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hud 91gt
09-24-2016, 03:29 PM
...the Sea Doo in my parking stall.

I moved to the island for the summer. My Datsun was off the road at a friends while I was working on it. I had a spare parking spot that wasn't in use while I was gone.

My neighbour, a friend of mine asked if a guy he met could store a Sea Do in the spot for a month. My neighbour told the guy the price, and he nicely overpaid for the month. 3 months later the Sea Do is still there. The guy can't be reached. A couple weeks back we were finally able to reach the guys girlfriend. Apparently it was going to be gone in a couple days, there will be much more cash waiting. He's out of the country.

Fast forward to last weekend. I finally get the Datsun back on the road and now I need my spot. I'll be bring my Acura back over and the orange car is going to need it's home on Wednesday.

What do I do?

1) Least hassle is move it onto the street, wait for it to get towed to impound.
2) Drive the sea do to my Grandma's on an undisclosed lake, try what Nicolas Cage taught me in Gone in 60 Seconds and enjoy next summer thoroughly.
3) Wait it out
4)???

Number 1 is highest on my list right now, just curious if the imagination of Revscene can come up with anything better. My neighbour barely knows this guy. Unfortunately he may lose his garage door clicker for anything other then option 3.

MG1
09-24-2016, 03:40 PM
I'd do number two, but after you tell the girlfriend your plan.

It's your spot and they told you they were going to move it.

fliptuner
09-24-2016, 03:45 PM
Park it in your neighbor's spot. It's his buddy. Lol

Honestly, I don't know if you have some sort of legal obligation to formally notify the owner and wait a certain amount of time before you can have it removed.

Berzerker
09-24-2016, 03:48 PM
Find someone else that can store it and make the guy pay Ransom to get it back.

Berz out.

Hondaracer
09-24-2016, 03:49 PM
doesnt your parkade/building have a towing company associated with it for visitor parking etc?

usually they deal with situations where somone is parked in registered spots, so if you were to call them and say this trailer is in your spot, i'm sure they'd be more than happy to tow it away for you

320icar
09-24-2016, 03:55 PM
Roll it out to visitor parking. When strata asks just say it wasn't mine, no idea

Gucci Mane
09-24-2016, 04:08 PM
i've got a pickup, shall i come by? im all in for a free sea doo!

Hondaracer
09-24-2016, 04:10 PM
i've got a pickup, shall i come by? im all in for a free sea doo!

lol came back to post this..

i'm in after Gucci!

hud 91gt
09-24-2016, 04:34 PM
My neighbour really doesn't even know the guy. It was a bit sketchy from the get go. If I put it on the street, i'll certainly post a when and where in this thread. lol

As for Fliptuners comment on legal obligation. I'm claiming naivety on that one. I told my neighbour he was free to use my spot. I didn't provide access to the spot. One day, a Sea Doo was there. I've since let him know I will be moving the sea do (He's helping me) when the time comes. In fact I didn't even receive cash for the parking, I just told him to keep the money as I bum internet off him. #F^&KTelus

Ch28
09-24-2016, 04:39 PM
I don't think I'd even offer up my spot in the first place

"My neighbour, a friend of mine asked if a guy he met could store a Sea Do in the spot for a month."

Wouldn't be surprised if the Sea Do was stolen and he stashed it at your place to avoid the owners from finding it at his place.

hud 91gt
09-24-2016, 04:43 PM
That certainly went through my mind.

Renthal
09-24-2016, 04:56 PM
get the vin off the trailer or the boat C numbers and you can check to see if it was posted stolen here:
Search Vehicles and Property (http://app.cpic-cipc.ca/English/search.cfm)

fliptuner
09-24-2016, 05:01 PM
In that case, I have secure parking in van if you need to hold it hostage.

hud 91gt
09-24-2016, 05:21 PM
Just went down to grab the VIN on the trailer, and license on the boat (it is clear). On my way up ran into my neighbour. He was able to get ahold of the owner but says it's been excuse after excuse. Out of country, bank accounts seized blah blah blah. Anyway, told him if it's not gone by wednesday it will be towed.

We'll see.

GLOW
09-24-2016, 05:39 PM
In that case, I have secure parking in van if you need to hold it hostage.

:suspicious:
inb4 i find this in my driveway.

fliptuner
09-24-2016, 05:47 PM
:suspicious:
inb4 i find this in my driveway.

Pfft....your area's not secure :troll:

SumAznGuy
09-24-2016, 06:09 PM
For cars, there is a form you can fill out with ICBC to claim ownership of a vehicle that has been left abandoned.
Maybe the same can be done with the seado.

