[geeknerd]

Recently moved to a newly built condo and there was a notice informing that a private company has been hired to have a narcotics sniffer dog sweep all the publicly accessible parts of the building.

What is the point to this and is this a normal occurrence by FSResdential? Could the strata even do something if the dog smelled something in the hallway? I personally don't do drugs but I'm sure the dog will get hits of weed on most floors. Seems like a waste of budget to me.

[murd0c]

Can't say I have ever heard of that before, maybe the building is having issues with drug dealers? That being said even if the dog found something it doesn't give them the right to enter the condo.

[dapperfied]

My colleague brought this up last week, she probs lives in the same condo lol

[jackmeister]

LOL the perks of living across the street from burnaby.

[Bouncing Bettys]

If the dog finds something in these areas, what is the next step? What can the landlord do while not trampling on civil liberties/tenant rights?

[Hondaracer]

If i was paying strata fee's id be fucking choked money is going towards this shit, unless it's been like a chronic drug dealer problem and not some strata on a rampage

[meme405]

Never heard of that before.

Have they had grow-op problems?

[winson604]

Lol literally just heard about this from a coworker about his building (likely same building). Sounds weird, so if they sniff your apartment and find a dime bag of weed then what?

[SumAznGuy]

Lol literally just heard about this from a coworker about his building (likely same building). Sounds weird, so if they sniff your apartment and find a dime bag of weed then what?

They won't be sniffing your unit.
They are only allowed to sniff common areas, like the lobby and the hallways of each floor.

And even if the dog pick's something up, that isn't enough to go to the police to investigate, I think. It would take a lot more than that to get a warrant to enter the unit.

[CivicBlues]

Lol literally just heard about this from a coworker about his building (likely same building). Sounds weird, so if they sniff your apartment and find a dime bag of weed then what?

OOH YEAH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOyJmMLl2BY

[threezero]

They won't be sniffing your unit.
They are only allowed to sniff common areas, like the lobby and the hallways of each floor.

And even if the dog pick's something up, that isn't enough to go to the police to investigate, I think. It would take a lot more than that to get a warrant to enter the unit.

what is the point of that. who stashed their drugs in the common area? :badpokerface:

[SumAznGuy]

what is the point of that. who stashed their drugs in the common area? :badpokerface:

Yup. Very curious to see what happens after the sniffer dog goes through the building.

[IMASA]

what is the point of that. who stashed their drugs in the common area? :badpokerface:

In the elevator in our building, we found 10+ bottles (empties and some half full/full) of booze stashed in the shelf that houses the light fixtures. I guess someone wanted to drink without their SO finding out. Now the council president keeps checking weekly and throws out whatever bottles he finds.

[rageguy]

Same thing with my apartment too, where the strata council approved a dog sweep. Here is the email. Notice that they also say that smoking weed within your unit is also a violation.

To All Owners and Residents

Please be advised that the Strata Council has been in receipt of numerous and ongoing complaints in regards to Marijuana smoking in the building. The Council has agreed to contract a K9 unit to perform random sweeps within the building to seek out offenders. Residents who are found to be smoking marijuana within their units may be fined in accordance with Strata’s Bylaws.

Residents who have a medical condition and have not yet sent in a Medical Permit are asked to submit one to (redacted) ASAP to avoid any fines.

We thank you for your attention pertaining to the above. Should you have any questions, please contact the undersigned.

[white rocket]

Blazers are gonna blaze. I still don't see how this would deter anyone unless you are clearly seen on a surveillance video doing so. If a dog smells the door of a unit and singles it out does the Strata now have probable cause to enter? Even with notice? I get that weed smoke is troublesome for strata's and those who do not partake and the smell would be annoying to those same people but how does one go about enforcing it? The rules are going to get a lot tighter when it becomes legal next year so perhaps these are just the preliminary steps that are being taken.

Dealers may stash product in the lobby and have their customers wait for someone to enter to gain access and then pick up their purchase in the agreed spot. Perhaps it leaves a gap from drop off to pick up and thus preventing a trafficking charge conviction.

[EmperorIS]

I"d be more concern about Airbnb and whore house micros than someone smoking a joint. These strata run by old aunties soccer moms or something?

[Hondaracer]

Same thing with my apartment too, where the strata council approved a dog sweep. Here is the email. Notice that they also say that smoking weed within your unit is also a violation.

Once weed is legal i dont think stratas are going to have a leg to stand on in enforcement of weed smoke.

[CivicBlues]

Tobacco and Pets are legal. Doesn't stop Stratas from banning either of those

[mdnx]

I"d be more concern about Airbnb and whore house micros than someone smoking a joint. These strata run by old aunties soccer moms or something?

:duh: this should be the more of a concern.

Everyone gets their panties in a knot over someone smoking pot inside their dwelling but somehow giving your keys to random strangers every week (Airbnb) is less of a concern to many over pot.

[Hondaracer]

Tobacco and Pets are legal. Doesn't stop Stratas from banning either of those

If you own your unit however, there isn't very much recourse you can take to stop it. Pets are one thing because they are coming and going through common areas, parkades, etc

Besides getting fined over and over again it's going to be a hell of a court battle to ever take actual action on it.

Do buildings actually have a complete smoking ban even inside a residents unit? Only lived in one apartment building but I don't ever recall seeing an outright ban on smoking in most buildings

[Inaii]

Do buildings actually have a complete smoking ban even inside a residents unit? Only lived in one apartment building but I don't ever recall seeing an outright ban on smoking in most buildings

My mom's building requires all smokers to be on their patio, there is no smoking inside the units at all. She owns the suite, but would be fined something like $1500 if she was found to be breaking the strata rule.

[Hondaracer]

I may be wrong but almost certain strata doesn't have the power to dish out fines like that.

[Inaii]

I don't remember the exact number, I just remember it was really ridiculous.

[winson604]

I may be wrong but almost certain strata doesn't have the power to dish out fines like that.

I think power yes but balls to do it no.

[Expresso]

My mom's building requires all smokers to be on their patio, there is no smoking inside the units at all. She owns the suite, but would be fined something like $1500 if she was found to be breaking the strata rule.

Some buildings it's the opposite with the proximity to neighbors smoke inevitably ends up inside if you have your windows open.

[Hondaracer]

Some buildings it's the opposite with the proximity to neighbors smoke inevitably ends up inside if you have your windows open.

usually that way, as most patios etc are considered common or semi common property.

In my experience as a dope smoker, seems like people around me had more of a problem smoking on the balcony than inside the unit because way more people smell it outside where their windows are open, intake vents etc. etc. than inside where the smell is somewhat dispersed. Cigs though just reak forever once you start smoking inside

[Mikoyan]

I thought most buildings prohibit smoking in the common areas because of the TCA. Plus all the complaints about butts being thrown down from the higher floors.

"The B.C. Tobacco Control Act (TCA) bans smoking in common areas of condominiums and within six metres of a doorway, window or air intake of common areas."

Once pot's legal, my assumption is they'll just place it under similar rules as to where you can smoke it.

[Great68]

. If a dog smells the door of a unit and singles it out does the Strata now have probable cause to enter?

No.

Stratas aren't police.

A strata can only ever enter in case of an emergency.

[SumAznGuy]

No.

Stratas aren't police.

A strata can only ever enter in case of an emergency.

Or giving the units enough notice to "check smoke detectors" once a year.

[hchang]

If i was paying strata fee's id be fucking choked money is going towards this shit

If I was a taxpayer I'd be choked if money was....

Oh wait

:troll:

[Mr.HappySilp]

Blazers are gonna blaze. I still don't see how this would deter anyone unless you are clearly seen on a surveillance video doing so. If a dog smells the door of a unit and singles it out does the Strata now have probable cause to enter? Even with notice? I get that weed smoke is troublesome for strata's and those who do not partake and the smell would be annoying to those same people but how does one go about enforcing it? The rules are going to get a lot tighter when it becomes legal next year so perhaps these are just the preliminary steps that are being taken.

Dealers may stash product in the lobby and have their customers wait for someone to enter to gain access and then pick up their purchase in the agreed spot. Perhaps it leaves a gap from drop off to pick up and thus preventing a trafficking charge conviction.

Not likely. Is like smoking, you aren't allow to smoke inside your unit even the balcony. At least in my apartment. I suspect it the same rules for weed. How do they do it was your unit that does it? I have no idea but during my stratas meeting people are able to pinpoint which floor and even have a good educational guess which unit is smoking in their balcony (maybe the direction of the smoke or something).

How do I know this? One of the girls I know that lives on the higher floor always smokes in her balcony and during the meeting it was her floor and the direction her balcony was facing. There are people who are super picky and will do anything they can to find out these stuff. It wouldn't be fun if you are smoking your weed and someone calls 911 and enter your unit for whatever reason with the building manager. Luckily the people around my floor are 2 old couples, a daughter and her mom and a few single females. I doubt they smoke or do drugs.

[Mr.HappySilp]

If you own your unit however, there isn't very much recourse you can take to stop it. Pets are one thing because they are coming and going through common areas, parkades, etc

Besides getting fined over and over again it's going to be a hell of a court battle to ever take actual action on it.

Do buildings actually have a complete smoking ban even inside a residents unit? Only lived in one apartment building but I don't ever recall seeing an outright ban on smoking in most buildings


My building bans smoking even insuite and balcony. Basically is for fire protection. There is also smoke detectors insuite and you are just unplug them (is a central system if you try to uplug it it will go off). Not sure if it will go off due to cigarettes or weeds but it does go off due to smoke from cooking and other things like gas leak.

[Ch28]

Or giving the units enough notice to "check smoke detectors" once a year.

Not sure about you guys, but it's usually someone from the fire department that comes in to check and no strata council member has ever been present

[Nocardia]

I have a friend who owns in that same building....crazy how big of a deal this has become.

Although he rented to someone in cash...and somehow a "locksmith" destroyed the door. Shame really.

[azncreationz]

Not sure about you guys, but it's usually someone from the fire department that comes in to check and no strata council member has ever been present

Depends on your building or Property Manager. In my building, the resident care-taker accompanies the Fire Alarm Technician into every suite. I've also tagged along in some cases as well, since I'm a strata council member.

As for the smoking issue, we have a smoke-free building and have advised tenants to smoke outside at the sidewalk. Obviously, not everyone is going to agree to this, and they will only get sent a warning letter and/or fine if someone complains.

[westopher]

Thats pretty fucked. Just some fucking crazy strata council member thinking they are saving the world one stupid decision at a time. I don't really touch drugs anymore, weed or anything, but I'd be rattled if someone tried to pull that shit in my building. I mean, even people smoking around or on the balcony, weed, or cigarettes, its gonna get in my unit, but whatever. Be a decent neighbour and turn the other cheek unless its something absolutely ridiculous. Too many condo owners act like the whole fucking building should be based around their likes/dislikes.

[geeknerd]

I was going to email the manager today asking what lead to this and what results he expects but they put a notice up cancelling the search. I guess enough people have put some sense in to the manager. Or maybe he read this thread lol.

[BIC_BAWS]

LOL I had a suspecting feeling that this was where my buddy lives. Two posts and one message in, yep, confirmed. Granted, there's a terrible stench on weed in the elevator..

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[SkinnyPupp]

On one hand, people should let others do whatever they want as long as it's not affecting others in a negative way.

On the other, if you are smoking weed in the elevator, that is definitely affecting others in a negative way.

[winson604]

To be clear though is it a stench of weed that lingers in the elevator as in someone is blazing in there or is it a complaint that a lot of people blaze so their smells lingers in there long enough that the next person to get on the elevator smells it from the people who were just in there? I guess we may not know, some people are way more sensitive to smell as well.

[geeknerd]

I highly doubt people are smoking weed in the elevator. However, I can smell when someone who has weed on their body enters the elevator and obviously if someone has just smoked some. I havent experienced this in this building yet but at my past building, i have.

It's no secret smells linger and will remain trapped in an elevator. Cigarettes, mcdonalds, churchs, pizza, subway all have a distinct smell and I can usually tell if it was in the elevator recently lol.

One elevator does stink like shit but its because they put a fucking piece of carpet since the building opened (for the 'moving elevator') and haven't done shit but spray febreeze to "clean" it.

[white rocket]

This issue came up on CBC news this morning on my way in to work. Clearly it's an issue big enough to warrant a news article on CBC. I caught drips and drabs from it but it sounds like this will become a trend in the Lower Mainland. K9 units in common areas and in-unit inspections with the appropriate notice given are being pushed to become the norm.

Curious if this stems from the upcoming legalization of marijuana as people have been blazing in strata's for decades yet this inspection enforcement seems new. It can't be that now, all of a sudden, the people are rising up and complaining.

[westopher]

I literally have nothing to hide, but if anyone other than a cop for a fire official said that they were going to inspect my unit, I'd tell them to go fuck their dad.

[white rocket]

^^^Imagine if that persons dad just died of cancer or some shit. Haha! When I start thinking about "mama" jokes or bringing parents into my semi-sarcastic somewhat cocky rhetoric that always crosses my mind. Not sure if I could recover from that and still come out on top of that conversation. Lol!

I digress. It would seem that the line between tenancy rights/privacy and the strata/building owner's power is pretty thin with a constant push/pull battle. Curious if laws and rulings change over the years and get updated based on the changes within society. Makes me forever grateful to be in a detached home. I wouldn't move into strata even if I was a fucking refugee.

[Mr.HappySilp]

I literally have nothing to hide, but if anyone other than a cop for a fire official said that they were going to inspect my unit, I'd tell them to go fuck their dad.

If the purchase an apartment then I suggest you read the fine prints and attend all strata meetings and voting coz those issues are stated in the fine prints and gets voted in. Don't like it, get a house then.

[EmperorIS]

Are people actually recklessly blazing it up in their units that warrants such a response from their neighbours/strata?

I mean, if your strata is putting up this much of a fuss, and you really have to blaze/smoke, can't you just turn on the vent or get an air purifier? I don't think strata would vote in something just because they want to fuck with blazers?

If its to fight against grow-ops/drug houses, then I totally agree.

[murd0c]

this is the reason why I moved out to Mission and bought a house, I can do what ever the fuck I want and don't have to worry about someone that lives 3' away from me bitching cause I'm smoking one on my back deck. Ya Mission is far out but a 2500sqft house on1/4 acre lot with tons of tree's and privacy makes it all worth it!

[westopher]

If the purchase an apartment then I suggest you read the fine prints and attend all strata meetings and voting coz those issues are stated in the fine prints and gets voted in. Don't like it, get a house then.

I've read my strata agreements and under no circumstances does it say are they allowed private inspections to sniff my fucking condo for drugs.

[geeknerd]

I wonder if this thread was the cause of CBC reporting :)

anyways, heres an article from straight.com written today.

https://www.straight.com/news/957261/sniffer-dogs-deployed-find-illicit-drugs-vancouver-apartment-buildings

For many years, sniffer dogs have been detecting illicit drug labs in housing complexes around the world.

It's also has become a hot legal issue in the super-litigious United States.

So it shouldn't come as a surprise that canines are doing this work in Vancouver.

This morning, CBC Radio News has reported that more sniffer dogs are being deployed by Vancouver-area landlords in public areas of buildings.

The station quoted Margrett Donley, the long-time director of administration at Canadian K9 Detection Security and Investigations Ltd.

Canadian K9 Group's website offers a drug-sniffing dog service for people "who may be concerned with drug use in their homes".

It's not the first time this issue has been covered in the local media. As far back as 2006, then Vancouver Sun reporter Nicholas Read wrote about how drug-sniffing dogs were being used to warn landlords of illicit operations in their buildings..

Many years ago, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that police dogs cannot do random drug searches in public places.

However, that decision didn't apply to private-sector companies that own sniffer dogs.

More recently in 2013, Canada's highest court clarified the rules in the use of sniffer dogs. It ruled that it's legal for police to use these canines in warrantless searches if there's a "reasonable suspicion based on objective, ascertainable facts" that criminal activity might be occurring.


I guess a private sector sniffer dogs sole purpose is to serve as a loophole for the police to get the "objective, ascertainable facts" requirement to use their own K9s.

[TouringTeg]

Drug-sniffing dogs are being used by Vancouver landlords to keep buildings free of narcotics - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/drug-sniffing-dogs-are-being-used-by-vancouver-landlords-to-keep-buildings-free-of-narcotics-1.4267755)

[westopher]

I can understand as a landlord, even though it seems super excessive.

[Blueboy222]

:troll:

[Presto]

Is there a way to troll these drug-sniffing operations? I'm thinking some kinda product that contains the chemicals that dogs are detecting, and just spray that shit everywhere. Especially, on the doors of overreaching strata members.

[SumAznGuy]

Is there a way to troll these drug-sniffing operations? I'm thinking some kinda product that contains the chemicals that dogs are detecting, and just spray that shit everywhere. Especially, on the doors of overreaching strata members.

LOL, I was just thinking the same thing. Take some weed, and wipe it on the door handles of strata members or people you don't like.

On a serious note, it only affects those people who are smoking the illegal stuff. Any Joe can go to a doctor and ask for a doctors note because of anxiety, headaches, back pain etc. Some dispenceries even have in house doctors.

[underscore]

Tobacco and Pets are legal. Doesn't stop Stratas from banning either of those

Legal so long as you're not interfering with other peoples comfort and quality of life. Smoke has a way of finding its way everywhere, and people with allergies deserve to live someplace too.

If you own your unit however, there isn't very much recourse you can take to stop it. Pets are one thing because they are coming and going through common areas, parkades, etc

Besides getting fined over and over again it's going to be a hell of a court battle to ever take actual action on it.

Do buildings actually have a complete smoking ban even inside a residents unit? Only lived in one apartment building but I don't ever recall seeing an outright ban on smoking in most buildings

Unless you can keep the smoke contained to your unit (good luck) yes they can ban it. The guy that lived next to my grandparents smoked a shitload in his unit and it made theirs stink of cigarettes too, as well as the hallway probably 100ft in either direction. Nobody should be forced to inhale secondhand smoke just because some lazy fuck can't walk outside.

I can understand as a landlord, even though it seems super excessive.

Considering how many people have had their properties completely ruined by grow ops and the like it doesn't seem that excessive (especially the ones that have had fires etc). A while back some idiot making BHO blew up an apartment (I think in Toronto?). Smoking inside will also completely trash a place.

[Hondaracer]

LOL, I was just thinking the same thing. Take some weed, and wipe it on the door handles of strata members or people you don't like.

On a serious note, it only affects those people who are smoking the illegal stuff. Any Joe can go to a doctor and ask for a doctors note because of anxiety, headaches, back pain etc. Some dispenceries even have in house doctors.

the majority of those "licences" are all BS though and just a way to buy weed, not get the cops off your back.

[westopher]

Legal so long as you're not interfering with other peoples comfort and quality of life. Smoke has a way of finding its way everywhere, and people with allergies deserve to live someplace too.



Unless you can keep the smoke contained to your unit (good luck) yes they can ban it. The guy that lived next to my grandparents smoked a shitload in his unit and it made theirs stink of cigarettes too, as well as the hallway probably 100ft in either direction. Nobody should be forced to inhale secondhand smoke just because some lazy fuck can't walk outside.



