[SkinnyPupp]

Liberals to announce marijuana will be legal by July 1, 2018 - Politics - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-legal-marijuana-pot-1.4041902)

:alonehappy:

[XplicitLuder]

when you want the votes, you go for the 420ers :alonehappy:

[SkinnyPupp]

lol that might by one of the most pessimistic cynical posts I have ever seen on this forum, and that's a lot coming from me EleGiggle

[N.V.M.]

if you can't beat 'em, tax that shit.

[Infiniti]

Does this mean that Liquor stores are gonna become dispensaries as well now? Or, will the provinces establish provincially regulated dispensaries that are like liquor stores, only they sell weed?

[68style]

I hope they're separate, I don't want to have to smell that shit every time I walk into a liquor store lol

[Hondaracer]

All the interviews I've heard have said they want to keep them seperate.

BS liberal pandering/timing to get re-elected. Talking like it was going to be legalized "soon" when they got elected, then said details would come down spring 2017, now pushing back the timeline to 2018 and potentially 2019 until it's actually realized? Fuck off

[68style]

^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want? :badpokerface:

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...

[Sid Vicious]

^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want? :badpokerface:

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...

no offense, but this is absolutely retarded logic. it's not an even issue of the substance itself, but rather one of personal freedom. do you have sovereignty to your own body?

why do you have to be a stoner to see the benefit of increased tax revenue and reduced crime? and medical treatment for those who require it?

[SkinnyPupp]

^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want? :badpokerface:

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...
Agree with the first part but there's much more to it than just "stoners wanting to get high". There's a reason this was such an important issue in the election, which Vicious's reply above noted. It was one of my top issues in this election, and I haven't touched weed in probably 15+ years.

[MarkyMark]

I don't smoke but I'm all for the increased tax revenue it generates.

[underscore]

I just hope everyone will shut up about it once it's legal.

[Hondaracer]

^ Not sure I inderstand your argument... if it gets done, it gets done. It becomes "liberal pandering" just because you don't like the timing of it? Would the Conservative party have ever done this? What exactly do you want? :badpokerface:

Are there really enough voting stoners in Canada to make it a method for re-election? I highly doubt that... if anything there's more anti-pot using type people in Canada than pro...

They are obviously going to use it as leverage once the election rolls around as this genius move that brought in millions in tax dollars just prior to the election.

Honestly this doesn't effect myself or anyone I know who smokes. We've all been smoking in public and coming and going as freely as we have wanted for the last 10+ years. The legality of it has never effected anything. The only people who it effects are bozos like Marc and Jody emery who couldn't be more blatantly ignorant about their stance and attitude. Don't want to get arrested? Don't give police forces a middle finger on TV/in public in your actions. No one with half a brain can support their misguided campaign on legalization.

I'm just sick of government promises which are huge parts of getting them elected being pushed back so far they become issues for the NEXT election.

[Manic!]

Because of how hard it is to get a grow license I can see a shortage of weed when it is legalized. I can also see criminals still being involved. People growing 4 plants at home and then selling the weed instead of smoking it.

[6o4__boi]

never actually tried

how hard is it to grow a plant or two at home?

[murd0c]

its more work then you think

[Hondaracer]

Because of how hard it is to get a grow license I can see a shortage of weed when it is legalized. I can also see criminals still being involved. People growing 4 plants at home and then selling the weed instead of smoking it.

There was a period in early 2000's where a tonne of people who had illegal grows got into legal licenses and still have them to this day. I'm not sure if supply will be a problem, especially with the amount of commercial operations run by public companies popping up in the last few years.

the question is, will demand really increase that substantially once it's legalized? IE. People who did not smoke before are now picking it up because it's legal? i'm not so sure.

[quasi]

Right now many who have personal use grow licenses actually farm the growing of their weed out to "legit" grow houses many of them owned and ran by some not so legit people. The license holders are paid a fee "under the table of course" and the weed is then sold out the back door on the street for street value. They can sit in plain site growing all day long.

The laws will affect those people which is a good thing IMO, the value of there product will go down.

[Great68]

never actually tried

how hard is it to grow a plant or two at home?

If you have experience or aptitude with gardening, it's not much harder than growing tomato & peppers.

[RRxtar]

im actually a little surprised. my friends and i were just discussing this the other day and we were sure the liberals were going to use it as a campaign promise during the next election hoping everyone would forget they broke the campaign promise this election.

the good news by legalizing it this early, is all the short attention span millennials will have forgotten about this huge favor from the liberals by the time the next election rolls around, and they wont have "legalize weed" to use as a single issue votor reason.

[BIC_BAWS]

the question is, will demand really increase that substantially once it's legalized? IE. People who did not smoke before are now picking it up because it's legal? i'm not so sure.

I doubt it. Like many other people said, only differences is that you'll be getting taxed on it, which would suck for those who enjoy weed. Back around the SOPA/PIPA controversy, I did a paper on marijuana legalization. Some of the various advantages to legalization included: reduction of policing and tax revenue. At the time, it was said that BC produces/consumes about 5x of how much agriculture we produce (it was awhile ago, if I can find the source, I will update). An argument I made, was that if BC taxed on this market, it could help fund numerous other in-need causes around the province.

