[cocojoe]

I often see aboriginal kids picking on white people, black people, Asians, hispanics just about everyone. Is it because of the way they've been treated by white people? I mean it's white people so why the hate for everyone else?

[CharlesInCharge]

North Van... Are those bullies in the same economic level as the other kids?

[GS8]

I often see aboriginal kids picking on white people, black people, Asians, hispanics just about everyone.

You see it and do nothing about it?

Have you considered dressing up as a priest and threatening to take them away to residential school?

[yray]

lol why they racist to asians?

I bet 85% of the west coast natives have some chinese genes in them. Alot of their great great grand dad was chinese.

or maybe its the chinese genes... only chinaman can be racist to their own kind.

[MSREE]

Their community is very small and cliquey. Working in the DTES, I found they mostly hang out/date amongst themselves. I've never had an issue with Aboriginals myself though. I was always really nice and treated them with respect so in return they protected me from other people who tried to start shit with me at my old job. So overall, I've had mostly positive experiences with them.

I found lots of the guys tend to be really loud/boastful/aggressive in groups, or in front of other men. Alpha complex maybe? Of course, being intoxicated or high will elevate this behaviour drastically. I found they talk a lot of shit, but they rarely follow through.
Same could be said for guys in general at a certain age group though.

I've been in more violent physical altercations with white males than Aboriginals to be completely honest.

[SkinnyPupp]

Their community is very small and cliquey. Working in the DTES, I found they mostly hang out/date amongst themselves. I've never had an issue with Aboriginals myself though. I was always really nice and treated them with respect so in return they protected me from other people who tried to start shit with me at my old job. So overall, I've had mostly positive experiences with them.

I've been in more violent physical altercations with white males than Aboriginals to be completely honest.

You just described my early high school life :ahwow:

First Nations btw SeemsGood

[welfare]

Probably has more to do with the household they were raised in.
Of the native kids I grew up with, those who lived in a dual parent home where the parents weren't alcoholics or substance abusers, almost never made racist remarks or treated people different.
The ones growing up in a single parent (usually mother) home, with alcohol/substances were much more likely to segregate themselves by their actions.
Unfortunately, the latter scenario was much more prevalent.
From what I saw anyways

[minoru_tanaka]

You just described my early high school life :ahwow:

First Nations btw SeemsGood

You ever gone with the family to a Red Lobster?



https://i.imgur.com/Mnqvldg.jpg

[GabAlmighty]

I was never racist against Natives until I moved up north here... Albeit this is due to the bad apples ruining it/giving a bad name for the rest of them.

I often see aboriginal kids picking on white people, black people, Asians, hispanics just about everyone. Is it because of the way they've been treated by white people? I mean it's white people so why the hate for everyone else?

Because the white man/everyone else is behind ALL their suffering... You think it's bad there, come up here or go to northern Sask/Man/Ont and you'll see some shit.

[murd0c]

because they think they are owed everything plain and simple. I was shit kicked by a group of native kids when I was 5 and every since then I have really paid attention to how the natives treat people other then them selves.

[68style]

Try playing in a hockey tournament against an aboriginal team... talk about an eye opener

[Badhobz]

lol why they racist to asians?

I bet 85% of the west coast natives have some chinese genes in them. Alot of their great great grand dad was chinese.

or maybe its the chinese genes... only chinaman can be racist to their own kind.

Im pretty sure they are a couple of thousand years apart from us Chinese as the land bridge from Asia to north America was during the last ice age.

Still... We kinda look similar.

[murd0c]

Try playing in a hockey tournament against an aboriginal team... talk about an eye opener

I had a hockey tryout for the Bow Valley Eagles Jr team in Alberta back in the day, there was this native guy trying out that couldn't skate so every time he went on the ice he got into a fight. I was sitting next to him on the bench and I straight up asked him why he was here and he laughed said he knows he won't make the team but enjoys getting punched in the face...

I was straight up shocked and remember telling my dad after the game and he didn't know what to say at all LOL

[coneZONE]

Im pretty sure they are a couple of thousand years apart from us Chinese as the land bridge from Asia to north America was during the last ice age.