Repossess or seize a vehicle (http://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registration/sell-vehicle/Pages/Repossess-or-seize-a-vehicle.aspx)

corollagtSr5
09-24-2016, 07:18 PM
He paid for a month, get that shit out of there. Its two months overdue. I say roll it into your neighbours friends parking spot and tell him to deal with it. Getting ripped off over here. Then tell your neighbour to collect two more months of parking.

snowball
09-24-2016, 09:08 PM
Seadoos are damn fun, option #2 if you've got the key... or a screwdriver

meme405
09-24-2016, 09:38 PM
I'd say the seadoo is payment for the 2 months rent he is outstanding.

I would happily covert that seadoo to cash for you if you like?

mr_chin
09-25-2016, 01:08 AM
it's nice to know that there are still some very very generous people in this world. and then they wonder why they get scammed.

#1 is your best option. you and your neighbor got you into this, you two should deal with it and move it onto the street.

have some respect for your grandma and please don't get her involved.

also have some self respect and not drag this out any longer.

inv4zn
09-25-2016, 01:14 AM
it's nice to know that there are still some very very generous people in this world. and then they wonder why they get scammed.

#1 is your best option. you and your neighbor got you into this, you two should deal with it and move it onto the street.

have some respect for your grandma and please don't get her involved.

also have some self respect and not drag this out any longer.

Strange circumstances aside, what the fuck does trying not to be a cunt have to do with self respect.

underscore
09-25-2016, 01:58 AM
If the guy is refusing to pick up his crap then in my mind he's abandoned it on your property, which shouldn't be any different from it being abandoned on the street. Just get it towed and if the guy says anything just tell him you didn't know it got towed and assumed he picked it up.

Honestly, I don't know if you have some sort of legal obligation to formally notify the owner and wait a certain amount of time before you can have it removed.

If you were scrapping it maybe, but if you're just gonna let it get towed and stuck in an impound yard I doubt it. Especially since I'm assuming the guy doesn't have any formal contract or agreement in place.

parm104
09-25-2016, 02:00 AM
Most of these suggestions aren't legal. If you're looking to do it legit, I would start by looking at your property agreement to see if that parking space was supposed to be your exclusive use. Then resort to calling your property manager and have them look into it removing it off your property. You did enter into an agreement with a stranger to allow them to use your property so similar to a tenant leaving a car on the property, you would be responsible tow costs and storage costs until you fight him in small claims for compensation.

A tow company usually won't come in and tow something unlicensed/unknown registrant (especially a sea doo) because the chances of them collecting tow fees and storage fees from the owner is slim to none. They'll then have a piece of junk sitting on their lot for free.

You could look into having a police come by and see if they can cite the Seadoo owner for trespassing.

You did give him permission to use your property which kind of fucks you over. I believe it might put you on the hook for being responsible for the way you handle his leftover/perhaps abandoned property. You might require a court order. Talk to a lawyer maybe. Remember it might have been illegal for you to rent your parking spot in the first place. It depends on the zoning laws of where you live. If the condo or apartment has provided you with the spot for free, they could be liable for fines for you renting it out to someone else. You could end up looking at being sued for that. These are just points that are coming at the top of my head and they're all over the place but do a little legal research into these points. You may have barked up the wrong tree here. Best of luck.

GLOW
09-25-2016, 07:11 AM
sounds like meme just picked himself up a seado
RS seado meet? :troll:

vitaminG
09-25-2016, 08:18 AM
#2 is win-win, you're helping the guy out by not getting it impounded and in the likely event he never comes to get it you have a seadoo for next summer. If he does show up give him a bill for storage fees.

Eff-1
09-25-2016, 03:32 PM
Assuming you follow the roughly the same logic and process when a tenant doesn't pay rent to a landlord, then the safest thing to do is serve some kind of notice you're going to have it towed for non-payment of "rent". After a number of days, you can legally have it towed, and it probably has to be done by a bailiff, which may require some kind of court order.

Honestly, you might want to call a bailiff and explain your problem. They will inform you of the best course of action. Be prepared, this will likely cost you some money.

PeanutButter
09-25-2016, 10:36 PM
It's illegal to park a trailer on the road with it being attached to a vehicle.
Just a fyi.

hud 91gt
09-26-2016, 01:57 AM
It's illegal to park a trailer on the road with it being attached to a vehicle.
Just a fyi.

