 12 months.
From the NZ Transport website...

[fsy82]

As a matter of interest, did she tell ICBC that she had an active NZ licence when she applied for her BC one. IF she did, the law does not permit her to legally have a BC licence AND her NZ one. If she lives in BC for more than 3 months she must get a BC DL....
There is a limit for using your New Zealand driver licence and IDP

All countries have limits on how long you can use your New Zealand driver licence or IDP before you must get a local driver license. In most countries, you’ll need to get a local license if you are staying for over 12 months.
From the NZ Transport website...


Intially they made her surrender her NZ license when she had a PR. Even after she told them she still needs it cause she was going back to NZ. They issued her BC one but they took her NZ. She went back to NZ to work and was required to have a valid license and in NZ they didnt accept her BC so she got her NZ one again. At the time it was valid till 2020 and she has not surrendered that one.

She doesnt use it here either only her BC one.

[Sango]

Do they retain both British AND Canadian valid, current passports and are permitted to use both of them?...

This depends if the country they are from allows dual or more citizenships.

A person from Canada applying a US Citizenship can have both. A person from US applying a Canadian Citizenship cannot have both as US does not recognize this and will lose their US Citizenship; an exception would be if it was through marriage.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html


Because if they were to enter the US with a Canadian passport (if they had one) they would be in for an asshchewing session with US CBP.

US law never prohibits nor allows dual citizenship.

In a way that's true, but it depends on the border person if they are having a good day or not.

I recall my friend's father who is has both US and Canadian citizen who crossed went to the US border and presented both passports. CBP asked him, which one do you want to be? He answered US, so the officer informed him to just show the US next time and not both.

On the side, if the person has a Nexus or EDL once it is scanned in at the sensor before to approach the booth, the CBP for either Canada or US, will see all the citizenship(s) you have on the computer.

[swiftshift]

OP is the boogyman #Inb4hall0ween XD

[meme405]

Intially they made her surrender her NZ license when she had a PR. Even after she told them she still needs it cause she was going back to NZ. They issued her BC one but they took her NZ. She went back to NZ to work and was required to have a valid license and in NZ they didnt accept her BC so she got her NZ one again. At the time it was valid till 2020 and she has not surrendered that one.

I'm still amazed that you would come onto an open forum and willfully tell others that someone you love is doing something illegal.

We have explained to you what your wife is doing goes against BC Law and invalidates her BCDL. Essentially she is driving here illegally, it doesn't matter how or why she was allowed to do what she did in NZ to get her DL again, BC Law is very clear.

But keep doing what you are doing, and keep telling the world about it, god forbid the day she gets into an accident and someone comes back to what you have written here and her insurance is deemed void. Then you can come on here and cry to us about how unfair it is, and how she is such a good driver, and ICBC is the devil.


She doesnt use it here either only her BC one.

This is exactly the reason ICBC doesn't like people having two independent licenses. Because she can go to NZ, get a DUI on her NZ license, rack up 20 speeding tickets, lose her license there, and then come back to BC and continue driving on her BC license as if nothing ever happened. The system ICBC is trying to enforce means that you are accountable for your actions elsewhere once you come back home. AKA you can't go run over someone while driving drunk in a third world country and then come home and continue as if nothing happened.

I highly suggest you and your wife go speak to a lawyer or ICBC to figure out a legal way of her driving in NZ as necessary. I am sure they have a procedure in place for people like you. Or you can continue doing what you are now, but be warned, I am certain they will not look kindly on it if and when they find out. Just looking quickly I am 99% sure your wife should have just gotten and IDP. She would need to renew it every year, but it's 25 bucks.

[6793026]

so the loop hole is this; as per an ICBC rep, go back to the country you got your license and ask for a replacement saying you lost it.

Get it re-issued and you're on your way.
ICBC is the sole provider, I wonder if another province in Canada does the same shit.

[meme405]

so the loop hole is this; as per an ICBC rep, go back to the country you got your license and ask for a replacement saying you lost it.

Get it re-issued and you're on your way.
ICBC is the sole provider, I wonder if another province in Canada does the same shit.