Currently, Vancouver is known as the Amsterdam of Canada. Legal or not, people are consuming it. The only big benefit I would be able to see for regular users would be the guarantee of good quality, and not laced with other substances.

I actually suspect that the demand won't have a significant change. It is likely that during the short-term, the demand could increase. We could predict that because it is legal, more people would be willing to try it. However, there are still cultural or social stigmas in some areas, and it is also likely that the short term fluctuation would probably plateau thus returning to current. I also don't see criminal behaviour decreasing; people don't like to get taxed.

[DragonChi]

I think demand will hover around 10-15% of the population. Same percentage of Canada that smokes cigarettes.

Actually the percentage in Nertherlands, where it is legal is 8%.

Still no where near as much as alcohol consumption.

[SkinnyPupp]

I doubt it. Like many other people said, only differences is that you'll be getting taxed on it

Things must have really changed since the time I last smoked it then. Because back then I'd have to cruise around looking for some dealer that sells weed or knows someone who does. It was a really shitty way to do it, having to deal with shitty people.

I hear now you can get a phony prescription practically instantly, but even that is more of a hassle than being able to walk in, show ID, buy something, and walk out, like you would with any other product.

Also legalization instantly lifts a stigma that has been attached to it (but weakening) since the 40's. My own mom is posting pro-cannabis shit on facebook and believe me, she was very much against it when I was in high school LUL

[BIC_BAWS]

Things must have really changed since the time I last smoked it then. Because back then I'd have to cruise around looking for some dealer that sells weed or knows someone who does. It was a really shitty way to do it, having to deal with shitty people.


Yeah that sounds about 3-5 years ago. That was about when I first tried it, and that's what you'd have to do. Only recently found out about it, but now you can walk into some stores, and as long as you're 19+ you're free to purchase like any other product.

Similarly, the beginning of vape shops before regulation.


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[twitchyzero]

All the interviews I've heard have said they want to keep them seperate.

BS liberal pandering/timing to get re-elected. Talking like it was going to be legalized "soon" when they got elected, then said details would come down spring 2017, now pushing back the timeline to 2018 and potentially 2019 until it's actually realized? Fuck off

for something controversial and big I was not expecting changes overnight...I think a few years to assess, consult, and amend the law seems fairly reasonable

[68style]

Over 80% of the pot grown in BC is exported to the USA... so until the USA wholly legalizes weed (not in our lifetimes I don't think?) it will not change the criminal nature of its production locally or the resultant gang issues that surround it.

[Mr.Money]

Pretty sure USA doesn't give a shit too much about BC bud when Washington has it legal now,compared to early 90's when that's when news would always be talking about it...you think they would hire the professional growers as a career maker by now vs relaying on bc bud being illegally imported


I think intake use of pot is gonna spike in the start and go back to normal...There is gonna be people trying just to experiment in the start,then say its not for them.

The Tax?..Hopefully just the same as cigarettes,The question is there gonna be 20 Joint pre-rolled packs from the government or it easier for them just to sell to us by the grams without any fancy marketing packs?.


i also think when it does turn legal,its gonna be a Game changer for Tourism,there's a lot of fucking beautifully scenery here we're so use to and take for granted...

[DGN23]

Maybe more people wont be buying it because it's legal now but I think more people will be inclined to buy through the new companies selling the product. They have discussed how the price will be lower to compete with the existing illegal market, and in the end would you rather buy your beer from the guy who makes it with a home brew kit in his basement or from someone like Sleeman, Molson, or Granville island brewing? Sure your buddy has been growing plants for years but he doesn't have millions in funding for R&D or a team of people who have made growing and studying plants their career. People will recognize that higher quality and consistency and go mainstream.

[Hondaracer]

Already at this time 90% of the people I know get the majority of their weed from dispenceries.

A lot of the dispenceries now only check ID for age their not even looking for the "perwcriptipn" etc

[underscore]

Right now many who have personal use grow licenses actually farm the growing of their weed out to "legit" grow houses many of them owned and ran by some not so legit people. The license holders are paid a fee "under the table of course" and the weed is then sold out the back door on the street for street value. They can sit in plain site growing all day long.

The laws will affect those people which is a good thing IMO, the value of there product will go down.

When I looked into it a couple years back, almost all the legal grows were being caught growing a lot more than they were permitted to grow. The RCMP were also wasting a bunch of time "busting" legal grows because they weren't allowed to check if a place had a license beforehand due to some medical privacy nonsense.

[68style]

It's dangerous as fuck to run a legal grow here, organized crime be all up in your face trying to snatch your crops from you. It's no joke, literally taking your life into your hands.

[Digitalis]

Will you still need a green card? Bye bye people visiting ampsterdam.

