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Soundy
01-10-2017, 08:17 PM
Richmond driver of Bond-style car shaken, stirred over bill (http://www.richmond-news.com/news/richmond-driver-of-bond-style-car-shaken-stirred-over-bill-1.6930405)

Imagine, for a second, you’d just shelled out $200,000 for a very rare sports car that was made famous by the James Bond movies.

Then, fast forward the dream scenario and picture a nightmare where you crash the car — a very lightly-used, Aston Martin DB9 in Skyfall silver — have only basic insurance and are facing a $132,000 repair bill.

:fulloffuck:

Who pays $200k for a car and then just gets basic insurance???

dapperfied
01-10-2017, 08:18 PM
Poor car.. :(

coneZONE
01-10-2017, 08:31 PM
That is, however, exactly the situation a Richmond resident, Jessica Liu, finds herself in, having driven the stunning limited edition — only 100 were made — for only a few kilometres before she inexplicably veered off the road and hit a large stone near Blundell and Garden City roads in December 2015.



“I’m not going to pay a cent; I don’t even want the car back anymore; I want a refund (from the dealer),” Liu, who is in her 30s, told the Richmond News via email from China.

“I don’t think it’s safe to drive. I just drove it for two weeks; I don’t trust the car, I don’t trust the dealer and I don’t trust the autoshop’s invoices.”


Buys a car, crashes it, then demands for a refund :fulloffuck::seriously:

Soundy
01-10-2017, 08:34 PM
That is, however, exactly the situation a Richmond resident, Jessica Liu, finds herself in, having driven the stunning limited edition — only 100 were made — for only a few kilometres before she inexplicably veered off the road...

:pokerface:

Akinari
01-10-2017, 08:37 PM
inexplicably veered off the road = too busy using her rose gold iPhone 7 Plus 256GB while driving as a walkie talkie to WeChat some other sad mainlander.

- kT
01-10-2017, 08:41 PM
Buys a car, crashes it, then demands for a refund :fulloffuck::seriously:

was thinking exactly this. seriously fail to see this logic. typical mainlander attitude, fucks up and blames anything and everything else before casting blame on themselves. crashes car, blames manufacturer. burns food, blames oven. smfh

pastarocket
01-10-2017, 08:44 PM
The only fortunate outcome of this mainlander's accident is that no other driver was injured by her terrible driving.

She wanted to save money on her insurance bill by only getting basic coverage. :lawl:

That poor stone near Blundell and Garden City road. :troll:

fliptuner
01-10-2017, 08:54 PM
Penny saved is a penny earned :troll:

At least it didn't get stolen. What are the chances it had theft coverage?

ae101
01-10-2017, 09:03 PM
Buys a car, crashes it, then demands for a refund :fulloffuck::seriously:

I guess u have never met a cheapskate chinese mainlander

I know this one guy with a porcshe and he cheaps out on basic maintenance, mans unbelievable he try to cut down on oil change lol

coneZONE
01-10-2017, 09:13 PM
I guess u have never met a cheapskate chinese mainlander
l

haha, oh believe me, I have.

Long story short, we were doing a renovation contract for this one dude, he wouldn't pay money on time, so eventually the work was delayed/halted.
Tried to put the blame on us, sent us lawyer letters, threatened us, put our personal info on WeChat, then sent people to come and vandalize our car (it was written off :(), kept threatening us.

Eventually, the police had to take us away from our home and hide us somewhere else, in order to find and arrest him lol


Seriously though. They are a whole messed up bunch.

jdzle69
01-10-2017, 09:15 PM
“I don’t think it’s safe to drive. I just drove it for two weeks; I don’t trust the car, I don’t trust the dealer and I don’t trust the autoshop’s invoices.”


Funniest shit i've seen all day!

Nlkko
01-10-2017, 09:35 PM
REKT. That is all.

twitchyzero
01-10-2017, 10:17 PM
A R T O F S T A N C E

are the rotors actually model-specific or can you put a FoMoCo part on it and still function to specification?

68style
01-10-2017, 10:25 PM
I'll take it off her hands, find a good welder... Nobody has to know :pokerface:

RevYouUp
01-11-2017, 12:50 AM
no one asked for pics yet

RickyTan3
01-11-2017, 01:08 AM
sounds like she follows the saying "If it breaks ill just buy a new one"
Then when it breaks they freak the fuck out, this isn't an iPhone hunny

Mr.Money
01-11-2017, 01:24 AM
everyone's picturing a stereotype of a South Park Asian.

Dragon-88
01-11-2017, 08:07 AM
A little more info for you guys!

Apparently she wasn't even driving it was her friend.

This is car #014/100 (Bad luck for chinese, probably why she doesn't want it anymore)

She agreed on the quote, paid half and then had a fit and got lawyers involved. Storage fees and all that was in the original docs. So basically got lawyers involved cause she wants to try and reneg the contract. So really there is nothing is of a surprise from her end she was aware of all of this and signed a contract. Shes just a cheap bitch who is now dragging this on because shes currently in China.