That's not a loop hole to the law.

It's a loop hole to get your foreign license back, but you are still breaking BC Law.

Guys this isn't that complicated: If you have a BC License and also are holding another license, you are breaking BC Law. Doesn't matter how or why you have both licenses.

The proper method to drive in another country is to go to BCAA and get an IDP. BCAA issues these to allow residents of BC to drive in other countries legally using the IDP and your BCDL. If you go read the rules that you signed when you got your License, (that yellow slip of paper), it states clearly that while you hold your BCDL you are not permitted to hold a license to any other place.

[originalhypa]

The proper method to drive in another country is to go to BCAA and get an IDP.

I think ICBC is where you get IDP. Every time you renew your insurance.

:heckno::heckno::heckno:

[Raid3n]

IIRC IDP is issued by BCAA

[meme405]

I think ICBC is where you get IDP. Every time you renew your insurance.

:heckno::heckno::heckno:

No it's not.

https://www.bcaa.com/trip-planning/international-driving-permit

[originalhypa]

right over your heads.......


IDP
IDP = In Das Pooper. Slang for anal intercourse.

"Dude, she was hot!"
"Did you IDP?"

Urban Dictionary: IDP (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=IDP&utm_source=search-action)



It's a joke about ICBC sticking it to us.


I'll see myself out now.

[fsy82]

I'm still amazed that you would come onto an open forum and willfully tell others that someone you love is doing something illegal.

We have explained to you what your wife is doing goes against BC Law and invalidates her BCDL. Essentially she is driving here illegally, it doesn't matter how or why she was allowed to do what she did in NZ to get her DL again, BC Law is very clear.

But keep doing what you are doing, and keep telling the world about it, god forbid the day she gets into an accident and someone comes back to what you have written here and her insurance is deemed void. Then you can come on here and cry to us about how unfair it is, and how she is such a good driver, and ICBC is the devil.




This is exactly the reason ICBC doesn't like people having two independent licenses. Because she can go to NZ, get a DUI on her NZ license, rack up 20 speeding tickets, lose her license there, and then come back to BC and continue driving on her BC license as if nothing ever happened. The system ICBC is trying to enforce means that you are accountable for your actions elsewhere once you come back home. AKA you can't go run over someone while driving drunk in a third world country and then come home and continue as if nothing happened.

I highly suggest you and your wife go speak to a lawyer or ICBC to figure out a legal way of her driving in NZ as necessary. I am sure they have a procedure in place for people like you. Or you can continue doing what you are now, but be warned, I am certain they will not look kindly on it if and when they find out. Just looking quickly I am 99% sure your wife should have just gotten and IDP. She would need to renew it every year, but it's 25 bucks.

I'm still amazed this topic is going on.:rukidding:

[Mr.C]

I had to surrender my Brazilian licence when I moved here.

I currently may or may not have another Brazilian licence, because it's used as a national ID document there.

[zulutango]

I have never had a Brazillian....but I hear that they can be itchy... :)

[Raid3n]

I have never had a Brazillian....but I hear that they can be itchy... :)

:badpokerface:

[MrPhreak]

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[z3german]

Whoa! Topic totally exploded LOL

Lots of interesting points, but gotta hand it to meme405 for putting it very simply and made a convincing argument for ICBC.


This is exactly the reason ICBC doesn't like people having two independent licenses. Because she can go to NZ, get a DUI on her NZ license, rack up 20 speeding tickets, lose her license there, and then come back to BC and continue driving on her BC license as if nothing ever happened. The system ICBC is trying to enforce means that you are accountable for your actions elsewhere once you come back home. AKA you can't go run over someone while driving drunk in a third world country and then come home and continue as if nothing happened.


Anyways,
I passed the test, alls good :awwyeah:

[meme405]

Whoa! Topic totally exploded LOL

Lots of interesting points, but gotta hand it to meme405 for putting it very simply and made a convincing argument for ICBC.



Anyways,
I passed the test, alls good :awwyeah:

Glad you got it sorted. Enjoy your trip.