[Hondaracer]

Will you still need a green card? Bye bye people visiting ampsterdam.

will be the same thing as Washinton/Oregon,etc just show ID for age then buy whatever you want

[heisenberg]

so anyone who can buy alcohol / cigarettes / a porn subscription, can just walk into a dispensary and buy weed now ? doesnt sound too bad tbh. and if im correct taxes are already being collected on weed. its just included in the price of gram, so hopefully BC is already benefiting from these tax dollars and that can influence weed becoming legal or not

[68style]

It's really bad for driving laws, driving while high is still considered driving under the influence... so expect to see lots of 24 hour suspensions and charges against people who don't understand this and testing machines that will be able to read what drugs you have ingested.

[BIC_BAWS]

http://globalnews.ca/news/3380334/new-impaired-driving-laws-mean-you-could-be-asked-for-a-breath-sample-without-reason/

Looks like some new laws are included in that legal weed one

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[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/house-passes-marijuana-legislation-bill-moves-to-senate-1.3696405

Bill C-45 passed, 200 - 82

Looks like it's gonna happen

[Manic!]

https://globalnews.ca/news/3884108/tories-marijuana-bill-c-45-senate/

Cons threaten to hold it up. They are so out of touch.

[murd0c]

I betcha the Canadian government is going to receive more then twice from taxing it to whats projected.

[threezero]

These will become household name for Canadian stoner. Mind as well memorized them now

Canopy Growth
Aurora
Aphria

[Hondaracer]

Got in on canopy at $8

[threezero]

Got in on canopy at $8

try 4.20$:fullofwin:

[Manic!]

These will become household name for Canadian stoner. Mind as well memorized them now

Canopy Growth
Aurora
Aphria

Don't forget Tolley. Made in Nanaimo. Just about to drive by there grow old. I think they are the second biggest employer in Nanaimo right now.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

What’s everyone think about the thought of the Canadian market being way too small. Like market cap or a couple billion dollars max. Which is too small to take off (investment wise).

Weed smoking wise. All smokers will be winners.
But asfor long term investment. I doubt any weed company in Canada can turn into juggernaut like amazon or whatever. It’ll be limited by our low population.

[danned]

marijuana day is coming

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

That is unless we start exporting our weed globally which I highly doubt. Any place that legalized it would just grow their own.

[Ludepower]

When do you guys plan on selling ur stock?

[threezero]

That is unless we start exporting our weed globally which I highly doubt. Any place that legalized it would just grow their own.

check canopy growth's over sea deals:devil:

[Nabatron]

aphria is exporting their weed to over seas!

[DGN23]

check canopy growth's over sea deals:devil:

Aurora also has over seas deals.

[Hondaracer]

That is unless we start exporting our weed globally which I highly doubt. Any place that legalized it would just grow their own.

As mentioned, Canopy has overseas distribution.

Question is, will they be able to keep up to demand, or will they continue to grow and thrive in an open market

A lot of the discussion regarding growers seems to be geared towards legislation killing smaller growers and only leaving the biggest entities alive, so picking the right company may be the most important part

[Mr.Money]

any Canadian owned stock market for marijuana i would be wory of unless you got in early....for the simple fact lot of people may think the government has full control of the prices set for Pot (Sky High)...the underground market will still go on as away of under cutting the government themselves if people start feeling Ripped off if a fuck load of taxes is added on or even too high in price all together...these old hippie's have being growing it forever

[Ludepower]

You don't see an underground tobacco or liquor market. An industrial hydroponic grow setup will produce vast quantity which will at least keep prices competitive.

The deciding X factor is how the government plans to regulate this. Will the law pass? Will legalization be delayed? Who determines who gets licenses and who doesnt? We're still in the limbo stage on how this pans out.

[Manic!]

You don't see an underground tobacco or liquor market. An industrial hydroponic grow setup will produce vast quantity which will at least keep prices competitive.

The deciding X factor is how the government plans to regulate this. Will the law pass? Will legalization be delayed? Who determines who gets licenses and who doesnt? We're still in the limbo stage on how this pans out.

There is a big underground tobacco market. It's massive in Ontario and is getting bigger here. In Ontario they sell smokes by the bag.


https://cdn.torontolife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bags-of-smokes-1200-803x0-c-default.jpg

[Hondaracer]

How big of the population smokes knock off smokes? Anyone I ever knew who smoked Indian smokes etc like “non-branded” smokes doesn’t smoke them for long cause they are so nasty.

I’ve always stood by the opinion that if you’re so broke that you Forcibly smoke a brand other than your favorite brand due to the cost, you’re an absolute loser.

In terms of black market weed, I’ve got plenty of hook ups other than dispensaries, but I haven’t bought outside of a dispencery once in the last two years. It’s more of a convenience thing than anything, I don’t want to have to meet some guy somewhere or have anyone like that come around. I can walk in and walk out of a dispencery in minutes

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ a friend of mine did that too. Never again he said.

[Manic!]

How big of the population smokes knock off smokes? Anyone I ever knew who smoked Indian smokes etc like “non-branded” smokes doesn’t smoke them for long cause they are so nasty.



It's massive in Ontario. It costs 20 bux for a bag of 200 compared to $100 for a carton.

And in B.C.

Illegal smokes a big problem in B.C., says study - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/illegal-smokes-a-big-problem-in-b-c-says-study-1.3853311)

the numbers show that 14.7 per cent of all cigarettes smoked in B.C. are contraband.

