[thumper]

Looks like Dodge?s Demon will have AWD, 912 lb.-ft. of torque | Driving (http://driving.ca/dodge/auto-news/news/looks-like-dodges-demon-will-have-awd-912-lb-ft-of-torque)

Looks like Dodge’s Demon will have AWD, 912 lb.-ft. of torque

http://wpmedia.driving.ca/2017/01/landscape-1485435743-demon1.jpg?quality=70&strip=all&w=960&h=480&crop=1

Cryptic photo hints at massive torque driving massive drag tires. Just take my money now

Clayton Seams by CLAYTON SEAMS | 8 HOURS AGO
Dodge released a press photo today of its upcoming and secretive Challenger Hellcat Demon, wearing fender flares and super-wide 315-millimetre tires – but that’s not the most interesting part. The big news is on the license plate. The photoshopped plate reads #2576@35. And that could mean it makes 2,756 lb.-ft. of torque at 3,500 rpm at each of its four wheels. Does that sound ludicrous? Let me explain.

True mechanical torque – what comes out to the wheels – is calculated by engine torque multiplied by gear ratio, multiplied again by final drive ratio and divided by the amount of drive wheels. Now here’s the interesting bit: The “normal” Hellcat, which has 650 lb.-ft. of torque from its 6.2-litre supercharged V8, puts out 4,010 lb.-ft. to each rear wheel. It seems very unlikely that this new Demon will make less power than a Hellcat, so if we assume this thing has the same gear and axle ratios as a Hellcat, then with 2,756 lb.-ft. going to all four wheels, this could have 912 lb.-ft. of torque at the crank. Could it be possible? Given the lengths Dodge seems to be willing to go with these Hellcat versions, we’re sure it’ll be newsworthy and record breaking. What a time to be alive.

The car is now 89-mm wider thanks to large fender flares on all four wheels. The choice for wide 315-mm front tires nets Dodge the record for widest front tires on a production car – and the choice of a drag radial up front also hints at it being an AWD car. Drag radials like to wander on the highway and you don’t need them on the front axle unless you have the front wheels driven.

If all this is true, then the Demon’s rear end in this photo is all the competition is going to see at the local dragstrip.

https://youtu.be/DDJip8RHn-8


http://www.dodge.com/en/ifyouknowyouknow/

[The_AK]

315 tires on all 4 corners is pretty massive, this should be cool

[thumper]

just slightly bigger than the z/28 which had 305's all around...

demon: http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/crop/7909x4440+0+4/resize/716x402!/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/8f513c72d3864929f367481f04fb06db/204858889/srt_demon_widebody_tirent7j8pguesa1jo9kqgitlg39co. jpg

[Berzerker]

Wonder if they used the drive train from the STR8 Jeep? Sounds like they recreated Ken Blocks Hoonicorn

Berz out.

[vitaminG]

how could it do burnouts with awd?

also what would be the point of putting drag radials on it if its awd?

[hchang]

how could it do burnouts with awd?

also what would be the point of putting drag radials on it if its awd?

It's not a mustang

[Great68]

how could it do burnouts with awd?


You see little timmy,
When a car's engine provides the wheels with more torque and power than available traction, the tires spin and generate heat through friction, enough heat that the rubber compound starts to combust and turn into smoke.

It looks something like this:

http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/21/2015/01/ken-block-gymkhana-7-1965-ford-mustang-burnout.jpg

[- kT]

^ that was chained to the ground. regardless of the crazy torque, i don't think it'd be an easy feat to do a burnout on an awd with 315's, at least not for a very long time. but I guess if those 315's are drag radials..

[68style]

It's pretty simple really, no tire in the world is going to be able to stick with almost 1,000lb/ft of torque tearing them apart... Burnouts will not be an issue.

[Mr.Money]

kinda surprised the hellcat didn't have a roll cage,neither does this..Danger!

[sdubfid]

Should have the same torque to weight ratio as a dually cummins.

[SumAznGuy]

how could it do burnouts with awd?

also what would be the point of putting drag radials on it if its awd?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXc88yiCejs

I'm guessing they can adjust the awd system to be 100% rear bias to do a burnout on the rear tires.
As for why it needs drag radials on all 4 corners.
Because race car.

