[clevernickname]

Don't live near a main road and don't want to find out by driving on them. Referring to lower mainland area. I've only been on 33rd today and didn't see any there. But maybe something like 41st or broadway is salted?

[meme405]

Yes, they salt and brine the roads almost all winter long. even if the temps only hover around 0C they are still salting at nights.

[clevernickname]

Ah ok. Are you guys who have another DD not driving your performance/sports cars for most of winter? I'm wondering how bad it will be for my car with all the salt. And not wanting to spray it down every time I use it.

[Dragon-88]

Its all personal choice, you could always use car2go or those other car options If you aren't content with using your own vehicle. Most people who have 2 vehicles always drive the lesser vehicle in these conditions.

[meme405]

Ah ok. Are you guys who have another DD not driving your performance/sports cars for most of winter? I'm wondering how bad it will be for my car with all the salt. And not wanting to spray it down every time I use it.

Totally depends on the person.

Some see it as a badge of honor to drive their car all the time, these are the types of people who like to rub it in others faces that they daily drive a gutted race car, or a 600hp beast with a stage 3 clutch, or a ferrari. Some of these people are the type who make fun of others for not driving their cars all year round.

And then there is the other group, guys who put their cars in storage for the winter, or park their cars when the weather gets bad, usually they drive some sort of daily, or a different car which may be: More reliable, less valuable (sentimentally or $$), safer, better equipped, etc.

Do whatever you want, if you love your car and would be heartbroken to see someone run into it, or see it rust, or have a dirty undercarriage then just park it, and buy something else, or transit, or car2go, whatever. If you don't care, or aren't bothered by it, and will simply fix your car if something happens, then by all means drive it.

It all comes down to personal preference, and ignore anyone who tells you otherwise. Parking your car doesn't make you a better owner, and driving your racecar year round doesn't make you more of an enthusiast.

[6o4__boi]

if you live in the LM it honestly doesn't get that bad to the point where you have to worry about the salt/road conditions affecting your car

[nsx042003]

Rinse the wheelwells and underside every night after you've used it on the road.

[meme405]

if you live in the LM it honestly doesn't get that bad to the point where you have to worry about the salt/road conditions affecting your car

He does have a ford though...

I've heard, I wouldn't know since I've never owned one, but I've heard that on a nice night, if you sit and admire your ford, and you listen really closely, you can actually hear it rusting away to nothingness.

:troll:

[68style]

Why is anyone with a brand new car in BC even asking this question? Come back concerned when your car is 20 years old and you live in Toronto or something...

[twitchyzero]

Why is anyone with a brand new car in BC even asking this question? Come back concerned when your car is 20 years old and you live in Toronto or something...

babying a vehicle should start when it's new and not when rust has already started to form?

i mean some dont even like driving their toys in the rain...there's no point debating what's right and what's overly-sensitive.

[SkunkWorks]

Why is anyone with a brand new car in BC even asking this question? Come back concerned when your car is 20 years old and you live in Toronto or something...

Well you are talking to a guy who is trying to seek diminished value from a side mirror popping off...

:pokerface:

[320icar]

Don't live near a main road and don't want to find out by driving on them. Referring to lower mainland area. I've only been on 33rd today and didn't see any there. But maybe something like 41st or broadway is salted?

Lol, what do you drive, a Toyota 2000gt or something? It's Vancouver, the most mild climate in Canada. Deal with it

[lilaznviper]

OP... problem solved
http://i.imgur.com/CsVfkDQ.jpg

[clevernickname]

Damn, sorry I've offended so many people.

[Mancini]

No, they're not salted still. I'm sure the truck moves while salting.

[GLOW]

604_boi's right...

Damn, sorry I've offended so many people.

they're not offended...no need to get salty...

aaaaaand i'm done....

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Grandpa_e3efae_976974.gif

[underscore]

If driving a vehicle in the GVRD through the winter was so bad for it, why do all the cars driven by people who wash them maybe once a year still look fine? If you're concerned, wash the underside and wheel wells semi-regularly, but there's really nothing to worry about in BC.

OP... problem solved
http://i.imgur.com/CsVfkDQ.jpg

Pretty sure that'll make it rust even more since it's trapping the moisture.

