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Throwing dog poop in someone else's dumpster
6o4__boi
10-31-2016, 10:23 AM
Been doing this for forever, and i've been dumping my dog's bagged crap on this dumpster for a couple of years now as its on my walking route.
Anyway, some old coot on a corner unit of the building who I guess owns the dumpster basically told me to stop doing this yesterday. Told him it's none of his concern cus i'm doing nothing wrong. He said something along the lines of "we'll see about that" which i took as a threat. Kinda annoyed me cus:
a) it's not a big deal
b) you should be fucking thankful i pick up my dog's shit and throw it in an actual dumpster/trash container
c) your dumpster is unlocked with the lid propped open in an alley with no other impediments to it
for reference, my building's dumpster is behind lock and key and tucked away behind a gate.
Am I in the wrong here? I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who passes by that dumpster and throws their dog shit there.
winson604
10-31-2016, 10:39 AM
I always bring the crap home to dump in my own bin. Sure, I think in the grand scheme of things it isn't a big deal but what I think is not a big deal doesn't mean someone else feels the same way. I know for a fact lots of people don't like it and I respect their thoughts on it, plus it ain't my garbage can so I have no right to use it. I don't buy the whole their garbage can is sitting out in the lane unlocked so it's open season for me to throw shit in. Heck their lid was probably propped open because some other idiot came by and dumped shit in there then left the lid open.
Plus where do we draw the line? So crap is ok but what if I came over with a whole bag of garbage? What about a large bag of dog crap I've accumulated for a week?
Tapioca
10-31-2016, 10:46 AM
You are technically in the wrong because that dumpster belongs to another strata corporation.
In the past, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal because Metro Vancouver didn't have stringent guidelines on waste. You are throwing dog shit into a garbage bin which is still allowed in Metro, but what if you were throwing something like food waste that is now illegal? That strata corporation would have to pay fines for behaviour from someone else who does not live on he property.
They should lock the bin to be safe, but I can understand why that old coot gave you a hard time.
Then Strata should lock it and don't leave it outside where public have access to it. my building's garbage bin are be hide locked door, it got pull outside the morning just before the truck come pick it up and got pull it back into the building before noon.
murd0c
10-31-2016, 10:53 AM
I wouldn't care and I would still do it, if they were that concerned they should lock it up. At least you are being a responsible dog owner and cleaning up after him.
meme405
10-31-2016, 12:08 PM
b) you should be fucking thankful i pick up my dog's shit and throw it in an actual dumpster/trash container
At least you are being a responsible dog owner and cleaning up after him.
I'm sorry?
Picking up after your animal is not "being responsible". It is being a law abiding citizen, a quick search shows that: burnaby, nvan, west van, vancouver, richmond and coquitlam, all have municipal bylaws in place that involve a fine for not picking up after your pets.
Like someone else said, you are definitely in the wrong, regardless of if it is a minor issue, someone obviously cared enough to say something to you, so just respect their wishes and don't throw your crap in there.
We had an issue with one of our properties trash bin being used by neighboring restaurants for all their garbage, and it started to cost a lot because we had to pay for more frequent pickups. It was a hassle to lock the bin because then I have to give all the tenants keys, and make sure they always lock it after they are done (which we do now). But it would be a non-issue if the world was a respectful place and people didn't just dump their crap wherever they feel entitled to.
6o4__boi
10-31-2016, 12:16 PM
You'd be surprised how many people don't pick up after their pets. We've had an outburst of it over the summer...it's goddamned impossible to enforce.
Just pointing it out that I could easily be one of those. I could also be one of the assholes who bag it and then throw it where they see fit. But nope, if i see an open dumpster on a residential alley. I'm tossing it in there. If its closed, i'm holding onto it til i get home.
It's that simple. We're not talking about me going out of my way to abuse a situation. I'm not gonna take my home's trash and my furnitures to that dumpster. I'm talking about an open dumpster on my dog walking route. You'd be hard-pressed to find people who WOULDN'T do the same thing.
i swear RS is cutting off titles to create them as click bait :lol
"Throwing dog poop in someone..."
i was expecting this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jxd4474GsU
320icar
10-31-2016, 12:18 PM
For a different viewpoint...
My neighbor leaves the garbage bins at the end of his driveway every day, I have called and complained to the city many many times, yet he still does it. So everyone that passes by throws their dog shit bags into his garbage. In the summer the odour is absolutely unbearable.