[underscore]

14.7% is still a lot less than 100%

[Manic!]

14.7% is still a lot less than 100%

Never said it was a 100%. 14.7% is still a lot of tax revenue lost. In Ontario 32% buy illegal smokes and in Northern Ontario it's about 51%.

Study suggests third of cigarettes sold in Ontario are contraband - Sudbury - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/contraband-cigarettes-ontario-1.3948898)

[underscore]

I was comparing it to pot, but I agree it's still a lot of revenue lost.

[Hondaracer]

14% seems very high to me but who knows, I barely know anyone who smokes as is anymore

[Blueboy222]

:troll:

[Manic!]

14% seems very high to me but who knows, I barely know anyone who smokes as is anymore

When your broke you will smoke anything.

[DragonChi]

How do they identify that they're contraband?

I've been smoking a lot less since Canada made it law to add a self extinguishing chemical to the cigarettes. Smoking Canadian smokes makes me feel nauseous now.

[threezero]

How do they identify that they're contraband?

I've been smoking a lot less since Canada made it law to add a self extinguishing chemical to the cigarettes. Smoking Canadian smokes makes me feel nauseous now.

IS THIS WHAT IS IT???

I always wonder why canadian smokes taste so bad:ahwow:

You know what's going to be a bigger black market than weed?



menthol cigarettes



legalize one thing and ban another. Just great

[SkinnyPupp]

How do they identify that they're contraband?

I've been smoking a lot less since Canada made it law to add a self extinguishing chemical to the cigarettes. Smoking Canadian smokes makes me feel nauseous now.
That is fucking hilarious

Being around anyone smoking any cigarettes makes me feel nauseous LUL

[DragonChi]

I think that's why they got away with doing it. It's like smokers are going to get cancer anyways, what's another chemical going to do.

[mikemhg]

Anyone read the NDP's announcement about the changing laws in BC?

We're apparently adopting a model similar to Ontario, and NB, where the liquor distribution branch handles wholesale of cannabis, with some private liquor stores being allowed to sell.

Absolutely terrible, so disappointed. What is wrong with the private dispensary model? I voted for NDP, and I'm pissed they are making this move to create more Union jobs for the already corrupt and monopolized liquor distribution branch.

Apparently this decision falls in line with their poll many of us filled out a few months ago? I call bullshit, who wants to see weed being sold beside booze by someone who knows nothing about the product? How is it that the Americans implemented legalization better than us?

[Hondaracer]

I thought the LCB just manages distribution but there will be both public and private stores? Was my understanding at least

[mikemhg]

I thought the LCB just manages distribution but there will be both public and private stores? Was my understanding at least

Maybe I'm misreading the announcement, but it sounded as though the private dispensaries are out, and private liquor stores would be the alternative for sales?

[Manic!]

How do they identify that they're contraband?



No tax stamp on the pack. Each province has its own stamp.

[6o4__boi]

Maybe I'm misreading the announcement, but it sounded as though the private dispensaries are out, and private liquor stores would be the alternative for sales?I dunno either, I thought the liquor branch would be handling distribution and licensing but doesn't necessarily mean that dispensaries are out...just means they will likely get most of their products from the distribution branch and a small percentage from approved specialized vendors.

Gonna be quite the shitshow to implement all this with just a few months to go.

[Blueboy222]

:troll:

[welfare]

How big of the population smokes knock off smokes? Anyone I ever knew who smoked Indian smokes etc like “non-branded” smokes doesn’t smoke them for long cause they are so nasty.

I’ve always stood by the opinion that if you’re so broke that you Forcibly smoke a brand other than your favorite brand due to the cost, you’re an absolute loser.

In terms of black market weed, I’ve got plenty of hook ups other than dispensaries, but I haven’t bought outside of a dispencery once in the last two years. It’s more of a convenience thing than anything, I don’t want to have to meet some guy somewhere or have anyone like that come around. I can walk in and walk out of a dispencery in minutes

Shiet I smoke the Indian smokes. Not the bagged ones tho. Those are pretty nasty.
I honestly prefer the Indians over the Taylor made now. The TM give me a headache and have a bad aftertaste. Guess it's just what you get used to

[Manic!]

Shiet I smoke the Indian smokes. Not the bagged ones tho. Those are pretty nasty.
I honestly prefer the Indians over the Taylor made now. The TM give me a headache and have a bad aftertaste. Guess it's just what you get used to

I thought you were a law and order conservative? You do know you are supporting terrorists and criminals.

[Badhobz]

When it's legal imma gonna try it!!!

[Mr.Money]

i'm doing random drug tests on July 2 2018

you better try hold your jobs,fuckers :troll:

[welfare]

I thought you were a law and order conservative? You do know you are supporting terrorists and criminals.

Small government, bud. Small government OpieOP

[Manic!]

Small government, bud. Small government OpieOP

Small government does not mean supporting terrorists and drug dealers.

[welfare]

Small government does not mean supporting terrorists and drug dealers.

Judging by the thread, seems like the government are the drug dealers :fullofwin:

[Manic!]