Still... We kinda look similar.

i think you forgot about the Chinese men who came here to build the railroad. Chinese women weren't allowed over during those times, so other than staying single, the only other thing was to marry over here/etc

[white rocket]

Why is this racism? People pick on and bully other people all the time. Just because a group of First Nations kids are picking on a white kid doesn't mean they're racist, it means they're fucking assholes. And assholes come in all colors.

[EmperorIS]

I met an aboriginal kid once. Turns out he was just Filipino.

[Berzerker]

My Wife and her Brother are both Whindians. They are totally white looking but are Native. My Father in Law is full Haida and his wife is White. Brother in law used to get picked on in school by the natives (northern BC) all the time and called derogatory racist names. One day he got picked up by his dad and they saw he was native and instantly they stopped. They have respect for THEIR elders and race but no one else.

Back in the glory days of "gangs" in North Van there was a huge divide. The "Gangs" were basically created to even the score against the natives that would go around and terrorize all the other kids. Shit I remember every time I had to go to the Quay or to West Van on the bus I had to make sure I had some friends meet me there to even the odds. BBC (Native Gang), UP (Deep Cove and Blueridge), NVL (Londsdale and Lynn Valley), aaaaaah the good ole days.

Even in Smithers, there is a strong divide between Native and Non Native. They further this by the the whole "this is our land and your on it" argument.

Berz out.

[Euro7r]

I've had 3 encounters with aboriginals.

1. Grade 8 highschool music, the guy would always make fun of me for wearing the same clothes to school everyday. I didn't grow up with wealthy parents and when you are a kid, no one got that kinda money back then to blow on different outfits. Eventually the guy left the school, no one liked him nor did he have friends. I guess it's their way to make themselves feel good is to pick on others.

2. This was like fairly recent, maybe two years ago. I went for a walk around my neighbourhood on a summer day and this aboriginal bitching at his girlfriend or wife and as I walk towards them minding my own business, the guy starts bitching at me and trying to start a fight like a tough guy. I guess he didn't get a good cock sucking or something...

3. Just recently I noticed this stupid aboriginal riding those scooters for handicapped in my alley. He was coming out of the alley onto the main road and this car nearly takes him out, starts bitching at the driver. If this was the USA, driver would have mowed his ass down lol.

It just seems like they always want to start something with others.

[invader]

I met an aboriginal kid once. Turns out he was just Filipino.

Dude, this made my day.

[GabAlmighty]

Even in Smithers, there is a strong divide between Native and Non Native. They further this by the the whole "this is our land and your on it" argument.

This. They did get fucked over royally, yes. But instead of taking all the handouts they are given and using them to their advantage, they sit there and complain about how life is so tough for them. And are some of the laziest people I have ever seen.

When they ask me for money up here I tell them to fuck off and that they probably make more than me from all their financial assistance they receive.

[Autorice]

I grew up with natives in my school. stole my walkman in gr. 1. i found it in his cubby and told the teacher. my relationship with them went downhill from there. and they yell at me randomly in the streets of Winnipeg but then again... it's Winnipeg.

[320icar]

I’ll take a page from euro7r. I’m Richmond born and raised, so not much native around.

1. In elementary school, one of my best friends were native. He lived a few streets over, I think his name was Cody. His dad might have been some sort of chief (but it was probably my parents being naive and assuming that since they “moved off the res”). He was the one to first show me Terminator 1 and that awesome Kyle Reece/Sarah Connor sex scene. I was really sad when he moved away.

2. Another friend, he played soccer with me for 10 years, went to the same elementary/high school. We were never close but we were friends. He lived near all my friends too so everybody was acquainted. Couple years after high school he came out of the closet and moved away. Really nice kid (though unique.. a little weird but innocent).

And that ends my interaction with native people. I have no qualms with them. Now ask people I know who work gov DTES positions.... probably very different

[dhari]

Moral of the story...it's not racist if everyone is being mistreated equally.
I seriously thought this was a troll thread:ahwow:

[Hondaracer]

Most seemingly successful native guy i ever knew personally was from my Bar days working at a few different clubs on Granville

Everyone Called him Cheif... weird.. he was the GM of the operation of a few different clubs i beleive, seemed like he did ok

fast forward 5 years, i'm playing hockey and i see him bartending at 8 rinks and a full blown alchy..

again.. WEIRD! :troll:

[carisear]

I seriously thought this was a troll thread:ahwow:


me too ... saw username, thought it was joe45 ... saw native in the title, and thought it would go straight to fc ...

[twitchyzero]

when you confuse halfies for aboriginals :okay:

[welfare]

I was never racist against Natives until I moved up north here... Albeit this is due to the bad apples ruining it/giving a bad name for the rest of them.



Because the white man/everyone else is behind ALL their suffering... You think it's bad there, come up here or go to northern Sask/Man/Ont and you'll see some shit.

No doubt, gotta live with some people before you go riding around on a high horse.
Cracks me up when people make sanctimonious remarks, yet never had to live with the ones they're defending.

[Mr.Money]

you've bumped into the most garbage throw away side of first nations.

so your story is like going to Compton & Thinking Will Smith is gonna kick you're ass if you look at him the wrong way in a whole Different area EleGiggle

OP needs to grow some Balls & don't expect everyone to like you,ton's of bad apples out there.

[westopher]

I got jumped by 4 native guys in edmonton and had the fuck kicked out of me when I was 21. It was 2 days after a car accident and my arm was in a sling after a dislocated shoulder.
Had nothing to do with natives being racist. Had everything to do with those particular 4 guys being pieces of shit.
Like white rocket said, fucking assholes come in all races, and everyone loves to blame any shitty altercations on ulterior motives.

[SkinnyPupp]

I've had good experiences with FN people and bad ones. I've had good experiences with white people and bad ones. Asians, etc.

Anyone of any race can be an asshole. Don't be an asshole SeemsGood

[MSREE]

You just described my early high school life :ahwow:

First Nations btw SeemsGood

Yay friends :fullofwin:

[evlee]

i get along with them just fine. they are my main supplier for tobacco and bottle rockets.

[GS8]

I met an aboriginal kid once. Turns out he was just Filipino.

Man, this comment reminded me of something...

Oh right

https://www.revscene.net/forums/707293-why-filipinos-more-welcomed-than-chinese.html#post8719964

:troll:

[mr_chin]

From grade 1 to grade 4, there was this fat native chick and her white skinny friend who would always call me a "chink". Not once did it bothered me lol.

Fast forward to high school in grade 9, was when they realized that they were in the Asian gangster era, and they never looked me in the eye again.

[MG1]

I grew up in the DTES and there were quite a few First Nations kids in the neighbourhood. Very few went to school, so we never really got to know them in that way. They stuck to themselves and we never bothered to seek them out. We had our own problems. The few i got to know very well were good kids. The ones who were problematic were the ones who had really shitty parents... as in they were never around to guide them. Later on in life, I worked along side a lot of FN folks while working at the fish processing plant. Really good people. I went to their houses on the reserve (Musqueam) often. Most of them are really laid back and friendly. I can see why some of them were bitter, though. Generations of wAndering with no focus or future to speak of. Abuse, neglect, low self-esteem, alcoholism, drugs, you name it. Given handouts by the government, very few of them wanted to better themselves.

They're not racist.......... they're more like really angry at the world. The government throws money at them, but nobody seems to find any real solutions. Take education, for example. The federal government pays for a lot of programmes, but it's money wasted, for the most part. Indigenous people around the world all face similar issues.

The leaders in their communities want something done, but they have no idea as to what is needed. Perhaps family life education?

As for the bad apples, no different from the Vietnamese gangs or the south asian gangs, the KKK, etc.

One thing I have noticed, though. They don't like to be told what to do. They hate any kind of authority. That could come from years and years of being oppressed and controlled?

Anyway, gotta go. This thread can be a positive one. Let's discuss further, shall we, RS?

Not focus too much on our experiences, but try to get at the root(s) of the problem.

Where's Native Russ?

[iHeat]

My little sister and her friend was placed in the wrong social studies class in high school called first nations education and she told me that all they learned was to hate white people.

[AzNightmare]

Kind of random, but I had an aboriginal friend named Grant back in Grade 2. He was only there for that one year and went to another school for grade 3. Long story short, I invited him over to play action figures and he had to go to the washroom. He ended up taking a dump and told me to come over after to see that he tossed all the TP with brown stains in the trash can instead of disposing it in the toilet and flushing like a normal person.

I didn't think much of it at the time, but seeing something awkward like as a child is hard to forget. But hey, maybe I'm the weird one that tosses used TP in the toilet.

[twitchyzero]

No doubt, gotta live with some people before you go riding around on a high horse.
Cracks me up when people make sanctimonious remarks, yet never had to live with the ones they're defending.

I'm not doubting the bad experiences with this group...some I am sure are real social problems instead of racial discrimination
but it's asinine to call others who haven't, sanctimonious

[m3thods]

Kind of random, but I had an aboriginal friend named Grant back in Grade 2. He was only there for that one year and went to another school for grade 3. Long story short, I invited him over to play action figures and he had to go to the washroom. He ended up taking a dump and told me to come over after to see that he tossed all the TP with brown stains in the trash can instead of disposing it in the toilet and flushing like a normal person.

I didn't think much of it at the time, but seeing something awkward like as a child is hard to forget. But hey, maybe I'm the weird one that tosses used TP in the toilet.

We're lucky we have toilets that flush into a sewage system that transports our shit far away. Some places in the world don't have that luxury, and to avoid clogging up toilets/septic tanks incurring large repair bills, they throw the tp in the garbage or simply use a tub of water and their hands.

When I was in Manila and needed to use a toilet in one of the SMs there, I immediately noticed there was no TP (no holder, nothing). Being someone who plans ahead, I always carried around a roll of TP in my backpack. What I did see was a "tabo" (which I'm sure is for flushing if the toilet malfunctions). But since there was no TP it doesn't take much to think about what people do if they don't have tp on hand.

[CivicBlues]

Yup, tossing used TP into the bin next to the toilet is pretty much par for the course for the much of the world outside of North America. Maybe that's the case for some Native Reserves too?

[Bouncing Bettys]

We're lucky we have toilets that flush into a sewage system that transports our shit far away. Some places in the world don't have that luxury, and to avoid clogging up toilets/septic tanks incurring large repair bills, they throw the tp in the garbage or simply use a tub of water and their hands.

When I was in Manila and needed to use a toilet in one of the SMs there, I immediately noticed there was no TP (no holder, nothing). Being someone who plans ahead, I always carried around a roll of TP in my backpack. What I did see was a "tabo" (which I'm sure is for flushing if the toilet malfunctions). But since there was no TP it doesn't take much to think about what people do if they don't have tp on hand.
This is why it is considered a no-no to eat with your left hand in countries like India, parts of Africa, etc. Since most people are right-handed, they use the left to do their bathroom business.

[twitchyzero]

But hey, maybe I'm the weird one that tosses used TP in the toilet.

do you even squat, bro?

[CivicBlues]

This is why it is considered a no-no to eat with your left hand in countries like India, parts of Africa, etc. Since most people are right-handed, they use the left to do their bathroom business.

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Many older European septic systems can't take toilet paper either.

[welfare]

I'm not doubting the bad experiences with this group...some I am sure are real social problems instead of racial discrimination
but it's asinine to call others who haven't, sanctimonious

Fair enough. Maybe a poor choice of words.

So then what word would you use to describe a person who claims to be morally superior with racial tolerance for a group yet has never had that tolerance tested for any relative length of time?

[mikemhg]

Met lots of nice Natives, don't think it has anything to do with race.

It comes down to socioeconomics, based in their economic class, how many of them have much exposure to different races? Why are rednecks in the South so racist? Bet much of that is their community, and their lack of exposure to different races and cultures.

People forget that Vancouver is a bubble, any many of us who post here come from middle-class upper-middle class families, which has allowed us to be more cultured. Heck my group of friends are so diverse, I can't really say I hand out with any specific race of people, but that's not normal in many parts of this country.

Poster, you sound exactly like some white dude talking about blacks in the US.

[BrRsn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22iBK4osDr0