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2017 Detroit Auto Show: highlights and discussion
!Aznboi128
01-08-2017, 09:07 PM
Lets see what you guys like and interested about
I know some people will hate it but Kia Stinger looks pretty cool, 365hp and rwd
http://icdn-8.motor1.com/images/mgl/B4onw/s1/2018-kia-stinger-detroit-2017.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/rm61h7r7bwjr83hwha6x.jpg
interior is kinda weird with the middle vents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj-O835agvk
twitchyzero
01-08-2017, 09:09 PM
looks way better than the concept
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8YySAdTM--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/rqdnaauutyphjflgktga.jpg
still looks cheap though
!Aznboi128
01-08-2017, 09:14 PM
So for 2018 the Tiguan in NA would be longer by 10" cause we're fat
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ut6aqnkfcuvnwudiw5td.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/p4xzgtztwizjxbo4meib.jpg
source: 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan: They Made It Bigger For America (http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/2018-volkswagen-tiguan-they-made-it-bigger-for-america-1790959059)
Traum
01-08-2017, 10:27 PM
So for 2018 the Tiguan in NA would be longer by 10" cause we're fat
So now they've turned it into a Touareg, and will need to add back another small SUV to slot below the Tiguan. Just like how the CRV progressive went from its gen 1 size to its current size, so Honda added the HRV all over again.
:fulloffuck:
tofu1413
01-08-2017, 10:55 PM
damn. that stinger....
great car... but Kia's dealer network has always been known to be Sub par.... :pokerface:
Cwift
01-09-2017, 12:48 AM
Front end of the stinger reminds me of the genesis coupe lol.
StylinRed
01-09-2017, 01:28 AM
I dunno the stinger looks ugly to me
But I'm surprised it's so long
SeedBNR
01-09-2017, 01:37 AM
Wasn't the Stinger supposed to be a coupe??
StylinRed
01-09-2017, 05:13 AM
This Audi Q8 is going to be shown at Detroit, Audi just released the concept video online
https://youtu.be/5pRXAX5mhhQ
thumper
01-09-2017, 08:49 AM
Wasn't the Stinger supposed to be a coupe??
the article i read about it said kia said it only took the name and rwd concept from the concept coupe but dosen't share anything else.
edit: the design of this car came from the GT concept back in 2011 which i completely forgot about until now :eek:
https://youtu.be/6GUcWNxxI0s
!Aznboi128
01-09-2017, 10:10 AM
2018 Camry a bit too aggressive? no engine enhancements
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/jvmcvo1oopzmfn97cwfq.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/cjivzrrymwxhu1i4ppue.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--DLF3tEiB--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ybbn9iwni6fylg3637t2.jpg
http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/crop/2382x1337+0+1/resize/716x402!/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/35c36abe2fd996e5e38b61c21ab05839/204789523/2018_Toyota_Camry_Hybrid_XLE_02_F2F821A31763156068 8B5C3FC036338CD9A06E1F.jpg
interior aint bad
i do like the way it looks
Teriyaki
01-09-2017, 10:49 AM
Camry will sell like hotcakes. Heard the engines will be enhanced from MY2016. Of course, with Toyota, enhancements means maybe 1-2mpg gain and one extra torque or two.
thumper
01-09-2017, 10:55 AM
that c-pillar design... it works/not works for me? i don't know why
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/CamryTeaser-1-626x382.jpeg
twitchyzero
01-09-2017, 11:24 AM
wow that looks really upscale...I understand it's fully-loaded but looks on-par with Lexus
image fine-print says it's prototype and not a production model...so there goes that
Akinari
01-09-2017, 11:31 AM
New Camry looks great. Looking forward to the driving impressions. Strangely, the A-pillars look really thin though? Toyota has had trouble with small overlap over the past few years, I wonder if they've managed to address that with this.
Also, my favourite crossover the Qashqai is finally coming over to North America, and in Canada we get the proper name not the stupid "Rogue Sport" the US is getting :lawl: always been jealous of how the UK got the better looking less Muricanized SUV, not the stupid Rogue.
