[tiger_handheld]

has anyone noticed gas is no longer in the low 130's?

Harvey was a month or so ago - so what gives now?

everywhere it's low 140's to mid 140's now...

[Teriyaki]

Same story as its always been. Because they can.

[pastarocket]

Maybe Horgan decided to slide in an increase in the provincial tax on gas to make up for the stupid decision to eliminate bridge tolls. :troll:

[ilovebacon]

you think it has to do with something with that gasoline plant that blew up in the states?

[nns]

Slightly OT but I read an article earlier today about how gas prices were going up in Alberta. $1.14/liter was what they considered high. Just to add some perspective.

Gas prices in Metro Vancouver are now the highest in North America.

Prices in the Lower Mainland have been creeping up for the past week, and many stations are now charging around $1.42 a litre.

Vancouver gas prices versus the U.S. and Canadian average over the last 18 months.
Vancouver gas prices versus the U.S. and Canadian average over the last 18 months.
Gasbuddy.com
Petroleum analyst Dan McTeague with GasBuddy.com said there are several reasons for the high prices, including the fact that Metro residents pay among the highest gas taxes in Canada: 49 cents on every litre.

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McTeague added that Chevron’s Burnaby refinery just isn’t able to produce enough to keep up with demand.

“It looks like we’ve painted ourselves into a corner. We simply don’t produce enough gasoline, even if there was an adequate supply to meet our domestic needs,” McTeague said.

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That refinery, which is being sold to Parkland Industries, is able to produce about 45,000 barrels of fuel a day, McTeague said.

“Certainly in the Lower Mainland and on Vancouver Island, including Victoria, there is no way of calculating whether the price we are paying is justified.”

McTeague said motorists gassing up in Blaine or Bellingham are saving about $25 dollars a tank, even with the Canadian Dollar worth just US$0.78.

Soaring gas prices in Metro Vancouver will only add to the high cost of living in the region according to Kris Sims with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

“Our warning to folks is, regardless of your political stripe or how you vote, this is money coming out of your wallet and your bank account and you need to stand up and be heard about it if you think this is costing you too much. And right now it is just costing a ghastly amount to fill up your vehicle.”

Sims said once mobility pricing comes in, that will be another added tax.

At midday on Monday, the cheapest gas in Metro Vancouver was selling for $1.29 at the Costco at 20499 64 Avenue in Langley.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3832861/metro-vancouver-is-paying-north-americas-highest-gas-prices-analyst/

[tiger_handheld]

you think it has to do with something with that gasoline plant that blew up in the states?

when was this? and where?

[ilovebacon]

when was this? and where?

my mistake, that was an oil refinery

[nah]

I gassed up at Costco Bellingham yesterday and it was $2.49 USD, converted to CAD and it's about $0.83/L. That's almost half price and in Blaine it's $2.91. It feels like there's a gas cartel locally...

[!LittleDragon]

Got me a Nexus card years ago and I pop down to Pt. Roberts every Saturday for gas and to pick up my/gf's online shopping.

Too lazy to do the conversion but I typically pay $50-55 USD for 17-18 gallons. I only get gas locally when I need to and I only put in enough to get me through to Saturday. I was doing it here and there when I had a 2.0T but I do it weekly now with a 5.0L.

[coneZONE]

Is there some sort of law/bylaw that forces all the gas stations to have the same price? Growing up, i remember my dad driving to the next gas station to find a better price (few cents difference or so). A few years ago when i visited Victoria, basically every gas station had a different price, even if they were a block apart.



Gas wars?

[Gnomes]

I thought it was due to CAD dipped a bit from 80 cents to 78 cents. But that doesnt account for that significant increase

[1BADMR2]

Greed of the gas companies but speculating some type crisis again. Usually the higher gas prices occur in the summer time.

[blkgsr]

someone needs to do a comparison of oil prices vs gas prices vs CDN/USD


I've got a ram 1500 now and this is just killing me...thinking about runs to the states

i's roughly 90km round trip from my house to blaine, so with my truck that's going to be let's say 15L to drive there and back. that means i need to save over $20 on the fuel alone to make it worth while not counting my time.

so if gas is let's say $.50 cheaper that's about $60 savings in gas minus the $20 in fuel so $40 overall and a couple hours of my time

i guess i'll keep going to costco

[GabAlmighty]

#becausevancouver

I live in the arctic where the gas is trucked up... A substantially greater shipping cost than to Vancouver where it's piped in and put on local delivery trucks. I have a card lock with the local PetroPass and it usually comes to about $0.85-0.95/L

Living in one of the most desirable areas in the world has its disadvantages

[blkgsr]

ya this city fucking sucks, that's the disadvantage

[Slifer]

Man, I really don't understand how people can afford to live in Vancouver. Are majority of the population living paycheck to paycheck?

[Zedbra]

I just got back from a business trip in Niagara Falls and Toronto - gas was only $1.15 per litre.

[MG1]

I guess my decision to go electric was a good idea. It has its drawbacks, but news like this makes it less of an issue.

[Berzerker]

There is no regulatory body and no rules for gas pricing. They can literally charge whatever the fuck they want whenever the fuck they want to. There is NOTHING going on globally EVER than can justify 10cent increases in fuel prices overnight (as seen here in Smithers last week) We are the one of the biggest contributors to Oil in the world and yet we can't refine it ourselves to sell to ourselves? We ship it off for peanuts, and then buy it back for a premium? How the fuck does that make sense? Wouldn't be better for CANADA to build refineries and keep it in house, providing JOBS for Canadians, and keeping our money in Canada? Fuck I sound like Trump.....

Berz out.

[fliptuner]

I gassed up at Costco Bellingham yesterday and it was $2.49 USD, converted to CAD and it's about $0.83/L. That's almost half price and in Blaine it's $2.91. It feels like there's a gas cartel locally...

I was in Maui last month and gas was $2.39/gal.....in the middle of the Pacific fucking ocean.

Just got back from Victoria and it was $1.36/L - 7¢ cheaper than here and that shit has to get trucked in.

[originalhypa]

There is no regulatory body and no rules for gas pricing. They can literally charge whatever the fuck they want whenever the fuck they want to. There is NOTHING going on globally EVER than can justify 10cent increases in fuel prices overnight (as seen here in Smithers last week) We are the one of the biggest contributors to Oil in the world and yet we can't refine it ourselves to sell to ourselves? We ship it off for peanuts, and then buy it back for a premium? How the fuck does that make sense? Wouldn't be better for CANADA to build refineries and keep it in house, providing JOBS for Canadians, and keeping our money in Canada? Fuck I sound like Trump.....

Berz out.

You are completely right Berz.
The crazy thing is, that the fuel companies have been known to collude in the past. They're not technically a monopoly, but pretty damn close.

[roastpuff]

You are completely right Berz.
The crazy thing is, that the fuel companies have been known to collude in the past. They're not technically a monopoly, but pretty damn close.

Just like phone companies.

[blkgsr]

I was in Maui last month and gas was $2.39/gal.....in the middle of the Pacific fucking ocean.

Just got back from Victoria and it was $1.36/L - 7¢ cheaper than here and that shit has to get trucked in.

the GVRD has to pay the stupid translink tax and some other bullshit the rest of the province doesn't have to pay

[cdizzle_996]

Regardless of the tax paid..

Across the line in Sumas it's 2.89/gallon = .76c USD/litre. Funny how an imaginary line in the earth is such a difference. Even after the exchange it's .99c/litre CDN for regular or 1.05 for premium.

[Berzerker]

Just like phone companies.

I thought there was some sort of government oversight to prevent gouging in cell companies?

Berz out.

[yray]

RS starts own coop gas company :troll:

Maybe we can all join to get cardlock prices :lol

[murd0c]

RS starts own coop gas company :troll:

Maybe we can all join to get cardlock prices :lol

I do sell everything that's needed to make this work :fullofwin:

[roastpuff]

I thought there was some sort of government oversight to prevent gouging in cell companies?

Berz out.

Nope. There isn't.

How do you explain that were there are government owned mobile providers (SaskTel, Videotron etc) you can get 7GB data plans for $49 to match what the other providers are selling, whereas in other provinces you have to pay $120 for the same plans?

[!LittleDragon]

I learned long ago not to complain about the game... just join the winning side.

If you think oil and telecom companies are gouging prices then why not get in on the action? I own enough shares in energy stocks that the dividends more than cover my gas costs. Same with Rogers and Telus shares. I'm essentially getting them to pay my bills.

This is more than likely a temporary blip. There's a few weeks a year when they shut down the refineries to make the switch over to winter blend.

[roopi]

If only there was a pipeline to get more supply to the area.

[hotjoint]

Man, I really don't understand how people can afford to live in Vancouver. Are majority of the population living paycheck to paycheck?

Yeah, lots of people that I know drive nice cars, have fancy phones, nice houses but are living paycheck to paycheck and on credit cards. That's normal these days...

Regardless of the tax paid..

Across the line in Sumas it's 2.89/gallon = .76c USD/litre. Funny how an imaginary line in the earth is such a difference. Even after the exchange it's .99c/litre CDN for regular or 1.05 for premium.

Yup. I go for a quick 20 minute trip over the border and get my gas and save at least $50 each fill up. Not gonna pay these jacked up prices we have here.

[Jmac]

I was in Maui last month and gas was $2.39/gal.....in the middle of the Pacific fucking ocean.

Just got back from Victoria and it was $1.36/L - 7¢ cheaper than here and that shit has to get trucked in.
$1.329 in Duncan/Chemainus
$1.219 in Ladysmith
$1.269 in Nanaimo

On my drive into work this morning

[twitchyzero]

get a Nexus and vote with your wallet...boycott the carbon tax..or go electric
I even got a $10/mo T-mobile family line for data when i travel abroad so Rogers can shove it

'buy local' is BS when you have to pay through the nose for no good reason...we're not some inaccessible community up in the high mountains/middle of the vast ocean...we have a refinery right in the city for crying out loud

[originalhypa]

^
well said.

I own enough shares in energy stocks that the dividends more than cover my gas costs. Same with Rogers and Telus shares. I'm essentially getting them to pay my bills.

I'm calling bullshit on this.
I assure you, I guaran-fucking-tee that I have far more money invested in the fuel companies than a lot of people, and my dividends are not even close to covering my costs.

Exxon Mobil has a current share price of 83.87 USD, and has a quarterly dividend of $0.75/share.

Simple math says that every year you will receive $3usd in dividends per share. So to cover $1000 in fuel costs, you'll need $27,956 in shares. My fuel costs are over $15k/yr. So shut the fuck up with this regurgitated garbage that you read on reddit.

For the record, your idiocy just triggered me.
:devil:

[Manic!]

$1.329 in Duncan/Chemainus
$1.219 in Ladysmith
$1.269 in Nanaimo

On my drive into work this morning

Nanaimo is now 132.9 at most places.


If any of you bank at RBC you can get 3 cents off a liter if you link your RBC debit or credit card to your petro points card. You will also get 20 bonus in petro points and RBC rewards.

[NKC ONE]

Logically, gas will be more expensive in places that have high real estate prices. I'm not sure if most or all gas station locations are purchased or leased but they are usually in the most expensive spots that can be rezoned for housing development. Property tax is a big factor whether its leased or bought. I would expect that gas stations here carry a much higher operating cost than anywhere else in North America hence the reason why our gas price is this high compared to others.

Still beats getting gas in Hong Kong which is close to double of what we're paying at $1.40/L.

[GS8]

Man, I really don't understand how people can afford to live in Vancouver. Are majority of the population living paycheck to paycheck?

Absolutely yes.

Many are deluded into thinking it's the 'greatest place on Earth' and therefore live by that mantra. A lot of rich people live here and a lot of middle class people try to look rich to fit in. It's classic stupidity.

[yray]

Still beats getting gas in Hong Kong which is close to double of what we're paying at $1.40/L.

^ You can drive over to SZ and get some cheap gas :troll:

[Slifer]

^
well said.



I'm calling bullshit on this.
I assure you, I guaran-fucking-tee that I have far more money invested in the fuel companies than a lot of people, and my dividends are not even close to covering my costs.

Exxon Mobil has a current share price of 83.87 USD, and has a quarterly dividend of $0.75/share.

Simple math says that every year you will receive $3usd in dividends per share. So to cover $1000 in fuel costs, you'll need $27,956 in shares. My fuel costs are over $15k/yr. So shut the fuck up with this regurgitated garbage that you read on reddit.

For the record, your idiocy just triggered me.
:devil:

How much do Canadians spend on gas?
Canadians spend, on average, 3.245% of their income on gas.
About $1510 per person, per year.


Sorry, but just because you spend a ridiculous $15K/year on fuel does not mean everyone do too. To make $1510/year in dividends is totally viable. Your argument is flawed.

[twitchyzero]

the thing with special markets like hong kong or monaco is how tiny they are...they don't nearly have to drive as far as their north american counterpart

[Berzerker]

Godamn it. Just since this thread was posted gas jumped another 10cents to 133.9. The highest it's ever been in Smithers. That's up 20cents in 2 weeks. Almost a 20% increase in 2 weeks. Bullshit.

Berz out.

[!LittleDragon]

^
well said.



I'm calling bullshit on this.
I assure you, I guaran-fucking-tee that I have far more money invested in the fuel companies than a lot of people, and my dividends are not even close to covering my costs.

Exxon Mobil has a current share price of 83.87 USD, and has a quarterly dividend of $0.75/share.

Simple math says that every year you will receive $3usd in dividends per share. So to cover $1000 in fuel costs, you'll need $27,956 in shares. My fuel costs are over $15k/yr. So shut the fuck up with this regurgitated garbage that you read on reddit.

For the record, your idiocy just triggered me.
:devil:


My main energy holdings are HNY, SUN and ETP. All of which pay over 10% yield. $25k in holdings is enough dividend to pay for my gas. Typically I spend maybe $200-250/month on gas. Even if you don't have enough to cover all your costs, it's at least subsidizing your costs.

[Badhobz]

My wife does trading and ill tell you right now she doesnt even care about dividends. She had a 28.8% return last year and she only buys and sells a few choice stocks. She made like 40k this year on Air Canada stocks alone... after cap gains i guess it aint much, but still im proud of the dingbat.

[Berzerker]

The worst part is last week I was pissed off that gas went from 109.9 to 119.9 Now this week it jumps to 133.9 and I get a text that 1 of the 3 gas stations in town is still 119.9 and I was like "Sweet I should go fill up quick!" I was actually HAPPY to pay 119.9 FUCK YOU GAS COMPANIES!!!

Berz out.

[NKC ONE]

^ You can drive over to SZ and get some cheap gas :troll:

But that would require a license that's about $300k.

[Berzerker]

Does anyone have a spread sheet showing the price of oil and the price of gas and the correlations between the 2? You'll see a pretty sad and obvious fact. Gas prices have NOTHING to do with Oil prices per Barrel. So how and why can they arbitrarily raise prices at any time for any amount?

Berz out.

[hud 91gt]

My wife does trading and ill tell you right now she doesnt even care about dividends. She had a 28.8% return last year and she only buys and sells a few choice stocks. She made like 40k this year on Air Canada stocks alone... after cap gains i guess it aint much, but still im proud of the dingbat.

You better hope she diversifies a little bit. I've been riding Air Canada for the last 6 years. Doesn't mean i'm a good investor. Yet i'm up my initial investment 2500% lol. It dropped probably 15% in the last week on it's own. That's just called lucky.

[!LittleDragon]

You better hope she diversifies a little bit. I've been riding Air Canada for the last 6 years. Doesn't mean i'm a good investor. Yet i'm up my initial investment 2500% lol. It dropped probably 15% in the last week on it's own. That's just called lucky.

Agreed, I thought I was a hotshot trader because everything I touched turned to gold. Reality was I started trading in 2008 and everything had already hit bottom. After losing $25k, I settled on a diversified DRIP strategy the past 5 years. It's less stressful... lol

[Manic!]

So how and why can they arbitrarily raise prices at any time for any amount?

Berz out.

Because they are a private business they can set what ever price they want.

[Badhobz]

You better hope she diversifies a little bit. I've been riding Air Canada for the last 6 years. Doesn't mean i'm a good investor. Yet i'm up my initial investment 2500% lol. It dropped probably 15% in the last week on it's own. That's just called lucky.

True that. The damn AC is tanking right now. Dropped 2 bucks the last few days.

[Slifer]

You better hope she diversifies a little bit. I've been riding Air Canada for the last 6 years. Doesn't mean i'm a good investor. Yet i'm up my initial investment 2500% lol. It dropped probably 15% in the last week on it's own. That's just called lucky.

You're up 2500%?!

[AzNightmare]

Yeah, lots of people that I know drive nice cars, have fancy phones, nice houses but are living paycheck to paycheck and on credit cards. That's normal these days...

Yup. I go for a quick 20 minute trip over the border and get my gas and save at least $50 each fill up. Not gonna pay these jacked up prices we have here.

Do you fill up a gas can as well or does your car have a huge tank? I can fill up a full tank at $60~.
I might only save maybe $20-25~ so it's not worth it for me. But then again, I also live farther than 20 mins from the border, lol.

[originalhypa]

How much do Canadians spend on gas?
Canadians spend, on average, 3.245% of their income on gas.
About $1510 per person, per year.


Sorry, but just because you spend a ridiculous $15K/year on fuel does not mean everyone do too. To make $1510/year in dividends is totally viable. Your argument is flawed.

Don’t be sorry about what I spend. Be sorry for coming at me with a weak argument.

First off, the average B.C. income is what you should be looking at. Currently sitting at $76,770, which means that if your number of 3.245% is actually closer to $2340.

$2340 over 12 months is equal to $195/month in gas.

Filling a Honda 4 times a month at $50/tank is more than $195 a month. Judging by the number of trucks and large sedans on the road, I guarantee that most spend more than that. I average $110/tank and I fill up 5-6 times a month. $660 x 12 = $7920 a year on one car. I have 5. If you think anyone here who lives in say, Coquitlam and works in Vancouver could get away with spending $1510 a year in fuel, you’re delusional.

[MarkyMark]

Is 76k the average individual income in BC or family income?

[originalhypa]

I based this in family income, as it was the most realistic number that I could find. Which makes my numbers even more dramatic, as I took family income and divided by one vehicle. Add in another vehicle, and our costs are even higher.

Could you imagine if we could get away with >$200 a month in gas?
With everyone pushing out further east, and the ever increasing cost of fuel, it’s even less likely that dividends could even come close to covering those costs.

Btw, I hold a number of fuel companies, along with the Canadian banks. The Banks pay nice dividends, but as badhobz said, those are taxed quite high.

You just can’t win living in BC.

[Slifer]

Don’t be sorry about what I spend. Be sorry for coming at me with a weak argument.

First off, the average B.C. income is what you should be looking at. Currently sitting at $76,770, which means that if your number of 3.245% is actually closer to $2340.

$2340 over 12 months is equal to $195/month in gas.

Filling a Honda 4 times a month at $50/tank is more than $195 a month. Judging by the number of trucks and large sedans on the road, I guarantee that most spend more than that. I average $110/tank and I fill up 5-6 times a month. $660 x 12 = $7920 a year on one car. I have 5. If you think anyone here who lives in say, Coquitlam and works in Vancouver could get away with spending $1510 a year in fuel, you’re delusional.

Fine, whatever, $2340 per year. According to your calculation, it will take an investment of $65417. Again, totally doable.. whats your point?

[twitchyzero]

Do you fill up a gas can as well or does your car have a huge tank? I can fill up a full tank at $60~.
I might only save maybe $20-25~ so it's not worth it for me. But then again, I also live farther than 20 mins from the border, lol.

jerry cans
although they're subject to duty if the agent feels like sticking by the books

[originalhypa]

Fine, whatever, $2340 per year. According to your calculation, it will take an investment of $65417. Again, totally doable.. whats your point?

Do you have $65k invested in one fuel stock?!
If so, you should fire your broker because unless you have 7 figures invested diversely, you’re far too Exxon stock heavy. What do you pay in capital gains every year on those shares? Have you maxed or your tfsa and rrsp?

If not, you’re leaving money on the table.

If so, you are a wealthy guy.

Either way, $65k in Exxon Mobil is baller status. Why even worry about the cost of gas if you’re ballin’?

:fullofwin:

[Slifer]

Who says it has to be on 1 stock? Exxon only pays 3.5% dividend which isn't a lot. There are others that pay upwards of 10%. For the sake of argument, I'll use 3.5% as the average dividend in my portfolio. 100% doable.

[TjAlmeida]

Pretty sure neither of your investments have anything to do with the price of local gas.

[hud 91gt]

You're up 2500%?!:fullofwin: $0.98 to my most recent purchase at $27.42. Too bad I wasn’t broke ass 6 years ago starting a brand new job and my first mortgage. I might be as baller as the rest of the Revscener’s. Ha

[hotjoint]

Do you fill up a gas can as well or does your car have a huge tank? I can fill up a full tank at $60~.
I might only save maybe $20-25~ so it's not worth it for me. But then again, I also live farther than 20 mins from the border, lol.

I fill up my 70L tank and bring 4 20L jerry cans as well. Gotta make the trip worth it even though I'm somewhat close to the border :)

jerry cans
although they're subject to duty if the agent feels like sticking by the books

Yep. I've never had an issue with my jerry cans. Let's hope it stays that way :fullofwin:

[welfare]

^^^reminds me of that trailer park boys episode when they started there own "gas station" lol

[fliptuner]

FS - 100gal transfer tank

[murd0c]

I live in Mission and work in Poco, I should sell gas at a discount out of my truck lol

[fliptuner]

:considered:

Can you fit 400L in a T4R? :troll:

[blkgsr]

uhm, jerry cans would definitely make the trip more worth while with my truck

[Berzerker]

I live in Mission and work in Poco, I should sell gas at a discount out of my truck lol

Funny enough and real enough as that is, it's illegal isn't it? But think about that for a second.

Get a tidy tank in the back of your pickup,
go fill it up in US then come back and charge per liter much less than local gas stations.
Profit.

Bootlegging Gas? lol

I just googled gas prices in Bellingham and it's 82cents per liter Canadian. 400L tidy tank = $328. Come back and sell for 1.25/L = $500 $172 profit. Not a bad days work lol

Berz out.

[murd0c]

best part is I sell tidy tanks and all the pumps/meters. I could easily set it up, get everything at cost. I have Nexus as well so getting fuel would be beyond simple for me, best part is I could get everything I need at cost as well LOL

To answer your question for it to be legal I would have to have everything Weights and Measures certified for resale.

[BIC_BAWS]

Not sure if this link will work for you guys, but here's a link to GasBuddy Dan's Twitter where I get my updates on Vancouver gas prices: Or search "#Vancouver from:GasBuddyDan" and click on Latest (https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=%23Vancouver%20from%3AGasBuddyDan%20&src=typd)

He sometimes talks about current events of the oil and gas industry, but mainly points to Vancouver being a price taker. Price taker or not, it still feels like collusion / gas cartel.

[blkgsr]

does the government post stats on how much income they are making in the taxation of gas??

[Traum]

And gas got another 2 cents more expensive this morning compared to yesterday... FailFish

Fxxk I only have ~100km left on the car before I need gas again, and the low fuel light should come on in the next 40km or so...

[murd0c]

Gas right now in Mission is $1.24.9 which is crazy for out there. At least I don't have to pay the crazy $1.40+ prices all of you guys are paying.

[Berzerker]

Someone just posted that gas in Van was 161.1 is this true????

Berz out.

[BIC_BAWS]

Someone just posted that gas in Van was 161.1 is this true????

Berz out.The highest I could find for PREMIUM is 163.9https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171102/ca33b3180f24957454ef1dd5a5546ca0.jpg

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[murd0c]

can't say I have seen gas prices that high before lol

[BIC_BAWS]

I see more prices in the 155-157 range, for premium. So I'm guessing whoever posted 161.1 posted the higher end of prices.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

[Berzerker]

Ah ok that makes sense. Still.... I remember when I had my beater dodge colt it actually paid for itself and some mods on my civic with the money I saved in fuel. 500km+ to 40L. Would be even better these days to have a little fuel economy beater.

Berz out.

[yray]

RS cruise to bellingham :pokerface:

[roastpuff]

Time to re-enact F&F 4.

http://upic.me/i/31/fylu9.jpg

[whitev70r]

Saw Reg for $1.44 today

The other thing that pisses me off is the difference between 87 and 89 (and 91). In the US, the difference is like a few cents, here it's like 15 cent jump ... ??!!

[fliptuner]

FS - 100gal transfer tank

SOLD hahahha

[acrophobia]

$139.9 for regular in Kelowna :(

[Teriyaki]

This is getting a little out of hand... honestly. I haven't gassed up in Vancouver in ages but seriously...

[TjAlmeida]

I do not watch a lot news, but i have not heard of any explanation to go along with these large hikes. Usually as soon as gas prices hike up the news is on it giving reasons/excuses for the increase. With such a crazy increase does anyone else find it interesting there have been no specials on the news or facebook links giving reason?

[CCA-Dave]

But hey, don't worry...the "Competition Bureau" is actively working for all us tax payers to ensure that you aren't being price fixed on BREAD. Lets ignore the obvious gas, internet and cell phone issues this country has, and yes, spend the money on a bread investigation...

Are Canadian grocers fixing bread prices? - Macleans.ca (http://www.macleans.ca/news/are-canadian-grocers-fixing-bread-prices/)

[XplicitLuder]

I remember buying gas of a friend for 1.00/litre back in high school... oh how I wish he was still doing this these days LOL

[Traum]

I remember buying gas of a friend for 1.00/litre back in high school... oh how I wish he was still doing this these days LOL
Young padawan, I still remember the days when my old man bought gas at 29.9 cents for the litre.

[murd0c]

the 29.9 gas during the Arco days, cheapest I bought gas for was 49.9 when I first started driving

[FN-2199]

But hey, don't worry...the "Competition Bureau" is actively working for all us tax payers to ensure that you aren't being price fixed on BREAD. Lets ignore the obvious gas, internet and cell phone issues this country has, and yes, spend the money on a bread investigation...

Are Canadian grocers fixing bread prices? - Macleans.ca (http://www.macleans.ca/news/are-canadian-grocers-fixing-bread-prices/)

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/5/5/2/186587552/062716_tinfoil_med_q1w5xf7p.gif

[Liquid_o2]

$1.46 today and I need 91 octane... and I'm running on fumes. Here I was trying to wait it out and see if it could go back down.

[BIC_BAWS]

$1.46 today and I need 91 octane... and I'm running on fumes. Here I was trying to wait it out and see if it could go back down.

Go fill up at Superstore if you have a PC points card (7 cents off/L) or a PC debit/credit card (14 cents off/L) iirc.

According to: Gas prices continue to go up in Metro Vancouver | Vancouver Sun (http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/gas-prices-continue-to-go-up-in-metro-vancouver)

If you are unhappy with gas prices in Metro Vancouver hitting $1.45 per litre, you really won’t like Saturday’s prices, says GasBuddy petroleum analyst Dan McTeague.

Thanks to a supply crunch, he predicts the cost of gas will spike again overnight in Metro Vancouver, hitting $1.47.9 per litre... He predicts Metro Vancouver gas prices, the highest in North America, will continue until about Wednesday or Thursday.

Yikes.

[belka]

Still 108.9 here. Filled up so hopefully if they do jump up I'll be good for a bit.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Analysts stumped by price increase at Calgary gas pumps
Price of gas rose to 128.9 cents a litre at some Calgary stations on Thursday
Analysts stumped by price increase at Calgary gas pumps - Calgary - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-gas-prices-rising-1.4385446)

[yray]

gas stations following the ways of ICBC

[twitchyzero]

supply crunch lol
like when hard drive storage prices never recovered from a flooding years ago

best part is I sell tidy tanks and all the pumps/meters. I could easily set it up, get everything at cost. I have Nexus as well so getting fuel would be beyond simple for me, best part is I could get everything I need at cost as well LOL

To answer your question for it to be legal I would have to have everything Weights and Measures certified for resale.

if done regularly they would probably suggest it's unsafe for you to transport the gas or some other BS and revoke your Nexus

[Acura604]

haven't filled up in lower mainland for years.... I DO what I must when i go to Blaine every 2 weeks. :joy:

https://i.imgur.com/Docni3E.jpg

[hotjoint]

haven't filled up in lower mainland for years.... I DO what I must when i go to Blaine every 2 weeks. :joy:

https://i.imgur.com/Docni3E.jpg

Exactly what I do :)

[MG1]

I go every week and I usually do two jerry cans. I get strange looks when I fill up in an all electric vehicle. My other three cars are still ICE (Internal Combustion Engine). Once in a while I take the Acura to Bellingham. When it's down to 1/4 tank. I never take the truck, as it's a gas guzzler. Now that I am exclusively ICE, because no snows on EV, I must get more gas from Bellingham. Damn fokkers at Costco limiting jerry can size to 22.X litres. And no, I like top tier gas. If Fred Meyers had top tier, I'd go there in an instant. I'm trying to get a US Costco card to get even more discount.

[Ch28]

I go every week and I usually do two jerry cans. I get strange looks when I fill up in an all electric vehicle. My other three cars are still ICE (Internal Combustion Engine). Once in a while I take the Acura to Bellingham. When it's down to 1/4 tank. I never take the truck, as it's a gas guzzler. Now that I am exclusively ICE, because no snows on EV, I must get more gas from Bellingham. Damn fokkers at Costco limiting jerry can size to 22.X litres. And no, I like top tier gas. If Fred Meyers had top tier, I'd go there in an instant. I'm trying to get a US Costco card to get even more discount.

How do they limit the jerry can sizes? Do they have someone that goes around and measures the cans while you're filling them? :badpokerface:

[MG1]

They come around and check all the time. I've been busted too many times and told not to fill it. One look at a jerry can and you can tell if it's a 20 litre or a 25 litre. This is the law in Bellingham. The only place that makes a big deal about it is Costco. They must have been told to keep an eye on Canadians. Never happens anywhere else. Costco has signs up stating the limit.

You can go down yourself and give it a go. Rules are rules and if they are making an effort to enforce the law, then I'm not going out of my way to try and get away with filling up a 25 litre jerry can.

I get top tier 92. My truck runs best with higher octane when towing a trailer. Anyway.............

[twitchyzero]

basically everyone's top tier unless it's a smaller/indie gas bar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Tier_Detergent_Gasoline
what are the chances costco canada will zone part of their lot for gas pumps...bet it'll be a nice upset even with the taxes :devil:

[Manic!]

basically everyone's top tier unless it's a smaller/indie gas bar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Tier_Detergent_Gasoline
what are the chances costco canada will zone part of their lot for gas pumps...bet it'll be a nice upset even with the taxes :devil:

Husky is not rated top tier. Also, a number of Costcos already sell gas.

[Badhobz]

I don't know how you guys have time to do all of this.

[MG1]

^sleep is way overrated

[westopher]

I paid 1.61 for premium last weekend in NV.
My fucking $50 gift card only filled up the touring a bit over half way. I don't often get butthurt over gas prices since I drive so little but holy shit, that stung.

[murd0c]

paid 1.20.9l for premium in Mission last night. Man its great living out here sometimes

[blkgsr]

fucking 147.9 today....and i saw 139.9 last night

[UnknownJinX]

Well, no more "Zoom Zoom" for me for a while.

[Badhobz]

i just gassed up the maz. 1.68 a friggin liter of shell 91... she needed 65litres out of a laughable 85L tank. so it came to 109 dollars. WHAT THE FLYING FUCK.... she gets 17.5L to 100kms in the city too hahahah:badpokerface:

[twitchyzero]

I don't know how you guys have time to do all of this.
to spend half a day a month to get gas, some groceries and pick up parcels?

[Badhobz]

to spend half a day a month to get gas, some groceries and pick up parcels?

Nah it aint worth it for me considering the drive from Richmond to lame Blaine is an hour there and an hour back and probably a few bucks of gas. We got Nexus but its still not worth it. Plus we don't do enough online shopping to go down every month. More like once every 3-4 months at best. Biggest issue for me is carrying that much explosive gas that stinks up the entire cabin/trunk.

Too much work for not much reward.

[Acura604]

I live 15mins from the pac Hwy crossing.....and the drive there in the RDX is great.

[UnknownJinX]

i just gassed up the maz. 1.68 a friggin liter of shell 91... she needed 65litres out of a laughable 85L tank. so it came to 109 dollars. WHAT THE FLYING FUCK.... she gets 17.5L to 100kms in the city too hahahah:badpokerface:Well, my RX-8 gets similar gas mileage and needs premium as well.

My tank is 65L and I usually get 45~55 Lwhen I fill up. Gas price is at 155.9 for premium on the island.

[twitchyzero]

it's around a 55 minute drive for me from Vancouver to Bellingham
are you going late morning on a long weekend? otherwise 1 hour from Richmond to Blaine with Nexus sounds like you're playing it super safe...or getting cavity searched each time :ahwow:

[320icar]

Yeah this gas is fucked up. I wanna go cruise to cypress and stuff, but I just can’t justify an $80 tank of gas just for some photos. Thankfully I walk to work so I only have to fill up not even twice a month normally. But still... the fuck.

It’s cheaper to fill up regular and go buy octane booster than it is to just get premium. And by a pretty big margin

[cdizzle_996]

Went to Sumas this morning to fill the G37. 16 gallons (60litres) at 3.08USD cost me $64cdn or $1.07/litre. Almost $30cdn savings a tank considering premium was 1.52 in Abby this morning.

[yray]

1.52 for premium in abby :fulloffuck:

[G0rilla]

Im pretty sure e85 is cheaper than 94 atm

[Nabatron]

I remember the days of filling up my rx8 every week lol...

[Traum]

Went to Sumas this morning to fill the G37. 16 gallons (60litres) at 3.08USD cost me $64cdn or $1.07/litre. Almost $30cdn savings a tank considering premium was 1.52 in Abby this morning.
Filled up @ PR Shell today. 92 octane V-Power Nitro+ @ Cdn$1.266/L. The local Shell station a few blocks away from me is selling regular gas @ Cdn$1.459/L

FailFish

IMO, the price discrepancy between US and Canadian gas retailers we are seeing right now is the biggest that I remember. What the heck is going on...?

[hotjoint]

Filled up @ PR Shell today. 92 octane V-Power Nitro+ @ Cdn$1.266/L. The local Shell station a few blocks away from me is selling regular gas @ Cdn$1.459/L

FailFish

IMO, the price discrepancy between US and Canadian gas retailers we are seeing right now is the biggest that I remember. What the heck is going on...?

Nothing is going on to warrant these high prices. They're just high because of where we live and we just have to deal with it or get gas from the US. Before gas was going up during the summer time, now it's just going up whenever. Don't be surprised if this is the norm going forward.

[ilovebacon]

imagine what the prices will become for next summer..

[320icar]

So what’s the rules for bringing jerry cans down to point Roberts? I’ve never done it before but if this continues I’ll have to start. Someone said last page a max of 20L cans? Limit on number of cans themselves?

[Kilinim]

$2.59 USD/gallon at Bellingham Costco today :)

[twitchyzero]

remember when it worked out to be 50-60c/L few years ago? 45 min line-ups at Costco :okay:

[Spaceship_coupe]

So what’s the rules for bringing jerry cans down to point Roberts? I’ve never done it before but if this continues I’ll have to start. Someone said last page a max of 20L cans? Limit on number of cans themselves?

The following is taken from the Transport Canada Website.

Question: How many jerricans of gasoline may I transport in my private vehicle?
Answer: There is an exemption titled "150 kg Gross Mass Exemption" that allows you to transport a gross mass of up to 150 kg of gasoline. When using this exemption, the weight of the means of containment and the gasoline may NOT exceed 30 kg. A typical 25 L jerrican of gasoline would most likely weigh less than that. If each jerrican weighed 25 kg, then you could transport up to 6 jerricans (i.e., 25 kg x 6 = 150 kg).

The "Limited Quantities Exemption" (Section 1.17) may allow you to transport more than 150 kg without having to comply with the entire TDG Regulations. For more details, please see the following question: What is a "limited quantity" and how does this exemption work (Section 1.17)?

For a more detailed explanation of this exemption, please consult the FAQ titled:
How does the 150 kg gross mass exemption (Section 1.15) work?

Source: Safety Awareness Materials and FAQ - Transport Canada (http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/tdg/awareness-materials-and-faq-1159.html)

[fliptuner]

Transport Canada /= CBSA

[Spaceship_coupe]

Transport Canada /= CBSA

Yes I do know that but I feel it’s good information to know what is considered to be the max limit one can privately transport in a private vehicle.

[fliptuner]

So what’s the rules for bringing jerry cans down to point Roberts? I’ve never done it before but if this continues I’ll have to start. Someone said last page a max of 20L cans? Limit on number of cans themselves?

Technically, anything more than the normal capacity of the vehicle is subject to duty.

[belka]

Prices are holding at $1.06-1.10/L for regular up here. One new station is at $1.24/L but its been like that for three days now. Not missing the BC cost of living at all, I remember filling up with Premium in the /M car in DT Vancouver two summers ago. Paid $1.61/L, that really hurt.

Sure do miss the mountains though. :okay:

[Manic!]

Technically, anything more than the normal capacity of the vehicle is subject to duty.

But they don't really care. There jobs is to stop criminals not collect taxes.

[BIC_BAWS]

So what’s the rules for bringing jerry cans down to point Roberts? I’ve never done it before but if this continues I’ll have to start. Someone said last page a max of 20L cans? Limit on number of cans themselves?I don't remember who the source was but since you reside in Richmond they might not let you carry it over as you cant transport explosive materials through Massey tunnel, unless you were to say go all the way around.

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[originalhypa]

But they don't really care. There jobs is to stop criminals not collect taxes.

Really?
When was the last time you went into a CBSA office?
I do it weekly, and I assure you that regardless of their marketing, their job is to collect taxes first and foremost.

[yray]

^yea, we are criminals for not buying things in canada :troll:

[Traum]

Really?
When was the last time you went into a CBSA office?
I do it weekly, and I assure you that regardless of their marketing, their job is to collect taxes first and foremost.
I am not disagreeing with you, Hypa, but I'd also have to say they are far less hell-bent on collecting taxes compared to before.

[blkgsr]

just did the math to double check.

current price in bellingham is $2.59/gal. at roughly a 1.27 conversion to USD that puts gas at roughly $0.87/liter

[Traum]

just did the math to double check.

current price in bellingham is $2.59/gal. at roughly a 1.27 conversion to USD that puts gas at roughly $0.87/liter
Insane... It's only an hour away, and the gas is 40% cheaper than what we pay... FailFish

[originalhypa]

I am not disagreeing with you, Hypa, but I'd also have to say they are far less hell-bent on collecting taxes compared to before.

Have they backed off at the border?
I'm glad to hear that. I deal with CBSA on a corporate level, and it's all about dem taxes. I've noticed that anything coming in via the mail system from Amazon, etc, are being hit with the highest level of duty and taxes over the last year. I used to get away with minimal charges. But it seems like they're figuring out that they're leaving a viable income stream completely untapped.

I don't like paying taxes.
:okay:

[hotjoint]

I don't like paying taxes.
:okay:

I don't think any of is like paying taxes :okay:

[Manic!]

Really?
When was the last time you went into a CBSA office?
I do it weekly, and I assure you that regardless of their marketing, their job is to collect taxes first and foremost.

In the last 3 months I was in the states 6 times buying hundreds of dollars worth of stuff and gas and was never charged any duty.

[hchang]

But they don't really care. There jobs is to stop criminals not collect taxes.

*Their

[murd0c]

But they don't really care. There jobs is to stop criminals not collect taxes.

You are incorrect about that, their job is to stop criminals and the import of certain goods and people into Canada. They also enforce taxes on goods brought into Canada in which the correct tax hasn't been paid on.

Trust me on this the wife is a CBSA officer :fullofwin:

[slicrick]

https://i.imgur.com/DaR8tsCl.jpg

Today in Surrey PJSaltPJSaltPJSalt

[hchang]

^ I don't get why there isn't as big of a jump from regular to premium in the states

Even if you factor in lower prices equal lower percentage markup but the percentage is still less than ours

[fliptuner]

But they don't really care. There jobs is to stop criminals not collect taxes.

That's why I said, technically. He asked what the rules are and that's what it is. Generally, a couple is fine.

People have been charged duty on a single Jerry can of fuel.
Carrying extra gas across the border will cost you | CTV Vancouver News (http://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/carrying-extra-gas-across-the-border-will-cost-you-1.2793344)

[Badhobz]

Trust me on this the wife is a CBSA officer :fullofwin:

Most women CBSA officers either have a stick up their ass or super duper nice. I've only encountered the two types.

[MG1]

Trust me on this the wife is a CBSA officer :fullofwin:

Wut?

Did I miss something?

[MG1]

Most women CBSA officers either have a stick up their ass or super duper nice. I've only encountered the two types.

You can say that exact thing about men CBSA officers. I guess with men there are more shades of grey?

Everything from douchebags and cocksuckers to cool and friendly.

Most of the female CBSA officers I've encountered have been nice to me. In fact, I cannot remember one that was unreasonable or had something up their ass. Must be my calming personality/charm and trusting face.

As for border guards being different between the countries, I find the US border guards are more on edge than our guys and gals. Their (or there, depending on who's reading this) border guards are in the normal to asshole range 95% of the time.

[murd0c]

Wut?

Did I miss something?

Common law close enough lol

[murd0c]

Most women CBSA officers either have a stick up their ass or super duper nice. I've only encountered the two types.

That being said you wouldn’t want to fuck with mine lol

[AzNightmare]

From my personal experience, I prefer to deal with the male ones.

Female ones tend to stick to the book more often than to let things slide, (like the threshold value before they make me pay taxes on items I'm bringing back) and they also act a lot more stern, maybe to compensate, cause woman are generally labelled as not being tough enough to do these type of jobs... so the ones that do make it probably had to go the extra mile to prove they belong.

Anyway, just my opinion and experience. I've never actually done anything wrong or got held up at the border before.

[yray]

I have never encounter a CBSA thats not douchey, thats how they are trained. The ones that go on a power trip are chinese both sides of the border :lawl:


US CBP once asked me where I was going and said go ahead :lol

[twitchyzero]

the CBSA in Nexus lanes I find are nicer
one even smiled back...seriously i don't even

[blkgsr]

I have never encounter a CBSA thats not douchey, thats how they are trained. The ones that go on a power trip are chinese both sides of the border :lawl:


US CBP once asked me where I was going and said go ahead :lol


I've received far less hassle heading south then coming back home. now generally the US are just doing a check to see who you are and where you're going where as the canadians are seeing who you are, where you've been and how much you're bringing back...they want that tax moeny

[BIC_BAWS]

Why Are Gas Prices in Canada Suddenly So Damned High - National Post (http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-are-gas-prices-suddenly-so-damned-high)

- Blame it all on a production slowdown in the U.S.
- The Americans have been particularly thirsty for gasoline lately
- Canadian dollars can’t buy as much gas


Unfortunately, things probably won’t be getting any better
U.S. production will eventually catch up. That ruptured pipeline mentioned earlier is already fixed, and major refineries will soon wrap up their seasonal maintenance. However, this is all happening just in time for consumers to get hammered with the effects of higher global prices on crude oil. Demand everywhere is on the upswing, and it doesn’t help that Saudi Arabia is currently threatening war with both Lebanon and Yemen.

[mikemhg]

It is somewhat bizarre for a country that is considered so "friendly" our CBSA agents, both at the border and in our airports, tend to be pricks.

It's odd how I always have worse experience coming back to my own country, then going to the States. Luckily I've never been pulled in on either side when crossing the border though, it's just the attitude of the CBSA agents that pisses me off.

[Ch28]

It is somewhat bizarre for a country that is considered so "friendly" our CBSA agents, both at the border and in our airports, tend to be pricks.

It's part of the job. I wouldn't want to see border agents, the ones that protect our country from unwanted individuals, to be buddy buddy with everyone.

[edit] I can't believe you two morons failed me

[MG1]

I cross every week at least once and I would say our border guards are very good/nice. Some of them really like to talk. One of them talked to me for a good 8 or so minutes when he found out I drove an all electric car. It must be my age or something. This one guy started to give me attitude.......... I just gave him the Vulcan eyebrow and he settled down and actually called me, sir.

[twitchyzero]

some guy was being questioned at the nexus booth for 5 minutes +...wanduring if it was you
just pull them inside if there's a long line-up!

[MG1]

I would never strike up a conversation if there was a line up. The only time I struck up a conversation when there was a long line up was when I encountered that really cute South Asian chick at the peace Arch crossing. Making a hottie giggle and laugh trumps all. hee hee..........

[Badhobz]

Whaaaatttt you perverted old man !!! Move your carcass so I can smuggle in Louie vuittons and shit

[MG1]

I like to spread good cheer and happiness wherever I go............ you, on the other hand.

god bless.

If you were behind me, I'd tell the border guard I saw you dumping boxes and packaging material at the rest stop prior to arriving at the border crossing, gulolol.

[yray]

MG1 master money launderer and smuggler

Pic of MG1
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/12/24A4004F00000578-2907172-image-a-1_1421093828653.jpg

[320icar]

I would never strike up a conversation if there was a line up. The only time I struck up a conversation when there was a long line up was when I encountered that really cute South Asian chick at the peace Arch crossing. Making a hottie giggle and laugh trumps all. hee hee..........

pretty sure i know the one. she laughed at me when i brought over a wilwood BBK for my...miata... that hurt. she used to work at yvr cargo

[blkgsr]

first gas run today, 196L total lol

filled up my truck and another 110L in jerry cans. 4x25L and 1x10L

all at 2.799 which is roughly $0.94/L which worked out to be approx $100 savings. now I'm out the initial costs of the 25L jerry cans which i bought this morning so I broke even over all but all future runs will be savings.

pretty sure the tonneau cover on my truck helped get me back across with no issues

[yray]

Prohibition gas :troll:

we need a tesla X to run gas across the border :lawl:

[twitchyzero]

you didn't fill your body panels and tires with gasoline? what's wrong with you :troll:

[yray]

DouglasA[/B];8871823]when was this? and where?

douglas border crossing CBSA :badpokerface:

[GLOW]

I just gave him the Vulcan eyebrow and he settled down and actually called me, sir.

based on this i got a picture of MG1 in my head
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/_img/chars/lorax-the-lorax-6.13.jpg

:troll:

[twitchyzero]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gas-prices-bc-land-costs-1.5207947

Gasoline prices in B.C. have risen in line with land costs and credit card processing fees, but that doesn't fully explain why they're so much higher than in other parts of Western Canada, a new report says.

The report by Deetken Group was posted online late Wednesday by the B.C. Utilities Commission, which is overseeing a public inquiry into sky-high gas prices in the province.

lmao blaming credit card fees when the average bill is like $80+

[MG1]

Blame it on the chinese, instead............... gulolol.

[Manic!]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/gas-prices-bc-land-costs-1.5207947



lmao blaming credit card fees when the average bill is like $80+

LOL that's 100% B.S.

[Hehe]

This whole gas cartel thing is so BS...

Only in the lower mainland we can find price fluctuating between day and night and somehow that is fucking legal. :fuckthatshit:

Gonna replace my DD with a model 3 now, and our van with a model X once finance is up in a year and I will laugh my FUCKING ass off every time someone complains about gas price again. :fuckyea:

[tiger_handheld]

LOL that's 100% B.S.

don't you or your family own a c-store with a gas station attached?
iirc you mentioned something way back in a thread.

[Badhobz]

This whole gas cartel thing is so BS...

Only in the lower mainland we can find price fluctuating between day and night and somehow that is fucking legal. :fuckthatshit:

Gonna replace my DD with a model 3 now, and our van with a model X once finance is up in a year and I will laugh my FUCKING ass off every time someone complains about gas price again. :fuckyea:

:heckno: yeah but you would have been able to buy like 20 years worth of gas at 1.70 a L if you just kept your existing cars and not spend 150k combined for 2 vehicles.

[Manic!]

don't you or your family own a c-store with a gas station attached?
iirc you mentioned something way back in a thread.

Yes we do and that's why I know the credit card and land cost excuse is B.S. CC costs are not that much it's around 1.7 percent. As for land costs Esso, Shell, Chevron, Husky have all sold their gas stations so they are not paying for land.

[JDMDreams]

92 was $0.95 at pr today dunno why gas is over $1.5 again here

[!LittleDragon]

This whole gas cartel thing is so BS...

Only in the lower mainland we can find price fluctuating between day and night and somehow that is fucking legal. :fuckthatshit:

Gonna replace my DD with a model 3 now, and our van with a model X once finance is up in a year and I will laugh my FUCKING ass off every time someone complains about gas price again. :fuckyea:

I haven't complained in years... $350/month in dividends from oil companies = free gas for me. Investment capital was cheaper than a Tesla too... AND I still have my money

[Eatman]

I haven't complained in years... $350/month in dividends from oil companies = free gas for me. Investment capital was cheaper than a Tesla too... AND I still have my money

You my friend, just beat this thread..

time to invest in oil as well

[Hehe]

:heckno: yeah but you would have been able to buy like 20 years worth of gas at 1.70 a L if you just kept your existing cars and not spend 150k combined for 2 vehicles.

What kind of peasant burns through 150k worth of gas in 20years? :fuckthatshit:

Seriously though... after driving my buddy's Tesla for a while when he borrowed my DD for a last minute trans-con drive, I'm a believer of EV.

EV has come a long way. It's more refined to a point that ICE no longer holds any advantage anymore.

Only reason I can think of is long road trip, but that'd be a rental whenever needed.

[MG1]

^NO, EV's are evil. They're bad. They will suck the life from you and spit concentrated jalapeño juice into your soul.

Just what we need.......... line ups at the charging stations, lol. Every time I go to my secret charging location, there are no line ups. The other day, I had to wait ten minutes.

Funny thing is, I used to see Teslas charging at the Superstore DC Fast Charge stations. If I saw one, I would just drive by and not even wait, because those cars are EV hogs. They'd be there for an hour. I don't think I've seen one in the past three or four months, maybe more They're finally installing Tesla Superchargers in and around Vancouver (22 Pacific Centre. 12 Guilford, 12 Tsawwassen, with at least three more sites coming in the next few months). I guess that's where they're all going? Tesla Superchargers are amazingly fast. Nowadays, all I see are fricken Outlander PHEV's driven by frugal asians. I mean they're flocking to the chargers like buzzards to a dead cow. These are plug-in hybrids that go only 40 km on battery before they switch to gas. Well, that means drivers will take full advantage of charging wherever and whenever they can. At Grand Villa Casino, there are times where Outlanders are taking up all four charging stations. To the point I don't even bother going there to charge. They are there for three to five hours at a time. Some of them charge there and take the free shuttle bus to Metro or Brentwood or go to work (not at casino or hotel).

Anyway, I have a level two charger at home and my two secret charging locations, so I'm all good.

[Badhobz]

Well whatever, 40 years then hahah. I'm just saying spending 150k in an excuse to save gas isnt defensible. Better to keep your existing cars if you wanna save money.

[MG1]

It's not about saving money. It's about saving this planet. :troll:

Collecting pop cans and beer bottles used to be for poor folk, bag ladies, and the homeless. Now it's cool to recycle, because we're all doing our part to save the planet.

The only thing that'll save this planet is WWIII.

[Badhobz]

No man!!! Fuck recycle!!!! I got garbage Nazis patrolling Richmond digging through my trash trying to see if I threw out food scraps and papers. Fuckkkkk thaaatttt, why do I pay my taxes if I have to do all this garbage work. If they wanted more recycling done then they should hire people to sort all that shit just like in Japan. Job creation and protect the planet at the same time !!!

[Nlkko]

They actually dig through your trash to investigate?

[MG1]

C'mon............. it's Richmond. Nuff said.

If people were more diligent with what they throw out, there would be no need for policing the garbage being thrown out.

I go to the Burnaby Still Creek recycling depot on a regular basis. You should see what people try to get away with. I have dash cam footage of these people looking around to see if anyone is watching and then throw illegal materials into the bins when the coast is clear (semi-pun intended). When busted, it's, "Solly, solly..........." Most people back into the stalls, I park front first. Evidence needed sometimes. Like the asshole who knowingly put gyproc into the styrofoam bin.

These are little things, but they all add up. In this country, we all try to get along and respect one another. If you came from a dog eat dog, country where nobody cares if a child gets run over and left for dead, where the water and air is so polluted your health is at risk, try to keep this country clean. Isn't that why you're here in the first place? To escape that shit? /rant.


I need to take a break.........

[MG1]

No man!!! Fuck recycle!!!! I got garbage Nazis patrolling Richmond digging through my trash trying to see if I threw out food scraps and papers. Fuckkkkk thaaatttt, why do I pay my taxes if I have to do all this garbage work. If they wanted more recycling done then they should hire people to sort all that shit just like in Japan. Job creation and protect the planet at the same time !!!

And would you complain if your taxes went up? If everybody chipped in and did their part, there would be no need to hire people to sort.

This is assuming people would care enough to participate. It's not hard, man. It takes very little time and it's good to be a little more organized in your day to day routine. Try it............


While I'm at it, your tax dollars are mostly spent on healthcare. You know............. twice as many healthcare cards than there are residents. Fraud. Taking advantage of free healthcare. wAnder why it takes so long to see a doctor at a hospital emergency ward? Half those people in front of you aren't supposed to be there.

Another example. Come to Canada and have your baby, it's free........... https://globalnews.ca/news/4411137/birth-tourism-canada/

[CharlesInCharge]

All the apartment dwellers that have to take their organic garbage down for composting is just for isreal and empire building to make a profit.

The reason gas prices are high is to keep people poor so they can be keep being exploited to work long 8 hour days for years on end.

[Badhobz]

And would you complain if your taxes went up? If everybody chipped in and did their part, there would be no need to hire people to sort.

This is assuming people would care enough to participate. It's not hard, man. It takes very little time and it's good to be a little more organized in your day to day routine. Try it............


While I'm at it, your tax dollars are mostly spent on healthcare. You know............. twice as many healthcare cards than there are residents. Fraud. Taking advantage of free healthcare. wAnder why it takes so long to see a doctor at a hospital emergency ward? Half those people in front of you aren't supposed to be there.

Another example. Come to Canada and have your baby, it's free........... https://globalnews.ca/news/4411137/birth-tourism-canada/

Well what the fuck did they used to do before all this sorting shit ? The problem is they refuse to hire additional people to process all this crap but enacted all this recycling regulations. In Richmond for example they just gave a bunch of city manager's a boat load more money

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/one-time-payouts-bump-up-richmond-city-staff-salaries-1.23877575

And spend fucking tax dollars auditing the trash instead of hiring people to process it. FailFish

[!LittleDragon]

Not to mention recycling some items make no sense but people are so caught up in it. Recycling paper and plastic bottles spit out more CO2 than making new.

Growing trees for paper will suck CO2 for years/decades. Sending trucks out to pick up paper and running machinery to turn it into recycled paper will do nothing but output CO2. Trees are a cash crop, if people are recycling paper it'll reduce demand for the forestry industry to plant trees for harvesting.

[twitchyzero]

yeah because making NEW paper/plastics doesn't cost any CO2 either

trucks would have to come pick up the same tonnage of waste either way, what's lost is time in sorting

[twitchyzero]

tar sands are also a cash crop, if people go EV with hydro sources it'll reduce demand for Alberta's energy sector

one should also start littering in the streets, keeps the volunteers busy and also and start violent crimes, as it ensures the police have their hours, oh wait this forum is already doing a good job of keeping the police in check with car mods :troll:

[!LittleDragon]

yeah because making NEW paper/plastics doesn't cost any CO2 either

trucks would have to come pick up the same tonnage of waste either way, what's lost is time in sorting

Of course it does, never said it didnt. It's just less than recycling it. New paper products may even be a net negative considering all the CO2 the trees suck up when they mature.

[punkwax]

I failed ya Hobz because I give all my friends shit who don’t recycle or use their organics bin properly (where the latter is an option).

I consistently have two recycling bins full for pickup every 2 weeks and a good amount of organics weekly as well. It’s not a lot of work and once you actually see how much shit used to just be chucked in the garbage that doesn’t need to be, you’ll probably change your ways.

If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

:thumbs:

[Badhobz]

No I know what you guys mean, I just think the whole thing is poorly executed. The onus should be on the city who enacted the the bylaws to provide a better solution then rely on people who don't give a shit to do their job for them.

[punkwax]

More employees = more taxes bruh. Maybe start giving a shit and do your part. :)

[MG1]

No I know what you guys mean, I just think the whole thing is poorly executed. The onus should be on the city who enacted the the bylaws to provide a better solution then rely on people who don't give a shit to do their job for them.

This is Richmond, right? Different clientelle. The onus should be on the citizens. If Burnaby was full of people who didn't give a rat's ass about their situation, I can almost, almost, guarantee you same shit will happen there, too.

Then again, you could be right. Perhaps the shitheads you guys voted in should be hung from the rafters. Slapped back into reality.

[Hehe]

Well whatever, 40 years then hahah. I'm just saying spending 150k in an excuse to save gas isnt defensible. Better to keep your existing cars if you wanna save money.

I never said it was about saving money. Just so that I don't have to deal with the guilt anymore.

I can afford to put gas in my cars... but it does affect decisions on some unnecessary stuff like going out for a cruise in the afternoon to get a Krispy Kream or floor the gas pedal entering the hwy when the gas is almost $2/L (car needs premium). It's not that I can't afford it, it's that "being expensive" and "polluting" idea that simply turn any excitement off.

With an EV, I can do all that without having to dealt with any guilt. Heck, I'd even get free charging.

[underscore]

The amount of pollution from one vehicle is negligible in the grand scheme of things, and depending on how the EV was built and what is being used to generate the electricity the pollution is still generated, it's just done somewhere other than the rear bumper of your car. A lot of provinces are mostly hydro but in Alberta and Sask nearly half the electric comes from coal and coke and nearly half is natural gas. Europe gets most of theirs by burning things as well.

Gonna replace my DD with a model 3 now, and our van with a model X once finance is up in a year and I will laugh my FUCKING ass off every time someone complains about gas price again. :fuckyea:

Until enough people go electric and the same thing happens with electricity prices.

[UnknownJinX]

What's this "guilt" you speak of? Oh whatever. *Revs rotary*

I would honestly keep one gas or hybrid for emergency where I have to go on a road trip and charging just takes too long. If there is one thing I have to say about myself, I am very impatient. I will have anger issues if I am forced to wait for my EV to charge.

For a DD though, it's a good choice. Just charge the car as you sleep and you will be fine.

[!LittleDragon]

The environmental thing to do is to keep your current car as long as you can and drive it less. According to Wikipedia, it takes almost 9 tonnes of CO2 to produce an electric car. If you buy one, you already polluted that much into the air. Not to mention it's another car on the road assuming you're not sending your old one to the scrap heap.

If your car broke down beyond repair then it makes sense to replace it with an electric. If runs perfectly fine then just drive it less if you care about the environment.

[Badhobz]

I think I'll buy an ev if it was made by Honda or Toyota. I just don't trust that Elon Musk guy to produce a good product.

My solution to these gas prices is riding my scooter more. 500 bucks insurance a year, 5L to fill up and it goes 150km on a tank. I've been scootering around buying groceries, doing errands and going to work. It's friggin great !!! (Although this f150 guy called me a fag the other day, I just laughed and passed him easily while he was stuck in traffic.)

[Manic!]

I think I'll buy an ev if it was made by Honda or Toyota. I just don't trust that Elon Musk guy to produce a good product.

My solution to these gas prices is riding my scooter more. 500 bucks insurance a year, 5L to fill up and it goes 150km on a tank. I've been scootering around buying groceries, doing errands and going to work. It's friggin great !!! (Although this f150 guy called me a fag the other day, I just laughed and passed him easily while he was stuck in traffic.)

If NASA trusts him so should you.

[Badhobz]

I've seen a few of his cars and the quality is horrible. Feels like a beta tester product then a real production item.

[Ch28]

(Although this f150 guy called me a fag the other day, I just laughed and passed him easily while he was stuck in traffic.)

:lol

[BIC_BAWS]

If NASA trusts him so should you.Not a trump supporter, so I wouldn't be a Musk supporter either.

Have you seen/heard the shit that comes out of his mouth? Not to mention the multiple worker's rights claims or how he sought out to destroy someone's entire life cause said person wasn't on team musk.

Yeah fuck that guy.

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[MarkyMark]

(Although this f150 guy called me a fag the other day, I just laughed and passed him easily while he was stuck in traffic.)

Sorry about that.

[twitchyzero]

i only feel guilty when it's a nice day and i'm sitting in traffic when i should be on the bicycle

my new neighbor with TDI should feel ashamed they haven't sent it to the scrapyard/forced VW to buy it back

What's this "guilt" you speak of?

I would honestly keep one gas or hybrid for emergency where I have to go on a road trip and charging just takes too long. If there is one thing I have to say about myself, I am very impatient. I will have anger issues if I am forced to wait for my EV to charge.


modular & portable power packs are coming

[urrh]

I think I'll buy an ev if it was made by Honda or Toyota. I just don't trust that Elon Musk guy to produce a good product.

https://jalopnik.com/the-honda-e-is-the-electric-car-ive-been-waiting-for-1836042958
in the works for europe. it looks like a toy but i kinda like it. wonder if it'll make it across the pond

[Raid3n]

lol... do you think they deliberately avoided calling it the E-Honda?

[320icar]

Was the gas price fixing report released yet?

[quasi]

I think I'll buy an ev if it was made by Honda or Toyota. I just don't trust that Elon Musk guy to produce a good product.

My solution to these gas prices is riding my scooter more. 500 bucks insurance a year, 5L to fill up and it goes 150km on a tank. I've been scootering around buying groceries, doing errands and going to work. It's friggin great !!! (Although this f150 guy called me a fag the other day, I just laughed and passed him easily while he was stuck in traffic.)

That's aggressive, I mean I think it every time I see some dude motor by on a scooter but I don't verbalize it. :)

[68style]

Scooters are like fat chicks, so fun to ride you just don't want your friends to see you

[Badhobz]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ben-chang-KCmA9He637oic
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/27/14/35B4AA4200000578-0-image-a-20_1467033484487.jpg

Yeah it's pretty fucking gay. It gets less gay the faster I go though. 100+ down highway 91 is sick.

[punkwax]

Depends on the scoot. I get thumbs up on the ruckus when I cruise white rock beach and it’s not even that nice yet.. bit of a Frankenstein at the moment. I can go 70kmh now.. 74 downhill! :lol

Have a CDI kit to install. Hoping 80 is within reach :buttrock:

[Badhobz]

Ruckus is a badass scooter. I wished they made bigger displacement ones. A 400cc ruckus would blow my socks off. Even my 250 is a tad bit slow compared to the sportsbikes I used to ride.

[GS8]

Let's not forget the name of the scooter in GTA :lol


http://www.gta-worldmods.de/SanAndreas/Cars/faggio.jpg

[MG1]

Jeesus, that is so, so faggio..........

[blkgsr]

scooters in SE asia are awesome. 125/150 CC

wish we had them here and didn't need a motorcycle license to operate them