Well, instead of putting the bins at the side of his house like he is suppose to, he will dump his garbage on the ground and leave it (yes, in the middle of the street/sidewalk) so the shit bags sit all over. Yes I have complained to the city about these actions too.
So I am an innocent bystander in this. They are not my bins nor do I own a dog. But I have to deal with these shit sacks being tossed around my car and my girlfriends car.
Throw the bags away in a city owned trash can (which line most parks and paths) or take it home. You do not have the right to use other people's garbage receptacles, even if they are being total WANKERS about it
6o4__boi
10-31-2016, 12:34 PM
alright, before this turns into a moral high ground argument
i'm genuinely curious as to what the exact wording is of the bylaw that governs this.
quick google search is yielding nothing for me
edit:
for reference this is the alley and dumpster in question
freakshow
10-31-2016, 01:13 PM
If someone asked you not to throw crap into their garbage, you shouldn't throw crap into their garbage..
edit: this has nothing to do with moral high ground.. you don't own the garbage, it's not a city garbage. The owners of the garbage asked you not to do it. don't do it.
i probably would have done the same thing too, but if the owners asked me to stop, i'd stop and throw it elsewhere.
also you're right that a lot of people don't pick up after their dogs, but to argue with someone and say they should be thankful that you do it at all is just silly.
Tapioca
10-31-2016, 01:33 PM
alright, before this turns into a moral high ground argument
i'm genuinely curious as to what the exact wording is of the bylaw that governs this.
quick google search is yielding nothing for me
edit:
for reference this is the alley and dumpster in question
It looks like that dumpster is on private land. If there's no city bylaws on the closure of private garbage bins, then as long as the dumpster is on private land, they can leave it in whatever state they want.
CivicBlues
10-31-2016, 01:43 PM
3/10 thread - would not read again.
Thread title would be more interesting if it started with "taking a poop in someone else's dumpster"
6o4__boi
10-31-2016, 01:46 PM
I guess i could've gone with
"Throwing my shit in someone else's dumpster."
But that would just trigger RS.
trollface
10-31-2016, 01:51 PM
How would you like if if i took a dump in your garbage bin, op?
Manic!
10-31-2016, 01:52 PM
Take your shit somewhere else.
CivicBlues
10-31-2016, 01:57 PM
3/10 thread - would not read again.
Thread title would be more interesting if it started with "taking a poop in someone else's dumpster"
wait wait wait...or "Taking a dump in someone else's poopster"
It's Monday :awesom:
6o4__boi
10-31-2016, 01:59 PM
How would you like if if i took a dump in your garbage bin, op?
I'm cool with it
Only if you give me consent to post the vid after
meme405
10-31-2016, 02:39 PM
alright, before this turns into a moral high ground argument
i'm genuinely curious as to what the exact wording is of the bylaw that governs this.
quick google search is yielding nothing for me
edit:
for reference this is the alley and dumpster in question
I don't understand the question. There are no bylaws which govern this, that is a private dumpster located on private property. Although it is not securely located on their property, it is still their property.
The strata of that building rents that dumpster from WM or whoever their provider is, and pays to have it emptied a number of times every week.
Just because the bin is open and readily accessible, this doesn't give you any right to put stuff in it. The same as if you were to walk up my drive way and throw your shit in my garbage can located under my car port.
You'd be hard-pressed to find people who WOULDN'T do the same thing.
I don't disagree, there are a lot of inconsiderate assholes everywhere, in this instance i'd implore you not to be one of them. Someone has asked you not to do something related to their private property, I'd respect their wishes regardless of if you think they are ridiculous or not.
Like you say, it's not hard for you to hold onto the bag until you get home.
6o4__boi
10-31-2016, 02:53 PM
The same as if you were to walk up my drive way and throw your shit in my garbage can located under my car port.
Not really, that'd be trespassing. Like I said, I wouldn't go out of my way to open the dumpster if it's closed. And I definitely wouldn't step into someone's property to throw something.
But all fair points about it being someone else's garbage.
fliptuner
10-31-2016, 03:42 PM
Who gives a shit?
MarkyMark
10-31-2016, 03:54 PM
Since they asked you to stop i'd comply, but people making it seem like you're doing some horrible act by tossing a tiny bag of shit in an open dumpster as you walk by need to relax. It's not like you walked into their complex, seeked out their dumpster and used it, it's literally something you can walk by and toss it in without skipping a beat.