Stinger looks really confused to me so far based on photos. The worst part is that stupid tail light line extended to the entire rear fender like wat?
thumper
01-09-2017, 11:53 AM
New Camry looks great. Looking forward to the driving impressions. Strangely, the A-pillars look really thin though? Toyota has had trouble with small overlap over the past few years, I wonder if they've managed to address that with this.
optical illusion? not sure if i am explaining this properly but the a-pillar starts of thin at the base, but gets thicker as it reaches the roof?
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/jvmcvo1oopzmfn97cwfq.jpg
Liquid_o2
01-09-2017, 12:27 PM
The front of the new Camry looks like something out of a Need 4 Speed Underground mash-up. SO MANY RANDOM ANGLES.
thumper
01-09-2017, 01:29 PM
what do you guys think? not sure if lincoln's direction is the right idea... this is their "concept navigator":
http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/607c39eb1b102d576ecd373b7c4cae16/203591640/01-lincoln-navigator-concept-ny.jpg
http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/lincoln-navigator-concept-inline2-photo-667153-s-original.jpg
bcuzracecarz
01-09-2017, 02:26 PM
"Lincoln - allowing you to get fatter and lazier with every new model"
!Aznboi128
01-09-2017, 04:05 PM
I think that navigator was at the previous auto show, it has friggin steps to get inside.
on the other side
Honda decided to put the civic's front end on the odyssey
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/samabuelsamid/files/2017/01/02-2018-Honda-Odyssey-1200x675.jpg?width=960
http://hanabi.autoweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/gen-1200-675/public/04-2018-honda-odyssey.jpg?itok=gOkUSRoy
http://wpmedia.driving.ca/2017/01/p1010597.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=960&h=480&crop=1
https://www.cstatic-images.com/stock/1170x1170/98/img-494113110-1483989182498.jpg
http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/750x422/quality/95/https://s.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/434/080/3/S4340803/slug/l/12-2018-honda-odyssey-1.jpg
that gear selected tho....
Akinari
01-09-2017, 04:31 PM
Can't speak for the rest of the car (2D boxy front end stapled onto a curvy body, spaceship interior) but man everything from the B pillar and back looks heavenly. The new Odyssey probably has the best application of the new floating roof trend so far, the continuation of the chrome belt line trim works very well too.
Also quad exhausts on the XSE Camry :lawl:
I think one of my favourite things about this auto show is that traditional torque converter autos are starting to make a comeback. Lots of cars getting 8/9/10sp torque converter autos (Honda, Toyota/Lexus, Hyundai/Kia, etc.) as opposed to DCTs which in the long run just can't match the reliability and longevity of a torque converter. It's becoming possible to make torque converter autos shift nearly as quickly as a DCT, which is great. I much prefer the smoothness of a torque converter auto over a DCT, especially for everyday driving.
twitchyzero
01-09-2017, 09:34 PM
Also quad exhausts on the XSE Camry :lawl:
fake ones? #justthetip
68style
01-09-2017, 10:57 PM
This Lexus grill thing has gotten completely out of hand:
https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/DnNN6IGdp1KuhV3oXA1MeT3XYAw=/770x433/2017/01/06/1130ae64-0b85-4419-af34-b389bc942965/2018lexusls-41-00000007-still001.jpg
!LittleDragon
01-09-2017, 11:48 PM
The Stinger looks like it's built on the 2015 Genesis platform. The V6TT is going to be powering the Genesis G80 Sport. Surprised they did't mention the Tau V8 as an option since it's available on the platform already.
I have a V8 2G Genesis and it's pretty quick, I can only imagine how much quicker it can be in a lighter version of the car. My Genesis is damn near 5000 pounds...
ime2006
01-10-2017, 12:03 AM
optical illusion? not sure if i am explaining this properly but the a-pillar starts of thin at the base, but gets thicker as it reaches the roof?
