Extremely racist altercation over parking spot recorded in Abbotsford [Archive]

Bouncing Bettys

10-23-2016, 10:04 PM

Manic!

10-23-2016, 10:13 PM

license plate is kk 7483

SiRV

10-23-2016, 11:37 PM

The typical trump supporter... in Canada.
Sadly, these guys make up a significant part of our population.

twitchyzero

10-23-2016, 11:44 PM

d'aww..he kissed the guy filming!

is camel-riding actually a diss? If someone asked me where my rice farmer hat is i'd probably lol.

4doorVIP

10-24-2016, 04:17 AM

what a shitty parking job

stewie

10-24-2016, 04:56 AM

This is going to bite him in the ass. It'll be the same as the video a few years ago of a fat chick at the Cloverdale rodeo ripping into someone. It only took a day or so for someone to recognize her and post up her name and have her world crumble down. The guy on the news who threw a beer can during the baseball game was fired from his job for his actions, I wonder how this guys employer will feel when they come across this

flagella

10-24-2016, 05:06 AM

Well... It's abbotsford afterall.

stewie

10-24-2016, 05:11 AM

Well... It's abbotsford afterall.

True

He'll probably jump back in his truck and blast some Johnny Rebel with the windows down so everyone can give him mad props and see how much of a role model redneck he is.

I doubt his friends will want to be seen around him for a while so they don't tarnish their reputation.

Ludepower

10-24-2016, 05:48 AM

I've seen worse...

El Bastardo

10-24-2016, 06:18 AM

Does that guy have boxing gloves with the Greek flag on them hanging from his rear view mirror? I had a similar interaction with a similar looking guy with a similarly shitty attitude a few years ago.

Snake Eyes

10-24-2016, 06:23 AM

Abbotsford Police investigate racially offensive video - NEWS 1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2016/10/23/abbotsford-police-investigate-racially-offensive-video/)

Digitalis

10-24-2016, 06:27 AM

Makes sense with how he walks them greeks like playing with the bumbum.

Hondaracer

10-24-2016, 06:55 AM

fuck.. got cancer from dem youtube comments lol... jesus..

thing with people like this is they probably already have nothing to lose, the guy is obviously a skid, part time construction laborer type who talks about his hells angels acquaintances at parties

social justice warriors etc. wont get very far because the guy has nothing to destory

StylinRed

10-24-2016, 07:04 AM

as most have said, its abby, hes a senior, wearing an mma shirt, this 5 seconds from homeless, bottom of the barrel, can't expect much

i dont want to sound like i'm being negative towards homeless people btw many of them are extremely nice, its just that it seems like there's a grouch soon to join them

6o4__boi

10-24-2016, 07:10 AM

lol this moron will get his 5 minutes of fame
but like people said, he's already a piece of shit and doesn't have much to lose

doubt the justice system can do anything to him other than a probation/conditional sentence or something along a slap on the wrist

then he'll just go back to his redneck circle jerk and brag to his other red neck buddies how he called out them immigrants and got away with it

fuckin lost it at

"Have a nice day sir! You too, have a nice day."

blkgsr

10-24-2016, 07:17 AM

100 hours of community service working with the street clean up guys in Surrey should be a start of a punishment. no jail time, just work with the people he so fanatically hates.

yray

10-24-2016, 08:34 AM

guy didn't floor the truck while leaving

0/10

Hondaracer

10-24-2016, 08:57 AM

If you're gonna go all out like this you might as well smash the guys phone who is filming

He thought he was being smart or something by filming back? lol think ya kinda missed the point bud

GLOW

10-24-2016, 09:03 AM

jokes on him...that smart phone he used was made in asia Kappa

will068

10-24-2016, 09:04 AM

Oh how I wished the brown guy he was targeting had a bindy johal / bal buttar mentality. I just want to see scums of society go at it.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/46/46666643a50e5022dd1b83f40c4d88157af9da35c38b635589 aa17b9aa8be89b.jpg

For the younger folks, here's a classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFJAAMS8U5Y&list=RDXFJAAMS8U5Y#t=4

Gululu888

10-24-2016, 10:33 AM

how is this extreme? at least there was no physical alterations or possibly worse...
the man could be going through harsh withdrawals. I'm not condoling his behaviours but there could be other issues he's going through.

unit

10-24-2016, 10:40 AM

all the title said was that he is 'extremely racist', which seems true.

but yeah you're not really wrong here, he didn't do anything illegal.

SSM_DC5

10-24-2016, 10:47 AM

guy didn't floor the truck while leaving

0/10

Why would he? He's the passenger of the truck

mikemhg

10-24-2016, 10:54 AM

This doesn't surprise me. You should see the stuff posted on some of the Abbotsford FB groups. I was reading one discussion recently where this girl made a racist comment. I creeped her FB. She was attractive, at least to me. ie: lots of tatts, piercings, she offroads her tracker like me, etc. I was hoping maybe the comment was just trolling until I saw the SS tattoo on her chest and the Rebel flag hanging in the background and that she named her daughter Berlin. That was an eyeopener. Quite a few vehicles around town have a rebel flag bumper stickers, something I hadn't really come across before moving here.

I always laugh when people from Vancouver are surprised there are racists in Canada. We as Canadians think that somehow we are different than our American neighbors below us. That is not the case. You would think that the power-base of the KKK is somewhere down South, like Alabama, or Carolina, etc. Meanwhile the fact is the major power-base for the KKK is in Washington and Oregon State, right below us.

Just because we're in the Pacific Northwest does not mean we live in some hippy loveland. These people very much exist here in BC, don't ever doubt that. Fuck that guy anyways, I mean look at him, he can't even walk straight.

GLOW

10-24-2016, 10:55 AM

Why would he? He's the passenger of the truck

it can still happen when he's the passenger

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freakshow

10-24-2016, 10:55 AM

I think he was just using an extremely elaborate confuse-the-opponent attack. In one sentence, he mixes up the countries Pakistan and India, the religion of Hinduism, the language of Hindi.

jasonturbo

10-24-2016, 10:58 AM

I think he was just using an extremely elaborate confuse-the-opponent attack. In one sentence, he mixes up the countries Pakistan and India.

Pakistan and India are countries???!

I always thought they were just parts of Surrey.

:troll:

Manic!

10-24-2016, 11:14 AM

all the title said was that he is 'extremely racist', which seems true.

but yeah you're not really wrong here, he didn't do anything illegal.

So you think it's ok to go up to random people and yell at them?

Manic!

10-24-2016, 11:18 AM

Pakistan and India are countries???!

I always thought they were just parts of Surrey.

:troll:

Your girl knows better.

:troll:

Bouncing Bettys

10-24-2016, 11:20 AM

So you think it's ok to go up to random people and yell at them?

The gentleman being yelled at thought so or else why would he stick around and film it. He had options to diffuse the situation rather than further antagonize the guy.

will068

10-24-2016, 11:33 AM

I think he was just using an extremely elaborate confuse-the-opponent attack. In one sentence, he mixes up the countries Pakistan and India, the religion of Hinduism, the language of Hindi.

No he wasn't, he just wasn't giving a fuck. I'm surprised he didn't call the brown guy a terrorist and included 'islam' in his rant.

It's good to see that most people view this situation in disgust and not brush it off.

Manic!

10-24-2016, 11:47 AM

The gentleman being yelled at thought so or else why would he stick around and film it. He had options to diffuse the situation rather than further antagonize the guy.

