[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html

I bet pretty much every country that participates has some form of doping program that is at least partly state sponsored (China of course, probably Jamaica as well since they benefit the most from developing champion athletes) if not "turned a blind eye" to (US and Canada and most of EU would probably fall into this category)

IMO let them all use steroids, at least the ones not in contact sports. Have a 'special' version for athletes who don't want to use them for whatever reason.

[Manic!]

Just to be clear Russian athletes can still compete but they have to do it under the Olympic flag not the Russian flag.

[320icar]

I think we should have multiple sports with no rules, as long as the athletes know the risk, let them!!! Make a new olympics with no boundaries on performance enhancing drugs, let’s see the physical limits of the human body.

Same goes for something like F1. Let them have as much power as they want with as much downforce as physics will allow. Let technology grow!!!

[ForbiddenX]

Icarus is a really interesting documentary that covers some of this.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80168079

[SkinnyPupp]

Some? EleGiggle

[SkinnyPupp]

Just to be clear Russian athletes can still compete but they have to do it under the Olympic flag not the Russian flag.
On a case by case basis, and they have to be confirmed to have passed non Russian drug testing in the past

[Obsideon]

I would think this would affect the team orientated sports the most as now they don't have any national pride to play for.
At least the individual sports you can still compete for yourself and win yourself a medal.

I wonder what hockey players are thinking now (Kovalchuk, Datsyuk, Tryamkin, etc)

[Jmac]

^ Reports are that the KHL isn't going to allow their players to compete.

[CharlesInCharge]

This is Zionist being Zionist... its all political.

[twitchyzero]

oh look, another Western entity playing double standards against Russia

no different than our feds passing the Magnitsky Act then ignoring ethnic cleansing and organ harvesting

[mikemhg]

The whole thing is stupid. Nothing is "natural" or equal anymore, especially with the dramatic changes that will happen in the future with CRISPR, etc.

Besides, if I'm an American athlete, I have access to modern nutrition, facilities (such as cryotherapy), or treatments to repair injuries such as stem cells that athletes in poorer countries would simply not have access to.

The Olympics are a sham and a joke. Let the athletes take whatever they want, and let's get rid of this facade of "natural" competition.

[Hondaracer]

stems cell treatments etc are a grey area yea, but i'd say if it comes to the point of let anyone do whatever they want in terms of steroids and synthetic enhancements, there's no point to even hold the olympics any longer.

Olympics are all about human feats not a doctor in a lab

[hal0g0dv2]

#NATTY4LIFE

[SkinnyPupp]

stems cell treatments etc are a grey area yea, but i'd say if it comes to the point of let anyone do whatever they want in terms of steroids and synthetic enhancements, there's no point to even hold the olympics any longer.

Olympics are all about human feats not a doctor in a lab
Doctors aren't human BibleThump

[Anjew]

much easier to just allow doping. push human physiology to its limits.

[Hondaracer]

much easier to just allow doping. push human physiology to its limits.

Then it just becomes formula 1, the countries with money win everything. There would never be a Usain bolt ever again because the American that had 30 million of R&D pumped into him would dominate 2-3 Olympics and live in a cryo chamber in between

[MG1]

Agree..... it'll all be about money and science. Sure, you can push the limits of humans via drugs and technology, but where do you draw the line? Win at all cost. We won an Olympic medal.... not because of the athlete, but the science we pumped into that athlete. Sad........ level playing field - no such thing anymore.


Performance enhancing drugs............ nuff said.



In the end, who gives a shit? Like mentioned before by others it has become a joke.

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

you don't draw the line ever. it's always a fair playing field.

if no one ever cheats in a game, then it must be a boring game.

life is the least boring game ever. we should push reality to the limits lol.

[SkinnyPupp]

Then it just becomes formula 1, the countries with money win everything. There would never be a Usain bolt ever again because the American that had 30 million of R&D pumped into him would dominate 2-3 Olympics and live in a cryo chamber in between
Right now all the money that is going into R&D is going into cheating the system. The steroids themselves are dirt cheap. Everyone is likely going to use the same shit. Test, Tbol, EPO. If anything, lifting the ban would even the playing field.

That is until genetic doping makes an appearance. When that happens though, it will be impossible to test for anyway really. If not, more money will go into cheating.

Easiest way to eliminate cheating and even the playing field - remove the pointless rules of no doping.

Also Usain Bolt is a product of this R&D, backed by US interests

[underscore]

there's no point to even hold the olympics any longer.

There's been no point in holding the Olympics for ages. The whole thing is a huge waste of time, money and effort. But if people keep watching it, it'll keep going.

[Rallydrv]

The whole idea of Olympics is a scam. All about $, kickbacks. At one point counties did benefit from hosting the games, not so much now. It's all tainted . Cost is transferred onto public.

[Soundy]

I don't think it's so much that so many Russian athletes were on the juice, or that the state backed the doping... but that Russian officials were actively involved in cheating the testing system - swapping blood samples, and so on.

[rice cooker]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html


IMO let them all use steroids, at least the ones not in contact sports. Have a 'special' version for athletes who don't want to use them for whatever reason.

I agree with this. That goes for all pro sports. Im here to be entertained.

[CivicBlues]

In America, you ban athlete from Olympics.

In Soviet Russia, OLYMPICS BAN YOU!

[J____]

In America, you ban athlete from Olympics.

In Soviet Russia, OLYMPICS BAN YOU!

isn't that the same thing just worded different.... :failed:

[murd0c]

isn't that the same thing just worded different.... :failed:

you don't understand the play in words...

Let me break this down..

Russia allows them to take the steroids but in the Murica they will ban their own athletes if they get caught taking them..

:failed:

[CivicBlues]

isn't that the same thing just worded different.... :failed:

In America, you fail poster.

In Soviet Russia, POSTER FAILS YOU!

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reversal