Like I said since they asked you not to I'd stop doing it, but perhaps they should take some initiative and at least close that damn lid, I'm sure that would help keep smell down in the summer too.
meme405
10-31-2016, 04:04 PM
Since they asked you to stop i'd comply, but people making it seem like you're doing some horrible act by tossing a tiny bag of shit in an open dumpster as you walk by need to relax. It's not like you walked into their complex, seeked out their dumpster and used it, it's literally something you can walk by and toss it in without skipping a beat.
Like I said since they asked you not to I'd stop doing it, but perhaps they should take some initiative and at least close that damn lid, I'm sure that would help keep smell down in the summer too.
It's not a horrible act, but its also such a minor thing, that once requested why the hell wouldn't you just stop?
There is actually a sign on the bin that tells the people who use them to always lower the lid to keep out animals, and for safety so it doesn't fall on a child or something. But just like OP doesn't follow the rules about dumping on other people's property, people in that strata obviously aren't following their rules and putting down the lid after they load their garbage.
If everyone just followed the little rules, the world would be a better place...
http://aleksandrakaliszan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/rainbow-image-11-1.jpg
flagella
10-31-2016, 04:22 PM
Such an exploding thread, for such a simple matter.
twitchyzero
10-31-2016, 04:40 PM
it' hard to understand the mentality "oh but it was opened/unlocked"
it's more convenient, so what? if it's not your's, and someone asked you to stop, then be on your way and don't do it any more.
why do you need to search high and low for a bylaw for something so straight forward?
7seven
10-31-2016, 04:59 PM
IMO this really isn't a big deal but technically you are in the wrong since the dumpster is for private use. Honestly I would have done the same thing and thrown the bagged dog waste in a near by garbage, but if asked by the owner not to anymore I'd just comply since its his property.
This situation actually happened in my LA building with some random guy that kept dumping his dog waste and cat litter, the building manager filed a complaint and the guy got fined like $800 :haha: since technically placing garbage into a private dumpster without the permission of the owner is considered illegal dumping and punishable by the same section under the California penal code, a misdemeanor charge, a second charge of theft of services may apply too.
Was trying to quickly find something on the City of Vancouver website for you but they just say to contact the VPD for illegal dumping on private property. I would image most Canadian municipalities have similar laws regarding illegal dumping, city of Hamilton has more detailed information https://www.hamilton.ca/garbage-recycling/garbage-bulk-items/illegal-dumping
When someone puts waste materials on City or private property without the permission of the property owner it is considered illegal dumping.
Examples of illegal dumping include:
dumping bulk items such as couches, bags of household waste and construction materials along the roadside, escarpment or in alleyways or parks
placing household waste in waste collection containers that are in a park or on a street
placing items around a donation drop box that will not fit inside such as furniture or large toys
placing waste in private dumpsters
Fines for illegal dumping can vary however the maximum fine upon conviction is $10,000
I'm going to laugh if your next post is a complaint that the VPD or city called/fined you because this guy filed a complaint against you for throwing your dog crap in his dumpster lol
Nlkko
10-31-2016, 05:05 PM
First world problem.... It's such a minor thing, I would let them lose sleep over it and don't do the same thing. Find another garbage bin, so many around, including your own. :drunk:
Apparently garbage bin is pretty personal. Weren't there a story in news a while back... some dude in North Van collect all the dog poop and put them on the guy's roof. So much effort for such a trivia thing. :heckno:
MarkyMark
10-31-2016, 05:35 PM
it' hard to understand the mentality "oh but it was opened/unlocked"
it's more convenient, so what? if it's not your's, and someone asked you to stop, then be on your way and don't do it any more.
why do you need to search high and low for a bylaw for something so straight forward?
Yeah I agree that if they ask you to stop then you should just find another way to get rid of it. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but in the past if I was ever walking around my neighborhood and I happened to have a piece of trash from the corner store or whatever, and it happened to be garbage day and everyone had their trash bins on the curb, I'd toss it in their bin. Yeah it was just more convenient than holding onto it until I got home, it's not like I walked up someone's driveway and used it.
I guess everyone has their vices, lol.
winson604
10-31-2016, 09:21 PM
Comments like you would be hard pressed not to find other people doing the same imo is not the mentality you should go about things. I agree, you would be hard pressed not to find people doing the same or even picking up their dogs crap at all but you can't control what others do. You can control your own actions and just because others do it doesn't make it more acceptable for you to do it.
snowball
10-31-2016, 09:56 PM
A small bag of dog poop has little impact in the grand scheme of things.