Why is it on him to defuse the situation? Looks like the guy was trying to park in his reserved spot but the ass hat and his buddy where in it.

GLOW

10-24-2016, 11:51 AM

one of my coworkers said it's ironic as the guy raging seems to have an accent. i asked what was it he guessed irish?

is that true or is the guy just drunk or something

unit

10-24-2016, 12:44 PM

So you think it's ok to go up to random people and yell at them?

i didnt say that...

Hondaracer

10-24-2016, 12:45 PM

No he wasn't, he just wasn't giving a fuck. I'm surprised he didn't call the brown guy a terrorist and included 'islam' in his rant.

It's good to see that most people view this situation in disgust and not brush it off.

People only view it this way because they can safely view it from behind their computer screen and comment on it relatively anonymously

The vast majority of people wouldn't have even said peep if they had witnessed it in person

Harvey Specter

10-24-2016, 12:48 PM

I always laugh when people think the Lower Mainland is some sort of multicultural utopia when it's not.

When EI's were killing each other you would hear slurs and be stereotyped all the time. Now that same angry has shifted and is been directed towards Chinese because of affordability issues in the city. The problem is it's not a blunt in your face racism you might see in other places, it's more subtle.

Bouncing Bettys

10-24-2016, 01:39 PM

Why is it on him to defuse the situation? Looks like the guy was trying to park in his reserved spot but the ass hat and his buddy where in it.
There is an reasonable expectation of him to be civil and to avoid confrontation in a situation like this. It is not his job to enforce parking. Is it likely he politely informed the truck driver of the situation and asked him to move? Having failed in asking, his next step should have been to retreat to his vehicle, call security or a parking manager, to deal with it. In the meantime he could have found other options for parking. With him out of his car and near to the truck with camera, it seems unlikely he took those steps. The racist buffoon pulled out his phone and got in his personal space in response so clearly his presence and actions were antagonizing the guy. It takes two to tango, as they say.

Harvey Specter

10-24-2016, 01:54 PM

There is an reasonable expectation of him to be civil and to avoid confrontation in a situation like this. It is not his job to enforce parking. Is it likely he politely informed the truck driver of the situation and asked him to move? Having failed in asking, his next step should have been to retreat to his vehicle, call security or a parking manager, to deal with it. In the meantime he could have found other options for parking. With him out of his car and near to the truck with camera, it seems unlikely he took those steps. The racist buffoon pulled out his phone and got in his personal space in response so clearly his presence and actions were antagonizing the guy. It takes two to tango, as they say.

I see the point you're making...

When someone has already been provoked and is acting aggressive it's usually best to stay away and call the police. I'll even go as far as saying if the person recording was another minority or even white that person still would have got a tongue lashing. Whether or not this dickwad was on drugs is up for debate but it sure look like he was on something and thankfully it didn't turn violent.

RRxtar

10-24-2016, 04:26 PM

There is an reasonable expectation of him to be civil and to avoid confrontation in a situation like this. It is not his job to enforce parking. Is it likely he politely informed the truck driver of the situation and asked him to move? Having failed in asking, his next step should have been to retreat to his vehicle, call security or a parking manager, to deal with it. In the meantime he could have found other options for parking. With him out of his car and near to the truck with camera, it seems unlikely he took those steps. The racist buffoon pulled out his phone and got in his personal space in response so clearly his presence and actions were antagonizing the guy. It takes two to tango, as they say.
the guy at one point did say they werent parking, just trying to turn around, and the guy filming, and that other car were sort of blocking them in.

as with any of these videos, we don't know how the altercation started. for all we know, the guy filming riled up the idiot, and started filming once the idiot started on his rant.

that doesnt excuse the idiot. hes clearly out of line. maybe has some issues.

i did lol at the "when did you come to canada?" "i was born in canada"

Ch28

10-24-2016, 04:39 PM

Hate Crimes Unit called after racially offensive video in Abbotsford goes viral (http://www.news1130.com/2016/10/24/hate-crimes-unit-called-racially-offensive-video-abbotsford-goes-viral/)

http://www.news1130.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/9/2016/10/23/Capture-2-293x300.png
A man in a racially offensive parking lot argument in Abbotsford walks towards the camera with a cell phone.

ABBOTSFORD (NEWS 1130) – Officers with the Abbotsford Police Department have contacted the province’s Hate Crimes Unit and Crown Counsel as it investigates a racially charged video.

A man shouts the words "white power" at a man filming a racially offensive argument in Abbotsford.

In the video, first posted to Twitter, a man is seen in a parking lot shouting slurs, expletives and the words “white power” to the person behind the camera. The man goes on to ask, “When did you come to Canada?” The man filming is heard saying, “I was born in Canada.”

Police are calling the incident disturbing and say an investigation began after the confrontation first surfaced late last week. Investigators confirm the video was shot in a parking lot in an area known as Five Corners.

Great68

10-24-2016, 04:48 PM

Driver seemed like he didn't want any part of that confrontation, probably thinking "Oh fuck my truck is going to be on the news".

Probably a real awkard conversation in the truck on the drive after:

Racist Douche: "Yeah I really showed that ****-******-*****"
Racist Douche: "He'll mind his own fucking business from now on!"
Racist Douche: "I got him good right? I got him good!"

Truck driver: "Ummmm, yeahhhhhhhh, you suuuure did" - Thinking to himself: "What a fucking idiot, I gotta get new friends"

Great68

10-24-2016, 05:00 PM

the guy at one point did say they werent parking, just trying to turn around, and the guy filming, and that other car were sort of blocking them in.

The article says that they were in the process of getting a ticket for parking in the reserved space.
The guy behind the camera started filming when the douche started getting aggressive to the parking agent.

MrPhreak

10-24-2016, 09:18 PM

This doesn't surprise me... lots of people in Chilliwack and smaller interior towns are like this

E-SPEC

10-24-2016, 09:18 PM

He is not really racist, just had a bad day thats all. Just like Micheal Richards! haha. Seriously though, that truck better be hidden cause its gonna be a target most likely! The driver is probably sweating bullets.

Gumby

10-24-2016, 09:34 PM

E-SPEC

10-24-2016, 10:45 PM

The passenger sure did, look at the way he walked back to the truck.

twitchyzero

10-24-2016, 10:48 PM

ITT: i learned the crown counsel has an actual unit dedicated to hate crimes

wow

wonder how many cases they actual deal with in a year to need to form a team.

inb4 they're fired for failing to meet a balanced budget Kreygasm

Acura604

10-25-2016, 06:31 AM

This story is splashed all over town... just a matter of time before this neanderthal is identified and shamed....and most likely fired from his job.

unit

10-25-2016, 07:28 AM

604STIG

10-25-2016, 07:49 AM

So apparently the guys in the truck were issued a parking ticket and he started raging on the parking attendant. This by stander saw the incident and started to record the altercation when the attention was turned towards him and that's what we see in the video.