Considering how many people have had their properties completely ruined by grow ops and the like it doesn't seem that excessive (especially the ones that have had fires etc). A while back some idiot making BHO blew up an apartment (I think in Toronto?). Smoking inside will also completely trash a place.

The thing is, you don't need a private narc sniffing dog to notice a grow op. Anyone with a nose or eyes can spot it. That's an actual issue that will be taken care of by the authorities, or at least I hope. Some malinois isn't going to be the difference there.

[underscore]

The thing is, you don't need a private narc sniffing dog to notice a grow op. Anyone with a nose or eyes can spot it. That's an actual issue that will be taken care of by the authorities, or at least I hope. Some malinois isn't going to be the difference there.

True, but I would think a trained dog would be considered more solid evidence f they're trying to document something.

There's also the possibility some nutbar who lives in the complex/building/whatever hired them. One of my idiot neighbours called bylaw because they don't like the look of the car I was going to use for the BC Gambler 500 so I could see someone doing something like this.

[meme405]

Honestly people saying as with other things, "once weed becomes legal", "whats the big deal with weed".

Listen here motherfucker IT'S STILL ILLEGAL as of today. So you have no fucking leg to stand on.

It's like those fucking idiots running dispensaries with no legal documents, and then when the police tell them to cease operations they continue to do the same illegal crap, under the guise of "it's going to be legal soon". Then they cry and go to the media pleading their case, when the police bust in and arrest them.

I personally don't care if you smoke weed, and I wish our government would just legalize the shit as quickly as possible, just so the pot smokers can get over feeling like rebels and thinking they are so cool that they can just disregard the law. But when you try to justify your currently still illegal activities, you paint yourself as a moron.

[Hondaracer]

Breh seems like you need ta chill and smoke one

[Mr.HappySilp]

Don't care what you do in your suite but if the smoke/smell gets out and I can smell it from my unit/common area then that's a problem.

[Ch28]

Breh seems like you need ta chill and smoke one

He's absolutely correct, though.

[Hondaracer]

It's the biggest grey area there's areguableybever been in terms of police enforcement. Everyone knows it's "illegal" however the attitude towards it could not be more lax. You can smoke a joint in front of a cop and they aren't going to do a thing. You can be found with amounts of weed on you and you're not going to get charges and probably not even a ticket because it's not worth the officers time to enforce.

Its illegal but to sit there with your face scrunched up because you smell weed from time to time isn't going to get you very far. If police aren't willing to enforce laws when they are right in front of them, no one is going to take the time to investigate somone smoking in their own property, let alone a property someone is renting etc.

[CivicBlues]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't an argument about the legality or illegality of Marijuana. Rather, how certain Strata corps' bylaws make it illegal to smoke anything within interior spaces. Stratas aren't going to call the cops to come break down your door and arrest you, they can only fine you.

Just like it's perfectly legal to drink alcohol if you're over 19, but if you do so on the beach it will constitute a bylaw infraction. One falls under the Criminal Code of Canada (and perhaps Provincial liquor laws), the other is just a municipal bylaw.

[murd0c]

I don't understand how someone can own/live somewhere but still be told what they can/cannot do. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with the before but man I would get pissed off if I bought a place and was told I can't smoke a J or use a propane bbq on my patio.

[white rocket]

Yes, we all know it is illegal but I have to guess that it is the smell of smoke that is the bothersome issue and not dealers/grow shows/labs and the illegalities that go along with it. If no one could smell it then it wouldn't bother anyone and there wouldn't be an issue. Same as cigs. I wouldn't want the building I'm living in to reek like weed or cigs even though I partake(privately) so I get where people are coming from. The transparent residents that have nothing to hide and do not partake really get the short end of the stick as their lives are now disrupted because of the actions of others. But, like any strata residence, if don't like the rules then buy a detached fee-simple home.

[CivicBlues]

I don't understand how someone can own/live somewhere but still be told what they can/cannot do. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with the before but man I would get pissed off if I bought a place and was told I can't smoke a J or use a propane bbq on my patio.

Thanks, but we heard you the first time:thumbs:

I'd wager a guess that 90% of us here don't live in Mission or Ladner. Nor want to.

[Hondaracer]

ffs... wrote a big post about the legalities VS strata and then i hit back... :/

[Dragon-88]

I live in a newer condo built 2 years ago. Our last AGM just changed from being able to smoke on balconies to no smoking on common properties, which also include your balcony. Now the thing is, Strata cant do shit unless there's photo or video proof of your infraction. which is almost impossible as if someone is smoking under you, you wouldn't be able to prove who's smoking. So its a really hard battle. Then there also the option that if you're a smoker that you just smoke with the balcony door open while you're standing inside the building and blowing outside, you;re technically smoking on your own private property.. Again a hard battle to fight that one.

If you dont like smoke the easiest thing to do is just close your windows and door for the next 5-10 mins and then open them again. That would be the best prevention, and before people all go complaining about you have rights and all that.. Remember you just moved into a shared property, so no you wont win all your fights.. Hell I dont like the smell of some ethnic food, but I can't go and get those food banned, so I just close my windows and doors.. No big deal..

Sometimes you just need to adapt to the condo lifestyle, and everything that comes with it.

[Hondaracer]

That was kind of the jist of my post as it's almost impossible to pinpoint somone who is smoking inside their unit so a dog unit smelling around is nothing more than a witch hunt, what are you going to do? post the names and units of suspected smokers?

Without proper proof you cant even issue a fine. A warning maybe but theres no way you can fine someone for smoking inside unless you had actual proof. So therein is the problem i have with the dogs as it's a complete waste of time and money by the strata.

personally i'd have way more of a problem with loud noisey neighbors than the occasional pot smoker. And at least noise complaints can be substantiated

[underscore]

If you dont like smoke the easiest thing to do is just close your windows and door for the next 5-10 mins and then open them again. That would be the best prevention, and before people all go complaining about you have rights and all that.. Remember you just moved into a shared property, so no you wont win all your fights.. Hell I dont like the smell of some ethnic food, but I can't go and get those food banned, so I just close my windows and doors.. No big deal..

Smoke is a bit different though, secondhand curry isn't a scientifically-verified health hazard.

[meme405]

It's the biggest grey area there's areguableybever been in terms of police enforcement. Everyone knows it's "illegal" however the attitude towards it could not be more lax. You can smoke a joint in front of a cop and they aren't going to do a thing. You can be found with amounts of weed on you and you're not going to get charges and probably not even a ticket because it's not worth the officers time to enforce.

Its illegal but to sit there with your face scrunched up because you smell weed from time to time isn't going to get you very far. If police aren't willing to enforce laws when they are right in front of them, no one is going to take the time to investigate somone smoking in their own property, let alone a property someone is renting etc.

You say this, but then the news says stuff like this:

B.C. marijuana shops illegal say feds, as RCMP crackdown - British Columbia - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/rcmp-marijuana-raid-1.3348892)

It's this type of attitude that makes non users look at people who sell and consume pot and think you're all retarded.

The RCMP issue a direct notice, "Hey it's not legal yet, you better stop selling it out of your store", and the shop owner is like "yeah fuck you, I'll keep doing it, cause Ottawa is working on making it legal", and "I voted for it to be legal in the last election"

Then the guy gets his shop raided and stomped out, arrested, charged, and then runs to the media about how he was so wronged, "I was just a young entrepreneur, trying to make my way in this world. How could the police do this to me".

Well you see you little fuck tard, you're not an entrepreneur you're a criminal.


On a similar note, you guys laugh and say: "haha strata is so stupid, they pass bylaws like no smoking on your balcony, but how the fuck would they know who it is."

And then your strata says: "haha we brought in dogs and they will tell us who is smoking", and now you guys come and complain about it, "this invades my privacy". Lol. No it doesn't you're just salty your strata is not as stupid as you think.

And then you go back on the defense, well I own this place, so I can do what I want. Sure, yeah. That will fly when the strata calls the cops, or fines you until you file for bankruptcy. We had a resident like some of you it one of our buildings, he kept throwing trash that wasnt allowed in the bins. They fined him like 30 times, cops were called, went to court he lost, then he said fuck you, got fined like 15 more times. Then eventually he realized the strata would just laugh at him and all the bank they were making. So he sold his place and fucked off.

Most of you are probably renters too, I hope your strata tells your landlord, cause I know for sure all my tenancy papers say you can't smoke anywhere on the property, that includes your balcony, and common property of the building. AKA you have to go all the way to sidewalk if you live in an apartment. This is irrelevant to what the bylaws say.

[320icar]

Don't care what you do in your suite but if the smoke/smell gets out and I can smell it from my unit/common area then that's a problem.

Thank you. I don't smoke and I don't care if other people do, but I hate the smell. Always have. In my old apartment building I had a huge problem on my floor where the smells were so powerful it would get through the fire doors and into my own apartment, it was super frustrating. Got to the point where I'd hear other tenants to into the hallways and scream "STOP SMOKING POT YOU FUCKHEADS" and I completely agreed

[CivicBlues]

People, just follow 2 simple rules when it comes to communal living:

1) Don't be an asshole.
2) Don't live like a fucking pig.

Everyone's happy. I doubt any of this is an issue in more civic minded communities like Japan or Switzerland.

[nsmb]

People, just follow 2 simple rules when it comes to communal living:

1) Don't be an asshole.
2) Don't live like a fucking pig.



1) Don't be an asshole. - example, don't burn incense on your patio for over an hour every night...BabyRage

[Ch28]

People, just follow 2 simple rules when it comes to communal living:

1) Don't be an asshole.
2) Don't live like a fucking pig.

Everyone's happy. I doubt any of this is an issue in more civic minded communities like Japan or Switzerland.

We live in a pet friendly building and it absolutely amazes me how fucking lazy some dog owners are. We have a dog and take him out for regular walks and always pick up after him. He's had instances where he pooped in the lobby or parkage, and we always went back to pick it up and wipe it down right after. There are so many cases where people leave their dog's poo and pee in the hallway and don't bother cleaning it up.

It got so bad during the fall/winter time (rained a lot) so some fucking idiots decided it was fair game to walk their dog in the parkage and have them shit and piss everywhere. Strata had to put up so many notices about just how fucking unsanitary and disgusting that it.

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't understand how someone can own/live somewhere but still be told what they can/cannot do. Thankfully I haven't had to deal with the before but man I would get pissed off if I bought a place and was told I can't smoke a J or use a propane bbq on my patio.
If you own property as part of a strata, your life is basically controlled by whoever is the cuntiest person there.

IMO it's better to rent if your only other choice is to deal with that. That way if you have issues with a cunty landlord or strata, you can just leave relatively easily. Eventually you'll find a nice spot.

[MarkyMark]

I'm kind of torn on this one because I don't like telling other people that to do, but I'd fucking hate it if I lived next to someone who smoked like a chimney and I had to keep my windows closed all the time because they are always on their deck lighting up. I'm a pretty easy going guy, so if it's once in awhile someone is having a party and making noise, who cares, but when something is bothering me multiple times a day there's going to be a problem.

[Mr.C]

I'm kind of torn on this one because I don't like telling other people that to do, but I'd fucking hate it if I lived next to someone who smoked like a chimney and I had to keep my windows closed all the time because they are always on their deck lighting up. I'm a pretty easy going guy, so if it's once in awhile someone is having a party and making noise, who cares, but when something is bothering me multiple times a day there's going to be a problem.

I'd just run a fan 24/7 pointed at their place. Sure, it would cost me a little money, but they'd eventually get the hint.

[twitchyzero]

are there anything like air purifiers that help with the smell?
I don't hate the smell but I also haven't had to deal with it 24/7
seems like basic common courtesy to make an effort to reduce the smell for co-habitants living 10 ft away

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

air filters and o3 generators (use at own discretion).