Exactly. That way I don't have to take it any further then the curb.... The tow truck will take it the rest of the way. Why do I give a rats ass.

parm104
09-26-2016, 02:17 AM
Exactly. That way I don't have to take it any further then the curb.... The tow truck will take it the rest of the way. Why do I give a rats ass.

Then your property manager/developer will end up dealing with it and unless you and your neighbour both agree to deny that the transaction ever occurred and you don't draw any attention to yourself, you could end up being on the hook for illegally renting out a parking space. Do it right, spend a couple grand....do it the way you guys are talking about, possibly be on the hook for $20-40K.

320icar
09-26-2016, 05:58 AM
Lol wut???? 20 or 40 grand? Wtf are you talking about dude

meme405
09-26-2016, 07:46 AM
spend a couple grand

You could spend a couple grand

OR

Offer still stands OP. I got cash in hand...

You guys think I'm playing, but I had a go on one of those stand up wave runners for the first time this summer:

http://gearpatrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/best-water-crafts-gear-patrol-yamaha-superjet-2.jpg

And it was a fucking blast, so I have been looking to pick one up. But hey if someone's got a spare regular wave runner sitting around for cheap, I'd consider it.

underscore
09-26-2016, 08:23 AM
^ the catch is you have to make the trailer match your FX. Wrap, wheels, and airbags.

blkgsr
09-26-2016, 09:31 AM
sounds like you should get some lumber and put the trailer frame on it then pull the wheels

so when he comes to collect he can give you another $300 for the trouble and his wheels back

if you just let him come pick it up you get nothing and he got 3 months of parking for really cheap

hud 91gt
09-26-2016, 10:12 AM
Then your property manager/developer will end up dealing with it and unless you and your neighbour both agree to deny that the transaction ever occurred and you don't draw any attention to yourself, you could end up being on the hook for illegally renting out a parking space. Do it right, spend a couple grand....do it the way you guys are talking about, possibly be on the hook for $20-40K.

I fail to see how this will cost me any money at all?

If it gets towed, the vehicle gets impounded. All costs associated go to the owner of the vehicle. If it still does not get picked up, the impound lot is able to sell the vehicle to pay for their storage fees. How this costs money is beyond me.

I think most people are completely over reading this. I posted it as a joke because I think the situation is pretty funny actually. I really don't care about the money, I really could care less the spot was used while I was gone. There was no binding contract made. In fact there was no contract at all. This is a situation where someone has some shit on my property and I'm going to move it unless the guy who owns the shit moves it first.

yray
09-26-2016, 10:29 AM
revscene meet at grandmas

Hondaracer
09-26-2016, 10:54 AM
I fail to see how this will cost me any money at all?

If it gets towed, the vehicle gets impounded. All costs associated go to the owner of the vehicle. If it still does not get picked up, the impound lot is able to sell the vehicle to pay for their storage fees. How this costs money is beyond me.

I think most people are completely over reading this. I posted it as a joke because I think the situation is pretty funny actually. I really don't care about the money, I really could care less the spot was used while I was gone. There was no binding contract made. In fact there was no contract at all. This is a situation where someone has some shit on my property and I'm going to move it unless the guy who owns the shit moves it first.

yea, considering nothing was ever agreed upon in writing i dont think the sea doo guy would have any recourse whatsoever

Manic!
09-26-2016, 11:06 AM
Just talk to the building manager and have him call the tow company that deals with the building. Problem solved.

hud 91gt
09-26-2016, 11:23 AM
The issue with talking to the building manager is you aren't supposed to rent out your spot to someone outside the building. Despite the fact there was no formal agreement I don't want to go down that road. I don't see the building as a problem at all. The local city sidewalk will work just fine.

GLOW
09-26-2016, 12:14 PM
how is it that meme45 isn't hooning the fuck out of this thing yet? :smug:

hud 91gt
09-26-2016, 12:53 PM
You could spend a couple grand

OR

Offer still stands OP. I got cash in hand...

You guys think I'm playing, but I had a go on one of those stand up wave runners for the first time this summer:

http://gearpatrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/best-water-crafts-gear-patrol-yamaha-superjet-2.jpg

And it was a fucking blast, so I have been looking to pick one up. But hey if someone's got a spare regular wave runner sitting around for cheap, I'd consider it.
Lol thanks for the offer but I don't have the balls to sell it. That's when I start getting into legal issues lol.

It is brand new though, but looks to be a fairly basic unit. My neighbour in the other hand has a supercharged sea do. They thing is nuts.... Until it gets to it's top speed in like 3 seconds and physics just takes over.