E-SPEC

10-25-2016, 08:02 AM

GLOW

10-25-2016, 08:43 AM

Man who recorded Abbotsford racist rant video felt ?anger,? ?sadness? during altercation - BC | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/3023443/man-who-recorded-abbotsford-racist-rant-video-felt-anger-sadness-during-altercation/)

The guy recording was a Lawyer.

the twitter comments on that link :lol

Patton Oswalt ✔ @pattonoswalt
He DOES say, "Have a nice day, sir." Even Canadian racists are very polite. https://twitter.com/bilalspeaks/status/790397004685963266 …
9:08 AM - 24 Oct 2016

Tim Heidecker ✔ @timheidecker
That dumb monster truck makes him look comically small. https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/790585669789769728 …
Follow
Seth Rogen ✔ @Sethrogen
@timheidecker @pattonoswalt Abbotsford has a good air show though.
9:27 AM - 24 Oct 2016

StylinRed

10-25-2016, 08:44 AM

This story is splashed all over town... just a matter of time before this neanderthal is identified and shamed....and most likely fired from his job.

police say they know who he is, so i dont think he has a real job

RRxtar

10-25-2016, 09:32 AM

dhari

10-25-2016, 09:49 AM

Enough of this nonsense talking about the person who filmed the incident. This is a video of a person who lost his mind in a racist tirade. The video is helpful in creating dialogue regarding racism and how we can stop it. Don't get sidetracked with this other BS about egging on and ect. I see this same nonsense when a woman is sexually assaulted and people say she shouldn't have been drinking or wearing a short skirt. People will go to any length to avoid discussing the actual issues that are plagued in our society and it makes me sick.

GS8

10-25-2016, 10:36 AM

I always laugh when people from Vancouver are surprised there are racists in Canada. We as Canadians think that somehow we are different than our American neighbors below us. That is not the case. You would think that the power-base of the KKK is somewhere down South, like Alabama, or Carolina, etc. Meanwhile the fact is the major power-base for the KKK is in Washington and Oregon State, right below us.

Just because we're in the Pacific Northwest does not mean we live in some hippy loveland. These people very much exist here in BC, don't ever doubt that. Fuck that guy anyways, I mean look at him, he can't even walk straight.

Just to add to this:

The more north you go, the more you see it. The more east you go, the more you see it. It becomes more plain as day as the locations become more remote and isolated.

I know it's a topic for another discussion but the reserves up north in all the provinces are a perfect example of why Canada hasn't moved much toward racial acceptance. Big city = Bubble city. We don't see reality outside of our confined world. That's why when we see stories like this one in Abby, then we put our hands up and say in shock that 'this stuff happens??'

Yes it does. Every fucking day...

Take off the rose coloured classes and see all the corners of this country. There's some pretty dark corners out there that aren't being talked about.

And that is a pretty sad fact.

parm104

10-25-2016, 10:38 AM

Again, I'm completely against the racist fuck

But this is in a way a form of intellectual bullying. A tougher guy can bully a smaller guy and a smart guy can bully an idiot.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy filming played the racist like a fool

Oh yah, I can totally see how silently standing and documenting someone's irate behaviour can be a form of bullying.

Note to anyone who wants to take a stand against bullying: If you see a bully, walk away and don't look back. Or else you'll become the bully. If you see someone else being wronged or abused, don't get involved, walk away.

E-SPEC

10-25-2016, 03:14 PM

I'll say this to that,^^ the threat was gone already at the point of him getting back into his truck. So, was their really a need to continue filming and in a way antagonize the aggressor?

parm104

10-25-2016, 03:25 PM

I'll say this to that,^^ the threat was gone already at the point of him getting back into his truck. So, was their really a need to continue filming and in a way antagonize the aggressor?

Absolutely there is. Why? Because as we've said many times before, we don't know what happened before the recording started, and we don't know what happens after the recording stopped. We only get a small glimpse of the controversial part.

You film an incident like this so you have hard evidence of the events that unfolded. The situation isn't over until one of the two parties leaves the scene. It's quite possible that the same situation would've played out simply by the man watching and observing the scene as it unfolded. Is he in the wrong to stick around and watch as well; to be witness to an act of aggression against a worker? I don't think so but it's a matter of opinion, not fact.

Everyone operates differently and I am the type of person who will intervene in a fight, make sure someone knows they're acting inappropriately in public, addresses someone yelling or being physical to their spouse. If I feel the situation arises to the point where I need some physical evidence of an altercation, I will take my phone out and record it. If the aggressor doesn't like it, all he has to do stop acting a fool and be on his way. If he hasn't done any harm yet, I will stop recording. If it's possible he might still do harm, I won't stop recording until he/she/Caityln Jenner is out of sight.

josayeee

10-25-2016, 08:20 PM

Tapioca

10-25-2016, 09:19 PM

In the last few years I came across a man with a similar haircut and clothing style in the North Shore several times. Except this guy was 10 years older. The first time I saw him he was ranting about "F'ing immigrants" to an asian lady. It wasn't the first time I've seen this type of thing there. I moved here from the states in 1990 and I'll admit I had never seen this sort of thing in Vancouver before..or maybe I just wasn't aware of it.

It's probably going to become more common going forward, at least for the next little while. The backlash against "immigrants" (or really, non-white people) is happening all over Europe and the United States. It's not hard to see why - previously privileged people (i.e. undereducated white males) are getting left behind in the new socio-economic order. Instead of looking to themselves and figuring out how to survive in a rapidly changing world, they're taking the easy way out and blaming immigrants.

MG1

10-25-2016, 10:03 PM

Trust me, racism was always here in BC. Worse then, 'cause nobody reported it and you could get away with so much. Previous generations of immigrants suffered greatly. Words, threats, etc. are nothing compared to back then where it was broken bones and beatings. Humiliation and constant harassment that would make most people of today want to stop living. Feel ashamed to be on the streets. We have come a long way, but racism will never go away. Why? Because it's in us. Racism is everywhere. In every country, nook and cranny. Most decent people suppress it and know it is wrong. Shit happens when it becomes the norm and acceptable.

Harvey Specter

10-25-2016, 10:43 PM

604STIG

10-26-2016, 09:37 AM

parm104

10-26-2016, 09:39 AM

20 years ago when a minority walked outside their door, they would look to their left and right and they remained a minority. Today, the image of our society has changed drastically and the minority's face has changed as well. For a race and culture that has been in dominance for some many centuries to suddenly realize that they are no longer the visible majority in their community, it can be seen as very threatening. For any person, regardless of race or culture, a change in the status quo is threatening and scary.

On the topic of Trump, many of Trump's supporters can be seen as having racist undertones and many of them are also poor, working-class people. There may be a connection between these two characteristics. These people aren't necessarily dumb or stupid but rather are looking for a way out of being at the bottom of the barrel. No class/race wants to be at the bottom and Trump is the savior who is promising to bring them out. At the end of the day, it is human nature to look at your race's role in society and see how it is competing with others in the economic scheme of things. Is it indicative of anything useful, most likely not. But again, I believe it's human nature. No race wants to be the one on government aid, welfare, community housing, jobless, homeless, etc. There may be a race to the top but there is also a fight to not be at the very bottom. The fight to not be at the very bottom maybe more important as being the lowest class of people in society (economically and socially) is dehumanizing.

The main difference between racism today and 20 years ago is the internet. Our society is still as racist as it used to be (assumption by me), just today it's more covert. We have the ability to hide behind a computer screen and screen name and spew out hatred and racist bigotry and not really see any consequences for it. Believe it or not, some racists have a conscious and don't want to be identified or associated publicly by their behavior. But if you ever wonder if racism has died in Canada, British Columbia, Vancouver, etc...just take a look at the online comments of any race associated news article. You will see comment after comment of hatred.

