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twitchyzero
11-21-2017, 08:10 PM
hi RS community,

on Sunday night while working on my car in the front, I accidently opened my garage in the back-alley with the remote and some passer-by took a few belongings.

some used items that I was gonna give to charity, an empty box EleGiggle, a hard drive, some bike accessories and basically a spanking new carbon bicycle

after I discovered my things were gone, I spent few minutes trying to see what was taken. I heard rustling outside and went to check on it, found the thief with my bike in the neighbour's driveway. He tried to claim he found it outside my gate and booked it. At that moment I was more concerned about securing my bike first.

He was an Asian man in his 60s, had a slight Cantonese accent, walked with a slight limp, wears an aged blue bomber jacket...his profile fits those seniors who go around looking for recycling bottles. Funny thing, he was in my dash cam video...possibly scoping out round 2 but saw me return to the garage...i'm assuming remorse kicked in/had a change of heart and wanted to bring the bike back anon, who knows

already have a police report...just relieved to have my bike back and don't care too much about the other items...just thought I'd give those in the area a head's-up and remain vigilant...may be keep an eye out for this man as I wouldn't put it past him living nearby.

welfare
11-21-2017, 08:21 PM
Shoulda dinged that azz

Badhobz
11-21-2017, 08:57 PM
Fuck him. Fuck his age. Fuck his ethnicity. A theif is a theif. Hang him !!! Stupid gimped old Chinese piece of shit.

Presto
11-21-2017, 09:01 PM
he was in my dash cam video...

Is there a decent view of him on the footage? Can you post a screen cap or clip?

twitchyzero
11-21-2017, 09:18 PM
was raining fair bit that night, so the footage wouldn't help any more than my description

Sentinel
11-21-2017, 09:33 PM
I live 4 blocks south of you.

Quite often times see senior Asians in the alley looking thru the garbage/recycling bins.

During the summer, my dad grows squashes and other veg... some people have snuck into the garden and took some of the veg.

coneZONE
11-22-2017, 01:51 AM
I live 4 blocks south of you.

Quite often times see senior Asians in the alley looking thru the garbage/recycling bins.

During the summer, my dad grows squashes and other veg... some people have snuck into the garden and took some of the veg.

they're pretty damn aggressive.
When I used to live near Rupert Stn, they would literally walk up the stairs, open the gate and look around our rear deck for cans/etc who knows what.
Confront them and they're like "oh i'm just looking for cans"
Like fuck you, gtfo our property.
I don't care if they look through th blue box on garbage day but it's a different story when they actually get on the property

MSREE
11-22-2017, 04:16 AM
I live 4 blocks south of you.

Quite often times see senior Asians in the alley looking thru the garbage/recycling bins.

During the summer, my dad grows squashes and other veg... some people have snuck into the garden and took some of the veg.

People have taken your dad's veggies..?
That's fucked wtf

murd0c
11-22-2017, 07:21 AM
This sounds like a job for the RS Beat Down Crew

coneZONE
11-22-2017, 08:13 AM
People have taken your dad's veggies..?
That's fucked wtf

Maybe they were hungry...

Or maybe there's some sort of veggies black market. The squashes and stuff my grandparents grow are HUGE, sometimes bigger than what you find at the grocery

originalhypa
11-22-2017, 08:29 AM
People have taken your dad's veggies..?
That's fucked wtf

Indeed.
This is from October 2017.

Bandits in luxury cars stealing pumpkins in Richmond
Farmer puts up fence to stop drivers of BMWs and Mercedes vehicles from stealing his crop

People driving the likes of $100,000-plus luxury vehicles are backing into George Gens’ fields and stealing his pumpkins, prompting the farmer to erect fences around his G J Farm in south Richmond.

“I don’t know what to say; it’s hard. People look through, grab, that’s why we have to put a fence up,” said Gens, who immigrated to Canada in 1989 from Paraguay, where he was raised on a family farm.

“It’s not that they take pumpkin, it’s that they steal. I grew up in small place; no one steals; they need food, they ask. I don’t mind.
“If they come to us, they cannot afford, I will give it to them. I see many people; they are poor. They need something, I say take, take, it costs me $2,” said Gens.

But, “it breaks my heart to see a car — $80,000 — come and steal,” said Gens, whose rental fence cost $1,600.

This, he hopes, should prevent the BMW, Range Rover and Mercedes vehicles from accessing his fields. But many, he said, still seem undeterred as they move the fence's emergency exit to back their vehicles in.

Gens said he has only experienced the theft at such rates over the past four years.