[- kT]

I picked up new wheels for the rice rocket a few months back with polished lips. salt messes that up pretty good so I opted to buy a cheap EG for this year. glad I did too, with the winter that's incoming. to each their own as mentioned, but salt + potential for accidents + general increased wear on the exterior and interior.. didn't mind shelling out a few hundred bucks for a beater

[originalhypa]

Even a car in storage will degrade this time of year. Unless my garage is heated all winter, my polished aluminum and chrome parts oxidize just sitting there.

Dat feel you get when your polished intercooler takes a beating, even though you coated it with Zoop Seal......


:okay:

[Akinari]

When most of your car is plastic :awwyeah:

I still try and spray down the doors and underbody or anywhere else that accumulates salt after every drive though. Doesn't hurt to do so, can only prolong the car's longevity, even if it's a DD so why not?

[Reeyal]

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder90/500x/64158090.jpg

Don't worry about the salt in LM. Just wash the underside often.

[The_AK]

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder90/500x/64158090.jpg

Don't worry about the salt in LM. Just wash the underside often.

refer to my sig

[swfk]

I do agree about the driving your car instead of preserving its value. But I still refuse to drive my S2000 when the roads are salted. Sure saves me a lot of headaches to clean the under carriage and future seized bolts.

[meme405]

I do agree about the driving your car instead of preserving its value. But I still refuse to drive my S2000 when the roads are salted. Sure saves me a lot of headaches to clean the under carriage and future seized bolts.

Exactly, most people I'd challenge aren't doing it to preserve the value of their car, they do it to preserve it's condition, and not for someone elses enjoyment, but for their own enjoyment/sanity.

[!LittleDragon]

Unless you own a rare car... like really really rare, a car is not an investment. It will lose value. It will cost you money to own and operate. It will not make you money.

Just drive it, if you plan to keep it then take care of it. I'm on my second new car in 5 years and I never wash it... lol... I know I'll be trading it in for another new car. Wear and tear/corrosion/curbed wheels/scraped undercarriage... next guy's problem... lol

[EX-R]

seems like some the guys here that say its ok to drive your nice car during the winter are the guys that dont work on their cars. Im sure they havent come across seized bolts or even bolt heads that have become round because of rust. I used to have a wrx and drove that thing everywhere. Drove it up to cypress numerous times. I had it for a while and just seeing the difference of the underbody when i got it compared to before I sold it is huge. Salt is aggressive on cars and its components. A 30 min job to replace something could turn into a 3 hour headache due to rust. I guess none of that matters if you pay someone else to do the work on your car anyways.

[The_AK]

^lol or some guys on here drive their nice car because its the only car they have. That being said I'm tempted to pick up a cheap e36 beater for situations like this

[meme405]

^lol or some guys on here drive their nice car because its the only car they have. That being said I'm tempted to pick up a cheap e36 beater for situations like this

And that's understandable, it's a luxury to have somewhere you can store your car safely, and be able to afford another car just for when you don't want to drive your pleasure car.

[Manic!]

Just plastidip the bottom 1/2 of the car. Problem solved.

[threezero]

Since the winter "beater" I got actually turn into my new project car and Instead of driving it this winter I took it apart for the winter lol. I'm force to drive my summer ride this year on winter tires.

I do work on my own cars and i know all about the headache of rust and seized bolts. If I ran the car thru touchless car wash everyweek will that make a big difference? And no washing the undercarriage out everyday is not going to happen....

[mb_]

I ran my FRS through touchless car washes every week or 2 last winter and the under carriage nozzles did a pretty good job cleaning up all the salt and what not

[Mr.C]

seems like some the guys here that say its ok to drive your nice car during the winter are the guys that dont work on their cars. Im sure they havent come across seized bolts or even bolt heads that have become round because of rust. I used to have a wrx and drove that thing everywhere. Drove it up to cypress numerous times. I had it for a while and just seeing the difference of the underbody when i got it compared to before I sold it is huge. Salt is aggressive on cars and its components. A 30 min job to replace something could turn into a 3 hour headache due to rust. I guess none of that matters if you pay someone else to do the work on your car anyways.

I daily my E38, idgaf. They made over 16k of them, when it rusts I'll just get another one.

