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I just got a speeding ticket today... FML
$196 fine amount.. On marine drive.. So choked, I didn't even think I was speeding, I was going at a nice leisurely pace, but alas.
Has anyone fought a ticket before?
I want to get a lawyer because I don't want the points on my license.
Can someone recommend a lawyer? And do you know how much it would cost?
I do not want to fight the ticket myself.
Thanks
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I found two lawyers that deal with defending tickets (off google) and i'll update the thread if anyone is curious once I find out more information.
I'm worried about my record long term and the ICBC premiums if you get too many points on your license.
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Pay the fine, take the points, lesson learn and move on.
No one on RS is going to help you avoid paying a fine you when you clearly are in the wrong.
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09-02-2017, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp  Pay the fine, take the points, lesson learn and move on.
No one on RS is going to help you avoid paying a fine you when you clearly are in the wrong. | Good ol' Revscene.
Thanks for your advice, but hopefully someone on RS may help point me in the right direction.
If anyone knows a good lawyer or has experience I would be eager to hear from you.
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09-02-2017, 08:48 AM
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This is not the US - you do not need, and there is no value, to having a lawyer come with you to traffic court. The instructions are on the back of the ticket on how to dispute a ticket. And it's a douche move to waste the resources and time of the court for something you obviously did and have little to no chance of beating.
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09-02-2017, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lowside67 This is not the US - you do not need, and there is no value, to having a lawyer come with you to traffic court. The instructions are on the back of the ticket on how to dispute a ticket. And it's a douche move to waste the resources and time of the court for something you obviously did and have little to no chance of beating.
-Mark | Do you know anyone who has went to court to fight a ticket and lost? I wasn't aware it is a lost cause...
When you have points on your record, ICBC premiums can go up, there are other hidden costs.
Also, if you pay for the ticket, it stays on your record forever. To say there are is no value in fighting it, is simply not true.
And if I got a lawyer, I wouldn't go to the court, that's what i'm paying the lawyer for. I wouldn't have time to fight it.
I'm still looking for recommendations or experience in the matter. Conjecture is nice to play around with on the internet, but I would prefer actual experience, but I guess this is the internet and RS, so I should expect a certain level of low jabs at my request.
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09-02-2017, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter I just got a speeding ticket today... FML
$196 fine amount.. On marine drive.. So choked, I didn't even think I was speeding, I was going at a nice leisurely pace, but alas. | You just admitted that you didn't THINK you were speeding which is meaningless in court. What you think has nothing to do with what was done. If the cop has evidence of you speeding like a laser reading, you'll lose.
You also said 'nice leisurely pace'. What does that even mean? In court, they're all gonna laugh at you.
Cops always set up shop on Marine Drive because people speed through it all the time. How is your circumstance any different?
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09-02-2017, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GS8 You just admitted that you didn't THINK you were speeding which is meaningless in court. What you think has nothing to do with what was done. If the cop has evidence of you speeding like a laser reading, you'll lose.
You also said 'nice leisurely pace'. What does that even mean? In court, they're all gonna laugh at you.
Cops always set up shop on Marine Drive because people speed through it all the time. How is your circumstance any different?
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But, I didn't admit anything. I simply said, I didn't think I was speeding. ie. I wasn't aware I was speeding.
This is why I wanted information about a lawyer or other peoples experiences. I'm not saying I'll win the case, but I wouldn't mind some peoples experiences if they had any.
I know RS can be a hostile place, but it can also be very resourceful. I don't mind taking some heat, but it isn't wrong for to exhaust all of my options.
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09-02-2017, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter FML
So choked, I didn't even think I was speeding, I was going at a nice leisurely pace, but alas.
want to get a lawyer because I don't want the points on my license.
I do not want to fight the ticket myself.
| snowflake post of the year...just read what you wrote and you'll understand why you're getting flack
if money's tight, you can have it reduced at court...but sounds like you're more worried about a bad mark and insurance premiums
i'm no saint...probably speeding half of the time...but dozen years in, not a single ticket. IMO if you get hit doing the deed, pay up.
and realize Marine Dr. is a classic fishing hole
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09-02-2017, 09:57 AM
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Yeah, I usually know where most of the speed traps are, but I have never seen one just past boundary going east before.
I contacted two lawyers that deal in this sort of thing. I just googled them, so hopefully they're good.
I'll update the thread if anyone cares, once I know more.
Thanks anyways.
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09-02-2017, 10:17 AM
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RS, so harsh, Gulolol. You'd think someone spelt something wrong or posted something with grammatical errors in every sentence.
When it comes down to it, most of the *******s who posted negative replies probably do way more shittier stuff without the rest of us really knowing (shady business deals, ripping off others, lying, etc.) - but you know, someone else's shit always smells worse.
Anyway, points don't affect insurance until it reaches five penalty points. Your speeding ticket most likely comes with three penalty points. Stay out of trouble for a year and that three points will disappear. I also believe the points are based on your birthdate. Not the actual birthdate, but three months before. All this is from memory. You can phone ICBC to find out what it is exactly. As for your driving abstract, I believe that goes back five years?
If you dispute the ticket, your court date may be a year or more down the line. There are ways to fight your speeding ticket. I've done it. Many times. Yes, you fokkers, I disputed a ticket (oh no, we have a bad ass over here).
I used this web site in the past - it's super old, but still informative. I haven't disputed a speeding ticket in over ten years, btw.......... and I still speed here and there. Knock on wood. FYST - Fight Your Speeding Tickets Page
And no, don't pm me with tips on how to...............
And before I go on about the " holier than thou," replies, I've been guilty of that myself, so......... "god bless."
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp Pay the fine, take the points, lesson learn and move on.
No one on RS is going to help you avoid paying a fine you when you clearly are in the wrong. | Bitch.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Do you know anyone who has went to court to fight a ticket and lost? I wasn't aware it is a lost cause...
When you have points on your record, ICBC premiums can go up, there are other hidden costs.
Also, if you pay for the ticket, it stays on your record forever. To say there are is no value in fighting it, is simply not true. | Yes, lots. Pretty much if the cop shows up, you've lost
Only after 5 points. And not sure what the other hidden costs are, care to elaborate?
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To be honest, it's not even worth your time/money to even get a lawyer involved.
You weren't aware you were "speeding", then why would the cop pull over you over and hand you a ticket. They aren't going to hand you a ticket without legitimate evidence such as a laser reading. E.g. If you are roadstar and clean record for many years, doubt one ticket will ruin your premiums. I've had one ticket ever in my life, premiums weren't affected, although not sure how the points systems work currently with ICBC.
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09-02-2017, 10:53 AM
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If you're worried about points, then I'm sure you've got caught for doing something else before. I would seriously think about the way your driving if that's the case.
Going to a judge about your concern about the points, you better have a good reason for him/her to remove them.
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09-02-2017, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter And if I got a lawyer, I wouldn't go to the court, that's what i'm paying the lawyer for. I wouldn't have time to fight it. | You still need to attend. Your lawyer can plead not guilty on your behalf but cannot testify on your behalf (this is the part where I presume you would lie and say you weren't speeding), so if you don't attend, you cripple your own defense.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Do you know anyone who has went to court to fight a ticket and lost? I wasn't aware it is a lost cause...
When you have points on your record, ICBC premiums can go up, there are other hidden costs.
Also, if you pay for the ticket, it stays on your record forever. To say there are is no value in fighting it, is simply not true. | You only get dinged with point premiums if you get four or more points. Driver Penalty Point Premium
It also doesn't affect your insurance premiums, just serves as a one time payment punishment. If this is your first ticket with points attached this year, you wont get hit with any extra fines.
Points also go away after five years and your premium is based on a twelve month period, not that five year total. Driver Penalty Point Premium
Keep in mind traffic court isn't the same as civil or criminal court. If you wish to fight the ticket, that's your right. You may get lucky and the officer may not show up. You may also get lucky and work a deal out with the cop. Some officers are willing to negotiate the ticket prior to entering the session. I've had luck with that before (I didn't dispute the ticket, just was hoping to strike a plea deal for a lesser charge if I didn't dispute another part of the ticket.)
However, should you decide to say you're innocent, whether you have a lawyer or not, you'll need some proof that you weren't speeding. Some GPS equipped dash cams are accepted as is security footage from outside that area, provided it's full frame and you can calculate the speed based on meters traveled per second with it.
If you're going with the "I don't believe I was speeding" defense, you're not going to win. Plain and simple.
Keep in mind I'm not going for a "holier than thou" attitude here. I'm in no position to be that person. Case in point, in my younger days I was given an entire page ticket full of traffic violations, along with another full page written on a warning ticket. All during one stop on the highway. Thankfully this was before some of the more stricter rules came into effect because otherwise I likely would have lost my license for a year  | |
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I always used cruise control on Marine (and any other roads notorious for speed traps) so I would avoid situations like this.
No tickets in 18 years of driving, so yay.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Do you know anyone who has went to court to fight a ticket and lost? I wasn't aware it is a lost cause...
When you have points on your record, ICBC premiums can go up, there are other hidden costs.
Also, if you pay for the ticket, it stays on your record forever. To say there are is no value in fighting it, is simply not true.
And if I got a lawyer, I wouldn't go to the court, that's what i'm paying the lawyer for. I wouldn't have time to fight it.
I'm still looking for recommendations or experience in the matter. Conjecture is nice to play around with on the internet, but I would prefer actual experience, but I guess this is the internet and RS, so I should expect a certain level of low jabs at my request. |
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moral of the story is dont cheap out on a laser blocker & radar system.
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Originally Posted by Lomac Keep in mind I'm not going for a "holier than thou" attitude here. I'm in no position to be that person. Case in point, in my younger days I was given an entire page ticket full of traffic violations, along with another full page written on a warning ticket. All during one stop on the highway. Thankfully this was before some of the more stricter rules came into effect because otherwise I likely would have lost my license for a year | Oh, oh, oh........... can this be like the scene from Jaws, when they start showing each other their scars?
In my younger days, when they were contemplating introducing the points system in a trial run of some kind. I racked up points in the high twenties, maybe more within a month or so. Got letters from the superintendent of motor vehicles to attend defensive driving courses. They were actually pretty good, from the times I was actually awake - good thing they didn't have quizes. I was like dude in Tokyo Drift, 'cept I had nunchucks instead of tire iron. Ah, young and stupid, indeed.
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Someone is ballin to afford a lawyer for $200 ticket...
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if OP insisted getting a lawyer
why don't we just let him waste the time and money to see how
this situation goes.....
we are just the readers.....
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curious as to what OP's speed was clocked at vs speed limit on the area
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IMO the only winner in this situation will be the lawyer you decide to go with.
It's a waste of everyone's time and money, except the lawyer, who is getting paid for it. The amount will definitely exceed the cost of the ticket and any other costs you think you are paying from this case.
I'm actually not even sure what or how you are fighting this? Are you planning to say "I'm pretty sure I wasn't speeding" and ... then see what they say?
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