“First we put a sign, ‘No Trespassing,’ and then we put a sign in Chinese and English. But people don’t care, they go right into the field and steal,” said Gens, noting all his big pumpkins have been stolen.

“When you see someone steal something that pleases everybody, I’m not too happy,” said Gens, who wakes up most days at 4:30 a.m. to start work on his 85-acre vegetable farm.

Gens said from his home he hears the vehicles come in at night, after his dogs start barking at them. He said even during the day he's confronted some thieves, who proceed to claim ignorance.
He said he's recently installed cameras, hoping to catch the perpetrators.

Bandits in luxury cars stealing pumpkins in Richmond (http://www.richmond-news.com/news/bandits-in-luxury-cars-stealing-pumpkins-in-richmond-1.23069403)




c/n's: Folks in 6 figure cars stealing $5-$10 pumpkins. Signs in english and chinese, but no fucks were given.

EmperorIS
11-22-2017, 08:32 AM
Gotta contact those Deans.

Doubl3_H
11-22-2017, 08:59 AM
Part 1
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/6v9bvw/caught_our_local_vegetable_thief_on_camera_by/


Part2
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/6w0vko/melon_thief_part_2_return_of_the_jed_melon_thief/

Rallydrv
11-22-2017, 10:47 AM
put up tire belt that police use.. . free pumpkins with cost of replacing tires.

pastarocket
11-22-2017, 12:10 PM
It's these greedy ass Chinese seniors that are part of the group of C-Lai's, the mainlanders that give CBC's like me a bad name!

Maybe if you put some empty pop bottles and a trail of salt near your garage, that should be enough bait to lure the geezer back so that you can take a picture. LUL

RS Beatdown crew needs a pic of this piece of shit before they can take action.

originalhypa
11-22-2017, 02:09 PM
a trail of salt near your garage

Did someone say salt?!

https://media.globalnews.ca/videostatic/675/427/2017-01-05T02-01-45.233Z--1280x720.jpg

:fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

twitchyzero
11-22-2017, 02:36 PM
wow cringed so hard at those melon thief footages
one thing to pick it off a tree accessible from the sidewalk...to open the gate, trespass and look around?
like the pumpkin farm article, JUST FUCKING ASK! chances are they'll give it to you for free..geez

hud 91gt
11-22-2017, 03:24 PM
Pumpkin Bandits - I'd be tempted to setup some sort of sprinkler system and turn it on and off from your living room. Maybe toss in some of those nasty pesticides, but that may make the problem worse in future years when the idiots start breeding.

Mikoyan
11-22-2017, 03:35 PM
I'm within 4-5 blocks south of you as well. If you have a Blockwatch group for your street, forward them the info too, they can pass it along to the VPD cop that's assigned to the BW program and forward an alert out as well to the other BW groups nearby.

Euro7r
11-22-2017, 06:16 PM
I'm in the area as well. Whenever enter/leave garage, I close the garage door right away. Always see idiots trying to peek in when they walk by or drive by. E.g. You look straight ahead when you drive, seen people looking into my garage as they pass by while the vehicle is going forward. Don't even have anything valuable in garage, just junk lol.

twitchyzero
11-22-2017, 07:17 PM
When I pull my car out of the driveway, I always ensure the garage door closes completely before driving off.

haha I love peaking into people's garage when I drive by...tells me a lot about their personality (neat freaks, cool hobbies, hoarder etc.)

I'm a hoarder living in a small suite so the garage doubles as a small storage. I've lived in the neighbourhood for 20 years and never had B&E or trespassers, may be time to install dummie cams?

coneZONE
11-22-2017, 08:32 PM
population's only ever gonna go up around here, might as well install real cameras

Obsideon
11-22-2017, 09:26 PM
Had a thief break into our garage last month. It was stupid of me to not have my car locked (however I have nothing valuable in the car, maybe saved myself a broken window?). Thief turned on the lights and my brother saw the light come on from the kitchen, so he went to check. My bro is a pretty big guy that goes to the gym like 10 times a week, he went into the garage and saw the douche coming out of my car. My london drugs sunglasses and a Groupon portable charger in his hand.
The thief made up some crap that he was hiding in my car from some "guys" that were looking for him. He said the sunglasses were his.
Coincidence that I was on my way home with my wife and drove into the garage 30 seconds later. I thought my bro was chatting with a friend when I first drove in. I got out of the car and my bro is like "this asshole is stealing our shit" so my wife called the cops while me and my bro told him to stand there or shit would go down. He kept trying to walk away but we held him back and stood in front of him.