But technically, it's private garbage that they pay to have taken away. So if not you're paying for it, you shouldn't be using it. Doesn't matter if it's not locked or open.
twitchyzero
10-31-2016, 10:05 PM
Yeah I agree that if they ask you to stop then you should just find another way to get rid of it. Maybe I'm just an asshole, but in the past if I was ever walking around my neighborhood and I happened to have a piece of trash from the corner store or whatever, and it happened to be garbage day and everyone had their trash bins on the curb, I'd toss it in their bin. Yeah it was just more convenient than holding onto it until I got home, it's not like I walked up someone's driveway and used it.
I guess everyone has their vices, lol.
if it's once or twice i'm sure most would not bat an eye
it's ongoing for years which is why one of the residents said something
Gucci Mane
10-31-2016, 10:06 PM
so some of you walk around holding your dogs poop for an hour or longer? really? ya'll are nuts. lol.
not sure about vancouver but in surrey at certain alley ways or public grounds theres always a black waste bin available to throw away your dog poop. i've got a couple different routes i take my dog on but they all start off going the same way so i can throw away his poop and not have to walk around for a fucking hour holding the bag.
twitchyzero
10-31-2016, 10:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7PXtR8Nec4
winson604
10-31-2016, 10:23 PM
so some of you walk around holding your dogs poop for an hour or longer? really? ya'll are nuts. lol.
not sure about vancouver but in surrey at certain alley ways or public grounds theres always a black waste bin available to throw away your dog poop. i've got a couple different routes i take my dog on but they all start off going the same way so i can throw away his poop and not have to walk around for a fucking hour holding the bag.
Nope I tie the bag of poop onto the leash and it's basically out of sight out of mind.
E-SPEC
10-31-2016, 10:28 PM
Who cleans up when guide dogs shit?
http://discountdogpoopbags.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/dog-clean-up-poop.jpg
fsy82
11-01-2016, 08:51 AM
2 pages for throwing dog shit..wtf is wrong with our society..lol..at least he threw it in a garbage bin..
turb0triX
11-06-2016, 03:03 PM
https://i.redd.it/ds4sfnm2kzvx.jpg
flagella
11-07-2016, 05:11 AM
Ops repost
SaviorSelf_666
11-07-2016, 09:15 AM
Just get this like I have? Not hard to find a solution......
Clips on to a leash and holds like 30 bags.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161107/f5422c55b917e691d74d97834a380b7f.jpg
Verdasco
11-07-2016, 09:44 AM
I would tackle the fuck out of anyone who would put dog poop in my garbage bin
I would make sure you would pick it back out as well.
negged
edit: negs on recharge...
godwin
11-07-2016, 11:33 AM
The problem is with the garbage collection in Metro Vancouver. A sharp eye garbage collector can refuse pickup, then you have to go to the city to deal with all that. It happened to my neighbor before, who live at the corner or an intersection which is "convenient" for dog walkers.. It is a small thing until you are the one who has to dump the garbage and clean it out yourself.
What to do with dog poo (http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/solid-waste/detached-homes/reduce-garbage-home/dog-poo/Pages/default.aspx)
Pet waste is listed as prohibited from the region's garbage, but small amounts are accepted preferably double-bagged and put in the next pick-up.
We want to limit the amount of dog waste going to the landfill. It’s potentially hazardous to staff and it also produces methane, a powerful green house gas. On warm days it smells in bags, the garbage bin and work places. We encourage the alternatives listed above.
Nlkko
11-07-2016, 02:59 PM
I see garbage pickup trucks use a crane thing to lift the gray bin up. They dont even get out of the truck anymore.
godwin
11-08-2016, 06:24 AM
They don't get out now because in the cab there is a new invention you probably haven't heard of called cameras?
Also the pick up operator is supposed to keep the items go to the proper waste stream, if they don't make to a ratio they get written up for it..
I see garbage pickup trucks use a crane thing to lift the gray bin up. They dont even get out of the truck anymore.
The_AK
11-08-2016, 07:51 AM
these are the quality posts i always return for
coneZONE
11-08-2016, 08:03 PM
...meanwhile, I am trying to find out which buttface keeps dumping their baggies of poop in the bushes in our front yard
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