Canada may be considered a melting pot and I KNOW it's a lot better than our US counterparts. But we have this overwhelming sense of entitlement in this country and this often gets in the way of racial progression. This whole "my country, my language, my culture" dialogue needs to stop. There is no "my" in this country, nothing is owned by you born here or not, and no one is entitled to anything. Regardless of your race, language, nationality or age...we're all equal under the law and that's the only thing that matters. Far too often people in this country blame each other for their downfalls or lack of success. Minorities are stealing our language, our jobs, our housing, taking up space in our schools, etc. This dialogue needs to stop for us to progress further in our melting pot society.

MG1

10-26-2016, 09:58 AM

Canada is still hanging on to being a mosaic rather than a melting pot like the US. Here we tend to embrace differences rather than make others wave the stars and stripes.

originalhypa

10-26-2016, 10:20 AM

previously privileged people (i.e. undereducated white males) are getting left behind in the new socio-economic order. Instead of looking to themselves and figuring out how to survive in a rapidly changing world, they're taking the easy way out and blaming immigrants.

Did you seriously just write that?

FailFish

Spoon

10-26-2016, 10:26 AM

I agree with some of the comments above, racism has always existed here in Vancouver. I've grown up with it, the only thing different over the past couple of years is that more of it is captured and shared via social media. Those who were never aware of it happening before are just now seeing it or being made aware of it.

IMO, it's just less common now because those of us who started as minorities eventually became the majority. I came around the mid-80s and there were maybe 3-4 Asian kids in the classroom. In a span of 4-5 years, Asians were taking over the classroom.

dhari

10-26-2016, 11:58 AM

IMO, it's just less common now because those of us who started as minorities eventually became the majority. I came around the mid-80s and there were maybe 3-4 Asian kids in the classroom. In a span of 4-5 years, Asians were taking over the classroom.

But apparently the "taking over" is the issue to the racists.

Sid Vicious

10-26-2016, 12:43 PM

But apparently the "taking over" is the issue to the racists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9g2szHsoz0

parm104

10-26-2016, 01:33 PM

Canada is still hanging on to being a mosaic rather than a melting pot like the US. Here we tend to embrace differences rather than make others wave the stars and stripes.

That's a good way to look at and to be honest, I prefer a mosaic rather than a melting pot. I know many will disagree and think assimilation should be the goal. I think there is a fine line between assimilation and maintaining one's cultural identity. Minorities have fought hard and long to be recognized and accepted in Western society and to throw all that away just to say we are all one in the same is counterproductive (from a minority perspective). We should be able to embrace individual cultural identity as THAT is what I believe is the Canadian identity.

will068

10-26-2016, 03:32 PM

It's probably going to become more common going forward, at least for the next little while. The backlash against "immigrants" (or really, non-white people) is happening all over Europe and the United States. It's not hard to see why - previously privileged people (i.e. undereducated white males) are getting left behind in the new socio-economic order. Instead of looking to themselves and figuring out how to survive in a rapidly changing world, they're taking the easy way out and blaming immigrants.

I would like to point out that the level of hate and prejudice is more prevalent in societies that are:

A. Lower socio-economic background
B. Societies where the people just never left their hometowns and never explored other parts of the world

Hell, go to a predominantly poor black neighborhood, you will encounter folks who will be just as a prejudice as much as folks in poor white neighborhoods. And from my experience from traveling and living in other countries, any area that is predominantly poor, I actually expect such treatment - especially if I look different. Why ? It's their turf and I'm the outsider. Me being in their turf is already considered a threat to them. They have nothing left but their pride and my presence in their area can be interpreted as a disrespect to them.

I have to be with someone who is of their neighborhood to be relatively accepted or make it known that "hey I know it's your area, I'm just a guest, I mean no disprespect"...

In the end, I've grown a thick skin about it. As a minority in a white society, you have to.

iPee

10-26-2016, 03:40 PM

I would like to point out that the level of hate and prejudice is more prevalent in societies that are:

A. Lower socio-economic background
B. Societies where the people just never left their hometowns and never explored other parts of the world

Hell, go to a predominantly poor black neighborhood, you will encounter folks who will be just as a prejudice as much as folks in poor white neighborhoods. And from my experience from traveling and living in other countries, any area that is predominantly poor, I actually expect such treatment - especially if I look different. Why ? It's their turf and I'm the outsider. Me being in their turf is already considered a threat to them. They have nothing left but their pride and my presence in their area can be interpreted as a disrespect to them.

I have to be with someone who is of their neighborhood to be relatively accepted or make it known that "hey I know it's your area, I'm just a guest, I mean no disprespect"...

In the end, I've grown a thick skin about it. As a minority in a white society, you have to.

I felt that kind of vibe from the locals when I visited Berlin a couple weeks back.

CivicBlues

10-26-2016, 03:56 PM

Shades

10-26-2016, 04:24 PM

I felt that kind of vibe from the locals when I visited Berlin a couple weeks back.

Really? I was just in Berlin last month (my 2nd visit) and I've never had an issue with being Asian there. I suppose mostly stick around Mitte/Kreuzberg/Freidrichshain, but found it multicultural af. Did you venture out to the suburbs or something?

I lived in Berlin for a year in 2010. The only time I had a problem was when I was having lunch on the patio with my gf at the time and two teenage kids walked by and said "ching chong ling long" to me. Sadly, I didn't have a come back. My gf who grew up there she asked if I was okay. Most Germans today are super sensitive to race and xenophobia. To bring some context into why that maybe WW2 is a continuous 8 year subject and is taught starting form grade school. They are taught the mistakes they made and to be ashamed of their history. I took history 11 here in summer school many moons ago and WW2 was a one day subject lol.

MG1

10-26-2016, 05:50 PM

Sadly, I didn't have a come back. My gf who grew up there she asked if I was okay.

I would have put finger across face under the nose, held my hand up and say, "Ya vol herr kommandant! Heil Hitler!" a la Hogan's Heroes, lol.

Okay, maybe not the Heil Hitler part, but the hand and finger salute would get the message across, me thinks.

Probably get me arrested, though.

Tapioca

10-26-2016, 07:44 PM

I would like to point out that the level of hate and prejudice is more prevalent in societies that are:

A. Lower socio-economic background
B. Societies where the people just never left their hometowns and never explored other parts of the world

Well, that's sort of the point I was making.

These people, like the Trump supporters or this guy in the video, are poorer today than they were maybe 30-40 years ago. Having money solves a lot of problems.

The problem with many places in the Western world today is globalization has left underskilled and undereducated people without jobs and without prospects for a decent life. If you have a decent job, you tend to want other things like a spouse, maybe some kids, and a house. If you have these things, you tend to have fewer reasons to lash out at minorities. Underskilled and under-educated men have felt the brunt of all of the changes.

Shades

10-26-2016, 10:05 PM

I would have put finger across face under the nose, held my hand up and say, "Ya vol herr kommandant! Heil Hitler!" a la Hogan's Heroes, lol.

Okay, maybe not the Heil Hitler part, but the hand and finger salute would get the message across, me thinks.

Probably get me arrested, though.

Lol. At the time I was more shocked than anything. In hindsight I don't know if I'd react differently. While I was hurt by the kids comment but am I really going to try and teach these kids a lesson? How many times have we seen crying babies torturing their parents?