[Berzerker]

They will undoubtedly have a control module to turn the AWD off for rear burnout box action at the strip. You have to really. Having drag radials on all 4 will again be drag race track specific. Driving around with them on all the time will be hard on the tires and it will wobble at highway speeds. If you've ever driven around with slicks on the highway (back in the glory days of street racing going from spot to spot) it's not fun lol.

Berz out.

[Harvey Specter]

And who said gas powered muscle cars are dead? Can't wait to see reviews on this beast.

[white rocket]

I absolutely fucking hate Chrysler and their products but their Hellcat stuff is off the chain. Hope the build quality doesn't see these things falling apart in 5 years.

[thumper]

so if the rumors are true the demon is awd, this short youtube review on how the awd system works in the new gt might tell us what to expect:

https://youtu.be/51SlZwadAkA

[Lowered_Klass]

I'm all for these cars, and their rediculous power numbers...

BUT, perhaps Dodge could focus on the fit and finish of the vehicles in question first? I swear to god, every single one of these cars I see, the panel gaps etc are beyond bad, especially the trunk lid/tail lights. At night it's even more obvious, due to the tail light design. Anyone paying that kind of money for a car shouldn't be getting such shit IMO

[Manic!]

I'm all for these cars, and their rediculous power numbers...

BUT, perhaps Dodge could focus on the fit and finish of the vehicles in question first? I swear to god, every single one of these cars I see, the panel gaps etc are beyond bad, especially the trunk lid/tail lights. At night it's even more obvious, due to the tail light design. Anyone paying that kind of money for a car shouldn't be getting such shit IMO

It's a muscle car. The target audience does not care about fit and finish. It's all about the power. Being a muscle car it has to be able to do a burnout or it can't be called a muscle car.

[twitchyzero]

cringed at the marketing, are they targeting teenagers?

is it sad that I want FCA to build an electric Hellcat? Something that will wreck Tesla's ludicrous mode.

[thumper]

I am not less certain that this demon is awd.

I am reading elsewhere that the awd system in the gt adds 200lbs to the car, and the demon supposedly is 200lbs less than the hellcat... Dosen't add up.

[vitaminG]

^ it doesnt really make any sense that theres a video of it doing a burnout if its awd, unless it has a 2wd mode specifically for burnouts.

if it is awd and has drag radials then dodge is going to warrantying a lot of busted driveline parts.

i dont see how they could shave 200lbs and also add awd.

[Zoomy]

I'm all for these cars, and their rediculous power numbers...

BUT, perhaps Dodge could focus on the fit and finish of the vehicles in question first? I swear to god, every single one of these cars I see, the panel gaps etc are beyond bad, especially the trunk lid/tail lights. At night it's even more obvious, due to the tail light design. Anyone paying that kind of money for a car shouldn't be getting such shit IMO

We have this motto at work, fit or finished, you only get one.

[thumper]

2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon drops seats, carpets to cut weight - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-drops-seats-carpets-cut-weight/)

Demon shaping up to be an incredibly powerful street and track car

http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2017/01/2018-Dodge-Challenger-SRT-Demon-Badge-Logo.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&fit=around%7C660%3A440

In the lead-up to the April 11 unveiling of the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has been dribbling out tantalizing videos and tidbits of information—like the fact it will weigh 215 pounds less than the current Challenger SRT Hellcat.

If you thought the Hellcat was insane, brace yourself. We have learned a bit about the weight loss program and it takes this car to new levels of anticipation.

For starters, all but the driver’s seat will be optional. Yes, you heard that right. Removing the front passenger and rear seats and the seatbelts and other components associated with having a witness to your driving prowess saves 113 pounds. We assume the seats can be ordered as an option.

With the seats gone, it should be no surprise that the stereo only has two speakers (located in the front doors), carpeting is out, as well as some trunk trim, the spare tire cover, and two pounds worth of parking sensors.

Also out: 18 pounds worth of NVH components which means the Hellcat will sound like a pussycat compared with the Demon.

Manual tilt and telescoping steering wheel saves four pounds and the car will have lighter 18×11-inch aluminum wheels with open lug nuts; a smaller and hollow sway bar; and lighter four-piston brakes.

It adds up to dropping a full 232 pounds but since the car is described as weighing 215 pounds less, it appears 17 pounds were added in other areas that we are sure to learn about over the next few months.

Dodge is releasing teaser videos every Thursday until the car is shown at an event in advance of the New York auto show. We wouldn’t be surprised to see FCA tallying millions of views in the lead-up to showing us its new halo car.

[Berzerker]

Also when going AWD all 4 tires must be the same size. This is another indication that having the big rubber all around would support this.

Berz out.

[vitaminG]

tfw when your car has one seat and no carpeting but still weighs over 4000 lbs.

[thumper]

hellcat crate motor: 800lbs

Hellcat 6.2L HEMI Crate Engine (http://www.modernmusclextreme.com/p-179-hellcat-62l-hemi-crate-engine.aspx)

[thumper]

so... not AWD after all. looks to be a single-minded drag car only:

2018 Dodge Demon: Forget AWD; New Video Confirms RWD ? News ?$Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/2018-dodge-demon-forget-awd-new-video-confirms-rwd-and-big-box-of-stuff-for-owners/)

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2018-Dodge-Challenger-SRT-Demon-03-626x382.jpg

We were wrong. The 2018 Challenger SRT Demon that Dodge has been teasing for weeks now will not, as we previously speculated, be all-wheel drive. Instead, it will most definitely be rear-wheel drive, as Dodge’s latest teaser video (embedded at the bottom of this post) clearly shows. It’s the latest reveal in a series of information drops; we most recently learned that it’ll have only one seat. The new video depicts a helmeted figure unlatching a large crate and pulling out an aluminum floor jack, a torque wrench, and a cordless impact driver before standing over a disorganized array of all three along with a tire gauge, the jack’s removable handle, and—the really key bits—a pair of skinny wheels and tires. Dodge Challenger SRT Demon Parts Dodge earlier confirmed that the car will be delivered on four ultrawide Nitto drag radials. That fact, plus our speculation on the meaning of a cryptic license plate shown in one photo, had us thinking AWD. But this latest clip indicates that the Nittos on the front might be simply spares for the rear axle once, you know, you roast the ones back there into oblivion. It’s also possible the skinny tires that owners might use, called “runners” in the drag-racing world, may not be DOT approved; therefore, the additional pair of drag radials could be fitted to allow the car to be legally driven on public roads. Once an owner reaches a drag strip, they can crack open the Demon-branded toolbox and swap out those front meats. How one gets the sizable box to the drag strip is another question. We never get a shot of the back side of the crate. Maybe the skinny wheels are really trailer wheels and the crate is really a mini trailer. Yeah, that’s doubtful. Forced to guess, we bet the tools have a dedicated spot in the car somewhere (or Mopar will sell some sort of organizer/tool bag) and that owners could probably stack the runners in the spare-tire well. 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon In addition to the clip, Dodge released a photo of a badge that appears to be affixed to the top of the box. This special plate reads “Built for: Tom Coddington” (a member of Dodge’s Ramchargers drag-racing team that rose to prominence in the 1960s) and includes the serial number 0757 and a VIN that curiously includes the letters “VIN” followed by “001121.” Are they quarter-mile figures? The Demon clocking 11.21 seconds would be too slow, we think, and 7.57 seconds is ridiculous. Output figures? We doubt that 757 refers to the car’s horsepower, as a mere 50-hp bump seems beneath the Demon’s specialness; we think it’s more likely to be the car’s torque figure in pound-feet, but we also believe Dodge wouldn’t tease any output numbers this early in the process. So what those numbers are pointing to remains a mystery—feel free to speculate in the comments below.
Here’s Our Wild-Ass Speculation about How Much Horsepower and Torque We Think the Dodge Challenger Demon Will Make
Second Dodge SRT Demon Teaser Released! [Video]
Dodge SRT/SRT Hellcat Research: Full Pricing, Reviews, Photos, and More
The video sadly doesn’t give us any more peeks at the Demon itself, only the large tool box sitting at the staging area at a drag strip. The YouTube clip’s description also reads: “The Demon’s crate is full of Direct Connection mods.” Mopar’s accessories catalog, it should be noted, used to advertise bolt-on performance parts as Direct Connection pieces long ago; today they go by the Mopar Performance name. We dig the connection, and we look forward to seeing what else Dodge has up its sleeve for its rear-drive, drag-strip-centric Challenger creation.

https://youtu.be/88Z1UYuMAD4

[Timpo]

hellcat crate motor: 800lbs

Hellcat 6.2L HEMI Crate Engine (http://www.modernmusclextreme.com/p-179-hellcat-62l-hemi-crate-engine.aspx)

800 lbs?? Lol what a piece of shit.

The LS7 from Corvette weighed approx 450 lbs.

[vitaminG]

youre comparing a supercharged iron block engine, with an all aluminum n/a engine.

how much does all aluminum vr38det weight? probably closer to hellcat than ls7

[Timpo]

youre comparing a supercharged iron block engine, with an all aluminum n/a engine.

how much does all aluminum vr38det weight? probably closer to hellcat than ls7

The VR38DETT weighs 608 lbs, 150 lbs heavier than LS7 but 200 lbs lighter than Hellcat HEMI engine.

[Mancini]

The VR38DETT weighs 608 lbs, 150 lbs heavier than LS7 but 200 lbs lighter than Hellcat HEMI engine.

It's significantly heavier than an engine that is 60% bigger? This is technology?

LSx for the win.

[vitaminG]

Going by hp/lb of engine weight

Ls7 1.12 lb/hp
Hellcat 0.88 lb/hp
Vr38 0.8-1.0 lb/hp
Nissan DIG-T-R 4.54 hp/lb

https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2014/01/ZEOD_Engine_Large_06-1500.jpg

[thumper]

http://www.hellcat.org/attachments/img_4543-png.129265/

[roastpuff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdrohVsUEo

Current expected Hellcat Demon HP figures, from Allpar:

Setting 1 : 757 hp
Setting 2 : 815 hp
Setting 3 : Above 900

[320icar]

OVER 900?!?!?!?!?!

http://pixelswap.fr/files/2015-02/over-9000-bolt-f.gif

[Timpo]

It's significantly heavier than an engine that is 60% bigger? This is technology?

LSx for the win.

I was talking about LS7, not LSX

LSX has cast iron block, but has 13.1 compression and 776hp

LSX 454R Crate Engine - Race Engine | Chevrolet (http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/crate-engines/lsx-454-r.html)

[thumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcdrohVsUEo

Current expected Hellcat Demon HP figures, from Allpar:

Setting 1 : 757 hp
Setting 2 : 815 hp
Setting 3 : Above 900

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-dodge-demon-will-use-air-conditioning-to-make-more-angry-american-horses/

Dodge has released a video titled ‘No Ice’, along with information about the car’s “liquid-to-air charge air cooler chiller system”. When the car is punched into drag mode, it diverts the interior air conditioning system to a charge cooler, dramatically reducing the temperature of the intake air.

[Manic!]

Rumors now have it with over 1000 HP on track mode with race fuel!!

gizmodo-default (http://jalopnik.com/crazy-rumors-say-the-2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-ha-1794158315)

[Berzerker]

Live stream for reveal is on now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S904YbiCebs

Berz out.

[Berzerker]

So
800+hp
2.3 0-60mph
5.1 0-100mph
9.65@140mph

New record for all 3 numbers on a production car.

Not bad!! They say it's "banned from tracks" but I wonder what the "supercar" rule will be as it is an OEM Factory production vehicle. You need a 10 point roll cage to run 9.99 or faster?

Berz out.

[thumper]

https://youtu.be/3vD6A6NxySQ

[hud 91gt]

BRB while I re-install factory A/C to cool intercooler.

I always thought these cars were silly, but <10 second 1/4 mile!?!?! Thats insane!

[thumper]

BRB while I re-install factory A/C to cool intercooler.

I always thought these cars were silly, but <10 second 1/4 mile!?!?! Thats insane!

i wonder if there is anything else aftermarket tuners can do with this...

[twitchyzero]

3000 units for US, 300 for Canada
wonder about the going rate

optional Demon's crate

https://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/img/S5u7ZI-yxfwtUarI3m9ExC3_fI8=/fit-in/970x0/2017/03/14/51b06cee-abb8-4842-991f-70e812401ce2/dodge-demon-crate-tools-1.jpg

[Berzerker]

Sweet. Skinnies and all the stuff to swap em at the track.

With all the suspension mods and the trans brake, I wonder how long until someone straps a big turbo on instead of the supercharger and really pushes this thing?

The 9.65 is the bare bones, no seats, no stereo, limited fuel in tank version. That is literally the fastest that car will go. As soon as you start adding options (weight) that number will get slower.
A 10 point cage, which is required for the sub 10 second et, would add around 100-150lbs. Further reducing your ET.
I would bet if you added seats, stereo, cage you would be hard pressed to run a 9.

Edit:

For one, in street trim running on pump gas and full interior, the horsepower and torque drops from 840 hp to 808 hp, torque from 770 lb-ft to 717 lb-ft.

The 9 second run is made on 100 octane and a special ECU you get by purchasing a separately available Demon Crate (shown above) and removing these parts:

58 pounds: Removed front passenger seat and belt
55 pounds: Removed rear seat, restraints and floor mats
24 pounds: Removed 16 audio speakers, amplifier and associated wiring
20 pounds: Removed trunk deck cover trim, carpeting, spare tire cover
19 pounds: Used smaller, hollow sway bars
18 pounds: Removed mastic, body deadeners, insulators and foam
16 pounds: Used lightweight all-aluminum four-piston brake caliper and smaller, 360-mm two-piece rotor 16 pounds: Switched to lightweight wheels and open-end lug nuts
4 pounds: Switched to manual tilt/telescope steering column
2 pounds: Removed park sensors and module

You can purchase the interior bits for $1 dollar each

Berz out.

[thumper]

a bit more about the NHRA ban, which was basically said in the comments above:

gizmodo-default (http://jalopnik.com/heres-why-the-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-is-banned-by-t-1794240969)

Here’s the thing, though—it’s not really banned by the NHRA, as much as Dodge seems to like saying that, it’s just that in its stock form it’s fast enough that it’s required to have a competition license and extra safety equipment (a roll cage) that the car doesn’t normally come with.

[SumAznGuy]

58 pounds: Removed front passenger seat and belt
55 pounds: Removed rear seat, restraints and floor mats
24 pounds: Removed 16 audio speakers, amplifier and associated wiring
20 pounds: Removed trunk deck cover trim, carpeting, spare tire cover
19 pounds: Used smaller, hollow sway bars
18 pounds: Removed mastic, body deadeners, insulators and foam
16 pounds: Used lightweight all-aluminum four-piston brake caliper and smaller, 360-mm two-piece rotor 16 pounds: Switched to lightweight wheels and open-end lug nuts
4 pounds: Switched to manual tilt/telescope steering column
2 pounds: Removed park sensors and module

You can purchase the interior bits for $1 dollar each

Berz out.

do you know if they swapped the driver seat for a lighter race seat?

[Berzerker]

It's probably a light weight bucket.

Berz out.

[SumAznGuy]

The 9 second run is made on 100 octane and a special ECU you get by purchasing a separately available Demon Crate (shown above) and removing these parts:

Just occurred to me. They probably could have done a better pass, but once they did the first 9 second pass, the track wouldn't let them go without the cage.

1.364 60 fter so it is possible the car could have been faster than a 9.65 1/4 mile time.

[thumper]

a little more from the roadkill crew:

Stop Saying The 2018 Dodge Demon Is Banned From The Dragstrip - Roadkill (http://www.roadkill.com/stop-saying-the-2018-dodge-demon-is-banned-from-the-dragstrip/)

Stop Saying The 2018 Dodge Demon Is Banned From The Dragstrip
Posted April 13, 2017 - Text: Elana Scherr — Photos: Dodge FCA, Elana Scherr 0 Comments
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On April 11th, Dodge dropped an 840hp bomb in the shape of a wide-fendered Dodge Challenger, the long awaited Dodge Demon. The car is amazing, it’s super fast, it lifts the tires and it’s street legal. All of that is great, but what has been dominating the news feeds is Dodge’s claim that the quick car is banned from NHRA.

“Why build a car you can’t race?” cried the internet.



Well, let’s unpack the marketing from the facts.

“It’s not the make that is banned,” says Scott Smith of the National Hot Rod Association (NHRA). “You can bring a Dodge Demon to an NHRA track, but if you run under that 10-second barrier, they’re going to require that you meet the safety standards.”

Let’s repeat that. The Dodge Demon is NOT “banned” from dragstrips. It just has to follow the same rules that any other 9-second car needs to follow. That means that if you want to make multiple runs or run in competition with a Demon in race tune, you’re going to need to put a cage in it—not a harness bar, not a roll bar, but a full ‘cage, which includes door bars. This would make the car less than comfortable as a street driver, but not impossible. If you don’t want to do that, you can still run 9s at the dragstrip, you’ll just have to go to a new dragstrip whenever the old one figures out your game and kicks you off track.



If you just want to take your Demon out to a test-n-tune night, leave it on pump gas and you’ll be likely to run 10s all evening unless your track is very sticky and you are exceptionally good. On 91 octane the Demon runs 9.96, which is in optimal conditions with a Dodge engineer or Top Fuel driver testing it. In average conditions on an average track, we’d put our money on 10.10 all day. No bar required for 10.10s.

“You can bring the car to any NHRA member track and go out, it’s only once you hit below that 10-second number that they’d talk to you about the ‘cage,” Smith explained. “You’d also need fire clothing (jacket and pants) and a Level 6 competition license at that point.”



Getting a comp license isn’t a big deal, it’s just some paperwork, $150 and the witness signature of an already licensed driver on a series of launches and half passes to prove you aren’t a complete numbskull at speed.

“Banned” is good bragging, but it’s not really true, so if you’re one of the lucky folks who will be able to afford the Demon, go ahead and buy one. You’ll be able to race it.

and someone asked about the driver's seat... it does not appear to be a race bucket. i'm guessing it's because of the airbag:

http://www.roadkill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0652018-Dodge-Demon-Challenger-Hellcat-.jpg

[thumper]

some cool little easter egg stuff in this video:

https://youtu.be/1_Mk1uFYqSc

[originalhypa]

Only 300 models being released to Canada. Yet we have 440 Dodge dealers here.

lol, Nitto tires.....

:awwyeah:

[Timpo]

The title says Hellcat Demon, but seems like Hellcat and Demon are actually different grade.

Just like Camaro ZL1 and Z28, Corvette Z06 and ZR-1, Mustang BOSS 302 and GT500, etc..

[Timpo]

I guess Chrysler is good at building fast accelerating cars.

Back in the day Dodge Viper was quite impressive...and now this.

[thumper]

The title says Hellcat Demon, but seems like Hellcat and Demon are actually different grade.

Just like Camaro ZL1 and Z28, Corvette Z06 and ZR-1, Mustang BOSS 302 and GT500, etc..

read the date and what was written in the posted article.

when news first came out about the car it was initially called the hellcat demon. it was later changed to just demon.

[dark0821]

with only 300 being released here... I wonder how many will be left after 5 years... I can imagine this will get wrapped around trees/poles alot more... I mean.... damp conditions, vancouver weather... yea.... will be hard to be responsible with that thing

[thumper]

i drove by coquitlam chrysler after hours yesterday and there are a lot of challengers on that lot. maybe you could give them a shout and see what they have to say?

New & Used Cars for Sale in Coquitlam | Coquitlam Chrysler (http://www.coquitlamchryslerdodge.com/)

[thumper]

i'm being punished for not staying awake in physics class in high school... :

https://youtu.be/93MuL4lRrO8

[thumper]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17904080_1326659774091583_4932351297716386814_n.jp g?oh=c34624a42756474d2b3c336518cbb686&oe=5996A484

[Timpo]

Liberty Walk Challenger:fuckyea:
https://streetstandard.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Liberty-Walk-Challenger-RT-SRT8-Body-Kit-from-Street-Standard.jpg
http://www.motoringexposure.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Libery-Walk-LB-Works-Challenger.jpg
http://ec.lb-performance.com/photo/page/1454750884.jpg
http://libertywalk.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/slider29/1457168109.jpeg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/91/4b/e0/914be0e6a346660bfb3e214f9163c956.jpg
http://drifting.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LB%E2%98%85WORKS-challenger-japan-custom-httpwww.libertywalk-usa.com-libertywalk-lbperformance-lbworks-lam.jpg
http://www.dubmagazine.com/home/media/k2/galleries/8972/LB__0002_IJB_4264%20copy.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8591/16060377003_d804aa10db_b.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5eFkqKotQWU/VcSt4nKBicI/AAAAAAAAQtg/4FWTYsS_YOA/s1600/Greenchallenger006.jpg
http://speedhunters-wp-production.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/30170007/Wekfest-SJ-15-9-copy-1200x800.jpg

[Badhobz]

Liberty walk ruins everything by adding these cheapie looking fender flares to every single one of their body kits. Yeah we get it..... Because race car but it looks like a 5 dollar botch job done by east Hastings crack heads.

[thumper]

New York Governor Rolls Up To Talk 'Eco-Friendly Cars' In The Dodge Demon

http://jalopnik.com/new-york-governor-rolls-up-to-talk-eco-friendly-cars-in-1794358279?rev=1492295197764&utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

https://twitter.com/NYAutoShow/status/853237091391688704

:fuckyea:

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asshats...

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20170424/OEM06/304249979/keep-the-dodge-demon-off-our-roads


Keep the Dodge Demon off our roads

Editor's note: This editorial has been updated to make clear the Demon has been banned from regulated drag strips as-is from the factory upon delivery.

The 840-hp Dodge Challenger SRT Demon from Fiat Chrysler is so inherently dangerous to the common safety of motorists that its registration as a road-worthy automobile should be banned.

We don't reach this conclusion lightly. There are more powerful, and even faster, vehicles available from other automakers that are rightly street legal.

But just as Tesla is wrong to use consumers and the roadways to beta-test its autonomous driving technologies, Dodge is wrong to offer a purpose-built drag racer as a road-legal automobile.

From its barely legal slick tires to its monstrous acceleration, the Challenger Demon introduced in New York this month is the result of a sequence of misguided corporate choices that places bragging rights ahead of public safety.

Laudably, the entire industry has made great strides toward improved vehicle safety in recent years, even as it dials up performance capabilities. But with the Demon, Dodge spits on that goal and irresponsibly moves in the opposite direction, knowingly placing motorists in danger in the process.

Oddly enough, for a vehicle designed to be a purpose-built drag racer, the Demon -- as delivered from the factory -- has already been banned from regulated drag strips by that sport's sanctioning body, the National Hot Rod Association, allegedly for being "too fast."

The Demon may comply sufficiently with the letter of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards to legally be registered for on-road use, but in its current form it certainly doesn't fulfill the spirit of those standards.

To borrow a phrase from Ralph Nader, the Demon remains unsafe at any speed.

[Timpo]

^ lol why would they ban it?
It already passed all the safety regulations.

They're trying to ban it just because it's a street legal race car?

Ducati 1299 Superleggera or Honda RC213VS are both considered as street legal race bikes and nobody is trying to ban them.

[Mancini]

LibertyScrapeTheGroundAndRubFendersRuined

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Well well well...

Dodge Is Making Customers Promise Not to Misuse the Challenger SRT Demon - The Drive (http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/11778/dodge-is-making-customers-promise-not-to-misuse-the-challenger-srt-demon)

Demon buyers must sign a document saying they won't drive it in the cold, in the rain, or even on the highway...lol makes the car kinda useless if you ask me.:rukidding:

[nsx042003]

i like this part though:
"Finally, you have to sign your understanding that if you’re buying the car for at or below MSRP, your Demon will be high-priority on the production line."

Kudos to FCA!!

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Dodge Reveals Canadian Pricing of 840 hp Challenger Demon (http://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatures/20170718/dodge-reveals-the-msrp-of-840-hp/)

Dodge Reveals the MSRP of 840 hp Challenger Demon
By Evan Williams July 18, 2017 Share this article:

Dodge Challenger SRT Demon
After months of waiting and teasing, Dodge has finally announced the price for the 300 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon models that are coming to Canada.

The 6.2L V8 with 808 hp and 717 lb-ft of torque will start with an MSRP of $109,995. That gets you a two-speaker stereo and a driver's floor mat. There is no passenger seat, no sound insulation, and no trunk carpet. That's not a lot of luxury, but the performance bits make up for it. There's the A/C powered chiller to bring down intake temperatures, the largest hood scoop of any production car, lightweight brakes, thicker driveshaft, drag suspension, 315 wide Nitto drag radials, and launch control. Oh yeah, and it'll run nine-second quarter mile times.

It's always the options list that gets you. Want a passenger seat? That'll cost you. Trunk carpet? That'll set you back too. Oh, and you want the personalised Demon crate that gives you the full 840 hp, plus a jack, skinny front wheels, and a Snap-on cordless impact wrench? That's going to cost you a whole dollar.


There are some real option packages though. You can add a comfort group that puts the 18 speaker stereo back in along with Alcantara seat coverings over heated and ventilated front seats. The stereo and the seats are available in separate packages, and a special car cover and battery charger are also available.

The Dodge Challenger SRT Demon should arrive at dealers later this year. But if you don't have your order in already, you might be too late.

[Manic!]

Already sold out. One of the dealers I was talking to the one that did not take a deposit told me they are not getting one. Most are going to dealers in Ontario and Quebec.