She probably brought this to the media outlets hoping people would feel bad for her.

604STIG
01-11-2017, 08:27 AM
she inexplicably veered off the road and hit a large stone near Blundell and Garden City
Anybody else laugh at the fact that a "stone" could do that kind of damage?:lawl:

Liu, who told BA to stop working on her car last fall, questioned the need to buy a pair of
rotors (brakes)
I agree with her, why do they need to install new rotors when she's never gonna use them. Take out her turn signals while your at it.

Hakkaboy
01-11-2017, 10:23 AM
I agree with her, why do they need to install new rotors when she's never gonna use them. Take out her turn signals while your at it.

Not trying to defend her, but based on the article she's questioning why they are buying 2 rotors instead of just 1 if only one of them were damaged.

cho
01-11-2017, 10:36 AM
Not trying to defend her, but based on the article she's questioning why they are buying 2 rotors instead of just 1 if only one of them were damaged.

Explaining parts of the $132,000 bill, Frank Van Pykstra, co-owner of BA, said the brakes are ceramic and, therefore, “they can’t be machined” like regular brakes.

As for needing a pair of rotors and not just one, Van Pykstra said, “When you’re braking in this car, in any car really, the brakes need to be balanced. You can’t replace just one.”

Bender Unit
01-11-2017, 10:36 AM
had goolge it to find out what's so special about this limited editon.

J Bond wasn't even driving DB9 in the movie.....
Bond Styple :troll:

DB9 coupe Centenary Edition « Aston Martins.com (http://astonmartins.com/car/db9-centenary-edition/)

Gumby
01-11-2017, 10:37 AM
Not trying to defend her, but based on the article she's questioning why they are buying 2 rotors instead of just 1 if only one of them were damaged.
I don't know if it's BS or not, but the repair shop claims that the brakes need to be balanced, so they need to be replaced in pairs.

Urrtoast
01-11-2017, 10:41 AM
Richmond driver of Bond-style car shaken, stirred over bill (http://www.richmond-news.com/news/richmond-driver-of-bond-style-car-shaken-stirred-over-bill-1.6930405)



:fulloffuck:

Who pays $200k for a car and then just gets basic insurance???

Someone who cannot really afford such a expensive car. Serves her right for being cheap.

inv4zn
01-11-2017, 10:41 AM
My mechanic told me the same thing, because if you have uneven rotors when you slam on the brakes there'll be slight pressure difference and you might veer to one side.

I'm sure the effect is more pronounced in a hi-po car?

SumAznGuy
01-11-2017, 10:44 AM
Not trying to defend her, but based on the article she's questioning why they are buying 2 rotors instead of just 1 if only one of them were damaged.

I don't know if it's BS or not, but the repair shop claims that the brakes need to be balanced, so they need to be replaced in pairs.

I thought about this and wanted to call BS, but then it dawned on me.
The good rotor may have had some wear on it and they may be replacing the pads as well.
So it is in the owners best interest to replace both rotors since they are installing new pads since the rotors cannot be machined.

Urrtoast
01-11-2017, 10:49 AM
“I don’t think it’s safe to drive. I just drove it for two weeks; I don’t trust the car, I don’t trust the dealer and I don’t trust the autoshop’s invoices.”


Funniest shit i've seen all day!

I Don't trust her driving maybe ICBC should revoke her licence,
What a Dumbass

Dragon-88
01-11-2017, 10:49 AM
Liu took the car to a Richmond repair shop, where she obtained a much cheaper quote for the subframe. However, she discovered the subframe can only be bought by an Aston Martin-approved technician and the only approved facility in B.C. is BA.

Richmond shop probably quoted a subframe from a wrecked AM.

TopsyCrett
01-11-2017, 10:49 AM
inexplicably veered off the road = too busy using her rose gold iPhone 7 Plus 256GB while driving as a walkie talkie to WeChat some other sad mainlander.

:awwyeah: spit out my coffee. Too true Lol.

IMASA
01-11-2017, 01:31 PM
Made it to Jalopnik

Aston Martin Owner Crashes Car, Reportedly Refuses To Pay $130,000 Repair Bill (http://jalopnik.com/aston-martin-owner-crashes-car-reportedly-refuses-to-p-1791087152)

pastarocket
01-11-2017, 01:45 PM
Who thinks that this situation with the mainlander's Aston and the repair shop will be resolved faster than the resolved situation with DrMike, Scamthony Espinoza, and the Lexus? :lawl:

Get your popcorn ready. This is gonna be good. :troll:


https://media3.giphy.com/media/9EBEp1O2f6HbG/200_s.gif

604STIG
01-11-2017, 01:46 PM
Hopefully we can get a steady stream of updates. Anybody know that repair shop or the owner?

Dragon-88
01-11-2017, 01:53 PM
Hopefully we can get a steady stream of updates. Anybody know that repair shop or the owner?

From the article

Since then, Liu’s 007 replica has been languishing in the luxury bodyshop of Burrard Autostrasse (BA) in Vancouver.