I recently met this blue collared gentleman who seems to be about my dad's age. I'm 33. He has a 25 year old. He seems like the calm, hardworking type who isn't too proud to do anything to put his two kids through uni. He told me when he went to Brit there was a lot of Racism. Most things he shook off, put his head down and kept working. One exception is when biggots called him a "fucking chinaman." He'd get into fist fights.

Vdubdub

10-26-2016, 10:28 PM

LOL how is this a hate crime? Your kidding...

MG1

10-26-2016, 11:34 PM

I recently met this blue collared gentleman who seems to be about my dad's age. I'm 33. He has a 25 year old. He seems like the calm, hardworking type who isn't too proud to do anything to put his two kids through uni. He told me when he went to Brit there was a lot of Racism. Most things he shook off, put his head down and kept working. One exception is when biggots called him a "fucking chinaman." He'd get into fist fights.

Good ol' Brit.......... high school my school, lol. When I was there, the population was maybe just over half Chinese, and the rest, Italian. We all got along and even called each other all kinds of names. Grade 8 was an eye opener, though, coming from an elementary school that was 97+/-% Chinese. Those Eyetalian girls........... mama mia!

By the time grade 9 rolled around, it was all good. Realized then, people are people no matter what their background. The only people that didn't mingle with others were the FOB's, because they didn't fit in anywhere. Kind of felt sorry for them, but they didn't try all that hard, either.

I often wAnder what it would have been like if the demographics were a little different one way or another.

Manic!

10-26-2016, 11:44 PM

There's less racism seen in BC because people are scared. You say something stupid to the wrong brown or asian person your going to get the sh/t kicked out of you or worse.

RevYouUp

10-27-2016, 12:20 AM

words hurt

iPee

10-27-2016, 11:42 AM

Really? I was just in Berlin last month (my 2nd visit) and I've never had an issue with being Asian there. I suppose mostly stick around Mitte/Kreuzberg/Freidrichshain, but found it multicultural af. Did you venture out to the suburbs or something?

Actually I was around those areas as well. Compared to other cities on my trip London, Amsterdam, Bordeaux, and Paris. Berlin felt a little more closed off. Still had fun though.

originalhypa

10-27-2016, 11:55 AM

There's less racism seen in BC because people are scared. You say something stupid to the wrong brown or asian person your going to get the sh/t kicked out of you or worse.

Have you ever considered that I don't say racist things because it's hurtful and ignorant, and not because I'm afraid that gulululemon's 6' tall mainlander buddy is going to fight me. Not all folks are intimidated by the threat of physical violence. There are a great many individuals who don't spout hatred, simply because we're not hateful people. Prejudice goes both ways.

One thing with this thread is that it's brought out RS own levels of passive aggressive racism. Some of you are just as bad as the guy in the video. In fact, some of you are worse than him. At least with the guy in the video, we know where he stands. But some of you put on a good face at meets and events, but harbour deep seeded prejudice that comes out in these threads. Now you're affecting my trust, and that's far worse than someone calling me a gwailo to my face.

FailFish

Manic!

10-27-2016, 12:27 PM

Have you ever considered that I don't say racist things because it's hurtful and ignorant, and not because I'm afraid that gulululemon's 6' tall mainlander buddy is going to fight me. Not all folks are intimidated by the threat of physical violence. There are a great many individuals who don't spout hatred, simply because we're not hateful people. Prejudice goes both ways.

One thing with this thread is that it's brought out RS own levels of passive aggressive racism. Some of you are just as bad as the guy in the video. In fact, some of you are worse than him. At least with the guy in the video, we know where he stands. But some of you put on a good face at meets and events, but harbour deep seeded prejudice that comes out in these threads. Now you're affecting my trust, and that's far worse than someone calling me a gwailo to my face.

FailFish

There is a reason why people are doping off kkk flyers in the middle of the night in B.C.

Dozens of KKK flyers found around Chilliwack raise concerns of racism | Georgia Straight Vancouver's News & Entertainment Weekly (http://www.straight.com/news/746101/dozens-kkk-flyers-found-around-chilliwack-raise-concerns-racism)

and not during the day like in North Carolina.

KKK recruitment letters handed out in Wilmington communities - WECT TV6-WECT.com:News, weather & sports Wilmington, NC (http://www.wect.com/story/20926680/kkk-recruitment-letters-handed-out-in-wilmington-communities)

Bouncing Bettys

10-27-2016, 02:22 PM

There's less racism seen in BC because people are scared. You say something stupid to the wrong brown or asian person your going to get the sh/t kicked out of you or worse.
Is this what Justin Trudeau means when he speaks of strength through diversity? Doesn't sound very harmonious.

Manic!

10-27-2016, 02:41 PM

Is this what Justin Trudeau means when he speaks of strength through diversity? Doesn't sound very harmonious.

It's better than just sitting there and taking sh/t like many immigrants had to.

Infiniti

10-27-2016, 02:49 PM

https://youtu.be/FqUA-vRcwRM

Berzerker

10-27-2016, 03:11 PM

Shades

10-27-2016, 07:13 PM

I didn't get a chance to watch the video but here's my thoughts on this subject.
What's the best way to get a rise out of someone? Obviously if they are of a different ethnic background than you the easiest way is to insult their race. When you have nothing else to attack, race is the easiest.

Berz out.

I see what you're implying but how does one defend themselves from these bullies/racists? I can see no better way than filming it.

Eastwood

10-27-2016, 09:17 PM

EmperorIS

10-27-2016, 09:28 PM

I've seen more and more Asian guys able to date white girls recently. Makes me happy and jealous

Shades

10-27-2016, 09:34 PM

Our culture has taught us all from an early age that only whites can be racist.

I'm a member of a public speaking skills group, Toastmasters, and we have a member that does weekly speeches on racism. She speaks on how racism affects her life and all our members know she is referring to white people every time.

Whenever I hear her speak I roll my eyes but I know I society can't let me disagree as all I can do is clap and congratulate her on her courage or else I'm racist.

What I have been taught about racism in the West is that it is a one way street - always caused by whites. One day I would like to find some of these racist white people, but unfortunately they're pretty rare which is exactly the opposite of what our media tells us.

It seems like you are still missing the point on what this toastmaster lady is saying. I don't know what nationality you are but if your forefathers were slaves or if they tried to get a job but were passed up due to the color of their skin or last name I think you'd clap a little harder.

People try to deny slavery, mistreatment of our native Americans and going to the extent of saying racism is over. How could one say that when you see unarmed black people get shot, homeless native people etc. Do people really think because residential schools were so long ago that it doesn't affect future generations? Louie CK says it best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVTXFsHYLKA

Eastwood

10-27-2016, 10:18 PM

It seems like you are still missing the point on what this toastmaster lady is saying. I don't know what nationality you are but if your forefathers were slaves or if they tried to get a job but were passed up due to the color of their skin or last name I think you'd clap a little harder.

People try to deny slavery, mistreatment of our native Americans and going to the extent of saying racism is over. How could one say that when you see unarmed black people get shot, homeless native people etc. Do people really think because residential schools were so long ago that it doesn't affect future generations? Louie CK says it best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVTXFsHYLKA

Two things come to mind: there was never slavery in Canada and Louie CK is a comic making a joke of a common stereotype.

I don't believe the BLM narrative. One thing can be certain is that the Liberal agenda is to keep them believing their victims to vote Democrat.