Manic!
09-26-2016, 12:55 PM
The issue with talking to the building manager is you aren't supposed to rent out your spot to someone outside the building. Despite the fact there was no formal agreement I don't want to go down that road. I don't see the building as a problem at all. The local city sidewalk will work just fine.

He does not have to tell him about the agreement and it was only for one month. We have towed tenants and customers cars in the past.

meme405
09-26-2016, 01:28 PM
It is brand new though, but looks to be a fairly basic unit.

This definitely sounds like it fell off the back of a truck or something.

My neighbour in the other hand has a supercharged sea do. They thing is nuts.... Until it gets to it's top speed in like 3 seconds and physics just takes over.

Oh shit I didn't know people did that type of work to Seadoo's. I know that they do to snowmobiles, I have a couple friends with Turbo Sleds. But a seadoo with FI must be nuts, cause Seadoo's are all throttle, you're still smiling as you hit the rocks...

parm104
09-26-2016, 02:15 PM
yea, considering nothing was ever agreed upon in writing i dont think the sea doo guy would have any recourse whatsoever

Cash was exchanged for property rights. That is the agreement right there. It doesn't have to be in writing. He illegally gave the guy rights to use the property the moment he received the cash and gave him the spot to park in.

GLOW
09-26-2016, 02:24 PM
the neighbour who doesn't own the rights to the spot received the cash and gave the jetski owner permission, not OP. will that hold water?

Manic!
09-26-2016, 02:58 PM
When did everyone become a lawyer? Just get it towed and if he complains tell him to f off.

underscore
09-26-2016, 03:06 PM
Cash was exchanged for property rights. That is the agreement right there. It doesn't have to be in writing. He illegally gave the guy rights to use the property the moment he received the cash and gave him the spot to park in.

The "agreement" was also for 1 month of storage.

hud 91gt
09-26-2016, 03:07 PM
Cash was exchanged for property rights. That is the agreement right there. It doesn't have to be in writing. He illegally gave the guy rights to use the property the moment he received the cash and gave him the spot to park in.

In fact I never received the cash, nor did I give access to the garage. One could say I let my neighbour "rent" the spot. He is a tenant of the building and completely in my right. Not once did I make contact with his "friend."

Why do I have a feeling this is Parm's jet ski. Haha

SSM_DC5
09-26-2016, 03:26 PM
When did everyone become a lawyer? Just get it towed and if he complains tell him to f off.

I'm pretty sure Parm is a lawyer :fullofwin:

GLOW
09-26-2016, 05:03 PM
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/59664227.jpg

Manic!
09-26-2016, 05:05 PM
I'm pretty sure Parm is a lawyer :fullofwin:

Then maybe he can take up the case pro boner.

parm104
09-26-2016, 05:50 PM
In fact I never received the cash, nor did I give access to the garage. One could say I let my neighbour "rent" the spot. He is a tenant of the building and completely in my right. Not once did I make contact with his "friend."

Why do I have a feeling this is Parm's jet ski. Haha

Sorry, I didn't realize the only dealings you had were with your neighbour. I was under the impression your neighbour put you in contact with this 3rd party.

That does change the scenario significantly and leaves you practically free of any liability.

I was really hoping you would've kept my Jet Ski for the winter. I'm tight on garage space. I'll pick it up tomorrow.

When did everyone become a lawyer?

May 2014.

GLOW
09-26-2016, 06:33 PM
cost of parm's legal advice == 1 jet ski

mr_chin
09-26-2016, 11:08 PM
Strange circumstances aside, what the fuck does trying not to be a cunt have to do with self respect.

Because most of the time, when you do something extra for somebody, you have to pay the consequences. Again, most of the time. And when you're too nice, you usually get taken advantage of, and that means you have no self respect.

Besides, what/who justifies him as a cunt if he moved the sea doo because he needed the spot for his vehicle? Is that a selfish act? I mean, he's already done a lot to try and contact the dude, what more of a "cunt-less" thing can he do?

GLOW
09-27-2016, 07:59 AM
3 pages in...all we really need to know at this point is whether it's meme or parm setting up the RS seadoo meet :ifyouknow:

meme405
09-27-2016, 08:07 AM
3 pages in...all we really need to know at this point is whether it's meme or parm setting up the RS seadoo meet :ifyouknow:

Lol Hud 91gt doesn't have to give me or sell me the Seadoo.

Just tell me where he lives, and when he plans on putting it out on the street for it to get towed.

I'll be there long before any tow truck shows up...

:fuckyea: