[G0rilla]

Im looking to buy a Lexus NX for the wife, but went into Richmond Lexus and they looked at me like I was a homeless person in the wrong place hahaha.

I rmb reading someone saying they had the same experience at Richmond Lexus, pretty much all they do is cater to fobs and theres really no need to make a sale.

Anyone have any recommendations

[mb_]

Pm'd

[oldsnail]

wait for the 2018 NX, it should be out pretty soon.

facelift version - exterior and interior upgrade etc.

[VR6GTI]

I had same experience at Port Moody Lexus a few years ago. I purchased elsewhere

[bcrdukes]

Out of curiosity, do you guys make an appointment when you go in to these Lexus dealers? Or did you guys walk in randomly to wait for someone to help you?

[jjson]

I heard good things about Regency Lexus on Burrard

[Edison_Chen]

My parents bought their RX at north shore (Jim Pattinson) Lexus. They shopped around Regency, open road and North shore gave them the best price

[dvst8]

Regency (howard) or Port moody Lexus are good.
Stay away from Richmond, theyre too good for everyone.

[Euro7r]

Regency Lexus Burrard.

[tegra7]

Should go back there with your R35 GTR, they'll probably kiss your butt like no tomorrow.

[punkwax]

Bought my old IS from Cody @ N Shore Lexus. Best dealer transaction to date.

[ScizzMoney]

I find I get treated way better if I make an appointment. Every time now that I go to a dealership I do that. Otherwise, I generally get ignored.

[Bender Unit]

I find I get treated way better if I make an appointment. Every time now that I go to a dealership I do that. Otherwise, I generally get ignored.

^ This ^
So the Saleperson know what you are looking for. They can prepare couple of models & package to showcase to your likes.

[Badhobz]

I've had nothing but great service at Richmond Lexus. We've bought 6 Lexussss Lexi from them over the years and it's been nothing but great experiences. Their sales staff is stable. The same guys sold us the is300 stold my dad the 2017 rx350

[Truenosan]

Regency Lexus. My grandparents purchased their RX350 from them back in 07, and my mom picked up a 16 NX200t from them as well. Was treated very well, and the new Lexus Global design showroom is just amazing.

[DaJo]

Regency Lexus, I've made my purchase there and got nothing but good things to say about them. They make you feel VIP every visit.

[bcrdukes]

So just to follow up on my original post - I asked because I only make appointments with dealers to see a car, regardless of make/brand.

Each and every time I've made an appointment, I have been well taken care of, even if I show up looking like a Main Street hipster. Richmond Lexus offered a pretty good experience when I looked at an IS250 a few years back, and recently an RX350.

I suggest you guys make appointments. I would like to think that you will have a better sales experience as opposed to simply walking in.

[G0rilla]

Well thanks for the recommendation guys, Regency Lexus did it for me. I didn't do anything different (still same homeless look lol and I didnt take the GTR), but upon entrance to the showroom, the receptionist got up and asked me right away if they could help me with anything.

Right after, she introduced me to a sales agent and asked me what I was looking for, showed me everything that was available, and even worked out a good price for me. Nothing but positive review for Regency. Even though their showroom might not be piano white marble, or have huge 50ft glass windows like richmond, their service more than made up for it. Wife is happy and I'm happy, thanks again RS!

Potato pic of new ride

http://i.imgur.com/JT5LkLd.jpg

So just to follow up on my original post - I asked because I only make appointments with dealers to see a car, regardless of make/brand.

I suggest you guys make appointments. I would like to think that you will have a better sales experience as opposed to simply walking in.

Definitely a good idea for you guys looking to purchase in the future. I never opted to make an appointment mainly due to the fact that I assumed I would get hard sell by the sales team or pressured. My experience with Richmond Lexus was negative because I merely would like to at least be greeted and asked if I needed help with anything. I wandered in, looked at the spec sheets, sat in the car and whatever and not one person came up to me and spent a second to ask.

[DaJo]

Well thanks for the recommendation guys, Regency Lexus did it for me. I didn't do anything different (still same homeless look lol and I didnt take the GTR), but upon entrance to the showroom, the receptionist got up and asked me right away if they could help me with anything.

Right after, she introduced me to a sales agent and asked me what I was looking for, showed me everything that was available, and even worked out a good price for me. Nothing but positive review for Regency. Even though their showroom might not be piano white marble, or have huge 50ft glass windows like richmond, their service more than made up for it. Wife is happy and I'm happy, thanks again RS!

Potato pic of new ride

http://i.imgur.com/JT5LkLd.jpg



Definitely a good idea for you guys looking to purchase in the future. I never opted to make an appointment mainly due to the fact that I assumed I would get hard sell by the sales team or pressured. My experience with Richmond Lexus was negative because I merely would like to at least be greeted and asked if I needed help with anything. I wandered in, looked at the spec sheets, sat in the car and whatever and not one person came up to me and spent a second to ask.

Congrats on your new ride! Glad it all worked out. I knew it would!

Like you, I just walked right into Regency Lexus as well, and was quickly greeted and made VIP. Cheers!

[tru_blue]

Im looking to buy a Lexus NX for the wife, but went into Richmond Lexus and they looked at me like I was a homeless person in the wrong place hahaha.

I rmb reading someone saying they had the same experience at Richmond Lexus, pretty much all they do is cater to fobs and theres really no need to make a sale.

Anyone have any recommendations

Congrats on your purchase !

which sales agent did you get it from ?

[maxx]

Congrads, Regency would have been my choice!

[G0rilla]

Thanks everyone! The salesman's name was Andrew, an middle age guy.What stuck out was that I found older sales usually dont bother to acknowledge younger people (i'm 29, young ish?) when they walk into dealerships without their parents. I told him I was also interested in the RX too, and he showed us the new and the preowned, and determine our needs, and made recommendations as we went along chatting. It was also on a Sunday around closing time, I felt bad to have to make him stay late lol

[Harvey Specter]

Anyone have a contact at a Lexus dealership? Looking to put myself on the list for the GX 550 but the few people I spoke to online seem like f'king pricks.

[Badhobz]

i bought all my cars at openroad lexus EXCEPT for the ratrolla.

If you go to openroad lexus richmond, go see a guy name phillip ngai
https://openroadlexusrichmond.com/advisors
hes a total old cantonese ah bak who's been around for 30+ years. You wont get the best service, but you get consistency and no bullshit. He'll be very straight forward with you.

Regency is fantastic as well. I got my ratrolla with the help of Kennard Wong and the GM of that place is truly a fantastic individual. Andrew Lee (which might have been the sales guy that gorilla saw back in 2017) is one righteous dude.
https://www.regencylexus.com/en/staff-listing

Regency's got my pick for getting a better experience. North shore wasnt bad either, there's some white guy i dealt with up there before to put in the allocation for the LC but it ended up not coming in on time.

[Harvey Specter]

i bought all my cars at openroad lexus EXCEPT for the ratrolla.

If you go to openroad lexus richmond, go see a guy name phillip ngai
https://openroadlexusrichmond.com/advisors
hes a total old cantonese ah bak who's been around for 30+ years. You wont get the best service, but you get consistency and no bullshit. He'll be very straight forward with you.

Regency is fantastic as well. I got my ratrolla with the help of Kennard Wong and the GM of that place is truly a fantastic individual. Andrew Lee (which might have been the sales guy that gorilla saw back in 2017) is one righteous dude.
https://www.regencylexus.com/en/staff-listing

Regency's got my pick for getting a better experience. North shore wasnt bad either, there's some white guy i dealt with up there before to put in the allocation for the LC but it ended up not coming in on time.

Awesome, thanks.

[Badhobz]

if you go to regency, tell them the fat fuck with the wrapped LC sent you. They'll treat you right.

If you go to openroad and talk to philip, tell him the fat fuck with the LC, RX, RX, ES, SC430 sent you and he'll either run for the hills or have that typical old chinaman look where he pretends youre not even talking to him and slowly fade into the background.

[Harvey Specter]

Lol

So I received a response from Shane at Regency, straight forward guy who provided me the info I was looking for so I've decided to provide him a deposit. It'll be a long wait but I think the GX 550 will be worth it.

Side note, I never thought I would talking allocations with a Lexus dealer and same with Toyota dealers.