Judging by the thread, seems like the government are the drug dealers :fullofwin:

But there not supporting terrorists and criminals like you are.

[welfare]

But there not supporting terrorists and criminals like you are.

Oh reeeeeally?

$10.5M settlement for Omar Khadr ?absolutely wrong?: Clement | Toronto Sun (http://torontosun.com/2017/07/04/ex-gitmo-inmate-omar-khadr-to-get-105m-apology-from-canada-official/wcm/edd4c07a-a36f-4386-8d2a-0d7ae1a94978)

[Manic!]

Oh reeeeeally?

$10.5M settlement for Omar Khadr ?absolutely wrong?: Clement | Toronto Sun (http://torontosun.com/2017/07/04/ex-gitmo-inmate-omar-khadr-to-get-105m-apology-from-canada-official/wcm/edd4c07a-a36f-4386-8d2a-0d7ae1a94978)

And the money your giving to these people is going to terrorists. But I guess your o.k. with that as long as you get cheap smokes. Just like every other conservative laws only apply to other people not you.

[Ludepower]

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/health/campaigns/marijuana-cannabis.html

Today final vote on legalization looks like a sure win.
I think us canadian can be proud we're making history and lots of money at the same time!

[hchang]

And the money your giving to these people is going to terrorists. But I guess your o.k. with that as long as you get cheap smokes. Just like every other conservative laws only apply to other people not you.

* You're

[The7even]

I love you guys...my portfolio should be looking good tomorrow :chairdance:

[Ludepower]

One year ban on edibles and concentrates. Wont be hard to find from your current unlicensed pot shops.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/SenateCA/status/1004893336795320326

Done deal (https://themarijuanaherald.com/news/canada-legalizes-marijuana-for-those-18-and-older/). Congrats Canada!

[BIC_BAWS]

Vancouver already banned edibles. Weeds still has it tho LOL

[Vansterdam]

edibles are from non-licensed dispensary's.

you can find hella mom sites online for them though

[Mr.Money]

i'm really hoping for responsible smokers staying away from public areas.

smoking some dank shit will smell it across the block let alone someone smoking outside a doorway letting the smoke waft in of a mall or movie theater.

[RickyTan3]

Growing, Distributing, Sold Details please.

Seems like they are going to have a death grip on everything.

[SkinnyPupp]

Growing, Distributing, Sold Details please.

Seems like they are going to have a death grip on everything.
Oh no, money goes to the public sector instead of gangs and terrorist groups

[BIC_BAWS]

I love you guys...my portfolio should be looking good tomorrow :chairdance:

I see all reds LOL

[threezero]

I see all reds LOL

BUy the rumor sell the new...

Too late to catch the mj train stock at this point tbh. Now that legalization is around the horizon. All these crazy valuation will finally need to come to terms with financial statements.

Still time to speculate a little but the sea will be very very red comes first and second quarter after full blown legalization.

Buying now won’t give you much cushion when the reality finally hits for some of these company with crazy valuation.

[Hondaracer]

i'm really hoping for responsible smokers staying away from public areas.

smoking some dank shit will smell it across the block let alone someone smoking outside a doorway letting the smoke waft in of a mall or movie theater.

This will be interesting. Because what do you do, just let weed smokers in the smoke pits? Lol

[BIC_BAWS]

This will be interesting. Because what do you do, just let weed smokers in the smoke pits? Lol

I suspect it'll be regulated the same as alcohol, as both will cause impairment.

[stewie]

I suspect it'll be regulated the same as alcohol, as both will cause impairment.

Will it be stricter than smoking in public? Cigarette smoke only lasts for a few moments whereas the smell of weed can be quite strong and linger. Standing a few feet from an open doorway or air vent would be useless.

[Hondaracer]

I suspect it'll be regulated the same as alcohol, as both will cause impairment.

I meant in terms of where it occurs.

[BIC_BAWS]

Will it be stricter than smoking in public? Cigarette smoke only lasts for a few moments whereas the smell of weed can be quite strong and linger. Standing a few feet from an open doorway or air vent would be useless.Well in terms of alcohol, there's no public drinking and you can't drink and drive. I would expect marijuana to follow the same rules. Recreational use on private property only.

You can smoke cigs in public, you can smoke cigs and drive. Both of these actions, while it can be a nuisance, it's for a pretty short period of time.

https://www.go2hr.ca/articles/marijuana-work-six-things-employers-should-know



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[Hondaracer]

you can drink on a patio though, in a lot of pubs and bars you can also smoke on those patios.

btw, the fucking drinking laws here are so archaic compared to virtually all of europe, people cant have a beer on the beach ffs..

[BIC_BAWS]

you can drink on a patio though, in a lot of pubs and bars you can also smoke on those patios.

That's private property tho. I mean in some work places they have alcohol as well. It's just illegal to drink alcohol openly in public. I suspect it'd be the same. That said, there are private properties - lounges, that you can blaze in. I've never been, but I think its in gastown.

[Great68]

Will it be stricter than smoking in public? Cigarette smoke only lasts for a few moments whereas the smell of weed can be quite strong and linger. Standing a few feet from an open doorway or air vent would be useless.

