[supafamous]

Vancouver set to lose more gas stations amid boom in real estate - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/vancouver-set-to-lose-more-gas-stations-amid-boom-in-real-estate/article33790366/)

Didn't see this mentioned in the past couple weeks but as Chevron is one of the few (only?) suppliers of 94 octane gas this is going to make it a bit more of a pain for some of us to gas up (I do the odd tank but run on 91 normally).

It's mostly the downtown and West side of Vancouver that's getting sold but eventually it's gonna hit East Van and Burnaby.

[MrPhreak]

No big deal, I only use Shell Premium... it is the only premium fuel with no Ethanol. Shell 91 > Chevron 94 any day of the week.


Also, what cars are you running 94 in? All the ones in your sig should be using regular, should they not?

[Euro7r]

The station I go to the most is shutting down. Doesn't help when my car is tuned on 94 gas...Maybe it's a sign I get a lower octane vehicle =/

[dn53]

No big deal, I only use Shell Premium... it is the only premium fuel with no Ethanol. Shell 91 > Chevron 94 any day of the week.


Also, what cars are you running 94 in? All the ones in your sig should be using regular, should they not?

If I'm not mistaken chevron 94 has no ethanol also..

I just pump Esso 91 now for the points

[fliptuner]

Costco 91 has no ethanol

[bcuzracecarz]

I prefer shell to Chev usually, becuase of quality and airmiles. Esso... I clean their tanks, and it's not good folks lol

[flagella]

Have you cleaned tanks from other brands though?

[320icar]

No big deal, I only use Shell Premium... it is the only premium fuel with no Ethanol. Shell 91 > Chevron 94 any day of the week.


Also, what cars are you running 94 in? All the ones in your sig should be using regular, should they not?


Lol, my car backfires and spits on shitty shell gas. Chevron all the way

[bcuzracecarz]

Have you cleaned tanks from other brands though?

Yup, and all over Canada. I've been in Shell, Co-op, Petro Canada, Esso, UFA; a lot of it is surprisingly the same shit just branded differently (co-op/Costco fill up their tanks through imperial). Esso I find is all mixed and disgusting. Blended diesel and gas, HFO in diesel, I've seen them unload 50k litres of reg into the premium tank. All to save a buck. Only a few companies are truely separate from the others, most just share

[fliptuner]

Is it cleaner if they go through a lot of fuel?

[wingies]

What do you put into your m3?

[MrPhreak]

Lol, my car backfires and spits on shitty shell gas. Chevron all the way

I've been running Shell forever, never had any issues like that. The main thing I've noticed is I get better mileage with Shell, it just seems to feel better on when I am bouncing it off the redline on Shell VS other grades.

[320icar]

Yeah I run it on the stage 3 91 or 93 octane maps. Chevron is what I've run in the car from new. A few times though with the fuel light on ive had to gas up. Shell v-power made my car backfire and pop, as did esso. Each time I had to go back to the stock tune just in case

[Traum]

To me, it isn't just a matter of Vancouver losing a few Chevron stations, it is more of Vancouver losing another few gas stations.

Increasingly, I find that the line ups are appearing more frequently / getting longer during more hours. While this is certainly a function of the city's population going up, I can't shake the impression that we are also having fewer gas stations serving the public.

I really don't want to wait until it is 10 o'clock before I can fill up the car without standing in line idling...

[Badhobz]

Shell regular is pretty garbage but their premium with nitro is good stuff.

[Timpo]

No big deal, I only use Shell Premium... it is the only premium fuel with no Ethanol. Shell 91 > Chevron 94 any day of the week.


Also, what cars are you running 94 in? All the ones in your sig should be using regular, should they not?

Mazda Miata requires premium gas.

I know it's surprising since Miatas are perceived as entry level sportscar.

[Timpo]

Vancouver set to lose more gas stations amid boom in real estate - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/vancouver-set-to-lose-more-gas-stations-amid-boom-in-real-estate/article33790366/)

Didn't see this mentioned in the past couple weeks but as Chevron is one of the few (only?) suppliers of 94 octane gas this is going to make it a bit more of a pain for some of us to gas up (I do the odd tank but run on 91 normally).

It's mostly the downtown and West side of Vancouver that's getting sold but eventually it's gonna hit East Van and Burnaby.
Why do you need to go out of your way to get 94 octane.

As far as I know, no car needs 94 octane. (unless it's highly tuned race car of course)

McLaren P1, Bugatti Chiron, Pagani Huayra, Ford GT, Acura NSX, Lexus LFA, Nissan GT-R, Porsche 918, they require only 91 octane.

[XplicitLuder]

As far as I know.

you dont know shit timpo

:pokerface:

[MrPhreak]

To me, it isn't just a matter of Vancouver losing a few Chevron stations, it is more of Vancouver losing another few gas stations.

Increasingly, I find that the line ups are appearing more frequently / getting longer during more hours. While this is certainly a function of the city's population going up, I can't shake the impression that we are also having fewer gas stations serving the public.

I really don't want to wait until it is 10 o'clock before I can fill up the car without standing in line idling...

Don't worry... Gregor and his financial backers over at "Tides Canada" plans to have us all on bikes by 2020

[twitchyzero]

the bus yard on oak is worth almost half a billion dollars?!

horey shet

no wonder the viaducts are going to be dismantled.

[CorneringArtist]

Yup, and all over Canada. I've been in Shell, Co-op, Petro Canada, Esso, UFA; a lot of it is surprisingly the same shit just branded differently (co-op/Costco fill up their tanks through imperial). Esso I find is all mixed and disgusting. Blended diesel and gas, HFO in diesel, I've seen them unload 50k litres of reg into the premium tank. All to save a buck. Only a few companies are truely separate from the others, most just share

Esso 91 seems to be the only gas that lights up the CEL while I drive on the highway at constant load, but clears when I accelerate a bit hard leaving a stoplight. Costco, Chevron, and Shell don't trip it at all.

[bcuzracecarz]

Is it cleaner if they go through a lot of fuel?

It all goes through the same filters, if anything a tank that goes through a lot of fuel will be dirtier because its had so many trucks unloading fuel into it. Just did a tank for ESSO that looked like an actual beach on the inside it had so much sand in it

What do you put into your m3?

Try to stick with Shell 91 as much as I can, Chevron if no shell around, rarely am I in a spot where I can't find one of those 2 since I try to not drive with less than a 1/4 tank anyways

[supafamous]

Why do you need to go out of your way to get 94 octane.

As far as I know, no car needs 94 octane. (unless it's highly tuned race car of course)

McLaren P1, Bugatti Chiron, Pagani Huayra, Ford GT, Acura NSX, Lexus LFA, Nissan GT-R, Porsche 918, they require only 91 octane.

I use 91 on both my cars but do the odd tank of 94 every few months if I'm at a Chevron. It's NBD to me - more raising it for those who have cars tuned for 93+.

[vantrip]

It all goes through the same filters, if anything a tank that goes through a lot of fuel will be dirtier because its had so many trucks unloading fuel into it. Just did a tank for ESSO that looked like an actual beach on the inside it had so much sand in it

Do you have any pic?

[bcuzracecarz]

Camera + gas fumes = boom

[vantrip]

Camera + gas fumes = boom

makes sense, google to the rescue

[wingies]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrMjI-oyZXjHS3oEQJrpF6k0uzGfcJLRnvtMw5CZYipNNed-T9qw

[Manic!]

It does not matter whats at the bottom of a tank because the pump is set so when there is about 1000 liters left the gas will be below the pump and it will stop pumping. Also every gas dispenser has fuel filters like the ones you have in your car for oil to make sure the gas that goes in your car is clean. Having had a gas station for 26 plus years and 1000's of gas deliveries we have only had one gas mix up where the driver accidentally put premium in the regular tank. We knew about it the next morning when our monitoring system showed we where low on premium but the invoice showed we had it delivered and we had more regular than we ordered.

94 is a waste of money. If your car says use premium use 91.

[Traum]

It all goes through the same filters, if anything a tank that goes through a lot of fuel will be dirtier because its had so many trucks unloading fuel into it. Just did a tank for ESSO that looked like an actual beach on the inside it had so much sand in it
So how often do gas station tanks get cleaned? Once a quarter? Once every 6 months? Once a year? Once in a blue moon?

[Manic!]

So how often do gas station tanks get cleaned? Once a quarter? Once every 6 months? Once a year? Once in a blue moon?

I have never heard of tanks getting cleaned. Family has been selling gas for 26 years and we also know many gas station owners.

[mr_chin]

94 is a waste of money. If your car says use premium use 91.

Doesn't ethanol wear your engine out faster?

The only ethanol-free gas I know of is Chevron 94 octane.

[godwin]

Only if you have a very old car ie 30+ years old. designed when ethanol in fuel was uncommon and are still using all OE plastic fuel lines.. even then it just wear faster, doesn't mean it melt right away.

it is just sign of the times.. with electrification coming..Bolt, Model 3, etc etc for most people fueling at a station would be in the past. Did we mourn when Blockbuster, Rogers etc got replaced with Netflix? or software aisles at Future Shop got replaced with Apple app store?

It takes a decade or so for the station to be remediated properly for the next purpose.. so it is a good time to start now.

Doesn't ethanol wear your engine out faster?
.

[imp>dom]

so Shell 91 is next up under Chevron 94?

[Manic!]

so Shell 91 is next up under Chevron 94?

Next up for what?

[bcuzracecarz]

So how often do gas station tanks get cleaned? Once a quarter? Once every 6 months? Once a year? Once in a blue moon?

Depends on company and what the inspection report states, usually it's around 10 years for smaller tanks (~8 feet in diameter), can go up to 30 years for larger ones (~120 foot diameter). That's for the actual terminals, individual gas stations have different standards.

And yes that's true, the gas stations do have filters and no the suction isn't sitting on the bottom of the tank, but when you fill a tank the settlement still gets disturbed. I'd rather drink a clean glass of water than drink out of a muddy puddle with a life straw. Yes both are safe, but I'll take the piece of mind anyday

[imp>dom]

Next up for what?

For quality?

[Shorn]

For quality?

higher octane isn't "better" gas, look up the definition of what it actually means.

you only NEED 94 if your car is specifically tuned for it.

if you're not tuned, put in what your vehicle manufacturer tells you to put in and you'll be fine. putting 94 in a honda civic isn't gonna make it faster or last longer.

[Manic!]

And yes that's true, the gas stations do have filters and no the suction isn't sitting on the bottom of the tank, but when you fill a tank the settlement still gets disturbed. I'd rather drink a clean glass of water than drink out of a muddy puddle with a life straw. Yes both are safe, but I'll take the piece of mind anyday

Then it settles. You will not get sand or any other contaminants in your tank.

[Manic!]

For quality?

It's all pretty much the same. No one gas is really superior.

[bcrdukes]

If anybody is curious, a few RS members found interesting results between the different grades of fuels and brands.

It's an older thread, about 3 or 4 years old, but it's worth a read as it rebukes Manic's posts in this thread. As always, take this thread and the linked thread with a grain of salt.
https://www.revscene.net/forums/681545-crappy-canadien-fuel.html

Disclaimer: I am not calling Manic a liar or disagreeing with what he posted. Just wanted to offer a different opinion and take on the topic for others to read. Again, it is an old thread, and somewhat related.

[Cillu]

I usually fill with Shell 91, but for my winter beater I've been going to the gas bar at Superstore instead and noticed that their 91 states that they have no ethanol. Anyone know where they source their gas from?

[twitchyzero]

my Honda drinks that Kirkland Signature bulk fuel...probably just marketing

http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1120619&stc=1&d=1416517933
https://www.costco.com/wcsstore/CostcoUSBCCatalogAssetStore/feature-pages/17w0509-gasoline-kirkland-signature-01.jpg

[hk20000]

It does not matter whats at the bottom of a tank because the pump is set so when there is about 1000 liters left the gas will be below the pump and it will stop pumping. Also every gas dispenser has fuel filters like the ones you have in your car for oil to make sure the gas that goes in your car is clean. Having had a gas station for 26 plus years and 1000's of gas deliveries we have only had one gas mix up where the driver accidentally put premium in the regular tank. We knew about it the next morning when our monitoring system showed we where low on premium but the invoice showed we had it delivered and we had more regular than we ordered.

94 is a waste of money. If your car says use premium use 91.
Unless you got yourself some JDM rides which were tuned aggressive as all hell.... running 91 vs 94 on any gen Impreza STI RHD and you can hear it knock itself to death. :yuno:

[Manic!]

Unless you got yourself some JDM rides which were tuned aggressive as all hell.... running 91 vs 94 on any gen Impreza STI RHD and you can hear it knock itself to death. :yuno:

Gas in North America is designed for cars sold in North America. You can't expect them to make as for cars not originally sold here. 94 is pretty much only available in B.C. Most of Canada only has 91.

[Port Man]

What about the GTR guys who made more power on the dyno 91 or 92 Chevron US vs 94 Chevron in Canada? Why do they get better fuel in states?

[underscore]

I got better mileage in my Prelude with Esso than with anything else, that may have been a fluke or just something to do with the local stations though. Shell I'll still never trust after that fiasco 20 years ago so Chevron is a must for my Celica GTFour.

So how often do gas station tanks get cleaned? Once a quarter? Once every 6 months? Once a year? Once in a blue moon?

How often do you clean the tank in your car?

[Digitalis]

Cuz they dont measure RON octane on the same scale you can thank imperial vs metric for that.
What about the GTR guys who made more power on the dyno 91 or 92 Chevron US vs 94 Chevron in Canada? Why do they get better fuel in states?

[Traum]

Gas in North America is designed for cars sold in North America. You can't expect them to make as for cars not originally sold here. 94 is pretty much only available in B.C. Most of Canada only has 91.
That has certainly not been my experience. When I was in Calgary for vacation last summer, every Petro Canada that I went to carried Ultra 94. Also in Ontario, from KW all the way through Toronto, many Sunoco and Chevron stations offer 94 octane gas as well. But I don't think the Petro Canadas in Montreal carry Ultra 94. At least, I haven't come across one.

So at least in Vancouver, Calgary, and GTA + a little beyond, 94 octane gas is quite readily available.

[604STIG]

94 Octane from Chevron for the bike because no ethanol.