Ill update more when I get more info.. :) Last I heard this lady is in China right now which is even prolonging this issue and adding to her storage fees.

pastarocket
01-11-2017, 01:58 PM
Mainlander lady thinks that this problem with her Aston's repairs will go away if she spends some time in the old country? :troll:

Talk about irresponsible behaviour and apathy!

Ride
01-11-2017, 02:50 PM
I bet someone from MM or vscc or whatever that fob club is called is schooling her to take it from shop to shop and question what the bodyshop is telling her.

The_AK
01-11-2017, 03:24 PM
Classic ID-10-T error

Matsuda
01-11-2017, 06:05 PM
A R T O F S T A N C E

are the rotors actually model-specific or can you put a FoMoCo part on it and still function to specification?

I should contact her for a feature :troll:

FerrariEnzo
01-11-2017, 06:16 PM
Why Im not surprised.. Mainlander crashing expensive cars...

STAY in china biotch...

twitchyzero
01-11-2017, 08:57 PM
no one asked for pics yet

pics?

Peturbo
01-11-2017, 09:38 PM
I've always thought it was common knowledge you should replace rotors in pairs.
From reading this thread, apparently not...

asma123
01-11-2017, 11:50 PM
I agree with her in a sense that the repair bill is ridiculous. I wish more pictures of the damage was visible.
As for brakes and rotors yes for sure you should replace them in pairs.

Mr.C
01-12-2017, 12:48 AM
Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that if anything is wrong with the car and this idiot crashes it again, if the repair isn't done 100% to spec, it's gonna be BA's ass on the line.

So obviously they will replace everything.

Not that that car will ever be fixed. They'll just put a lien on it eventually and take it.

Timpo
01-12-2017, 06:49 AM
Is it common to have only basic insurance for expensive cars like this?

She should just sell the car for cheap, somebody might fix it up as a project.

IMASA
01-12-2017, 07:46 AM
I've always thought it was common knowledge you should replace rotors in pairs.


Is it common to have only basic insurance for expensive cars like this?



Common sense is not as common as you'd think.

thumper
01-12-2017, 09:03 AM
I've always thought it was common knowledge you should replace rotors in pairs.
From reading this thread, apparently not...

not sure what it's like for carbon brake rotors. i can't find the post i read elsewhere but it was on a porsche forum where someone was asking if he could replace just one disc that got scored badly from a stone caught in the pad, and because there was little wear in the rotors he was hoping to get away with just the one because of the replacement cost.

on a side note, would a "chip" in a carbon disc would mean it would start to fray and come apart under load?

ie this:

http://rennlist.com/forums/attachments/997-forum/649250d1342559440-help-ceramic-brakes-imgp0729.jpg

becomes this (not the same rotor):

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/tf-ent/MovIt%20Brakes/Ceramic%20Brakes/Broken%20Ceramic%20Photos/d7b8_1.jpg

originalhypa
01-12-2017, 09:14 AM
She probably brought this to the media outlets hoping people would feel bad for her.

All the while the media was like,
https://i.imgflip.com/vo2sz.jpg

"Oh, please tell me more."


Richmond shop probably quoted a subframe from a wrecked AM.

Is there a Maaco in Richmond?

prudz
01-12-2017, 09:19 AM
You would think she wouldn't have it rotting in a shop, but rather her large driveway where it wouldn't be racking up a massive storage bill. Then again she doesn't seem that bright to begin with. Basic insurance coverage, driving a performance car she clearly couldn't handle, trying to fix it half assed then blaming the dealer she bought it from? Legit burst out laughing when she said she is faulting the dealer for these issues.

GLOW
01-12-2017, 09:23 AM
no she would lose face if she left a car looking like that in her driveway.

Dragon-88
01-12-2017, 09:35 AM
You would think she wouldn't have it rotting in a shop, but rather her large driveway where it wouldn't be racking up a massive storage bill. Then again she doesn't seem that bright to begin with. Basic insurance coverage, driving a performance car she clearly couldn't handle, trying to fix it half assed then blaming the dealer she bought it from? Legit burst out laughing when she said she is faulting the dealer for these issues.

You have to pay to get it out of the shop since repairs have been done. If you don't pay you don't get the car. Then you have to pay storage fees. So really she does have the option to get the car out, shes just being a fucktard.

The lady agreed on a signed contract for the repairs and is now trying to back out after repairs are done.

prudz
01-12-2017, 09:55 AM
Oh Shit! I didn't realize they fixed it. I thought the work was pending.

Dragon-88
01-12-2017, 11:30 AM
Oh Shit! I didn't realize they fixed it. I thought the work was pending.

Majority of it is done. Still needs paint and body work put back on, but theres no rush now.. LOL

Apparently the fade on the hood is impossible to replicate so its been put away so it doesn't get damaged.

prudz
01-12-2017, 11:54 AM
I feel bad for the shops involved. I can only imagine the headache MCL is having with this lady. Why on earth would you not have full coverage on a $200k vehicle?

dvst8
01-12-2017, 01:16 PM
Anyone else think the bill is out line for the repairs costs?
Judging by the 1 pic, that does not look like a 132k worth for parts/labour but what do I know...

Pair of brake rotors for 30k just sounds absurd.
http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Details/Item/134/DB9-Front-Brake-Discs-(pair).
http://www.velocityap.com/Aston-Martin-Brake-Rotors-Pads-Replacement-2-Piece-s/1847.htm local

pastarocket
01-12-2017, 01:31 PM
Anyone else think the bill is out line for the repairs costs?
Judging by the 1 pic, that does not look like a 132k worth for parts/labour but what do I know...

Pair of brake rotors for 30k just sounds absurd.
Aston Martin DB9 DB9 Front Brake Discs (pair) | HWM Aston Martin Parts Shop (http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Details/Item/134/DB9-Front-Brake-Discs-(pair)).
Aston Martin Brake Rotors, Pads, Replacement 2-Piece (http://www.velocityap.com/Aston-Martin-Brake-Rotors-Pads-Replacement-2-Piece-s/1847.htm) local

Ceramic brakes for an Aston must be really expensive. :troll:

This dumbass mainlander is not only gonna lose the case against MCL but will also be paying so much in legal fees, repair costs, and the storage fee.

-not to mention the increase in her insurance premium for her broken Aston now that ICBC will not insure her car. LUL

Timpo
01-12-2017, 01:49 PM
lol she obviously was living above her means. :facepalm:

When you do pretentious thing like buying a $200,000 Aston Martin but didn't want to spend few extra bucks for collision coverage, you obviously maxed out your credit card or just a poser who has no self esteem other than proving yourself with high end brand goods like Japanese girls do with $30+k Hermes Berkins.

Guess what...
She probably didn't do proper regular maintenance on that is recommended by Aston Martin.
Probably putting regular gas and mineral oil too.

pastarocket
01-12-2017, 01:52 PM
lol she obviously was living above her means. :facepalm:

When you do pretentious thing like buying a $200,000 Aston Martin but didn't want to spend few extra bucks for collision coverage, you obviously maxed out your credit card or just a poser who has no self esteem other than proving yourself with high end brand goods like Japanese girls do with $30+k Hermes Berkins.

Guess what...
She probably didn't do proper regular maintenance on that is recommended by Aston Martin.
Probably putting regular gas and mineral oil too.

Your comments are funny, Timpo. Mineral engine oil for an Aston. :lawl:

thumper
01-12-2017, 01:55 PM
Anyone else think the bill is out line for the repairs costs?
Judging by the 1 pic, that does not look like a 132k worth for parts/labour but what do I know...

Pair of brake rotors for 30k just sounds absurd.
Aston Martin DB9 DB9 Front Brake Discs (pair) | HWM Aston Martin Parts Shop (http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Details/Item/134/DB9-Front-Brake-Discs-(pair)).
Aston Martin Brake Rotors, Pads, Replacement 2-Piece (http://www.velocityap.com/Aston-Martin-Brake-Rotors-Pads-Replacement-2-Piece-s/1847.htm) local

her car comes with carbon brake rotors, not the standard steel brakes...

Dragon-88
01-12-2017, 02:00 PM
Anyone else think the bill is out line for the repairs costs?
Judging by the 1 pic, that does not look like a 132k worth for parts/labour but what do I know...

Pair of brake rotors for 30k just sounds absurd.
Aston Martin DB9 DB9 Front Brake Discs (pair) | HWM Aston Martin Parts Shop (http://www.astonmartinparts.net/Details/Item/134/DB9-Front-Brake-Discs-(pair)).
Aston Martin Brake Rotors, Pads, Replacement 2-Piece (http://www.velocityap.com/Aston-Martin-Brake-Rotors-Pads-Replacement-2-Piece-s/1847.htm) local

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4f/45/1c/4f451c6a8a1fe7bb4e18dff407897086.jpg

Carbon Ceramic.

Timpo
01-12-2017, 02:10 PM
Your comments are funny, Timpo. Mineral engine oil for an Aston. :lawl:

yeah I think Aston requires synthetic.

LP700-4
01-12-2017, 05:06 PM
I wonder how worn the brakes actually are. Most of these cars do less than 2k a year. Can't be that bad can it?

Timpo
01-12-2017, 05:46 PM
I wonder how worn the brakes actually are. Most of these cars do less than 2k a year. Can't be that bad can it?

That's not entirely true.

As Gordon Murray and multiple journalists said, ever since Acura NSX came into the market back in 1990, supercars manufactures have changed their game and have come a long way.

Ferrari and Lamborghini back in the day had to get their engine rebuilt like every 10,000kms, clutch change every 3,000kms, constant electronical problems, ergonomically incorrect driving position, transmission/differentials tooth kept chipping every few thousand miles, horrible side/rear view, power components rarely work properly, etc.

Back in the day, you couldn't drive a supercar everyday without doing major work.

Fast forward today, Ferrari, Lamborghini, and all the other supercars are BUILT TO LAST. You can see people driving 100,000 miles on it too.

adambomb
01-12-2017, 06:35 PM
http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.6930408.1484092607!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/aston.jpg

That should buff out... SeemsGood
"so baby pull me closer to the back seat of your Martin that I know you can't afford..."

vantrip
01-12-2017, 06:53 PM
Funny thing is, full insurance on high end vehicles (relatively speaking) is cheap!

My friend has 10 yrs + claim free record and pays $5000/yr for a brand new california which is his daily. For reference I pay $3300/yr for a honda :okay:

ZN6
01-12-2017, 07:00 PM
How do I camber so aggressively like that?

Timpo
01-12-2017, 07:58 PM
But seriously though, why does it cost $130+k?

It is because of the carbon ceramic disk? Where does the other $100+k come from?

Also you don't NEED carbon ceramic, base model DB9 didn't have it anyways.
https://aston1936.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/aston-martin-db9-front-brake1.jpg

Timpo
01-12-2017, 08:00 PM
Actually, just send it to Liberty Walk, they might have better idea what they can do.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EFgSnAfVn88/maxresdefault.jpg

teggy604
01-12-2017, 08:02 PM
Good thing she didn't buy full coverage or icbc(technically us) will be paying that 132,000 dollar bill.

Dragon-88
01-13-2017, 07:36 AM
But seriously though, why does it cost $130+k?

It is because of the carbon ceramic disk? Where does the other $100+k come from?

Also you don't NEED carbon ceramic, base model DB9 didn't have it anyways.
https://aston1936.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/aston-martin-db9-front-brake1.jpg

Thats becuase its not just the brakes that need replacing.

Did you miss the part where the whole front sub frame needs to be replaced. Add up to all the parts on the passenger side to replace (suspension, brakes, rims, tire) + labor. Unless you want damaged parts.. You can tell by the pic in the driveway that the tire is so far back that basically all suspension parts need replacing.

Then you want to install lesser value brakes on a 1of100 vehicle?

FerrariEnzo
01-13-2017, 08:07 AM
Being the only shop that can order "original" parts in vancouver from auston martin, they can charge whatever they want.. cha ching

VR6GTI
01-13-2017, 08:43 AM
Being the only shop that can order "original" parts in vancouver from auston martin, they can charge whatever they want.. cha ching
Although that does seem unfair they pay a very hefty fee yearly to be able to order parts like these

pastarocket
01-13-2017, 08:55 AM
I wonder how worn the brakes actually are. Most of these cars do less than 2k a year. Can't be that bad can it?


Perhaps the mainlander lady's driving skills are so bad that she hits those brakes hard every time she tries to avoid those large stones in Richmond. :lawl:

That "large" stone near Blundell and Garden City beat her this time. LUL

prudz
01-13-2017, 10:09 AM
How do I camber so aggressively like that?

Hit a large rock while talking on your iphone 7


:pokerface:

Nlkko
01-13-2017, 11:55 AM
She did it wrong.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder731/500x/62724731.jpg

Manic!
01-13-2017, 12:24 PM
So after repaired how much would the car be worth? I don't think it would be worth that much more then the cost of repairs.

dabbin
01-13-2017, 01:38 PM
But seriously though, why does it cost $130+k?

It is because of the carbon ceramic disk? Where does the other $100+k come from?

Also you don't NEED carbon ceramic, base model DB9 didn't have it anyways.


"To put things into perspective, a pot of the car’s silver paint, which is named after Bond movie Skyfall, chimes in at $900 and a single headlight registers at $7,000."

"Neither of those items, however, form the crux of Liu’s contention, with her focus trained on the cost of a pair of brake rotors ($30,000, plus labour) and a completely new subframe ($25,000, plus labour)."

"To compound her misery, Liu is being dinged $200 a day by BA for storage of the Aston Martin. On Monday, that fee was $18,000."

$81k before labour, suspension components, fender, paint time, additional storage.

originalhypa
01-13-2017, 01:55 PM
I have to say that they lost me at "pot of paint".
How much paint is a pot? Is it a pint, with a bit of autocorrect? Is it a fender worth, or can you paint a whole car with 2 pots?

I gotta know!!
SwiftRage

kross9
01-13-2017, 04:50 PM
Thats becuase its not just the brakes that need replacing.

Did you miss the part where the whole front sub frame needs to be replaced. Add up to all the parts on the passenger side to replace (suspension, brakes, rims, tire) + labor. Unless you want damaged parts.. You can tell by the pic in the driveway that the tire is so far back that basically all suspension parts need replacing.

Then you want to install lesser value brakes on a 1of100 vehicle?

To Put in prospective, a Jaguar F-type the Carbon Ceramic rotors are 9500 A CORNER a CORNER!! and and then 2100 for the front rotors alone, not including labour..

Sure the Regular DB9 Might not have had CC brakes but neither did an ftype and if its a from factory i doubt you could change it back..

And engine output also decides what brakes will go on the vehicle. Much like the F-type base, S and R and now SVR.