Unless your car is super rare, just drive it.

[threezero]

I ran my FRS through touchless car washes every week or 2 last winter and the under carriage nozzles did a pretty good job cleaning up all the salt and what not

how many winter have you been thru with the frs so far?

[mb_]

how many winter have you been thru with the frs so far?

This will be my second

[cho]

This will be my second

which touchless has undercarriage wash?

[Fcukedd]

Husky touchless wash

http://www.myhusky.ca/assets/images/instore/car-wash.jpg

[Lomac]

seems like some the guys here that say its ok to drive your nice car during the winter are the guys that dont work on their cars. Im sure they havent come across seized bolts or even bolt heads that have become round because of rust. I used to have a wrx and drove that thing everywhere. Drove it up to cypress numerous times. I had it for a while and just seeing the difference of the underbody when i got it compared to before I sold it is huge. Salt is aggressive on cars and its components. A 30 min job to replace something could turn into a 3 hour headache due to rust. I guess none of that matters if you pay someone else to do the work on your car anyways.

I work on all of my cars, regardless of if it's my winter beater or summer car. If you take care of your car properly during winter, it wont be any different working underneath than a summer only car.

[godwin]

I only use car wash if I am back from driving on the Coq. I don't see much of a point using it other wise.

You want your car to last? Keep it in a garage. Extreme temperature fluctuations cause more problems with different materials expanding / contracting at different rates than anything. How do you think "recyclable" plastic know when to break down?

Oh one tip, spend time, applying some silicone grease to your door seals, and also the mating surfaces.

Though have to say, my BMW shoe hasn't been started for over a year. I used to drive that around the year.


Since the winter "beater" I got actually turn into my new project car and Instead of driving it this winter I took it apart for the winter lol. I'm force to drive my summer ride this year on winter tires.

I do work on my own cars and i know all about the headache of rust and seized bolts. If I ran the car thru touchless car wash everyweek will that make a big difference? And no washing the undercarriage out everyday is not going to happen....

[E-SPEC]

Worry about someone more worrisome, like are our children's children gonna have a world to grow up in. Thats what the fuck i'm worried about!!

[MarkyMark]

While the temps are still freezing the salt won't do a whole lot in terms of corrosion. Make sure you wash it off when the temps start heating up again.

Parking in a heated garage when your car is caked in salt is worse than parking outside.

[!LittleDragon]

seems like some the guys here that say its ok to drive your nice car during the winter are the guys that dont work on their cars. Im sure they havent come across seized bolts or even bolt heads that have become round because of rust. I used to have a wrx and drove that thing everywhere. Drove it up to cypress numerous times. I had it for a while and just seeing the difference of the underbody when i got it compared to before I sold it is huge. Salt is aggressive on cars and its components. A 30 min job to replace something could turn into a 3 hour headache due to rust. I guess none of that matters if you pay someone else to do the work on your car anyways.

I used to do all that. Did it for 10 years then one day, I just had enough... went out and bought a new car with warranty the same day. Also on that day, I realized a car is not something to be proud of, it does not define who I am. It's a tool that gets me from A to B and I need it to be comfy, reliable and quick. When it's no longer one of these three things, I get another tool.

[meme405]

Worry about someone more worrisome, like are our children's children gonna have a world to grow up in. Thats what the fuck i'm worried about!!

Why worry about our childrens children, when there are people in this world today who are starving and dying. If you live your life in constant agony over the future, and suffering, you are going to have a sad life.

I used to do all that. Did it for 10 years then one day, I just had enough... went out and bought a new car with warranty the same day. Also on that day, I realized a car is not something to be proud of, it does not define who I am. It's a tool that gets me from A to B and I need it to be comfy, reliable and quick. When it's no longer one of these three things, I get another tool.

You my friend, just skipped from being a member of the car enthusiast community to being just some other random person on the street. You just moved from being the 1% who cares and enjoys car, to being part of the 99% who don't care. Have fun!

[jpark]

I used to daily my s2000 all year. Until when i tried to work on the car in spring and noticed the coilover collars have corroded to shit along with bunch of other components
Ever since then I've been buying a daily/beater to boot around every winter

[!LittleDragon]

You my friend, just skipped from being a member of the car enthusiast community to being just some other random person on the street. You just moved from being the 1% who cares and enjoys car, to being part of the 99% who don't care. Have fun!

Yup, having lots of fun... being able to drive it and have it do 0-60 in 5 seconds all day, every day... that's fun. Stressing about how I'll get to work the next day because the alternator died again... not fun... Priorities change, a car isn't something you should be worried about.

[The_AK]

I used to do all that. Did it for 10 years then one day, I just had enough... went out and bought a new car with warranty the same day. Also on that day, I realized a car is not something to be proud of, it does not define who I am. It's a tool that gets me from A to B and I need it to be comfy, reliable and quick. When it's no longer one of these three things, I get another tool.

So what you bought was an appliance? :lawl:

Jokes aside, there's definitely some validity in your comment. For some people its just a phase like skateboarding in their teens to photography to cars to home ownership and decking out your crib in the latest from Urban Barn. I felt the same way about photography lol used to enjoy it until it got annoying and moved on to other interests.

[MarkyMark]

One of these days when I'm older I'm going to own a real piece of shit car. I'm going to park in the closest parking spots even if my car barely fits and I'm not going to give a fuck if someone dings or scratches it.

It's going to be glorious.

[meme405]

Yup, having lots of fun... being able to drive it and have it do 0-60 in 5 seconds all day, every day... that's fun. Stressing about how I'll get to work the next day because the alternator died again... not fun... Priorities change, a car isn't something you should be worried about.

Absolutely, although my post had a little bit of a ribbing tone, I was only kidding around. As AK pointed out, people fall in and out of hobbies all the time. NBD.

I can't imagine those who have to live with having a project car as their only means of transportation. There's something to be said for having a solid means of transportation (a tool as you say), and then of course having a show car, track car, or other vehicle as a toy to play with on the side.

You're right, when you get into your car to go to work in the morning, it needs to just work, and it needs to be able to do the things a normal car can do, AKA get into parking lots, and over speed bumps, be semi comfortable, suit your lifestyle, etc.

[6o4__boi]

why not now? LOL i'm sure any beater can be had for ~$500, assuming insurance for winter months will run $300-$400 so ~$800 all in...might even save money on gas depending on what car you'll be sitting.

more or less the same cost as buying a brand new set of winter tires
:lawl:
i might actually consider that when my winters need replacing

[GS8]

Yup, having lots of fun... being able to drive it and have it do 0-60 in 5 seconds all day, every day... that's fun. Stressing about how I'll get to work the next day because the alternator died again... not fun... Priorities change, a car isn't something you should be worried about.

Yes

For the price of an alternator, I can buy a lot of dandelion and cremini. Yup, weed and mushrooms can take me to places no car ever can.

[underscore]

One of these days when I'm older I'm going to own a real piece of shit car. I'm going to park in the closest parking spots even if my car barely fits and I'm not going to give a fuck if someone dings or scratches it.

It's going to be glorious.

Welcome to owning an offroader. When I had my YJ I didn't give a shit what people did to it as I'd already done much worse myself.

[Tone Loc]

While the temps are still freezing the salt won't do a whole lot in terms of corrosion. Make sure you wash it off when the temps start heating up again.

Parking in a heated garage when your car is caked in salt is worse than parking outside.

This. My dad's 2003 CR-V has always been parked outside and daily driven, even in snow/salt. He washes the car at the Royal Oak wash place every 2 weeks when they salt the roads, the high-pressure rinse works really well on the underbody. To this day the bottom of his car looks nearly new.

OP: On a newer car you don't have to worry, just wash the car more often than normal. Make sure to be extra thorough with the fender wells and undercarriage.

[mb_]

which touchless has undercarriage wash?

I went to Esso or Husky depending on where I was

[extracrunchie]

I used to daily my s2000 all year. Until when i tried to work on the car in spring and noticed the coilover collars have corroded to shit along with bunch of other components
Ever since then I've been buying a daily/beater to boot around every winter

My weapon against corroded coilovers....coilover socks is a thing!!!!
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161128/18da65118700c3c376ff99d077aa67cb.jpg

This is what sold me, a guy from the FR-S forums ran the covers in the front and didn't in the rear for a full winter season. You can tell the covers did their job.
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww47/Overland04/_J0A9959.jpg

[trollguy]

cheap coilovers are also a thing!