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/jvmcvo1oopzmfn97cwfq.jpg
Here is a more clear picture
http://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/960/477/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/toyota-camry-detroit-front.jpg
Hakkaboy
01-10-2017, 07:33 AM
New Odyssey has a camera inside so that you can spy on your kids lol
The second row captain chairs slide left/right and front/back and there's no slider tracks on the outside of the car for the sliding doors :notbad:
thumper
01-10-2017, 07:41 AM
This Audi Q8 is going to be shown at Detroit, Audi just released the concept video online
i don't get the attraction europeans have to this vehicle type. it seems to fall into the same category as the merc GLE/bmw X6/etc.? it's so big, but can't carry more than 5 people and has limited cargo capacity. but whenever i google for highlights the UK car press always have the q8 front and center:
http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/17/02/980x653/6-audi-q8-concept.jpg
The Audi Q8 is based on Audi's large Q7 model and shares its 117.6-inch wheelbase. The concept is said to use a plug-in hybrid powertrain with a heady 516.3 lb-ft of torque. And a hybrid Q8 will likely share the top powertrain spot along with perhaps an SQ8 high-performance model. But we expect the Q7's 252-hp 2.0-liter four-cylinder and 333-hp 3.0-liter V-6 to make up the majority of Q8 sales.
This concept certainly has a slick silhouette thanks to that steeply sloped rear window. Yes, that cuts down on the cargo volume (the concept has 22.2 cu-ft of space behind the rear seat) and it means there isn't room for a third row of seats either. But no matter. In this kind of sports crossover, performance is way more important than practicality. Thanks to Quattro all-wheel drive and the wide track (likely optional) adaptive air suspension, the Q8 should be loads of fun.
Lets see what you guys like and interested about
I know some people will hate it but Kia Stinger looks pretty cool, 365hp and rwd
finally read the specs and it does look good in print... big motor option is a v6 twin turbo, available AWD, LSD rear? but sadly only comes with a 8-spd slushbox, even though there are paddle shifters. still, it makes me think of it as a peasant version of the stillborn Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge, or maybe a poor man's audi a6? but i can't find anything solid about pricing... i guess we have to wait and see what it's like to drive in real life.
from the internet:
The Stinger is low-slung, aggressive, and rides on a 114.4-inch wheelbase, so it's longer than cars like the Audi A4 and BMW 3-Series. A 255-hp 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder comes standard, but a 3.3-liter twin-turbo V-6 is optional with 365 hp. Both are paired to an 8-speed automatic. Kia says the more powerful versions should hit 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and top out at 167 mph. The Stinger is available all-wheel drive, but even rear-drive models get a standard limited-slip differential. And that name is just plain cool.
https://youtu.be/TYMRw5X6lQ8
originalhypa
01-10-2017, 08:16 AM
i don't get the attraction europeans have to this vehicle type. it seems to fall into the same category as the merc GLE/bmw X6/etc.? it's so big, but can't carry more than 5 people and has limited cargo capacity.
It's not only the Euros, but the Japanese who do this too.
When we were in the market for 7 seat SUV we cross shopped everything from the Lexus RX series to the Audi Q series. It basically came down to needing space, and that's why the highlander won out.
Even if we're talking a small folding jumper seat in the rear, having the ability to carry more than five people is a necessity for many folks. Even if you don't use it all the time, it's nice to have the option.
!Aznboi128
01-10-2017, 02:42 PM
This Lexus grill thing has gotten completely out of hand:
https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/DnNN6IGdp1KuhV3oXA1MeT3XYAw=/770x433/2017/01/06/1130ae64-0b85-4419-af34-b389bc942965/2018lexusls-41-00000007-still001.jpg
The grill has a lot of detail init which makes it cool, but I do agree theres a lot going on there.
originalhypa
01-12-2017, 09:26 AM
I sure wouldn't enjoy washing the front end of the Lexus...
J-Chow
01-18-2017, 11:26 AM
2018 Ford Mustang. Yay or Nay?
V6 engine is no more.
2.3L ecoboost is standard.
A few minor upgrades to both ecoboost and GT models. Both interior and exterior. Optional Digital Gauge ( I want....)
Dropped 6 speed auto , replaced with 10 speed auto
6 speed manual still available.
http://blogs-images.forbes.com/samabuelsamid/files/2017/01/New-Ford-Mustang-V8-GT-with-Performace-Pack-in-Orange-Fury-2.jpg
http://roa.h-cdn.co/assets/17/03/768x384/new-ford-mustang-12-inch-lcd-digital-instrument-cluster-in-sport-view.jpg
jjson
01-18-2017, 01:02 PM
^Wow that digital instrument cluster looks pretty sweet!
Wish auto makers would make them as an optional extra (a la carte) in their higher trim models. I still like my old school analog tach and speedo and don't want to be staring at a 'screen' the entire time
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