They will need the subframe (special order from england only thru Certified dealers and repair facilities), Knuckle both Control arms and god know what else too!

boostfever
01-13-2017, 10:33 PM
seen that car very recently at the named shop, it's sitting there in pieces with a cover over it lol
the shop owner is a super nice and reasonable guy, feel bad for him for dealing with such bs

underscore
01-14-2017, 07:12 AM
Also you don't NEED carbon ceramic, base model DB9 didn't have it anyways.

So instead of buying 2 rotors, you're proposing they buy rotors, calipers, pads and try to change any programming in the braking system that's dependent on the ceramics. The end result being a car with lower resale value because it doesn't have the ceramic brakes?

alf
01-14-2017, 03:53 PM
I'm surprised the news agency gave her the time to tell her stupid story, I'm guessing that she shuttles between China and Canada to export her parents cash and live here just long enough to claim residency. now that's a story.

thumper
01-14-2017, 08:54 PM
I have to say that they lost me at "pot of paint".
How much paint is a pot? Is it a pint, with a bit of autocorrect? Is it a fender worth, or can you paint a whole car with 2 pots?

I gotta know!!
SwiftRage

all i could google was that to paint the entire car AM does at least nine coats over 50 man hours... i am going to assume for this repair they are going to paint more than just the fender to blend it all together, ie. the hood and door as well?

Aston Martin Colour and Trim (http://www.astonmartin.com/en/colour-and-trim)

and i think the front fender is carbon fibre?

DragonChi
01-14-2017, 09:04 PM
Sounds like the type o person that has 4 houses, and more cars like this. Then claims low income to reap all the benefits with it. Free MSP, reduced/free rec centre fees, tax avoidance.

Timpo
01-14-2017, 10:24 PM
So instead of buying 2 rotors, you're proposing they buy rotors, calipers, pads and try to change any programming in the braking system that's dependent on the ceramics. The end result being a car with lower resale value because it doesn't have the ceramic brakes?

ok but seriously though, how much better is Aston Martin carbon ceramic compare to all the other ones?

What about something cheap from Chevy? Corvette and Camaro have carbon ceramic too.

Is Aston brakes THAT MUCH better than one on Camaro?

https://www.mrfperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2014-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-Brakes-720.jpg

I found one on eBay for $1,500
2014-15 Chevy Camaro Z28 Front Carbon Ceramic Rotors GM OEM 22958646 177-1164 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-15-Chevy-Camaro-Z28-Front-Carbon-Ceramic-Rotors-GM-OEM-22958646-177-1164-/112076320122)

k3mps
01-15-2017, 01:14 AM
ok but seriously though, how much better is Aston Martin carbon ceramic compare to all the other ones?

What about something cheap from Chevy? Corvette and Camaro have carbon ceramic too.

Is Aston brakes THAT MUCH better than one on Camaro?

https://www.mrfperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2014-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-Brakes-720.jpg

I found one on eBay for $1,500
2014-15 Chevy Camaro Z28 Front Carbon Ceramic Rotors GM OEM 22958646 177-1164 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-15-Chevy-Camaro-Z28-Front-Carbon-Ceramic-Rotors-GM-OEM-22958646-177-1164-/112076320122)

It doesn't freakin matter how much better or worse or cheaper it is then other CC rotors on other brands, let alone a domestic brand.

What matters is that they restore the car to its ORIGINAL condition, as it left the FACTORY floor. You don't cheap out and downgrade a car, especially a high performance car. That's called screwing a customer, which to some, is maybe a little unethical.

I don't know about you, but if my car was being repaired at a body shop, you bet I'd want it repaired to factory spec.

But then again, we all would've bought the correct insurance.

tinico
01-15-2017, 05:43 AM
ok but seriously though, how much better is Aston Martin carbon ceramic compare to all the other ones?

What about something cheap from Chevy? Corvette and Camaro have carbon ceramic too.

Is Aston brakes THAT MUCH better than one on Camaro?

....

come on Timpo you're better than that! So what about they grab the fender, headlight, subframe, paint, etc from a Hyundai Excel ?
specially for a customer like this, would you risk not putting 2 new rotors and whatever else that may seem redundant to some, only to give that customer the opportunity to crash again and come back at you lawyered up for not replacing those parts?

Timpo
01-15-2017, 12:29 PM
It doesn't freakin matter how much better or worse or cheaper it is then other CC rotors on other brands, let alone a domestic brand.

What matters is that they restore the car to its ORIGINAL condition, as it left the FACTORY floor. You don't cheap out and downgrade a car, especially a high performance car. That's called screwing a customer, which to some, is maybe a little unethical.

I don't know about you, but if my car was being repaired at a body shop, you bet I'd want it repaired to factory spec.

But then again, we all would've bought the correct insurance.

Did you even read the whole story? The owner didn't buy collision coverage.

If ICBC was trying to screw over customer, sure I agree with you.
But in this case, she decided not to purchase extra insurance and now complaining about repair cost.

vantrip
01-15-2017, 02:45 PM
Did you even read the whole story? The owner didn't buy collision coverage.

If ICBC was trying to screw over customer, sure I agree with you.
But in this case, she decided not to purchase extra insurance and now complaining about repair cost.

I don't think BA will do a cheap 'hack job' if thats is what your trying to get at. There a ICBC valet shop that has to warranty the work for lifetime. They will not skimp on quality just because this lady is being cheap, there's no need to.

k3mps
01-15-2017, 07:34 PM
Did you even read the whole story? The owner didn't buy collision coverage.

If ICBC was trying to screw over customer, sure I agree with you.
But in this case, she decided not to purchase extra insurance and now complaining about repair cost.

http://i.imgur.com/tyTc1Nl.jpg

Iron Chef
01-16-2017, 07:06 AM
No where did they state that as per Aston Martin rotors are required to be replaced as a set. They left it ambiguous and open for interpretation stating there opinion and Not fact.

If I were the customer I would want technical literature stating they need to replaced as a set before spending 30k on rotors. Keep in mind the other side is essentially brand new with under 1000km. Ceramic rotors should last the life of the car, that's why you pay the premium for them.

If BA was smart they would have got the customer to prepay the rotors and subframe and other special order parts before starting work. I'm curious to know
How much there into the job for parts and labour and how much the customer has actually paid. I hope BA has solid documentation of customer approval before going to court or else they will loose big time in court, regardless this job is a huge looser once you factor in the legal fees.

It's shitty situation to be in for both parties involved.

Timpo
01-16-2017, 08:37 AM
I don't think BA will do a cheap 'hack job' if thats is what your trying to get at. There a ICBC valet shop that has to warranty the work for lifetime. They will not skimp on quality just because this lady is being cheap, there's no need to.

Sorry for my ignorance, what does BA mean?

Anyways, yeah if original parts were too expensive, I was suggesting she has an option to go for aftermarket.

Chevy Camaro Carbon Ceramic Brakes
http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Camaro-Z28-Brakes-720x340.jpeg

Custom Tubular Subframe
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p239/i3igpete/154.jpg

If it needs new suspension, there are so many coilover kit for DB9 as well.
http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/velocity-ap-aston-martin-db9-dbs-coilvers-ng_1388848871.jpg

and body can be custom made as I suggested already
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EFgSnAfVn88/maxresdefault.jpg

thumper
01-16-2017, 08:38 AM
BA = Burrard Autostrasse, the name of the shop that is fixing the car.

Lomac
01-16-2017, 09:46 PM
No where did they state that as per Aston Martin rotors are required to be replaced as a set. They left it ambiguous and open for interpretation stating there opinion and Not fact.

If I were the customer I would want technical literature stating they need to replaced as a set before spending 30k on rotors. Keep in mind the other side is essentially brand new with under 1000km. Ceramic rotors should last the life of the car, that's why you pay the premium for them.

If BA was smart they would have got the customer to prepay the rotors and subframe and other special order parts before starting work. I'm curious to know
How much there into the job for parts and labour and how much the customer has actually paid. I hope BA has solid documentation of customer approval before going to court or else they will loose big time in court, regardless this job is a huge looser once you factor in the legal fees.

It's shitty situation to be in for both parties involved.

Not certain about AM, but Ferrari requires ceramic rotors to be replaced in pairs. I'm sure AM is probably the same. In theory, even steel rotors should be replaced in pairs.

Iron Chef
01-17-2017, 06:31 AM
if it's my car and I'm paying for the repairs I only want 1 rotor you can't make me buy 2 unless there only sold in pairs which I doubt they are.

freakshow
02-03-2017, 10:17 AM
if it's my car and I'm paying for the repairs I only want 1 rotor you can't make me buy 2 unless there only sold in pairs which I doubt they are.Then BA won't do it for you. Go find someone else. Do you really want to be the body shop that put mismatched rotors on a customer car so that when they crash it again they can blame you?

The_AK
02-03-2017, 10:37 AM
Pretty sure only logical solution is to swap engine into FRS

E-SPEC
02-04-2017, 12:12 PM
More like swap her ass out of the Country w/ no chance of return.

Marco911
02-05-2017, 11:16 PM
She should replace the CC rotors with the normal steel rotors. No programming necessary. Just a swap of the disks and pads.

vitaminG
01-04-2018, 01:42 PM
update on this idiot, so much lol

Richmond owner of Bond-style car files lawsuit over $135,000 repair bill (http://richmond-news.com/news/richmond-owner-of-bond-style-car-files-lawsuit-over-135-000-repair-bill-1.23135428)

As a result of the alleged actions of the defendants, Liu is claiming a long list of personal injuries, including: depression and anxiety; panic disorders; flashbacks; suicidal periods; weight loss; sleeping disorders; low self-esteem; emotional expression issues; humiliation; trust issues and impaired ability to form intimate relationships.

those last two probably have something to do with the fact shes proven herself to be a complete moron

BaoTurbo
01-04-2018, 01:56 PM
Doesn't the legal bill amount to close to what the repair bill is? Lolwot

Scotsman
01-04-2018, 01:59 PM
Thanks for the update

Well the lawyers are getting rich. MCL and Autostrasse have counter sued her.

Badhobz
01-04-2018, 02:08 PM
worth it.

this dumb bitch should have sued her auto broker for letting her buy just basic insurance. maybe that ll hold up better than the horsemeat beefsteak story shes coming up with.
i hope mcl makes her pay all of that and then some.

p.s i miss timpo

bcedhk
01-04-2018, 03:36 PM
I'm surprised the news agency gave her the time to tell her stupid story, I'm guessing that she shuttles between China and Canada to export her parents cash and live here just long enough to claim residency. now that's a story.

Surprised? who ever decided to report this is a genius. Look at all the attention it is getting. Alan probably had a nice giggle writing it too.

I'm sure Richmond News will be getting a lot of ad revenue from this article.

320icar
01-04-2018, 03:41 PM
Cunt.

donk.
01-04-2018, 06:39 PM
I was in a bad mood, then this thread got bumped, im in a good mood now from re-reading the first page

thank you RS

ilovebacon
01-04-2018, 09:13 PM
she is getting fucked upppp!
The damage cant be that bad from hitting a rock. How big is this rock..

SpeedStars
01-04-2018, 09:23 PM
she is getting fucked upppp!
The damage cant be that bad from hitting a rock. How big is this rock..

Ever heard of the Titanic? :troll:

teggy604
01-05-2018, 11:28 AM
If she loses, she probably go back to China and not pay the bill.

originalhypa
01-05-2018, 12:09 PM
http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.6930408.1484092607!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/aston.jpg

That should buff out... SeemsGood
"so baby pull me closer to the back seat of your Martin that I know you can't afford..."

In memory of a once great Aston Martin.
This would pull so much tail in Surrey.
EleGiggle

pastarocket
01-05-2018, 12:21 PM
This dumbass bitch complains that she is being taken advantage by MCL because of her poor command of English?

She sounds fluent in English to me: In MCL’s counter suit, it’s alleged Liu published a series of defamatory statements in a post to an online WeChat group, where she accused MCL of “selling horse meat as beefsteak,” lying, cheating and being “shady.”

Her English language skill is definitely better than her driving skills. :lawl:

originalhypa
01-05-2018, 12:22 PM
Her English language skill is definitely than her driving skills. :lawl:

:fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

nicely done.

pastarocket
01-05-2018, 12:23 PM
:fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

nice.


I didn't correct my error fast enough. My bad. :lawl:

pastarocket
01-05-2018, 12:28 PM
Warning to all single guys in the lower Mainland who are looking for a dating relationship with an Asian lady. Stay the hell away from this crazy bitch!

As a result of the alleged actions of the defendants, Liu is claiming a long list of personal injuries, including: depression and anxiety; panic disorders; flashbacks; suicidal periods; weight loss; sleeping disorders; low self-esteem; emotional expression issues; humiliation; trust issues and impaired ability to form intimate relationships.

Dragon-88
01-05-2018, 12:48 PM
If someone bought this on the cheap and resold it, they could make a pretty penny. No coverage which means ICBC doesnt have a claim, privately repaired = clean status.

yray
01-05-2018, 01:34 PM
https://i1.read01.com/SIG=1pjpna4/3045715a517056386363.jpg
https://i1.read01.com/SIG=2fjlm1a/3045715a5170386e7345.jpg

labour is pretty fair but those parts LOL

vitaminG
01-05-2018, 01:34 PM
^ Ya but is got run the vin there's probably record of the work done to it

Hakkaboy
01-05-2018, 01:53 PM
A little more info for you guys!

Apparently she wasn't even driving it was her friend.

This is car #014/100 (Bad luck for chinese, probably why she doesn't want it anymore)



If someone bought this on the cheap and resold it, they could make a pretty penny. No coverage which means ICBC doesnt have a claim, privately repaired = clean status.

Doubt it, especially if they do a search for it now.

FerrariEnzo
01-05-2018, 02:13 PM
If someone bought this on the cheap and resold it, they could make a pretty penny. No coverage which means ICBC doesnt have a claim, privately repaired = clean status.

Get the guy who on this forum to do it that redid his body work! Whats the dudes name?

:troll:

Mancini
01-07-2018, 10:41 AM
I'd like to see a trial outcome but this will probably settle at mediation.

snowfarmer
01-07-2018, 02:46 PM
frankly she seems crazy enough to take this to trial and fortunately our legal system is generally quite sane and even-handed, she will lose the case and this is going to end up costing her. Fingers crossed this train wreck stays in the news!

I'd like to see a trial outcome but this will probably settle at mediation.

ZN6
01-07-2018, 02:52 PM
Money can't buy class or smarts. Some people just love digging holes deeper for themselves. Ain't that right @BNR32_Coupe?

Lol bring him back please.

snowfarmer
01-07-2018, 02:59 PM
frankly she seems crazy enough to take this to trial and fortunately our legal system is generally quite sane and even-handed, she will lose the case and this is going to end up costing her. Fingers crossed this train wreck stays in the news!

I'd like to see a trial outcome but this will probably settle at mediation.