[Urrtoast]

So is having a beater winter car.... lol

[underscore]

And stock suspension. Or just normal lowering springs. Aren't those Stance coils pretty cheap anyways?

[extracrunchie]

^^^Ya I think stance coils are on the lower end, but a $30 cover can save you some headaches with rusted threads. Why not?

[The_AK]

Hey op, roads are definitely salted now

[threezero]

I went to Esso or Husky depending on where I was

I got some cheap kumho snow tires on the frs now. Man rwd LSD with snow tire is a hooligan in the snow. this car is super compose and controllable in the snow.

I guess I just have to keep taking it to touchless car wash to prevent the rust and corrosion? Do you have any suspension mods or exhaust mods on your frs? How is that holding up in the salt?

[snowball]

can confirm, I am salted.

[HonestTea]

I went to Esso or Husky depending on where I was

Which one do you prefer or are they about the same?

Do you know if Shine Auto Wash(Royal Oak or Main St) is touchless as well?

[Akinari]

I love the new(ish) Mobil 1 wash in Richmond on Bridgeport and No.5, always does a great job. It's not a Laser Wash, forgot the name of it, but it's the equivalent. Great touchless wash.

[ime2006]

I love the new(ish) Mobil 1 wash in Richmond on Bridgeport and No.5, always does a great job. It's not a Laser Wash, forgot the name of it, but it's the equivalent. Great touchless wash.

i thought thats just a place to change engine oil.....lol

How much are they charging for touchless wash ??

[threezero]

There is also washworld at no4 think it's like $23 for a full wash with their shitty wax and undercarriage wash. Notice the husky one has rust protection that other don't have or didn't advertise

[Tr1ll]

How are the Petro Canada car washes?

[SkunkWorks]

There is also washworld at no4 think it's like $23 for a full wash with their shitty wax and undercarriage wash. Notice the husky one has rust protection that other don't have or didn't advertise

"Rust protection" from a car wash...? I suppose spraying off salt counts.

Don't buy into the marketing.

[hk20000]

-9 today I'm glad the salt is still out there

[Akinari]

i thought thats just a place to change engine oil.....lol

How much are they charging for touchless wash ??
They have a touchless wash which is, in my opinion equal or better than the Laserwash 360. It's made by Saber, one of those fancy new LED multi-arm systems. I do believe the water pressure is much higher than the Laserwash systems most other touchless wash places have.

Has a super high pressure wheel/lower body spray on both sides together with a super high pressure underbody spray when first driving in, and I think the timer is set for 40 seconds iirc so you can spray every bit of your underbody very well.

Iirc it's $13/15/17? Pretty sure all tiers have the underbody spray but the mid-tier and up has the wheel and lower body spray added. $17 gets you triple down, RainX and double rinse or double high pressure soak and extended drying I think.

It's still incredibly new and clean cause not many people know they have a car wash there, they don't exactly advertise it :derp:

[godwin]

It depends how long you leave the car out for. Just because it is freezing doesn't mean corrosion is not happening. In fact you are packing a lot more moisture in this climate with all the snow and gunk.

Assuming most heated garages would have a much lower ambient humidity, basically the snow will fall off and your drive off, things dries and stopping the electrolytic reaction. My thermostat tells me my garage is about 40% vs 80%+ outside.

You leave it outside, the electrolytic reactions will still go on and you have temperature variations to deal with.

For overnight ie say 8+ hours.. keep it indoors.

A simple comparison, take any metal tools eg screwdriver etc. one leave outside, one you take in and out day in and day out.. you will see a difference.

While the temps are still freezing the salt won't do a whole lot in terms of corrosion. Make sure you wash it off when the temps start heating up again.

Parking in a heated garage when your car is caked in salt is worse than parking outside.

[The_AK]

Don't live near a main road and don't want to find out by driving on them. Referring to lower mainland area. I've only been on 33rd today and didn't see any there. But maybe something like 41st or broadway is salted?

Nah, you're good to go :thumbsup: