[NotRevSeen]

I work in retail @ Metrotown it's not something I want to do, but it pays the bills and puts food on the table. Every single day I engage with customers of various age gaps. Literally the worst customers I have the displeasure of serving is the Generation Z crowd i.e "the post millenials" & "the iGeneration"

I'm not saying these are inherently bad people per say, but they are completely socially inept. They can't speak properly or express what they want to say in a clear and concise manner. There's nothing more grating to the ears than hearing "ah,um, like, ugh, you know" every 3rd word that comes out of their mouths.

I absolutely blame technology, more specifically phones and texting. There's no doubt in my mind this online form of communication is making people dumber. People don't have to memorize or remember things because google is just a swipe away from getting anything you want to know right at the tip of your fingers.

I like Justin Trudeau and I voted for him, but if you ever listen to him talk when he's not reading off a teleprompter, he's guilty of this. He always says "ugh" and it's hard to listen to because as a listener you become fixed on that word and it's distracting as fuck.

I'm probably going to get downvoted into oblivion. If I were Prime Minister I would make it mandatory for everyone to read at a minimum 20 minutes every single day.

[Sosodef]

I would tend to agree with you, but the iGeneration is still pretty young, so you can't blame them. Wait until they're a little older and then they'll likely speak with proper diction.

[Harvey Specter]

This is the shit young people are growing up with so I'm not shocked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0U_lFSVO88

[dapperfied]

One kid at my workplace always includes "like you know" in each of his sentences he speaks. Drives me insane.

[Akinari]

Absolutely can't stand people who say like every three or four words.

Also @ Harvey, Designer is almost always high so...LOL

[ZN6]

Not new, every generation has *something* to degenerate social aptitude. This gen it's social apps, last gen it was the IMs like messenger, ICQ, prior it was the television.

Look at it this way, if you didn't have the socially inept it would not create a problem for people to have jobs for.

The world spins on.

[jasonturbo]

If you think the way they speak is atrocious, you would be really impressed with their writing.

Blame the school system, for the last 20 years there has been a gradual transition away from grading scholastic performance, we are now at a point where your ability to achieve a passing mark has very little to do with your ability to demonstrate an understanding of the subject matter.

[68style]

A good friend of mine sorts resumes at a talent acquisition agency... and she was telling me she's not sure whats worse -- the ridiculous resumes from new immigrants she gets or the ones from younger kids... at least the new immigrants have a damn excuse though lol

[CL typeS]

Isnt it the norm now for the whole society's education system to be based on "Yay! You get an A for effort and thats all that matters!"

[bcrdukes]

ell oh ell!

[Traum]

It really is quite sad and bewildering at the same time. I've witnessed first hand how a 20-something receptionist couldn't even draft up a simple holiday closure notice, and sometimes these people have university degrees. How do you even get through university when you can't string your ideas together in a coherent and presentable manner? Even though I didn't take a lot of English / arts courses, there were still enough essay / research papers that I had to write to get through the degree, and I just can't possibly understand how people can make the cut (in getting a university degree) while still failing so miserably when conveying themselves verbally or in written format. :yuno:

[Hondaracer]

some relatives and family friends have brought their kids over to my parents place for social gatherings etc. so occasionally i'm forced to engaged in the typical banter etc.

one of my moms good friends had a son who was like 21 and just got engaged, tried to have a conversation with him and he couldnt muster more than 5 word sentances and if he made any sort of eye contact within the conversation he had a nervous twitch and broke away

experienced this quite a few times with different people of the age group

fiance has a cousin who is the youngest by far out of like 12 cousins, she is 19. me and the wifey always out and about doing things etc. in the summer we went to the PNE 4-5 times, saw her on the walk home and said we had just came from the PNE and the summer nights concerts

"oh yea hah people still go to those things? uhg so lame.."

oh yea, so what are you guys up to?

"heh i dunno, like doing whatever right?"

uhh..yea..

[adambomb]

It was your use of proper sentences and language structure that made the PNE seem so lame.

Tell her "PNE was lit as fuck. for real for real." Then she would be thoroughly impressed with the attraction. :D

[tiger_handheld]

so lit fam, I'm getting turnt, going 0 to hunnit hella fast - so triggered I'm so shook.

[adambomb]

I fucks with revscene all day. :smug:

[320icar]

Seriously. For those of you who have snapchat, they constantly run those "discovery" things as a banner ad while I try and look at my friends stories.

It is either...

1. A kardashian. Often 3/10 of the banners every day is about a kardashian
2. Someone throwing shade
3. Something being 100
4. Something being *blank* AF
5. Something about the vagina (thanks Cosmo?)
6. Gratuitous or innapropriate use of emoji's
Edit: 7. How could I forget squad and fam and lit and steez and fleek or whatever the fuck dictionary tween twits are using nowadays

Sigh.... I am only 27, but I feel like I'm fucking 72

[westopher]

Funny, many of the 30, 40 and 50 year olds I encounter are fucking idiots as well. Its not a generational thing.
I would blame technology for certain types of difficulty interacting, but for every kid that doesn't know how to engage in conversation, theres a 50 year old that won't say thank you when you hold a door for them, a 40 year old blaming whatever race he isn't a part of of him being an underemployed lazy broke fuck, or a 70 year old talking about how "the gays" are destroying the sanctity of marriage.

[RevYouUp]

Salty old people :troll:

[J____]

i think it goes away with age. I mean look at us, most of us have been on RS for almost 20 years. I'm sure if you look at some of our posts from back then when we were mostly teenagers, the words and sentences we wrote were pretty stupid too. Once you grow older, you realize talking like that doesn't make you cool, just makes you sound retarded.

[Ch28]

Reminds me of the Canucks GM Jim Benning. Every 3rd or 4th word is always "you know"

[twitchyzero]

gen Z are barely reaching adulthood?

i think stereotyping generations is silly but meaningful face-to-face interactions does seem to be on a decline across the board (boomers and gen Y as well)

so true regarding the TV to computer to mobile devices as each respective generation's dependence

[tinico]

don't know too much about Canada on this aspect, but I believe it is similar to the US. Friends and I have discussed this topic many times, and from the information i have gathered, here's my opinion up until now.
"The kids are getting dumber/less educated" , I blame the lazy parents who don't get involved in the society and see only short term benefits. example, in the States, they have a school grading system (an A school, a B school,...) the lower the rank, the lower the funding, that ranking is based on it's students success/grades. Whats the catch? well schools lower their testing standards in order for kids to get higher grades, it's a vicious circle. Less work for the schools (more money in their pockets) less quality education for kids. The lazy parents accept all this because less effort for them now tests are easier, less work for them to do with the kids after work. Then even if you have good intention to bring a school from a C to a B school status you don't have enough funding to do so, mostly found in poorer neighborhoods with the parents not being able to support the school economically, the school looses attendance because of it's low grade, closes down, no school for the neighborhood, kids don't do to school.

"The technology is making kids dumber". again lazy parents. buying their kids all the phones, tablets, games they want. It's a cheap and easy way to keep their kids busy so they don't have to do it themselves.

now some natural born kids will stand out and be "normal". but for the rest.... well you get this. you know like what, huh, i mean?

then this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVdVyffjcCU

[MG1]

^I've been saying this for ages. America is the land of opportunity. It is great because of outsiders. Look at all the talent it attracts/gets from Canada. Anyway, it is what it is.

Also, your point about parental involvement is pretty much spot on. Parents are the first and foremost educators. The first 18 months of a child's life is so important. I see so many parents ignoring their children's needs. How can a parent let their baby sit in a crib staring at the walls and ceiling with no stimulation, while they smoke, drink, god knows what else. Babies are like sponges. Just google childhood development.

https://childdevelopmentinfo.com

Also cognitive development of children......

Like everything in life, take some of the advice with a grain of salt. No need to enroll children in every activity under the sun. A parents time with their own child is of upmost importance. Don't "hand them over" to give yourself more alone time, using the excuse that they're learning new skills.

[Nlkko]

Older people use "like", "you know" too, depends on the people they spend time with (work, home). That's how human adapt, taking on the language of their social circle. It is not a generational thing. It ties more to society.

[ZN6]

And here on the rs chat say I talk too much. Lol I hate talking to people who can't string two sentences together. Like, umm, uh, y'know etc etc. Learn to get around it. I simply just say the most inappropriate shit that comes to mind.

