[ScratchedMy991]

My sport compact tuning days are behind me...at least for now. I never thought I'd do this but...I want to go VIP; specifically with an AWD car. My budget allows for one of the following:

1) Acura RL: '05 - '12
2) Infiniti G/M/Q50
3) Lexus GS: '05 - 11

All right, I don't want to go full VIP, at least in terms of suspension, as I have no interest in providing transport to the local insect population. As I did with my previous cars, I insist on doing this without idiotic negative camber or strut-destroying spring-only setups.

I've read that lowering for AWD cars is impossible/difficult. My online searches have yielded minimal results on what products (springs, struts, coilovers) are available to do this. I've read about vibration/wobble problems in lowered AWD cars. Airbags should only be for crash protection and arguably, on girls.

Can the VIP crowd advise on which directions I should be heading if I'm to take this seriously?

Also, which (if any) of the local shops specialize in serving Vancouver's VIP car community?

[meme405]

This is VIP:

http://fatlace.com/lacedup/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/DSC_0678.jpg

http://www.stancenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/toyota-celsior-vip-camber-japan-lexus-ls430-1.jpg

This is a lifestyle, it's an art form. If you want to take it seriously, this car will not be your daily driver. Lowering, big body kits, expensive accessories, that's the norm. Guys who spend thousands on throw pillows and curtains, seat upholstery, sound systems, etc.

The accessories portion is personal preference, and there isn't really a "shop" you can go to. It's something based on the owners taste and style.

In terms of suspension, bodywork, etc. The only shop I know of locally who does VIP/Street Style stuff is SerialNine.

Personally if I was to go VIP, I'd go for the USDM style:

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12976131_1890241507869060_2059269090_n.jpg?ig_cach e_key=MTIzNDI2OTI3MjU2NzQxMDY1Mw%3D%3D.2

Not so much the over the top body kits and stuff they do in Japan, but clean subtle lines, super low, and just in general "clean".

[smoothie.]

i prefer non stupid stanced camber stuff like this VIP

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk226/ddougan6669/IMG_1436_zps98a9ac54.jpg

[TouringTeg]

I had a 00 RL on Anceltion coilvers and Wed Kranze and then an 02 Q45 on Junction Produce springs (not low enough). (Also a VIPstyle SC400) I learned that it is all about the stance and wheel fitment. If I was to do it again I would go Air Runner or other air setup.

Check out vipstylecars.com for plenty of info. Some platforms have more aftermarket support than others.

x2 for Serialnine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/2000%20Acura%20RL/051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Touring240/media/2000%20Acura%20RL/051.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/Maya%20DX2/Rearpic39.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Touring240/media/Maya%20DX2/Rearpic39.jpg.html)

[Timpo]

http://www.automesseweb.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/main_DSC9449.jpg

[Timpo]

http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/storage/834854/plus/2c1cb7db37.jpg

[Timpo]

http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/000/971/363/971363/p1.jpg
http://www.stancenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lexus-gs-vip-style-aimgain-11.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0016/10/73/16080137_large.jpg

[Indy]

FYI for the 1st Gen G AWD, there's only a few coilover options and mostly from "cheap" coilover manufacturers(BC Racing, Megan, D2, Stance, Fortune) and unless you want to rip front boots all day long you need to keep the front up at 26.5" (this is about a 2" drop from factory) fender lip to ground at the lowest.

I'm not sure what the options are for the 2nd Gen G AWD and Q50 AWD.

[Timpo]

1991 Toyota Aristo (JDM equivalent of Lexus GS)

http://www.autofashionusa.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/SMARTLINEJZS14-1.jpg

[SaviorSelf_666]

i prefer non stupid stanced camber stuff like this VIP

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk226/ddougan6669/IMG_1436_zps98a9ac54.jpg

Oh man that's my old winter car!

https://i.imgur.com/Cixuiec.jpg

[hud 91gt]

I had a 00 RL on Anceltion coilvers and Wed Kranze and then an 02 Q45 on Junction Produce springs (not low enough). (Also a VIPstyle SC400) I learned that it is all about the stance and wheel fitment. If I was to do it again I would go Air Runner or other air setup.

Check out vipstylecars.com for plenty of info. Some platforms have more aftermarket support than others.

x2 for Serialnine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/2000%20Acura%20RL/051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Touring240/media/2000%20Acura%20RL/051.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/Maya%20DX2/Rearpic39.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Touring240/media/Maya%20DX2/Rearpic39.jpg.html)

You've always had such great taste when modifying cars. Sometimes they aren't my style, but always tasteful. Great stable for sure.

[Urrtoast]

Seriously this off camber look is so stupid IMHO. Complete waste of handling and tires.

[ForeverYours]

Not much of a VIP community around here.
This was my car 3 years ago. I went for a slightly sportier look, didn't like the look of those heavy full-faced VIP wheels

The accessories were expensive, can't believe I spent $500 on window curtains =___=

28193

[320icar]

Just get an AWD sienna

[originalhypa]

Just get an AWD sienna

I'm with you.
I drove by Nmotion today and their Odyssey is pimp. For my money, it's still about the function and nothing beats a van or big wagon.

I know it's not true Bippu, but these cars kill the scene.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3926/14436775830_a437caf514_b.jpg

I would take this Legacy wagon over most other cars on the road.
http://ridesandstyling.com/database/images/2014/04/subaru-legacy-black-vip-modular-vxs-210-10.jpg

[Timpo]

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/car-auction/cabinet/img58842443.jpghttp://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/001/075/733/1075733/p1.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4e/b6/2a/4eb62a916df57e8e9b74b63fd2078261.jpg
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data//500/whg.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/001/347/738/1347738/p1.jpg
http://www.junction-produce.co.jp/html/upload/save_image/05141719_5191f393deeb3.jpg
http://www.junction-produce.co.jp/html/upload/save_image/05141719_5191f3776bec8.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/418/540/3418540/p1.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/017/065/3017065/p1.jpg

[Timpo]

https://www.imcshop.com/image/cima/aero/1010130170.jpg
https://alscarstuff.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/cima-f50_006.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCar/191161/p1.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/246/106/3246106/p5.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/246/106/3246106/p7.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/945/249/3945249/p6.jpg
http://img.shblog.jp/image/raw/gundamseries/56586eeb8a6b2.jpg
http://www.sas-autosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gm8ybcct.JPG

[The_AK]

http://www.just-spinner-rims.com/images2/donk-5.jpg

http://carhoots.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/11/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WtY90jGk5Qk/maxresdefault.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KVmReQtTNJk/Sq6SXerG9wI/AAAAAAAABns/WFjbN_JfB10/s1600/M+and+M+Jak+Boys+car+(2).jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/20/ce/f9/20cef95e5ae50794fea14f6c5b8d83d5.jpg

[white rocket]

^^LOL. Donk is not VIP/Bippu.

I like some of the VIP stuff but the extreme stuff is not for me. A big luxury Japanese sedan is nice with a set of wheels and bags but radiused fenders, crazy camber, huge body kits are not my style at all. But they are what separate a good car from a great car within the scene. SerialNine are pretty well known when I think of local VIP style.

[The_AK]

^^LOL. Donk is not VIP/Bippu.

I like some of the VIP stuff but the extreme stuff is not for me. A big luxury Japanese sedan is nice with a set of wheels and bags but radiused fenders, crazy camber, huge body kits are not my style at all. But they are what separate a good car from a great car within the scene. SerialNine are pretty well known when I think of local VIP style.

u got it twisted mayne, USDM VIP

[Timpo]

u got it twisted mayne, USDM VIP

Japanese people do mod American luxury cars.

https://libertyvip.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/silvercaddy__vipcar_1280.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/userstorage/000/025/983/032/5eafee3206.jpg
https://dirtypenguin.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_ll92a78gtx1qddq7go1_1280.jpg
https://dirtypenguin.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tumblr_ll928ksswq1qddq7go1_1280.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCarPhoto/1214520/p1.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/001/525/343/1525343/p2.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCar/315469/p1.jpg
http://www.stancenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/aimgain-vip-chrysler-300-c-vipstyle.jpg
http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/img/c300/p28b.jpg

[flagella]

Def recommend going VIP so you can help plow the snow off the street when city workers are sleeping.

[The_AK]

^they do

http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/09/forgiato+fest+japan+lexus+32s+featured.png

[asian_XL]

MB VIP

[Expresso]

Essentially OP doesn't want VIP. You just want a lowered sedan...

[Timpo]

MB VIP

http://www.wald.co.jp/parts_acce/carrange/benz/s_class/w140_exe/img/w140_exe_01.jpg
http://www.wald.co.jp/parts_acce/carrange/benz/s_class/w140_exe/img/w140_exe_02.jpg
http://www.wald.co.jp/parts_acce/carrange/benz/s_class/w140_exe/img/w140_exe_03.jpg

[ScratchedMy991]

Timpo, while the pictures you've posted are undoubtedly gorgeous, please don't swamp this thread with countless pictures as you usually do. I'm just looking for information on lowering an AWD sedan in my quest for semi-VIPness and/or information on shops specializing in the VIP look.

[twitchyzero]

http://www.wald.co.jp/parts_acce/carrange/benz/s_class/w140_exe/img/w140_exe_02.jpg


sweet jesus that's bitchin'

[godwin]

Nearly all AWD comes from factory about an inch higher than stock, usually to accommodate the extra height required for the extra differential.

Among your choices, I would pick Infiniti, since there are just more of them out there. Remember AWD is a subset.

You would have to worry about the weird geometry would do to the extra drive train, probably more wear and tear especially on the transmission.. especially if driving on pot holed roads.

You should contact meme, doing a VIP on an Infiniti shouldn't be that different between models as they are all essentially the same platform.

As long as you have $$$ it is not a problem.. however you since you said "budget" in the first sentence that will become a problem.

[ForeverYours]

VIP on a budget :troll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xU6sZYyC2g

[meme405]

You should contact meme, doing a VIP on an Infiniti shouldn't be that different between models as they are all essentially the same platform.

Funny you mention it, if I hadn't started one stupid project my current pick for a car to start building would be the new M56/Q70.

http://www.infinitiusa.com/content/dam/infiniti/vehicles/sedan/q70l/2016/highlights/sensory-design/2016-infiniti-q70l-sedan-exterior-features-design-01.jpg

Hermiosa Blue with Black interior. Make sure you get the long wheel base and the 5.6 V8 engine.

Slam it to the ground on bags, some subtle front fascia work, subtle rear diffuser and exhaust work, sick set of wheels.

:sweetjesus:

[Timpo]

Funny you mention it, if I hadn't started one stupid project my current pick for a car to start building would be the new M56/Q70.

http://www.infinitiusa.com/content/dam/infiniti/vehicles/sedan/q70l/2016/highlights/sensory-design/2016-infiniti-q70l-sedan-exterior-features-design-01.jpg

Hermiosa Blue with Black interior. Make sure you get the long wheel base and the 5.6 V8 engine.

Slam it to the ground on bags, some subtle front fascia work, subtle rear diffuser and exhaust work, sick set of wheels.

:sweetjesus:
The Infiniti M was also called Nissan Cima and Mitsubishi Dignity.
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12822291_446676955542564_282060239_n.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-KhNBTXyD-o/maxresdefault.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6710691899_a8ca3da18e_o.jpg
http://easasu.sakura.ne.jp/sblo_files/universalair/image/IMG_6811.JPG
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/userstorage/000/017/788/838/788a7784c0.jpg
http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/y51_jvipgt/bk/main/3.jpg

[Timpo]

sweet jesus that's bitchin'
Here's one with newer(W222) S Class

http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/sclass_jvip/bk/main/1.jpg
http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/sclass_jvip/bk/main/5.jpg
http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/sclass_jvip/bk/main/2.jpg
http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/sclass_jvip/bk/main/3.jpg
http://www.aimgain.net/products/aero/sclass_jvip/bk/main/4.jpg

[Urrtoast]

..............

[asian_XL]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d9/cc/51/d9cc51851d0f915f93763958d4792dd5.jpg

https://accuair.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/AA2_2473-Edit.jpg?itok=GYENgbj2

[Gucci Mane]

I had a 00 RL on Anceltion coilvers and Wed Kranze and then an 02 Q45 on Junction Produce springs (not low enough). (Also a VIPstyle SC400) I learned that it is all about the stance and wheel fitment. If I was to do it again I would go Air Runner or other air setup.

Check out vipstylecars.com for plenty of info. Some platforms have more aftermarket support than others.

x2 for Serialnine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Touring240/2000%20Acura%20RL/051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Touring240/media/2000%20Acura%20RL/051.jpg.html)




maaaaaan i could sure use another acura in my life. i've always really liked these "big body" gen of the RL.

[Timpo]

maaaaaan i could sure use another acura in my life. i've always really liked these "big body" gen of the RL.

http://auto-database.com/image/honda-legend-iii-ka9-2003-205507.jpg
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/grace_20033/imgs/e/a/eabf9ac9.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/001/346/709/1346709/p1.jpg
http://www.pg-japan.net/2013/seisaku/tugi/1.JPG
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/43/a9/aec510c1ccbf06fb7aad1310108ae5fb.jpg
http://www.carvan.co.jp/gallery/images/00012/car_00012_1.jpg
http://www.craft-web.co.jp/collection/images/DC_100522a_1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hPSje7FFtnY/maxresdefault.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/001/081/674/1081674/p1.jpg
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/aimgain/imgs/c/a/ca105639.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/User/653626/p1.jpg
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14350823_235130633555918_1722902741_n.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCar/136811/p1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/T4ZzvrwQ4x8/maxresdefault.jpg

[twitchyzero]

maaaaaan i could sure use another acura in my life. i've always really liked these "big body" gen of the RL.

i prefer the kb1

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn74/ambiguous626/RL/Black3.jpg

[meme405]

i prefer the kb1

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn74/ambiguous626/RL/Black3.jpg

Yep. Comfortable, good luxury, and if you get the SH-AWD with the v6 not a slouch either.

[Timpo]

i prefer the kb1

oh ok

http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/003/256/790/3256790/p1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jntzpXEItzc/maxresdefault.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/User/412853/p1.jpg?ct=dad77ca5ac73
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/User/1466509/p1.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/000/718/332/718332/p4.jpg
https://scontent-tpe1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14677234_690339461116350_6097255407284125696_n.jpg
http://www.mercury-ep.com/wp/staff/files/2014/10/IMG_2345.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/001/919/737/1919737/p1.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/storage/834854/plus/83065f2336.jpg

[E-SPEC]

This is lol

[underscore]

Any actual VIPs wouldn't even considering riding in the vast majority of these things.

[marksport]

I've occasionally found myself in situations where donks would be of great benefit....

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/d9/a2/7cd9a268373fae283cef5f1a16f38096.jpg


Tho I would put on a set of these instead

https://d2gvvn2873sxv5.cloudfront.net/2ojocw4WeZkiV1eTOpZF-YY41Ck=/500x/filters:watermark(simpletire/logo.png,0,0,1)/tiregallery/11552_new/3.jpg

[asian_XL]

let's see the cheapest VIP out there.

[flagella]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhT3C9mHLZ4

[asian_XL]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4987280120_3c63f4c886_z.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp145/slowda/vip3.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3911/14882579491_f38dcf2aa1_b.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNdnZfGWsAA7T3y.jpg

[Timpo]

let's see the cheapest VIP out there.
Honda Fit is actually pretty good for VIP mods.

http://jdm.lt/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hellaflush_bagged_honda_fit2.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/34zfwaq.jpg
http://ivyleagueeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/p1.jpg
http://speedhunters-wp-production.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fit1_SHsP_1.jpg
https://omgpancakes.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/fit3.jpg
https://omgpancakes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/p1f4.jpg
http://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/usercar/000/000/530/707/530707/p1.jpg
http://blog-imgs-27.fc2.com/t/a/k/take21no1/cr7.jpg

[E-SPEC]

Thats all some confusion right there. ^^^^^

[Timpo]

Thats all some confusion right there. ^^^^^

why?

[Timpo]

Any actual VIPs wouldn't even considering riding in the vast majority of these things.

what!

[Timpo]

Any actual VIPs wouldn't even considering riding in the vast majority of these things.

Barack Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9gJp3FVd2o

Vladimir Putin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtDzKsbb67I

Shinzo Abe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIh15Ptymyg

Emperor of Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uczV1_r7kUg

[Timpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7IMu7vXh8Q&list=PLGx2dy9efl1FFhzOvA_dsJDqs_SGzO9l4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cnGrryX-M4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mhE59N7hq0