Manic!

10-27-2016, 10:52 PM

Two things come to mind: there was never slavery in Canada.

Technically not true. Also Canada was part of the British empire and parts of the empire there was slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada

Gululu888

10-27-2016, 11:01 PM

Go back to fucking Europe, Canada is my cousin's property.

Manic!

10-27-2016, 11:06 PM

One day I would like to find some of these racist white people, but unfortunately they're pretty rare which is exactly the opposite of what our media tells us.

Here you go: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t110333/

to me 3 seconds on google. You should sign up.

Traum

10-27-2016, 11:09 PM

I've seen more and more Asian guys able to date white girls recently. Makes me happy and jealous
Esp among the younger generations, I see quite a bit of interracial dating too. At the very least, it is definitely way more than what I saw back in highschool in the 90's and later in university.

Damn... why am I not born in the 90's??? :tears:

parm104

10-28-2016, 02:36 PM

Our culture has taught us all from an early age that only whites can be racist.

...She speaks on how racism affects her life and all our members know she is referring to white people every time.

Whenever I hear her speak I roll my eyes...

One day I would like to find some of these racist white people, but unfortunately they're pretty rare which is exactly the opposite of what our media tells us.

I don't know where to start...I think you have a skewed reality on race and society. It almost seems like you want to be included in OTHER peoples' dialogues and experiences on racism. You roll your eyes because she is speaking about her personal experiences and they don't align with yours? How could they? I grew up in the same culture as you and I was never taught that only white people can be racist. I was taught that PEOPLE, including myself, can be racist.

As alluded to by Berz earlier, race is the most extrinsic and immutable human characteristic. I don't believe someone can change their race and therefore one certainly cannot speak on behalf of another race and talk about racist experiences they might encounter.

Your thought process seems very narrow minded to me. You believe the media is the one who is fueling racist sentiments and making us believe that there are indeed many racists living among us when in reality your claiming the "Racist white person" is a scarce as the Sasquatch. Why don't you take 5 minutes and read through this thread alone as many members of this forum, coming from different ethnic backgrounds and generations, with no agendas have shared their experiences with racism.

The whole "you know white people aren't the only racists" argument makes no sense at all unless someone says "all white people are racist" or "white people are always the one being racist." I should be able to tell an encounter about a racist experience without having to include "oh by the way, white people can also experience racism." People should be able to share their experiences without having to be worried that someone is going to think they're pointing a finger at them. If that's how you end up feeling, that's on you and your conscious (guilty or not).

MarkyMark

10-28-2016, 04:38 PM

I'm on the fence about whipping out your phone on someone who's already very disgruntled. If you feel you need the evidence because some shit went down then I can totally get it. If you're doing it just because you want to show your friends what an asshole someone is being then you also accept the risk that this person might be crazy and it will set them off even more.

Just something to think about when you decide to put yourself in that situation, are you prepared if an altercation ensues or that the person might just try and take your phone if you have something on them?

StylinRed

10-31-2016, 08:34 AM

Charges approved in racially-charged viral video in Abbotsford

Police in Abbotsford now say 47-year-old Karry Vernon Corbett of Hope has been charged with several offences including two counts of assault, one count of Uttering Threats and one count of Causing a Disturbance.

However, police have yet to find Corbett. They say a warrant has been issued for his arrest. “Shortly after that video was recorded, the witness made contact with the APD and then we began our investigation. We identified the suspect, then ultimately forwarded a report to Crown Counsel,” explains Constable Ian MacDonald.

He adds the charges of assault doesn’t necessarily mean there was a physical fight. “It isn’t restricted to just actually making physical contact with someone. It can be gesturing and posturing and having the ability to do that person harm and we believe Mr. Corbett did that first to the 72-year-old traffic attendant, then to the witness. We believe also that he uttered a threat to that traffic attendant prior to the camera being turned on. We’ve got corroboration of those facts from some witnesses.”

MacDonald says the province’s Hate Crimes Unit was called in, but no hate crimes charges have been approved. “That can be something that can be considered. The standard for a hate crimes per se is pretty difficult given the circumstances. To get an actual hate crimes charges, he would’ve had to either been inciting others to join in the hatred or that he’s publishing with an intent to spread hatred. For the information we have, this was essentially a belligerent and albeit, a racist sounding individual who was targeting his comments at one individual.”

Police are pleading with anyone who knows his whereabouts to call 911 or CrimeStoppers at 1.800.222.TIPS.

Charges approved in racially-charged viral video in Abbotsford - NEWS 1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2016/10/31/charges-approved-racially-charged-viral-video-abbotsford-no-arrests/)

only 47? wow

SkinnyPupp

10-31-2016, 09:11 AM

only 47? wow
You must not know many tweakers LUL

6o4__boi

10-31-2016, 09:16 AM

the term hate crime gets thrown around pretty easily but its actually pretty hard to nail someone down for a hate crime

minoru_tanaka

10-31-2016, 09:37 AM

The whole "you know white people aren't the only racists" argument makes no sense at all unless someone says "all white people are racist" or "white people are always the one being racist." I should be able to tell an encounter about a racist experience without having to include "oh by the way, white people can also experience racism." People should be able to share their experiences without having to be worried that someone is going to think they're pointing a finger at them. If that's how you end up feeling, that's on you and your conscious (guilty or not).

He feels his safe space is violated. You wouldn't understand being a minority.

This thread should be renamed "Extremely racist altercation over parking spot recorded in Abbotsford(but this guy may be white but yenno, like, indians, asians, hispanics and blacks can be racist too ok"

Traum

10-31-2016, 10:18 AM

and now the guy is now being charged, but not with hate crime:

B.C. man charged following racist tirade in viral video - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/abbotsford-video-man-charged-1.3829300)

Police in B.C. are looking for a man facing four charges connected to "racist and disturbing remarks," made in a video that circulated online last week.

Karry Vernon Corbett, 47, of Hope, B.C. — a small community 150 kilometres east of Vancouver — was charged Saturday morning with four counts including assault, uttering threats, and causing a disturbance.

...

The video was circulated widely, and police quickly identified Corbett, who has a long criminal record, said Const. Ian MacDonald.

...

Court documents show Corbett has a criminal record dating back to 1999, including past convictions for assault, theft and causing a disturbance.

He is also facing charges of assault with a weapon and uttering threats for two incidents in 2015 that are still before the courts.

Police in Abbotsford and Hope are looking for Corbett. Anyone with information on his location is asked to contact their local police department.

GLOW

10-31-2016, 10:23 AM

He adds the charges of assault doesn’t necessarily mean there was a physical fight. “It isn’t restricted to just actually making physical contact with someone. It can be gesturing and posturing and having the ability to do that person harm and we believe Mr. Corbett did that first to the 72-year-old traffic attendant, then to the witness.

i learned something new today about an assault charge

freakshow

10-31-2016, 10:23 AM

I think I'm getting more and more libertarian with these types of things..

The guy was pissed. I doubt that the other parties involved were innocent, just better at shutting up and using a camera.
When he's pissed, he's gonna (try to) insult the guy, and he picked race. Unless he's threatening violence, is an insult to race really worse than any other insult he could have used? Would it have been better to insult his height, intelligence, mother or car?

Half of our posts in this very thread are racist insults about how he's a redneck from a certain part of BC

He's a racist douchebag, but I don't know if charges are appropriate..

originalhypa

10-31-2016, 10:44 AM

He's a racist douchebag, but I don't know if charges are appropriate..

I think this is nothing more than appeasing the general public. If not for the video and the subsequent media attention, chances are nothing would have come of this incident.
That said, the guy is obviously a complete loser with a rap sheet that dates back 26 years. He has nothing to lose and nothing to offer society, plus he's shown that he is a complete piece of shit. Knowing that, I'm not against putting him behind bars for a while.

Traum

10-31-2016, 10:53 AM

I think this is nothing more than appeasing the general public. If not for the video and the subsequent media attention, chances are nothing would have come of this incident.
That said, the guy is obviously a complete loser with a rap sheet that dates back 26 years. He has nothing to lose and nothing to offer society, plus he's shown that he is a complete piece of shit. Knowing that, I'm not against putting him behind bars for a while.
On the thought of putting him behind bars, I cringe at the thought that throwing him into prison will only mean this douchebag is feeding off our direct tax dollars. Inmates are not exactly cheap to keep locked up. :rukidding:

Great68

10-31-2016, 11:02 AM

He's a racist douchebag, but I don't know if charges are appropriate..

Did you read the articles posted by StylinRed and Traum?

He was charged for: "assault, uttering threats, and causing a disturbance. " There were no charges for hate-crime related offences.

"We believe also that he uttered a threat to that traffic attendant prior to the camera being turned on. We’ve got corroboration of those facts from some witnesses"

You don't have to physically touch someone to commit assault.

Sounds like the charges were completely appropriate to me.

freakshow

10-31-2016, 11:27 AM

Did you read the articles posted by StylinRed and Traum?

He was charged for: "assault, uttering threats, and causing a disturbance. " There were no charges for hate-crime related offences.

"We believe also that he uttered a threat to that traffic attendant prior to the camera being turned on. We’ve got corroboration of those facts from some witnesses"

You don't have to physically touch someone to commit assault.

Sounds like the charges were completely appropriate to me.
I know that it is technically assault, but imagine if we laid charges out every time someone said 'i'm gonna kick your ass' in a verbal dispute. This seems much more racially charged, and I guess my general point was, I don't see how racial insults are worse than any other kind.

originalhypa

10-31-2016, 11:31 AM

Inmates are not exactly cheap to keep locked up. :rukidding:

Not at all. But the budget is there regardless of whether or not we lock this character up. It's not that if we let him walk, that our taxes are going to be any cheaper, lol.

I think that folks fail to realize just how bad a life in jail actually is. The loss of freedom, the loss of individuality, and the constant threat of violence and retribution has to be taxing on one's system. The thought of being locked up in solitary for 23 hours a day is one of the most terrifying things I can think of as a human, because it goes against our nature as social animals.

Bouncing Bettys

10-31-2016, 11:43 AM

You don't have free speech without hate speech.

parm104

10-31-2016, 02:05 PM

i learned something new today about an assault charge

That's mainly why we have assault and battery as two separate charges. A battery being an actual physical harm but an assault being something that can include a physical harm or the THREAT of a physical harm.

Manic!

10-31-2016, 02:20 PM

You don't have free speech without hate speech.

Something you probably spew all the time.

If I see you in public I'm going to stand six inches from you and scream Brittney spear songs at you as loud as I can.

Free speech bro.

Bouncing Bettys

10-31-2016, 02:51 PM

Something you probably spew all the time.

If I see you in public I'm going to stand six inches from you and scream Brittney spear songs at you as loud as I can.

Free speech bro.
Yes in fact I do hold free speech right up there in importance with life and liberty. Sadly the Regressive Left seems to hold a low value to it as we are seeing with Bill C-16 and protest of UofT professor Jordan Peterson for standing up for free speech.

FYI
Causing disturbance, indecent exhibition, loitering, etc.
175. (1) Every one who
(a) not being in a dwelling-house, causes a disturbance in or near a public place,
(i) by fighting, screaming, shouting, swearing, singing or using insulting or obscene language,
(ii) by being drunk, or
(iii) by impeding or molesting other persons,
(b) openly exposes or exhibits an indecent exhibition in a public place,
(c) loiters in a public place and in any way obstructs persons who are in that place, or
(d) disturbs the peace and quiet of the occupants of a dwelling-house by discharging firearms or by other disorderly conduct in a public place or who, not being an occupant of a dwelling-house comprised in a particular building or structure, disturbs the peace and quiet of the occupants of a dwelling-house comprised in the building or structure by discharging firearms or by other disorderly conduct in any part of a building or structure to which, at the time of such conduct, the occupants of two or more dwelling-houses comprised in the building or structure have access as of right or by invitation, express or implied,
is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
But do feel free to softly serenade me. Britney Spears is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Ducdesmo

10-31-2016, 03:36 PM

A search on this guy on the CSO reveals a long list of charges and confirms that he is a career douche, not at all surprising.

jasonturbo

10-31-2016, 05:26 PM

Carl Johnson

10-31-2016, 07:59 PM

I'm not sure it's appropriate to classify this individual as a racist, I suspect the root cause of his behaviour is a generally poor temperament combined with limited cognitive abilities.

While in this case his inability to reason was manifested as racism, I suspect that on any other day he could just as easily be classified as a homophobe, misogynist, etc.

I'm not about to write some sob story about how the man is a victim, but as a reasonable person, I find myself thinking that he does not genuinely hate other races, he just has difficulty functioning in society.

I would be far more concerned to see a level headed person saying racist things than someone throwing a childish tantrum.

Meh, perhaps even trips to the courthouse will help him understand.

A level-headed person is just more tactful about hiding his or her biases and prejudices. In some way, I feel sorry for the guy. I mean come on the guy filming him was a lawyer. Did he even stand a chance?

And I think you hit the nail on the head for saying his inability to reason and argue very likely resulted into his temper tantrum.

Harvey Specter

10-31-2016, 08:16 PM

A level-headed person is just more tactful about hiding his or her biases and prejudices. In some way, I feel sorry for the guy. I mean come on the guy filming him was a lawyer. Did he even stand a chance?

And I think you hit the nail on the head for saying his inability to reason and argue very likely resulted into his temper tantrum.

Feel sorry for the guy??? FailFish

Carl Johnson

10-31-2016, 09:15 PM

Feel sorry for the guy??? FailFish

Yes why not? Is he not a human being? We all make mistakes in life. No one is perfect. His just happen to be on camera. It is difficult for me to pass judgment on anyone without knowing his or her entire life story.

MG1

10-31-2016, 09:20 PM

^he needs to find god

...................... god bless

E-SPEC

10-31-2016, 10:52 PM

God is too busy somewhere, and he is also deaf and blind.

twitchyzero

10-31-2016, 10:57 PM

What's the best way to get a rise out of someone? Obviously if they are of a different ethnic background than you the easiest way is to insult their race. When you have nothing else to attack, race is the easiest.

Berz out.

no it's easier, calling someone fat.
or short.
or ugly.
or all three at once.

Yes why not? Is he not a human being? We all make mistakes in life. No one is perfect. His just happen to be on camera. It is difficult for me to pass judgment on anyone without knowing his or her entire life story.

did you feel sorry for the greyhound guy who beheaded his fellow passenger and devoured him?

i mean it's not his fault he had voices in his head.

mental illness/addiction is a very deeply-rooted issues and I will do my best with empathy but it can be difficult.