[Digitalis]

Hey you grouchy old fucks lets get together and watch a movie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6CZ2J8gJtk

[Mr.HappySilp]

I blame twitter. Since you can't type full sentence, ppl just tend to type a few words and that's it.

I do notice the eye contact though. There is this kid that we hired around 20lish and he can't keep eye contact with anyone when speaking. Like every 2 to 3 secs he have to stare away. Is so weird. Also he can't really express himself when talking or looking at his notes sometimes make no sense. Is like he felt really uneasy, nervous, under pressure just by speaking to you about something simple.

[westopher]

Maybe its not due to his generation, but due to personal social anxiety?

[Hondaracer]

Maybe its not due to his generation, but due to personal social anxiety?

as i wrote my post about the guy i encountered i considered this.

However, i think it goes hand in hand with the rest of whats being discussed here, not just a one off anxiety issue

[westopher]

I don't know though, and neither does anyone else, know the reasons a person is the way they are unless they really have known them their whole life.
One of the most outgoing and intelligent people that works for me is a 19 year old girl, by all the points in this thread shouldn't be able to hold a conversation where as the most difficult person to interact with is nearly 40.

[MG1]

The cream always rises to the top, despite disadvantages, like poor parenting, poor environment, poor education (shitty schools and teachers), etc.

I think, as a whole, our society has been going downhill for quite some time. Ask any educator who has been at it for a long time, how things have changed. BTW, speaking of the education system, the newer teachers are the product of this downward trend. But, and this is a big but, there are plenty of gems out there. Like I said, the cream always rises to the top. And yes, there are plenty of dumb people of all ages out there. Scary thing is, the difference between smart and dumb is, there is no limit to dumb.

Could it be the chemicals in our water, food, and air? I think it's more like nobody gives a shit anymore and the ones who do care, are the ones who rise above all the shit. Attitude.

[pastarocket]

-agree with many of the comments made on this thread.

Lloyd from the Dumb and Dumber To movie sounds like a genius with his communication skills compared to Generation Z. LUL

He is dumb as a rock but he sounds coherent. :troll:

https://youtu.be/TENOiMBixLc

[godwin]

I must be getting elderly, but I believe it is something that belongs to the "live and let live" category. You can only do what you think you can control around you anyways, you do your part and it is all good.

Look, not everyone can live up to your high exacting standards. The world runs on normal distribution. There is a highly likely just as many people who are disappointed in you just as many you are disappointed in. If you find, the latter is more than the former, it is likely a sign that you are in the wrong place and might want to move on. If you can't, you might want to do some introspection.

As for parenting, influence kids who you are involved in your lives. Not just your own. The world is getting more and more a team sport. Even if your kids are geniuses, if their friends are morons, it is no good. Parental involvement is key, but I would argue the right type of involvement is needed, eg in hipsterville, I notice there is a trend for home schooling and free ranging parenting. I am not sure that's really helpful, you can't complain you cannot afford housing because you choose to teach your kids and stay at home!!

[fliptuner]

Society accommodates/tolerates stupidity/ignorance/greed more than it encourages/nurtures hard work and common sense.

[FerrariEnzo]

The new generation are so internet/electronic dependant, I would love to see how they would react when once day no power to turn on anything.

My nephew bought a new ikea drawer and got fed up putting that shit together and started bitching, couldnt even hold the screw driver properly to screw in screws. I told him to follow the instructions. He bitched some more and told my mom who then told me to do it.. !@#$%@#$^%@$%^ is freaking 16 year old kid... all he does it facebook..

[Ludepower]

I must be getting elderly, but I believe it is something that belongs to the "live and let live" category.

or the WHO CARES category.

Im here struggling with my own issues like paying my overprice mortgage. I dont have time to worry about the rest of society. Only the ones close to me I will smack them in the head.

[Mr.HappySilp]

The cream always rises to the top, despite disadvantages, like poor parenting, poor environment, poor education (shitty schools and teachers), etc.

I think, as a whole, our society has been going downhill for quite some time. Ask any educator who has been at it for a long time, how things have changed. BTW, speaking of the education system, the newer teachers are the product of this downward trend. But, and this is a big but, there are plenty of gems out there. Like I said, the cream always rises to the top. And yes, there are plenty of dumb people of all ages out there. Scary thing is, the difference between smart and dumb is, there is no limit to dumb.

Could it be the chemicals in our water, food, and air? I think it's more like nobody gives a shit anymore and the ones who do care, are the ones who rise above all the shit. Attitude.

Ok looking at my cousins report cards (if that's what you still want to call it). There are no grades, no % marks. All it saids was some comments like what you did good in and what area you need to improve on. The teachers can't fail anyone unless you are like super super bad. Because it hurts the kids' confident if we fail them. LIKE WTF. If you aren't good enough to pass then you fail. Is that simple. Why do we have to sugar coat everything. It will be worse for the kids if they graduate but aren't suppose to because they won't make it into any college/university or even land a job? Then they come to this reality that they are crap and useless so they can either go back to adult night school which waste more time or they leech off their parents everyday playing games, going on social media and compplain.

[ZN6]

Ok looking at my cousins report cards (if that's what you still want to call it). There are no grades, no % marks. All it saids was some comments like what you did good in and what area you need to improve on. The teachers can't fail anyone unless you are like super super bad. Because it hurts the kids' confident if we fail them.

Is that why there is no fail counter readily apparent on RS posts now under the poster's name? Now you gotta put in the effort to go into someone's profile and search his failed posts to really find out how deeply the failure cuts.

RS has gone soft, yo.:pokerface:

[Soundy]

There's nothing more grating to the ears than hearing "ah,um, like, ugh, you know" every 3rd word that comes out of their mouths.

I absolutely blame technology, more specifically phones and texting.
Welcome back to 1982.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb21lsCQ3EM

[Soundy]

or the WHO CARES category.

Im here struggling with my own issues like paying my overprice mortgage. I dont have time to worry about the rest of society. Only the ones close to me I will smack them in the head.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7b/7bf3186e028073f097f75ec3ac598f954dfe6e54a69a8458eb 041837521a12ac.jpg

[jasonturbo]

I do believe the proliferation of spell check, autocorrect, and the use of short-form text message words (bcuz, cya, l8, etc.) is having a negative impact on the writing skills of the general population.

Let everyone be a fucking idiot, be all you can be - and less. If everyone was a go-getter I would be working at McDonalds.

On the subject of the "valley girl" thing where people, mainly women, use the word "like" as a transition for everything, point it out to the offending party - you will be shocked to see how fast they start consciously limiting their use of the word.

[godwin]

No not the Who Cares category. That is not my category. I acknowledge I am not omnipotent and I have to prioritize the finite resource I have in the scope of my life. So if I can influence kids in my sphere of influence great.. I don't complain too much if I cannot influence whole of Canada. and annoyed at every kid and paint them with the same brush.

So I feel the best way is to equip with people I know a good sense of discernment, critical thinking.. it is amazing what just teaching a few simple tools like Taylor Russell diagrams to help to organise kids observations (false positives etc) helps.


or the WHO CARES category.

Im here struggling with my own issues like paying my overprice mortgage. I dont have time to worry about the rest of society. Only the ones close to me I will smack them in the head.

[GLOW]

best generation below. invented the crotch chop. SUCK IT!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mysAiGzfris

[GS8]

My niece is 5 and she entered Kindergarten just this passed September. She is incredibly bright for her age. She's still developing but has already grasped at concepts usually reserved for adults such as sympathy for others and being selfless. She also has a 'love all, serve all' mantra (not all the time but she is 5).

I give all credit to her mother (my sister-in-law) for raising her in a very nurturing environment. She uses electronic teaching aids but instead of letting the device do all the teaching, she works with the device to answer all questions her daughter has. My brother is a dumbass (Simpson gene, I'm almost there).

My worry is once she enters the public schooling system, all the hard work that went into raising her will be unraveled by whatever the fuck our institutions dictate. I'm no fan of our schools at all. It seems to be a enabling environment of stupidity and freedom from consequence. There's also barely any wholesome learning. Then again, I can't say the same about post-secondary. I rage quit my last ever semester because I felt I was getting nothing out of school. May as well say fuck it to school, go volunteer for a living and carve a career out of that.

As for the OP, I agree with the assessment, however the English language has been evolving for a long time. We certainly don't speak Olde English, yes? The English language is over 1000 years old so it won't be the same. Even little things happen in our lifetime:

all right ---> alright (both are acceptable)

^ Older people wouldn't accept 'alright' as one word but I'm sure many of us do.

That said, there's some things I don't agree with at all. A couple of years ago at a grocery store, I saw this couple in the produce department. The girl asked her boyfriend if he wanted 'Strawbs'.

:seriously:

Not every fucking thing needs a short form variant. Real life isn't Twitter. Stop saying 'hashtag', too.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

you guys do realise you sound like old fucks that have fallen behind in the race and don't realise it yet right?

lol.

back in mah day, i had to walk 100 miles up hill both ways to school without shoes.

[Mr.Money]

if you're worried about the younger generation learning stupid fucking straits,i noticed parents set up them for private schooling to somewhat keep them away from the ghetto ass ghetto trash people who tend to bully and what not....not that you're completely safe from it,but less bullshit.

[tiger_handheld]

:seriously:

Not every fucking thing needs a short form variant. Real life isn't Twitter. Stop saying 'hashtag', too.


no chill bro. #calmdown



:troll:

[N.V.M.]

Texting is a more probable culprit than Twitter.

[flagella]

Ok looking at my cousins report cards (if that's what you still want to call it). There are no grades, no % marks. All it saids was some comments like what you did good in and what area you need to improve on. The teachers can't fail anyone unless you are like super super bad. Because it hurts the kids' confident if we fail them. LIKE WTF. If you aren't good enough to pass then you fail. Is that simple. Why do we have to sugar coat everything. It will be worse for the kids if they graduate but aren't suppose to because they won't make it into any college/university or even land a job? Then they come to this reality that they are crap and useless so they can either go back to adult night school which waste more time or they leech off their parents everyday playing games, going on social media and compplain.

It's as painful reading your post with broken English as hearing people who can't speak coherently.

[MG1]

^But he's trying at least, and it's Revscene. A place where FOBs can get better at learning the language. I can't see me speaking half as good as he can in English than my pathetic attempts at Mandarin, Cantonese, whathaveyou.

As for report cards, Mr.HappySilp, no marks are given from Kindergarten to grade three. Mainly because the range of abilities and development of young children are so great at this age. By grade four, most kids have settled down and that's when they give out grades and effort marks. In the early years, you will see more comments about how the child is interacting with others, coping with shit, etc.

As for the failing part, some kids would fail for the next 60 years. They know they're not the brightest light on the porch. Funny thing is, a fair amount of these kids do get it - eventually, and turn out to be okay.

I guess we could be like some countries and beat the shit out of these kids or beat the sense into them....... look how that turns out.

[godwin]

You mean by that they are able to come and attend our university (UBC) because of their academic achievements, buy up local properties, exotics cars and rustle a lot of people on this board's jimmies as bonus?? :lawl::lawl:

All parents want what's the best for their kids.. I mean how else can you explain Sherlock is a popular name in China?? (though I suspect Donald will be next year). You only have 1 chance do it right and well use your best judgement and let it roll.


I guess we could be like some countries and beat the shit out of these kids or beat the sense into them....... look how that turns out.

[Y2K_o__o]

Ok looking at my cousins report cards (if that's what you still want to call it). There are no grades, no % marks. All it saids was some comments like what you did good in and what area you need to improve on. The teachers can't fail anyone unless you are like super super bad. Because it hurts the kids' confident if we fail them. LIKE WTF. If you aren't good enough to pass then you fail. Is that simple. Why do we have to sugar coat everything. It will be worse for the kids if they graduate but aren't suppose to because they won't make it into any college/university or even land a job? Then they come to this reality that they are crap and useless so they can either go back to adult night school which waste more time or they leech off their parents everyday playing games, going on social media and compplain.

That's exactly the point
confidence of a child is important, but somehow they need to learn the consequences of failure and that's a very important part of life

[Infiniti]

if you're worried about the younger generation learning stupid fucking straits,i noticed parents set up them for private schooling to somewhat keep them away from the ghetto ass ghetto trash people who tend to bully and what not....not that you're completely safe from it,but less bullshit.

http://i.giphy.com/CiYImHHBivpAs.gif

[MG1]

Absolute scrap.
I bought a archer ac 1750 v2 6 months ago it was a frailer from day 1 loosing signal on 2.4 and 5 ghz, continually rebooting and restoring to fact. defaults got ahold of support I did everything they asked me to do and no resolve. So after complaining they sent me a new 1 archer ac 1750 v 2.0 nothing has changed same issues. Its great if you have a new shotgun and need a target, or a paper weight if its windy. I RECOMEND THIS ROUTER TO NO ONE!!!

Saw this on Home Depot's site when looking up router reviews on a TP-Link Archer C7. The only review that got a one star. All others were 5 star ratings............ nuff said.

How many errors can you find? :lawl:

[will068]

All parents want what's the best for their kids.. I mean how else can you explain Sherlock is a popular name in China?? (though I suspect Donald will be next year). You only have 1 chance do it right and well use your best judgement and let it roll.

Sherlock ?

http://gifyu.com/images/Lindsay-Lohan-Spits-Out-Drink.gif

[6o4__boi]

Saw this on Home Depot's site when looking up router reviews on a TP-Link Archer C7. The only review that got a one star. All others were 5 star ratings............ nuff said.

How many errors can you find? :lawl:


I find that one/two star reviews tend to be written by people who can barely put together a sentence let alone be using whatever products they ordered.

[godwin]

Not to mention being emotionally charged doesn't help with the writing process.

I find that one/two star reviews tend to be written by people who can barely put together a sentence let alone be using whatever products they ordered.

[snowball]

Ok looking at my cousins report cards (if that's what you still want to call it). There are no grades, no % marks. All it saids was some comments like what you did good in and what area you need to improve on. The teachers can't fail anyone unless you are like super super bad. Because it hurts the kids' confident if we fail them. LIKE WTF. If you aren't good enough to pass then you fail. Is that simple. Why do we have to sugar coat everything. It will be worse for the kids if they graduate but aren't suppose to because they won't make it into any college/university or even land a job? Then they come to this reality that they are crap and useless so they can either go back to adult night school which waste more time or they leech off their parents everyday playing games, going on social media and compplain.

I like a quantitative report card over a % based one, isn't it more useful to know what you're good at and need improvement on? It has nothing to do with the report card type chosen (% or words)

I don't see how descriptive report cards means that everyone passes. The comment should say:
-your child is good at: nothing
-and not good at: everything

[Obsideon]

Semi-related. I found this to be spot on. After having to continue to hire younger and younger, this makes so much sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

[MG1]

^so depressing..............

no wAnder I love going to the casino

[Marshall Placid]

Great video.

The best companies will be the ones who will build long-term relationships with their millennial employees who comprise a majority of the workforce now and in the future.

It's up to the managers and leaders of these companies to effectively manage, nay, build sympathetic relationships with these millennials.

Benefits like flexible hours, free therapy sessions, mandatory "get togethers" mini-trips, etc. will differentiate a mediocre company culture from a fantastic one.

[Noir]

Semi-related. I found this to be spot on. After having to continue to hire younger and younger, this makes so much sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

Highly agree on points 1 and 4, but disagree on his points 2 and 3; way too much techno-villification; there may be some merit to it but not much.

[Tapioca]

To be honest, it's hard to square the noble objective of investing and nouturing the under-30 crowd when we, as shareholders, demand ever increasing returns and refuse to hold companies as long term plays unless they deliver those returns. We reap what we sew.

The thing that will wake up the under-25 crowd is when some decide to have children of their own. They'll grow up pretty quick when that happens.

[underscore]

Older people bitching about how younger people talk/interact. You do realize this has been going on since the dawn of humanity right?

[DragonChi]

I'd like to mention that not all millenials are like that, and that not all baby boomers are wealthy supervisors/managers. There will always be a spread of human work ethic, grit, determination, and perseverance. As well as stupidity.

[godwin]

It is all normal distributions with our human biases layered over it.

It is much more efficient to toil with your own head down, rather toil by telling people to keep their head down.

I'd like to mention that not all millenials are like that, and that not all baby boomers are wealthy supervisors/managers. There will always be a spread of human work ethic, grit, determination, and perseverance. As well as stupidity.