[Badhobz]

youre looking at the new new one (2024 model year?) its pretty bad ass looking, but i wouldnt buy first year production no matter what the brand is. Especially when they are using new fangled technologies thats not yet stabilized.

if you wanna move up the allocation list, just say you have a trade in and youre looking to finance/lease. Then they'll have a raging hard on to sell you a car cuz they can double end both deals.

[radeonboy]

Many of these lists aren't based on deposit sequence, but rather what your trade-in plus deal structure is. You can probably get one faster by accepting a lowball trade.

And I agree with Hobz, I wouldn't rush to get the first model year.

[Harvey Specter]

First year is a concern so we'll see what happens. Btw, I emailed Philip as well. Let's see who wants to make a deal and not waste time.

[dark0821]

By the time it gets to you it will be 2025.

You can always decline if they call you up, and said you are not ready on your end yet.

At my dealer, you don't lose your place in line, we just call you the next shipment, which could be 10 months later lololol. No joke, we had 1 shipment of 2023 Tucson PHEV this year so far (and we are at the end of Nov)... and like 5 units came on that shipment... so.... the next shipment will definitely be 2024 MY lololol

[Harvey Specter]

Yah, I'm reading online about Toyota/Lexus allocations. Insane that some dealers go months without allocations for certain models. I'm not in a rush so if I receive allocation a year from now that's fine by me.

[RabidRat]

Lol

So I received a response from Shane at Regency, straight forward guy who provided me the info I was looking for so I've decided to provide him a deposit. It'll be a long wait but I think the GX 550 will be worth it.

Side note, I never thought I would talking allocations with a Lexus dealer and same with Toyota dealers.

Have you figured out which trim you're getting? And curious how you weighed the GX550 against the Land Cruiser?

[Harvey Specter]

Have you figured out which trim you're getting? And curious how you weighed the GX550 against the Land Cruiser?

Whatever the Premium or Premium+ trim will be in Canada, the main reason I'm opting for the premium trim is the 20" wheels. The luxury trim has the 22" wheels, and I've had all sorts of issues with the 22" tires on my X5. Also, the US trims are different from the Canadian trims based on what's been leaked online.

https://i.ibb.co/yqwCgyG/hyf632e0h51c1.jpg

The reason why I'm opting for the Lexus is the wait time. Toyota LC wait times are much longer and tbh only one dealer is willing to even take a deposit for it. The rest of them have basically told me I'm too late and the list is 2+ years deep.

[CorneringArtist]

The reason why I'm opting for the Lexus is the wait time. Toyota LC wait times are much longer and tbh only one dealer is willing to even take a deposit for it. The rest of them have basically told me I'm too late and the list is 2+ years deep.

I called a favour with a salesman I used to work with about an LC a couple of days after it dropped cover and got myself on the list. I'm surprised that the wait is sitting at 2 years already given the starting price.

Must be the anxiety over the 4R being real quiet for updates.

[Edison_Chen]

In the beginning of the year I went and ordered my new RX350h from Regency Lexus. I was recommended by someone to deal with Frank at Regency. He gave me the keys for the test drive and told me to take my time. The entire experience was all positive. I ended up getting my 350h in May.

I could have went to the local Openroad Lexus 10 mins away, but I didn’t want to deal with dealer add-ons and the crappy game they play with trade in and financing. My opinion, I felt like Openroad doesn’t care/appreciate my business. If I don’t buy from them, the next Chinese baller with tons of money will buy the car and probably jump the line and get the car ahead of me.

2 weeks ago, my dad went to Openroad Lexus to inquire and maybe put down a deposit on the new Rx450h and the the sales person asked the typical questions: do you have a trade in and will you be leasing or financing. They mentioned they the wait will be probably be at least a year.

The next day, I told him to go to Regency Lexus and see Frank. Frank provided the same positive experience. My dad ended up leaving a $1000 deposit on a RX450h. No guarantee how long the wait was going to be.

TLDR; Regency Lexus is my preferred Lexus dealer in the lower mainland.

[Harvey Specter]

I called a favour with a salesman I used to work with about an LC a couple of days after it dropped cover and got myself on the list. I'm surprised that the wait is sitting at 2 years already given the starting price.

Must be the anxiety over the 4R being real quiet for updates.

I feel like you must know someone who works for Toyota or have a buying history with them to get a straight answer. I suspect that inquiries from randoms like me trigger red flags. They probably assume I'm a flipper or a straw buyer.

[Harvey Specter]

In the beginning of the year I went and ordered my new RX350h from Regency Lexus. I was recommended by someone to deal with Frank at Regency. He gave me the keys for the test drive and told me to take my time. The entire experience was all positive. I ended up getting my 350h in May.

I could have went to the local Openroad Lexus 10 mins away, but I didn’t want to deal with dealer add-ons and the crappy game they play with trade in and financing. My opinion, I felt like Openroad doesn’t care/appreciate my business. If I don’t buy from them, the next Chinese baller with tons of money will buy the car and probably jump the line and get the car ahead of me.

2 weeks ago, my dad went to Openroad Lexus to inquire and maybe put down a deposit on the new Rx450h and the the sales person asked the typical questions: do you have a trade in and will you be leasing or financing. They mentioned they the wait will be probably be at least a year.

The next day, I told him to go to Regency Lexus and see Frank. Frank provided the same positive experience. My dad ended up leaving a $1000 deposit on a RX450h. No guarantee how long the wait was going to be.

TLDR; Regency Lexus is my preferred Lexus dealer in the lower mainland.

I had a much better experience with Regency Lexus as well. As I mentioned earlier, I reached out via online chat last week. Shane G followed up with two emails, unfortunately, they ended up in my junk folder, so I replied to him a couple of days ago. He provided a lot of details and was very upfront about wait times and how the allocation process works. I provided him with the $1000 deposit yesterday, so let's see how long it'll take to get an allocation.

The worst communication I experienced was with Lexus Northshore. I used their online chat, and a salesperson appeared, stating that he could put me on the list but required my information. I provided my contact info and he tells me 'Give me a few minutes, I'll email you now.' It's been 24 hours, and I still haven't received an email from him lol.

[Badhobz]

In the beginning of the year I went and ordered my new RX350h from Regency Lexus.

hey man how you like your 350h? it uses premium right?

My buddy who works at openroad lexus has ran into SO SO many problems with them.

Exhaustive list of first year problems off the top of my head.

- New UI software crashing. not working, not being intuitive. The old lexus user interface was bad enough with the joystick, but this new one is even more horrid apparently
- Doors not opening during the winter time (thanks toyota for making this electronic door lock bullshit) even though car is unlocked
- gas cap misaligning to bodywork
- digital fob/2nd fob not working
- engine sounding very rough and coarse

[EvoFire]

Is the 350h the 2.4t?

[Badhobz]

350h is the hybrid with the 4 banger NON turbo + CVT + hybrid drive train.
The regular 350 is the 4 banger turbo.

They also have the 500h which i believe is just a more powerful hybrid drive train. No difference in gasoline engine sizes.

[bcrdukes]

hey man how you like your 350h? it uses premium right?

My buddy who works at openroad lexus has ran into SO SO many problems with them.

Exhaustive list of first year problems off the top of my head.

- New UI software crashing. not working, not being intuitive. The old lexus user interface was bad enough with the joystick, but this new one is even more horrid apparently
- Doors not opening during the winter time (thanks toyota for making this electronic door lock bullshit) even though car is unlocked
- gas cap misaligning to bodywork
- digital fob/2nd fob not working
- engine sounding very rough and coarse

dark0821's Tesla is an angel in comparison, right? :troll:

[Edison_Chen]

hey man how you like your 350h? it uses premium right?

My buddy who works at openroad lexus has ran into SO SO many problems with them.

Exhaustive list of first year problems off the top of my head.

- New UI software crashing. not working, not being intuitive. The old lexus user interface was bad enough with the joystick, but this new one is even more horrid apparently
- Doors not opening during the winter time (thanks toyota for making this electronic door lock bullshit) even though car is unlocked
- gas cap misaligning to bodywork
- digital fob/2nd fob not working
- engine sounding very rough and coarse


I haven't driven it enough to make any long term ownership feedback, but based on owning it for about 6 months and short trips within the city:



UI software doesn't bother me too much. Its actually great for us. I hate it when it gets too complicated to operate basic infotainment functions (radio/navi/settings). I haven't had any issues with apple carplay (wireless) and or other software related. It's a big upgrade over my 2018 4Runner Ltd that I previous had.
I have the Heads up display (HUD), but i hate the touch sensitive buttons on the steering wheel as my thumbs always touch it by accident.
Not a big of the new electric door handle. Instead of pulling the door handle outwards, there's a open button behind the handle that you press to opens the door. I miss pulling out the door handles
Weird not hearing the 'thump' when locking and unlocking the doors; i always press lock or unlock thinking that I didn't press it correctly.
When the gas engine turns on, it doesn't sound pleasant. It does a acceptable job getting around town but don't except to race Civic's up the hill.
Gas mileage is suppose to be great, but we haven't driven it enough to see it yet.
I don't have the misalign gas cap issue on my Apr/May build date RX
We only received 1 FOB and 2 metal keys when we picked up our car in May. Still haven't heard anything yet from the dealer on when we will receive the 2nd one. I don't use the digital key to lock/unlock/start/drive (Telsa like) from the Lexus app even though it is available on our model.
87 octane is ok; the manual "recommends" premium, but the minimum octane is 87


https://i.ibb.co/BBCFfCv/002.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tZNywWm/019.jpg

[dark0821]

dark0821's Tesla is an angel in comparison, right? :troll:

no man lol, I am just a sucker for abuse lolol... the tail light issue is to a point where now Tesla accepts the fogging/moisture to be "within spec" lololol

Still kinda hunting for a Model 3 Performance though lolol

The tesla loaner does have full FSD ... its slower and a bit sketchy, but I was joking with my wife, what if I just FSD + Uber eats deliveries lolol ///

Anyways back on topic.... tbh me + my parents still do have a soft spot for the RX... at least to my parents there is nth else on the market...

the MDX is a no, they think its "too sporty" or not "old man like enough"
the infiniti is just a no
all the Germans are a no because my parents drive their cars to the 250kkms
the domestics... well... yea... that's just a straight no without even trying to consider them

That leaves the RX... on its own, my parents wouldnt even cross-shop with anything else... lolol

[radeonboy]

My parents bought an RZ and like it more than their Model Y and RX. It has a lower range and doesn't charge as fast as the Y, but they don't drive enough to hit either limitation. The trade-off for better build quality and familiarity is worth it for them.

[TypeRNammer]

My parents bought an RZ and like it more than their Model Y and RX. It has a lower range and doesn't charge as fast as the Y, but they don't drive enough to hit either limitation. The trade-off for better build quality and familiarity is worth it for them.

Wish the RZ had a MSRP to qualify for both of the EV rebates.

[radeonboy]

Wish the RZ had a MSRP to qualify for both of the EV rebates.

The base trim qualifies for BC rebates, and the upgraded package comes with a $3,000 manufacturer incentive on top. IIRC the manufacturer promos last month were almost equivalent to getting both federal / BC incentives.

[Badhobz]

The RZ isn’t bad but I’m worried the damn wheels will fall off like before. Like I said first year production isn’t my cup of tea. I got a feeling the RZ will go the way of that Lexus HS sedan. The one off hybrid sedan that didn’t make it into the second generation.

[bcrdukes]

Well, the HS looked pretty weird. And they also killed off the CT which is not bad but a weirdo car kinda like my Corolla iM aka Scion iM as 69style likes to call it.

[JDMDreams]

Hs was like a Prius but it wasn't? Like Camry hybrid drive train. Ct was like Prius I'm? I wanted a ct for a daily before but people wanted stupid money for them.

I'm so confused with the new names, there's like gx tx now? But still lx? They have like 6? SUVs? If you throw in the rz. Rx has a billion models and l version.

I feel like they are doing a Infiniti, Acura when they changed their name structure and ruined their brand

[AstulzerRZD]

Hs was like a Prius but it wasn't? Like Camry hybrid drive train. Ct was like Prius I'm? I wanted a ct for a daily before but people wanted stupid money for them.

I'm so confused with the new names, there's like gx tx now? But still lx? They have like 6? SUVs? If you throw in the rz. Rx has a billion models and l version.

I feel like they are doing a Infiniti, Acura when they changed their name structure and ruined their brand

That's a good thing - the CT had hella head gasket issues.

My mom turned down the standard RAV4 Hybrid and RX Hybrids - apparently the engine was "too loud for a new car" and so we're waiting for for a plugin NX/RAV.

[radeonboy]

I'm so confused with the new names, there's like gx tx now? But still lx? They have like 6? SUVs? If you throw in the rz. Rx has a billion models and l version.

RX, LX and GX have been around forever. The TX is the successor to the RX-L, and RZ is their EV.

[EvoFire]

Hs was like a Prius but it wasn't? Like Camry hybrid drive train. Ct was like Prius I'm? I wanted a ct for a daily before but people wanted stupid money for them.

I'm so confused with the new names, there's like gx tx now? But still lx? They have like 6? SUVs? If you throw in the rz. Rx has a billion models and l version.

I feel like they are doing a Infiniti, Acura when they changed their name structure and ruined their brand

RX, GX, LX has been around forever. RX is uprated Highlander, GX is LC Prado, LX is big LC.

The TX replaces the RXL which was their 7 seat version of the RX, which means TX will be an uprated Grand Highlander.

NX is their mid size offering that started awhile ago which is similar to the Rav4/Venza.

[Badhobz]

Hs was like a Prius but it wasn't? Like Camry hybrid drive train. Ct was like Prius I'm? I wanted a ct for a daily before but people wanted stupid money for them.

I'm so confused with the new names, there's like gx tx now? But still lx? They have like 6? SUVs? If you throw in the rz. Rx has a billion models and l version.

I feel like they are doing a Infiniti, Acura when they changed their name structure and ruined their brand

yes they've gone insane. I honestly will not buy another lexus product nowadays. The ratrolla is the last one im willing to purchase unless they bring over the LM mini van thingy.

Even the LX has gone v6 twin turbo instead of the usual v8. :heckno:

that TX is basically the Grand Highlander and both of those are North American models only (also built in USA only) so not a global car.

[JDMDreams]

I think LS and LC will be the only ones I buy assuming they were still made in Japan? Does the GS still exist? Is is too small and I don't want fwd

[jcmaz]

GS is gone. It was a weird product since the ES (upscaled Avalon) did the whole luxury comfort sedan thing much better than the GS.

[bcrdukes]

The GS was discontinued a while ago and it was RWD or AWD, not FWD. The only FWD sedan in the Lexus lineup is the ES and they are made in Canada I think.

[Badhobz]

Toyota Tahara Plant (Tahara, Japan): Lexus LS, IS, GX, LX, & RC
Toyota Yoshiwara Plant (Toyota, Aichi, Japan): Lexus LX
Toyota Motor Kyushu (Miyawaka, Fukuoka, Japan): Lexus UX
Toyota Miyata Plant (Miyawaka, Fukuoka, Japan): Lexus IS & ES
Toyota Motomachi Plant (Toyota, Aichi, Japan): Lexus LC
Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, Inc. (Cambridge, Ontario, Canada): Lexus NX, NX Hybrid, RX, & RX Hybrid
Toyota Motor Manufacturing Kentucky, Inc. (Georgetown, Kentucky, United States): Lexus ES


Don’t buy an ES NX TX or RX. Those are all made in North America. The rest are still built in Japan. With the LC being built in motomachi. Aka flagship plant, same plant where the GR ratrolla comes from and the Toyota crown / century and previously the LFA.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=Q940inm7TLl_93bM&v=YQLvU05yq1I&feature=youtu.be

Motomachi is some hardcore shit. Staffed by takumi’s that come from the lesser Japanese factory.
I’m gonna go tour that factory next year and see them produce LCs in person. Also gonna see if they have some cool Toyota swag to pickup.

[jcmaz]

What about the NX Prime? My RAV4 Prime is made in Nippon and has a J vin

[Badhobz]

I don’t think the NX phev is out yet. All other NXs for North America are made locally. Not Japanese unfortunately

[radeonboy]

I don’t think the NX phev is out yet. All other NXs for North America are made locally. Not Japanese unfortunately

The NX 450h+ PHEV has been out for quite for a while now but is hard to get, though easier than the RAV4 Prime. The RX and TX also have PHEV options, but they're $$$$.

[red kryptonite]

definitely keeping my eye on the gx overtrail... especially when they release the hybrid.

price leak

https://www.lexusgxforum.com/threads/2024-lexus-gx550-pricing-and-options-list.113/

[EvoFire]

The NX PHEV is 90k+ out the door. At the price point it's hard to justify. But my brother and a friend both bought them.....

[JDMDreams]

Must be nice to still afford new cars in this marketFeelsBadMan

[Badhobz]

at the rates they currently want, i dont know how anyone could. Like when i was doing my ratrolla purchase, they wanted 4.9% and i was like laughing cuz 0 down, the montlhy would have been $2500 bucks.

Now its at 8.9% and that monthly is like almost $2900 a month with 0 down and throughout a 48 month lease, you'll be paying like 40k worth of interest alone.

[JDMDreams]

I was doing like a Integra Type S payment for shits and giggles, and it was like $73000 after tax and the payments were like $1300 a month at like 7% for a fucking civic:fulloffuck: before gas + insurance

[TypeRNammer]

The NX PHEV is 90k+ out the door. At the price point it's hard to justify. But my brother and a friend both bought them.....

The optional executive package is an additional $16,550, that's a lot of money :pokerface:

[Badhobz]

I was doing like a Integra Type S payment for shits and giggles, and it was like $73000 after tax and the payments were like $1300 a month at like 7% for a fucking civic:fulloffuck: before gas + insurance

sigh... 73k used to be brand new e90 m3 money.

[Harvey Specter]

Yup, MSRP's have gone up for all manufacturers. I purchased my 2021 X5, fully loaded for around $87k and at that time BMW was offering 1.9% + loyalty reductions. Now the same X5 has a MSRP of close to $90k before options.

And high rates will likely stick around for high demand cars.

[EvoFire]

The optional executive package is an additional $16,550, that's a lot of money :pokerface:

I think for most of the time it's been available, you can't get it without the executive package. Toyota and Lexus don't do custom order, you get what the factory produces and they all came loaded. You only get to pick exterior colour.

sigh... 73k used to be brand new e90 m3 money.

My F80 M3 still started at 72k. But I think I've only seen ONE base car in Vancouver. There was a Silverstone on cloth with manual, no parking sensors no nothing.

Yup, MSRP's have gone up for all manufacturers. I purchased my 2021 X5, fully loaded for around $87k and at that time BMW was offering 1.9% + loyalty reductions. Now the same X5 has a MSRP of close to $90k before options.

And high rates will likely stick around for high demand cars.

You could still get 1.9 two years ago? BMW is doing 5.99 now which isn't terrible considering the land of 8%. Mazda is doing 4.5.

I miss the days of paying 0.24% on our X3. I can't even lease a M340 now with the payments I had on my M3.

[radeonboy]

I think for most of the time it's been available, you can't get it without the executive package. Toyota and Lexus don't do custom order, you get what the factory produces and they all came loaded. You only get to pick exterior colour.



My F80 M3 still started at 72k. But I think I've only seen ONE base car in Vancouver. There was a Silverstone on cloth with manual, no parking sensors no nothing.



You could still get 1.9 two years ago? BMW is doing 5.99 now which isn't terrible considering the land of 8%. Mazda is doing 4.5.

I miss the days of paying 0.24% on our X3. I can't even lease a M340 now with the payments I had on my M3.

Everything's gone up dramatically so it's not surprising. I helped someone spec a '23 X7 as a lease-end replacement with similar options and it's $35k more + luxury tax - he ended up buying out his lease instead.

I always assumed the base NX450+ was spec'd just to get the incentive - don't think there was motivation to offer it when there's issues with supply chain and a big wait list.

Think there was a base F80 M3 6MT in Yas Marina Blue - not sure if it's still in the lower mainland nowadays.

[Harvey Specter]

You could still get 1.9 two years ago? BMW is doing 5.99 now which isn't terrible considering the land of 8%. Mazda is doing 4.5.


Yup, my dad purchased a brand new 330i in 2021 when I purchased my X5 and I believe he's paying 1.49%. This was with the loyalty rate reduction. He's paid a close to a $100 YTD lol.

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The 4.99% is on select inventory but I received an e-mail from BJBMW offering 1.9% on a new 7 series demo.