Most of the racist shit online i see is said in jest/trolling. "you're bloody retarded" or ha,gayyy.gif doesn't mean the person behind the screen is homophobic/picks on mentally-retarded individuals.

to berate those hateful comments at an individual continuously is different.

parm104

11-01-2016, 12:42 AM

Yes in fact I do hold free speech right up there in importance with life and liberty. Sadly the Regressive Left seems to hold a low value to it as we are seeing with Bill C-16 and protest of UofT professor Jordan Peterson for standing up for free speech.

FYI:

Causing disturbance, indecent exhibition, loitering, etc.
175. (1) Every one who
(a) not being in a dwelling-house, causes a disturbance in or near a public place,
(i) by fighting, screaming, shouting, swearing, singing or using insulting or obscene language,
(ii) by being drunk, or
(iii) by impeding or molesting other persons,
(b) openly exposes or exhibits an indecent exhibition in a public place,
(c) loiters in a public place and in any way obstructs persons who are in that place, or
(d) disturbs the peace and quiet of the occupants of a dwelling-house by discharging firearms or by other disorderly conduct in a public place or who, not being an occupant of a dwelling-house comprised in a particular building or structure, disturbs the peace and quiet of the occupants of a dwelling-house comprised in the building or structure by discharging firearms or by other disorderly conduct in any part of a building or structure to which, at the time of such conduct, the occupants of two or more dwelling-houses comprised in the building or structure have access as of right or by invitation, express or implied,
is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

But do feel free to softly serenade me. Britney Spears is a guilty pleasure of mine.

It's a little misleading look at this statute alone without understanding how it's applied.

Each one of those listed acts alone won't result in a charge. Those acts actually have to have a foreseeable outcome of causing a disturbance and indeed cause an overtly manifested disturbance. Merely being offended by a person's language or volume of their voice isn't sufficient enough to warrant a disturbance charge. Yelling and shouting after a Canucks game won't result in a disturbance but doing it at 3am in front an apartment building will.

The context of each situation is unique and must be looked at as a whole to really determine whether or not the accused has caused a disturbance. Looking at just the listed actions is truly misleading to the general public as it makes people think that simply yelling or swearing in public will/could result in a s.175 violation.

originalhypa

11-01-2016, 09:24 AM

Yes why not? Is he not a human being? We all make mistakes in life. No one is perfect. His just happen to be on camera. It is difficult for me to pass judgment on anyone without knowing his or her entire life story.

I only needed to see a glimpse of this guy's history to recognize that he has made a lifetime of bad choices. Could it be that he wasn't taught right because his parents were losers too? Most likely.

But let's face it. With 6+ billion people in the world, I can't cry for every one of their sad upbringings. Instead of feeling sorry for this clown, why not praise those who made a change in their life?

My parents were being terrorized by a homeless man last year who was breaking into their cars, and then their house to get money for his fix. I put an investigator on him who found out who he was. I followed him on facebook (fucking millenials.....) and traced his history of theft and assault through Ontario, to Victoria, to the forest near my parent's place. It was another sad story of a kid who had no father, and whose mother was a loser. But honestly, fuck that guy for terrorizing my parents. They didn't cheat or steal. Instead they worked hard to achieve some level of wealth. Fuck him for continuing to make bad decisions that affected good people.

For the record, the guy is spending 24 months in a federal pen for attacking the cop who went in to arrest him. Also, the B&E stuff, as his history of bad decisions continues.

6o4__boi

11-01-2016, 09:34 AM

Lol i have no sympathy whatsoever for people who make poor choices especially those who fuck up others' lives. I don't give a fuck how shitty your upbringing was. You play with the cards you're dealt. If you can't handle it, an hero. Vita continuat.

For every moron in this country that uses their shitty upbringing and environment as an excuse for their shitty actions and shitty life, there's a kid out there who would give anything to even have a quarter or a tiny sliver of the opportunities that these morons throw away.

Presto

11-01-2016, 09:36 AM

I put an investigator on him who found out who he was.

How much did that cost you, and how long did it take?

originalhypa

11-01-2016, 09:47 AM

How much did that cost you, and how long did it take?

A few hundred bucks, and a week to get the report. Gave a copy to the RCMP who thanked us for doing their job for them, and another to the media.

It still took the RCMP 2 weeks to catch the guy, at which time we were watching his moves on FB and on the security cameras set up by the neighbourhood watch. By then the local newspapers had picked up on the story. The guy was like a coyote in that he had a couple different places to hide out. When the RCMP finally caught up with him, it was in a house under construction. There was the struggle, and they took him down.

They sure kicked things into high gear when he posted an FB pic of him with a gun that he had taken in a different B&E.

Gumby

11-01-2016, 10:35 AM

My parents were being terrorized by a homeless man last year who was breaking into their cars, and then their house to get money for his fix. I put an investigator on him who found out who he was. I followed him on facebook (fucking millenials.....) and traced his history of theft and assault through Ontario, to Victoria, to the forest near my parent's place. It was another sad story of a kid who had no father, and whose mother was a loser. But honestly, fuck that guy for terrorizing my parents. They didn't cheat or steal. Instead they worked hard to achieve some level of wealth. Fuck him for continuing to make bad decisions that affected good people.

For the record, the guy is spending 24 months in a federal pen for attacking the cop who went in to arrest him. Also, the B&E stuff, as his history of bad decisions continues.
What a dumbass - posting his activities on Facebook... Wait, how does a homeless person get access to Facebook? :lol

Presto

11-01-2016, 10:41 AM

What a dumbass - posting his activities on Facebook... Wait, how does a homeless person get access to Facebook? :lol

Any cheap-ass smartphone can get Facebook as long as you have internet access. Wifi is everywhere.

Nlkko

11-01-2016, 11:07 AM

DI originalhypa RevScene CSI lol. Craziness.

fishCak3s

11-01-2016, 11:11 AM

A few hundred bucks, and a week to get the report. Gave a copy to the RCMP who thanked us for doing their job for them, and another to the media.

It still took the RCMP 2 weeks to catch the guy, at which time we were watching his moves on FB and on the security cameras set up by the neighbourhood watch. By then the local newspapers had picked up on the story. The guy was like a coyote in that he had a couple different places to hide out. When the RCMP finally caught up with him, it was in a house under construction. There was the struggle, and they took him down.

They sure kicked things into high gear when he posted an FB pic of him with a gun that he had taken in a different B&E.

Somehow I pictured the guy looks like the one in your avatar

originalhypa

11-01-2016, 12:04 PM

What a dumbass - posting his activities on Facebook... Wait, how does a homeless person get access to Facebook? :lol

hahaha, that was what I was thinking too!
Close to the end of his line, the media pulled a couple pics from his FB and put them in the paper. That's when he changed his privacy settings!
FailFish

DI originalhypa RevScene CSI lol. Craziness.

:fuckyea:

Somehow I pictured the guy looks like the one in your avatar

Hahaha!
No ragrets guy is dreamy. Our littlest hobo looked a little, off..... almost like a fetal alcohol child who was all grown up.
I would post a pic, but RS is big and he still has a lot of friends on the outside who have nothing to lose.

One thing that shocked me was how many pretty girls he had on his FB who were supporting him. Granted, they were from Surrey and Maple Ridge. Not the highest quality poon one can find, but nice poon nonetheless.

LUL