Police arrived promptly (~2-3 min?) and arrested him. Cop took our statement, told us to go to a court date later on to prosecute him, if we don't go as witness he will be free again.
Cop said he is known to them, he has been stealing shit in the area for a while. A couple of cameras have recorded him but they couldn't catch him. He actually ran into an open back door during the summer and grabbed an iPad from a table.

Anyway so the cops searched him and pulled all his shit out, he actually had some needles in his backpack. Thinking back, might have been smarter to let him go... not worth the risk. But the heat of the moment I wasn't gonna let this petty ass thief run free in our area.

Cops said he will be in jail overnight then free until court date? And if we see him again, even just walking around our neighbourhood we should call the police again...
Honestly what a joke...

Rough description - Late 20's, Native, 5"11' ish, shaved hair. Stocky build.
King Edward and Oak Street area.

Badhobz
11-22-2017, 09:33 PM
That's Vancouver for you. I actually like living in Richmond for the safety factor. I've left my garage open accidentally a couple of times for hours on end. Nothing every gets stolen (knock on wood). That's the benefit of being in a cul De sac within a cul-de-sac. Everyone knows each other and there is no reason for strangers to entire the area.

welfare
11-22-2017, 09:38 PM
Again, shoulda dinged that azz.

welfare
11-22-2017, 09:49 PM
Problem with getting cops involved is that now there's a record of interaction. This guy ever decides to come back, and you say f it and knock him around, he can try and charge you. May have a good chance at beating you in court too.
That, and the guy likely won't see more than a day in a holding cell. Shoot, they let guys caught with oz's out on promise to appear. Then get probation.
And now you gotta go to court too. I tell ya, it doesn't pay..

Mikoyan
11-22-2017, 10:14 PM
Dash cam last summer came in handy. Wife was coming home and saw a sketchy looking guy walk out of our driveway. she circled to the front and saw one of the ground floor windows was open. At the same time, I was calling her as the house alarm was paging my phone. The alarm's set up to call me, rather than an alarm company.

Told her to call 911 as she got a good look at him. The cops caught him 15 minutes later a few blocks away, even before the police dog they brought over had tracked him down. Patrol officer recognized him due to the unique combo of clothes/shoes/bag he had.

He had stuff from 2-3 other break ins that day with him. All stuff with no Serial numbers. Couple of LV purses etc. Only thing he took from our tenant? Her passport and some costume jewellery. He passed up on a full camera kit and Macbook that he had rifled through. Cops said IDs were more valuable.

Cops had a total hard on for the dash cam video of him leaving the property. not as good as witnessing him doing it, but it put him on our property within minutes of the break in, with the B&E tools, and stolen property. Not to mention it's video evidence.

No bail for him apparently, as he was in breach of conditions already the cops said. Who knows. We got the summons for the court case a few months later, but the day before court, the cops called and said he pled guilty. Chances are with repeat offenders like that, you'll likely not to have to go to court.

Obsideon
11-22-2017, 10:51 PM
The shitty thing is with guys like this they probably don't mind going to jail to sleep for the night since it's so cold out.

twitchyzero
11-23-2017, 12:58 PM
yeah I kept a distance just in case they had tools...i don't even have as much as a crowbar or a bat in my garage for defense

how did he get into your garage?

this happened during the day?

Hondaracer
11-23-2017, 01:11 PM
Fucking justice system man wtf.. I envy the states sometimes in situations like this where fucking peices of shit can continue breaking into peoples homes and stealing their shit.

Don’t have a garage at my house so if someone was to break in you’re right inside the living room or kitchen. If someone broke in while I was sleeping or some shit, I’m not exaggerating in the least that I will fucking shoot someone who is in my home while I am there. I’ll give them once chance and say if you take another fucking step or move im gonna shoot, and if you take that step, you’re gonna get shot.

It’s honestly absurd that anything comes of people protecting their own homes by any means nessacary from some fucking crack head. It’s just my wife and I so it’s a little less disturbing, but if you’ve got a family with kids and whatnot and some guy breaks into your house, you’re gonna be rattled for a long time whereas the sack of shit that broke in it’s probably just another day for them.

Euro7r
11-23-2017, 01:24 PM
I've asked a police once about beating the shit out of someone that breaks in.

He said you are protecting your own turf, but to a extent you shouldn't beat him til he's dead lol. Like say you are home with wife, or wife and kids, you are protecting family and turf.

But you have to factor in, is it worth if the guy whips out a weapon like a needle or bites you during the altercation. These assholes don't got anything to lose.

RiceIntegraRS
11-23-2017, 01:29 PM
Well u also gotta factor in that there's gonna be some prosecutor or family member of the crackhead whose gonna sue u for doing it. He doesn't need to win or have a legit case for u lose thousands in lawyer fees and missed days at work to goto court to plead ur case. Is it worth it? At that moment hell yeah, in the end probably not

Hondaracer
11-23-2017, 01:37 PM
If it ever got to that point I’d drag it into the media so hard to make light of the bullshit I’d hope the public opinion would be enough to sway against the party suing you.

There is no grounds imo for some sack of shit or their family to sue you if the guy has a record of similar crimes and now they finally ran into some resistance. If someone is willing to break into houses and get arrested time after time, violent crime is not a big leap from there.

quasi
11-23-2017, 01:47 PM
Agreed, if he falls down the stairs well he's trying to assault you and his leg gets broken in the process that's just bad luck. His story is different like you assaulted him with a bat? Who are they going to believe? The Crackhead with a bunch of priors who just broke into someones home or the law abiding citizen who is in his home minding his own business? IMO it would be pretty damm tough for the shitbag to sue you.

I like to keep a 2' solid crowbar by my bed, if anyone asks my wife is kinky AF.

Tone Loc
11-23-2017, 02:28 PM
Agreed, if he falls down the stairs well he's trying to assault you and his leg gets broken in the process that's just bad luck. His story is different like you assaulted him with a bat? Who are they going to believe? The Crackhead with a bunch of priors who just broke into someones home or the law abiding citizen who is in his home minding his own business? IMO it would be pretty damm tough for the shitbag to sue you.

I like to keep a 2' solid crowbar by my bed, if anyone asks my wife is kinky AF.

This is where being really nice and co-operative with the responding police officer(s) would seriously help you out, as their statements will hold the most weight over yours or Mr. Hamburglar. That being said, the media has made this whole "suing you over defending your home" thing seriously overblown. If some crackhead is breaking into houses to pay for their next fix, they likely won't have the money, resources, or intelligence to hire a lawyer to sue you.

Personally, I'd rather take a lawsuit any day than risk me or my girlfriend getting hurt or worse. If someone's breaking into a my home, I don't know their intent. Are they there to steal my PS4, or murder me, or sexually assault my girlfriend? As such I plan to always assume the worst.

A cop buddy of mine said a good idea is to to keep a baseball bat in your bedroom, but with a catcher's mitt and ball. That way, if you ever have to use it, you're "defending yourself with a weapon of opportunity". In his words, "you're not OJ Simpson. They're not going to make you prove you know how to play baseball".

Obsideon
11-23-2017, 07:12 PM
yeah I kept a distance just in case they had tools...i don't even have as much as a crowbar or a bat in my garage for defense
how did he get into your garage?
this happened during the day?

Yeah reflecting back, not sure it was worth the risk to get jabbed with a dirty needle over it. I wiped down the entire interior of my car knowing his dirty ass was in there.

It's a detached garage so he got in through the small door.
It was around late afternoon.

MSREE
11-23-2017, 07:49 PM
A cop buddy of mine said a good idea is to to keep a baseball bat in your bedroom, but with a catcher's mitt and ball. That way, if you ever have to use it, you're "defending yourself with a weapon of opportunity". In his words, "you're not OJ Simpson. They're not going to make you prove you know how to play baseball".

I find our justice system so dumb for this reason lol.
So what if someone has something like a machete or Kris (those asian daggers/swords) in their room? Theyve never taken it out in public or hurt anyone. They just have it. Like all the Asians I know usually have something pretty dangerous in their house lol.
Not saying kill the intruder but if you hurt him with something like that, can you get in trouble?
Or what if it was something standard like a kitchen knife from a block and the resident just knew how to use it? Cuz technically anything in your house could be a weapon if you're mad enough.

Personally, I feel if someone invades your home while you're there then that person has a gravely malicious intent and you should be allowed to protect yourself and your family at all costs, even if it means killing that person.
Usually someone who does a standard b&e isn't the type of person to want an altercation of any kind.

My mom and I had a house invasion some years ago and they never caught the guys. Now you can bet I have weapons inside my home and I have enough knowledge of hand to hand fighting to protect myself. All Victim Services does is offer therapy and I think they pay upwards of a year for a security system.
I've also had a guy try to enter my home by force when I had a gf over.....luckily the boys came out and scared him away. He was very obviously gripping something in his hand, something with a handle and a metal end..knife/screwdriver maybe? So maybe I'm just paranoid now but it does happen.

If someone has weapons in their house they shouldnt have to justify that. Jeez, confusing hahaha.