The smell isn't the issue, it's the carcinogens in the second hand smoke that is.

[Vansterdam]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/senate-passes-cannabis-legalization-bill-in-final-vote-1.3980234

https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/7xmjgg/canada-just-officially-passed-its-law-to-legalize-weed

What you need to know:

Many of the decisions around how legalized marijuana is sold and used will be up to the provinces and territories. Here is what you need to know about what will be allowed:

The federally mandated public possession limit of 30 grams of dried cannabis has been maintained across the country, with most jurisdictions opting to keep their legal marijuana-smoking ages in line with those for drinking alcohol.
Bill C-45 allows individuals to grow up to four marijuana plants per residence, though some provinces, like Manitoba and Quebec, plan to ban home cultivation.
Provincial and territorial plans vary widely on whether you’ll be able to smoke in public.
Provinces and territories also differ on whether pot shops will be publicly or privately owned. For those opting for publicly owned stores, these will be operated by provincial Crown corporations that sell liquor. In some cases, provinces have even created subsidiaries of these companies with names. Unless otherwise noted, these will be standalone stores wholly separate from those that sell alcohol.
While dried cannabis and cannabis oil -- both of which will be sold in 2018 -- can be used to make edible products at home, the federal government has said that packaged edible products won’t be commercially available.

Canada’s Senate passed the federal government's legal weed bill on Tuesday night, the last legislative hurdle in the country's years-long process to legalize recreational cannabis. The new law — which still requires Royal Assent — will allow adults to buy and consume small amounts of cannabis, however edibles won’t be legalized until sometime after next year.

Since the government is giving the 13 provinces and territories a grace period to get their retail systems in order, it will still be another few months until legal sales actually start. It’s a massive undertaking that’s never been attempted in any country.

British Columbia

Known around the world for being intensely pro-cannabis, the province in B.C. will implement a hybrid weed sales model where private retailers and government-run BC Cannabis Stores can sell the products to adults over 19. There are no caps on the number of store licenses, but it’s up to each municipality to approve the store locations. However, weed sales won’t be allowed to happen in places where alcohol or tobacco is sold. Some public consumption will be allowed as long as it’s not near parks or in vehicles. As home to one of the world’s biggest illegal cannabis markets, the government is encouraging illegal businesses to join the legal fold.

[Mr.Money]

once legalization happens i wonder if there will be any studies on the long term effects of cannabis vs Tobacco smoke.


there's like 60 known carcinogenic chemicals in Tobacco,and cannabis has some medical values with CBD that calms inflammation,eases stress,Stops Epileptic Seizures.
Also cancer patients treated with chemo and its awful side effects benefit a lot from Cannabis.

but again,smoke isn't natural in the lungs but we got Vaporizers without burning anything to a toast!

[Great68]

I don't even understand the "possession limit". There's no possession limit on alcohol, you can literally buy enough to kill yourself. Under 30grams, "legal", 30.1 grams 5 years in fucking prison? Talk about no in between.

Oh well, baby steps I guess. In a bunch of years time they'll realise that the sky isn't falling because of legal weed, realise that people in jail for 30.1 grams is stupid and then change the laws again.

[white rocket]

Curious if they have gotten the price down to a point that would eliminate the black market. I doubt the $180 per ounce I currently pay for high grade(tuna, blue cheese, pine tar, comatose, kosher, etc) would be similar to a retail store. Also curious on how the government will regulate the growers and what control they will have over the product they grow and what price they can sell at.

This is the major issue for me: "This legislation proposes changes to the impaired driving laws to give police new powers to conduct roadside intoxication tests, including oral fluid drug tests, and would make it illegal to drive within two hours of being over the legal limit."

What is the legal limit? How is it measured? Oral testing is complete BS and does not in any way paint an accurate picture of impairment. Will there be road side blood tests? That sounds dirty. So is it look and feel with police using their discretion based on your behavior? What is it exactly they will be looking for? Munchies? Slow speech? We are still at a time where the breathalyzer is known to give false positives and it has been around for decades and still universally accepted as an enforceable measurement. I don't believe the technology is there yet where a true intoxication limit can be accurately measured.

As a reference, I picked up yesterday and we hung out for about 3 hours. We smoked at least 6 joints in that time frame. I drove home like it was nothing with no signs of any impairment at all. Since I don't show signs of impairment I would be curious how a cop would view me if he smelled it on my clothes similar to smelling alcohol on a persons breath, which would lead to probable cause for a road side test.

[Great68]

This is the major issue for me: "This legislation proposes changes to the impaired driving laws to give police new powers to conduct roadside intoxication tests, including oral fluid drug tests, and would make it illegal to drive within two hours of being over the legal limit."

What is the legal limit? How is it measured? Oral testing is complete BS and does not in any way paint an accurate picture of impairment. Will there be road side blood tests? That sounds dirty. So is it look and feel with police using their discretion based on your behavior? What is it exactly they will be looking for? Munchies? Slow speech? We are still at a time where the breathalyzer is known to give false positives and it has been around for decades and still universally accepted as an enforceable measurement. I don't believe the technology is there yet where a true intoxication limit can be accurately measured.


It's outline in Bill C-46:

Bill C-46 - Legislative Background: reforms to the Transportation Provisions of the Criminal Code (Bill C-46) (http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/pl/sidl-rlcfa/c46/p3.html)


Part 1 of Bill C-46 – Drug-impaired driving

Bill C-46 proposes to supplement the existing drug-impaired driving offence by creating three new offences for having specified levels of a drug in the blood within two hours of driving. The penalties would depend on the drug type and the levels of drug or the combination of alcohol and drugs. The levels would be set by regulation.

For THC (the main psychoactive compound in cannabis), the proposed levels would be:

2 nanograms (ng) but less than 5 ng of THC: Having at least 2 ng but less than 5 ng of THC per millilitre (ml) of blood within two hours of driving would be a summary conviction criminal offence, punishable by a fine of up to $1,000;

5 ng or more of THC: Having 5 ng or more of THC per ml of blood within two hours of driving would be a hybrid offence. Hybrid offences are offences that can be prosecuted either by indictment, in more serious cases, or by summary conviction, in less serious cases; and

Combined THC and Alcohol: Having a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 50 milligrams (mg) of alcohol per 100 ml of blood, combined with a THC level greater than 2.5 ng per ml of blood within two hours of driving would also be a hybrid offence.
Both hybrid offences would be punishable by mandatory penalties of $1,000 for a first offence and escalating penalties for repeat offenders (e.g., 30 days imprisonment on a second offence and 120 days on a third or subsequent offence). The maximum penalties would mirror the existing maximum penalties for impaired driving. These would be increased when Part VIII.1 comes into force to two years less a day on summary conviction (up from 18 months), and to 10 years on indictment (up from 5 years). The latter penalty would make a dangerous offender application possible in appropriate circumstances.

The legislation would also authorize the Attorney General of Canada to approve the use of oral fluid drug screeners by police. These are hand held devices that determine whether a drug is present in oral fluid (saliva). Following a legal roadside stop, law enforcement would be authorized to demand that a driver provide an oral fluid sample if they reasonably suspect that a driver has drugs in their body. A positive reading would assist in developing reasonable grounds to believe that an offence has been committed. Once the officer has reasonable grounds to believe an offence has been committed, they could demand a drug evaluation by an “evaluating officer”, or the taking of a blood sample at the station.

The proposed amendments in Part 1 of the Bill would also facilitate the proof of drug impaired driving. Where an evaluating officer has identified a drug type as impairing a driver at the time of testing and that drug type is found by analysis to be in the driver’s body, it would be presumed that the drug was causing impairment at the time of driving. The proposed legislation would also provide police with the option to pursue a drug recognition evaluation or the taking of a blood sample in situations where they have reasonable grounds to believe an offence has occurred. This could save valuable time when testing for drugs, such as THC, that leave the blood very quickly.

[Mr.Money]

I don't even understand the "possession limit". There's no possession limit on alcohol, you can literally buy enough to kill yourself. Under 30grams, "legal", 30.1 grams 5 years in fucking prison? Talk about no in between.

Oh well, baby steps I guess. In a bunch of years time they'll realise that the sky isn't falling because of legal weed, realise that people in jail for 30.1 grams is stupid and then change the laws again.



BRITISH COLUMBIA

Age: 19+

Where to buy: Both government and privately-run storefronts and online sales.

Grow your own?: Up to four plants, out of public sight.

Where to smoke?: Only where tobacco may be smoked.

Other notes: Landlords can restrict cultivation and smoking on their properties.




i don't get how that works.....once your plant is done and if its more than 30 grams how fucked are you? :seriously:

[Hondaracer]

Price is irrelevant to me, I haven’t bought from a “dealer” in years.

I never buy more than an eighth from a dispencery as I can walk there in 5 minutes and also it won’t go dry or get old before I buy more. Even if an ounce is 2/40/50 more id prefer to walk in and buy at my own accord than rely on a dealer.

[Great68]

i don't get how that works.....once your plant is done and if its more than 30 grams how fucked are you? :seriously:


It's a "public" possession limit, so you could stock up pounds of it in your house, but only transport 30 grams at a time.

It's still dumb though.

[underscore]

I don't even understand the "possession limit". There's no possession limit on alcohol, you can literally buy enough to kill yourself. Under 30grams, "legal", 30.1 grams 5 years in fucking prison? Talk about no in between.

I read "public possession limit" to mean that's the limit when you're out in public, ie no walking around with a backpack full. Which I'm assuming is how they intend to differentiate between personal use and an illegal dealer.

[Mr.Money]

Trudeau says cannabis will be legal in Canada on Oct. 17

Looks like we were born in the Right time Boys :thumbs: Lets just see how governments medical grows compared to the Old hippies who've being doing for years growing with Hydroponics

[SkinnyPupp]

Someone send me some 4Head

[Great68]

Two days after my birthday.
Wish it was a bit sooner though.

[Armind]

You can buy from my website soon :hotbaby:

Someone send me some 4Head

[Ludepower]

Let the floodgates open. Choose your weed stock and let it run boys and girls.

[underscore]

I wonder how many people are gonna cause problems between now and then because "it's almost legal!"

[white rocket]

It feels like it is better now and once they begin implementing their rules and laws it'll make life harder. Road side check enforcement and the officers awareness of the new law making them look closer and deeper at drivers, commercial growers protocol, home grow laws, possession rules, etc. Some are calling it prohibition 2.0

Just because the law changes doesn't mean that society will accept it. There are still a shit ton of humans that demonize it so it'll take a generation to get those baby boomers out of office before the Gen X's have real power and a realistic view of it.

[Mr.Money]

fuck'em,i bet you after its all said and done in one year of sales it will top at least 2 billion dollars.

[stewie]

Let's say you've got 4 plants growing in your house and its time to collect your hard earned weed. How much weed can those 4 plants produce and how long would it last for an average person who only smokes once or twice a day? If you were to sell it all instead how much are you looking at making? I don't plan on growing any or selling anything but I'm really curious as to how much this can benefit someone.

[Hondaracer]

the yield off 4 plants that grew even half-assed could get between an ounce to 3-4

Unless you're smoking a tonne, that shit is gonna be dry or go bad before you probably get through much of it.

its no different than growing tomatoes or somthing though, whenever i buy a tomato plant i probably end up tossing half the yield cause its just too much to eat lol

[Great68]

Someone should change the title of this thread, it's not really accurate anymore :P

[Ludepower]

Someone should change the title of this thread, it's not really accurate anymore :P

Pretty darn close I say.
It follows up on trudeau's promise to legalize.
1st G7 country to do it..also first country to get their heads outta their bumholes

[Hondaracer]

In going to be very interested how it turns out

After recently going to Amsterdam, the “weed scene” there is a joke really and at best a tourist novelty. There are seemingly zero locals who actually sit and smoke before work or somthing with a coffee etc. it seemed like it was virtually 100% tourists.

I’d say Portland or Washington is obviously a better example but I feel like it’s going to be very different even from them

[will068]

Pretty darn close I say.
It follows up on trudeau's promise to legalize.
1st G7 country to do it..also first country to get their heads outta their bumholes

I just like how this is a big FU to big pharma.

[Mr.Money]

Let's say you've got 4 plants growing in your house and its time to collect your hard earned weed. How much weed can those 4 plants produce and how long would it last for an average person who only smokes once or twice a day? If you were to sell it all instead how much are you looking at making? I don't plan on growing any or selling anything but I'm really curious as to how much this can benefit someone.






the yield off 4 plants that grew even half-assed could get between an ounce to 3-4

Unless you're smoking a tonne, that shit is gonna be dry or go bad before you probably get through much of it.

its no different than growing tomatoes or somthing though, whenever i buy a tomato plant i probably end up tossing half the yield cause its just too much to eat lol



you really have to know what you're doing 100%,they do got pre-mixed formulas you could buy now a days,Liquid or pre-mixed Dirt,but you'll have to remember how your plants Are reacting to the nutrients if it's eating it up or your feeding it too much aka it will have burnt leafs..u dont want that,lesser is always better than too much...Each strains have different levels how much they can take in,Also you'll want a Air humidity meter,Keep it under 40% with a dehumidifier and any higher you're running a Huge risk for you plant to get Bud Rot and it will kill a whole crop.


Also you need to remember to have plant support once it grows tall enough,you'll need a fan also to blow around the plant to increase its strength of the plant stock,its not just only to keep it cool from the lights...good idea to have a plant support with bamboo sticks for help.


Anything else,its gonna fucking reek the room its growing in like a Skunk so some growers buy a massive carbon air filter fan to scub the air and not let the smell fill you're entire house once it starts growing.

Organic grows are way more complicated & takes more time mixing the natural nutrients made from other plant sources but Ton of the OG growers & smokers say the Cannabis tastes way better.


thats the basics of it, just don't be an idiot and let your dog around the plants cause there gonna be a huge bug infestion if you do...BrokeBack

The very last important detail after you're done letting it grow a whole 3 to 4 weeks is flush your plant and that means feeding it water only for 2-weeks not including it together with the growth cycle,this is after 3-4 weeks,it gets rid of the nutrients build-up and gives a smoother smoke,With pure white ash after you burn 'n smoke it from the joint.

#1 Rule- Do not fucking rush the drying process on the harvest of the cannabis,don't add a heater in the room,You're making your bud shit and will be harsh on the throat,killing flavor too..

hang it up a 3-5 days from the ceiling...if the stock of the plant snaps like wood..its dry enough...good enough,Can that bitch up in some glass mason jars and you're good to go,you may have to burp the glass mason jars too once in a while just so not too much moisture gathers up..

how do i know this shit?...i study everything because i knew legalization would come true one day and i'm OCD..


lighting side of things is recommend 16 hours and 9 rest for the plants to recover in the first 2 weeks growing and let off with the light near the end shorter to 8-9 hours lighting each day...they love light early in the life but near the end you gotta give'em less..

[Vansterdam]

4 plants? get a grow tent ;) :nyan:

hit up my homie @ Canngro Garden Supply in Langley for any equipment :bigthumb: