PDA

View Full Version

: Star Wars: The Last Jedi discussion. Contains spoilers.


DragonChi
12-16-2017, 06:31 PM
My questions/thoughts:

spoilers!

Abandon hope, all ye who enter!

...........

....................

................................

.................................................

Didn't Carrie Fisher die in real life? How did she finish this movie?

WTF, Yoda burns down the tree temple, says Rey doesn't need the books. Knows that Rey stole the books. What a troll. What's more, Rey is going to be self taught now?! Maybe she'll have more force visions. I really like the explanation of the force though.

LOL, Leila living out in space!

Snoke was a pretty shitty Sith lord by dying so easily, no character development, his death meant nothing.

even more LOLs, Emo darth claims supreme ruler.

Rebellion is in shambles, GG, literally 300ish people against a Galaxy worth of Empire.

Snoke says that he bridged Rey's and Darth's vision together, last scene they share a vision even though Snoke is dead. WTF is going on with this franchise.

Asian girl had pretty bad acting. Her dead sister could have been a better character for this movie. Though, as a technician, I suppose she fits the bill.

Cinematography was spot on during the last planet scenes.

SkinnyPupp
12-16-2017, 06:49 PM
1) Yes, filming and CG (I assume?). The CG parts were much better than the last movie! (if they were actually CG, I don't actually know)

2) Teaching Luke that he doesn't have to be the superhero, like he was in the Lucas Star Wars movies. That is the whole theme of this movie, going away from old school swashbuckling heroes, to realistic characters dealing with problems. It's a modern and better way to make this type of movie, IMO.

3) The Force is With Her

4) I guess he was the best they had after getting rid of Vader and the Emperor. Hard times for both sides

5) K

6) Yup how all Rebellions start. A small faction says hey enough is enough, and more people get the balls to join and fight.

7) He joined them. Now they're joined.

8) I thought Rose Tico was awesome! Not just another Pretty Face, but more like the engineer you'd see in a cool Anime or something. Absolutely perfect casting. Her sister was just a Pretty Face, though she did well in her scene

9) I agree

The movie wasn't perfect, but I thought it did an amazing job of moving away from the same tropes that have existed for DECADES, yet still remain a Star Wars Movie. IMO they successfully took the franchise, and modernized it for this time and age. Compared to most of the Superhero movies, it looks modern and fresh, and they look outdated and dull. Not in a cool retro way either.

DragonChi
12-16-2017, 07:14 PM
Retro plot.

Protagonist starts out in a dessert or isolated planet.

Gets found, does a spaceship chase scene.

Has to recruit help or find out info at a tavern.

Space laser to blow up planets.

Like Kenobi/Yoda, Luke merges with the force. Force projection was new though. I don't think they did that in any of the Star Wars films or TV shows.

Maybe there's more similarities. But I feel there isn't much original story, but a rehash. I would like to see more next level manipulation mindbending plot. Like, Gone Girl, or Prisoners.

I wonder if the rebellion will use child soldiers. That would be a good ethical dilemma point.

About Kerri Fisher, I think when she died, thought they said, they wouldn't CG her, after the Tarkin backlash. I couldn't tell the difference though, I thought she was real throughout.

I felt the Fin escape pod scene where she remembers her sisters dead, didn't really feel authentic. I mean, there could have been way more emotion if she was really that close with her sister.

Tim Budong
12-16-2017, 07:20 PM
Retro plot.

Protagonist starts out in a dessert or isolated planet.

Gets found, does a spaceship chase scene.

Has to recruit help or find out info at a tavern.

Space laser to blow up planets.



the force awakens lol

the movie was entertaining. The Skywalker bloodline can end and pave a direction.

but who the fuck is Snoke
u build up Snoke, and he just dies.. very similar to how Vader kills Palpatine

but still.. that was disappointing

Mikoyan
12-17-2017, 12:21 AM
Carrie died after principal filming was completed, not during.

68style
12-17-2017, 01:53 AM
I hated how the Admiral lady took over and didn't tell them her plan... why not? No reason whatsoever to hide that information from anyone! Half the damn movie got burned up with Finn and his new love going away to a planet and then sneaking onto the ship to deactivate a tracking device (which, for some reason, looks like a nuclear reactor instead of just a computer of some sort???) and it was all because that lady just wanted to pretend they had no plan............ for, again, absolutely no reason!!!

Also, her do nothing character had the best death ever, hyper-spacing through their fleet. Not like Luke, wtf was that bullshit. Looking at the sun and then disappearing after getting tired from projecting himself? And we're supposed to believe that he's so powerful that Kylo, with all his abilities, couldn't detect that it wasn't really him? Come on..........

Ice wolves appearing and looking so cute for no other reason but to, inexplicably, wait for the rebels to follow them..... cuz you know animals love to spirit guide humans to places right?

God... I could go on forever.... oh and the "chrome dome" joke... har har har that's the best they can come up with? Also, Captain Phasma is just about the worst super villain character I've ever witnessed in a movie... ate shit after like 2 minutes of screen time in Force Awakens and does fucking nothing in this movie too... but is marketed outside the movie as this big scary character...

OK I'm goign to stop there, it's making me too angry.

I felt like the whole movie was made for really stupid people, no nuance whatsoever, every point was like "Hey... hey... did you see what I did there?? Pretty cool huh?" in your face kind of bullshit like a comedian with bad timing waiting for a reaction from the audience before he continues.

Also agree with previous posters that Snoke was pointless and utterly useless.

68style
12-17-2017, 08:23 AM
Another thing popped into my head talking to my neighbour this morning... they STARTED the movie with this awesome new dreadnaught ship, kick ass!, and then proceed to have a "Can you hear me now?" slapstick humour bit making the fleet commander look like a complete fucking fool... seriously? Starting a movie about the "Last" Jedi with a Verizon commercial that might be funny to an 8 year old?

I didn't even get 30 seconds into the damn movie before I was like "WTF?" and looking around me to my friends and they were doing the same thing. DUMB.

Tim Budong
12-17-2017, 10:52 AM
I hated how the Admiral lady took over and didn't tell them her plan... why not? No reason whatsoever to hide that information from anyone! Half the damn movie got burned up with Finn and his new love going away to a planet and then sneaking onto the ship to deactivate a tracking device (which, for some reason, looks like a nuclear reactor instead of just a computer of some sort???) and it was all because that lady just wanted to pretend they had no plan............ for, again, absolutely no reason!!!

Also, her do nothing character had the best death ever, hyper-spacing through their fleet. Not like Luke, wtf was that bullshit. Looking at the sun and then disappearing after getting tired from projecting himself? And we're supposed to believe that he's so powerful that Kylo, with all his abilities, couldn't detect that it wasn't really him? Come on..........

Ice wolves appearing and looking so cute for no other reason but to, inexplicably, wait for the rebels to follow them..... cuz you know animals love to spirit guide humans to places right?

God... I could go on forever.... oh and the "chrome dome" joke... har har har that's the best they can come up with? Also, Captain Phasma is just about the worst super villain character I've ever witnessed in a movie... ate shit after like 2 minutes of screen time in Force Awakens and does fucking nothing in this movie too... but is marketed outside the movie as this big scary character...

OK I'm goign to stop there, it's making me too angry.

I felt like the whole movie was made for really stupid people, no nuance whatsoever, every point was like "Hey... hey... did you see what I did there?? Pretty cool huh?" in your face kind of bullshit like a comedian with bad timing waiting for a reaction from the audience before he continues.

Also agree with previous posters that Snoke was pointless and utterly useless.

the moment disney took over the entire franchise and made the expanded universe irrelevant, these butthurt comments will appear

dude.. i love star wars, i have issues with some of the odd plot choices, but u just seem angry because it isn't what you imagined

DragonChi
12-17-2017, 10:57 AM
Angry because this movie had no substance in plot. It's near marvel movie for eye candy and story line. That's about it.

Blueboy222
12-17-2017, 11:42 AM
:troll:

Mr.Money
12-17-2017, 11:43 AM
anyone find it strange too the sith lord had no idea the light saber laying next to him was gonna go off?....yet he had the powers to carry someone half way the entire room & even have the empathy to know whats going on with the person in front of him what they're feeling?.

it's like what he fuck....Are they gonna show the light sabors go off in a sith lords belt to kill them now....damn jedi powers increasing!

DragonChi
12-17-2017, 12:12 PM
In my mind, it was masked by the feelings that Kylo would had, as if he was really going to kill Rey with the lightsaber. The way that he died though was disappointing, totally anticlimatic.

About the hyperspace into the star destroyer thing. If it was so easy to blow up such a big ship with that tiny ship, why aren't they kamikazing any junker they can find into these star destroyers. Then again, that tiny ship was the flagship of the rebellion, so I guess they didn't have many of them to throw at star destroyers.

320icar
12-17-2017, 12:27 PM
Just saw it. Good movie but a few gripes about it in general

- 9:50 showtime, didn’t start until 10:22. That’s fucked up. Like $36 for two damn tickets, how dare they spend A HALF HOUR OF COMMERCIALS before the movie stars
- felt the movie was about an hour too long
- hated the lead Asian girl. Maybe I’m a cynical cunt but just like the other Asian Jedi guy, just felt shoehorned in to appeal to the asian market
- saw it in avx real 3D Dolby atmos whatever. Horrible movie experience. Picture was dim, the 3D gave me a headache (has never happened before), the audio was totally out of whack, too much treble/highs. And the parts that were heavily depthful for the 3D felt like it ran 10 FPS.

Good movie, I’ll enjoy a second viewing at home. For now though I think I’m done with theatres

DragonChi
12-17-2017, 12:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL5oCP0VIEI

Why aren't the nerds being consulted when making this film. WTF!

Honestly, a lot of what they're saying of what the film should have been is what made them great in the past.

I was really hoping that this film would be the slam dunk to the Force Awakens alley oop, but nope. I think I'm done with how Disney has handled this franchise.

Blueboy222
12-17-2017, 01:27 PM
:troll:

iwantaskyline
12-17-2017, 02:54 PM
The worst Star Wars I’ve seen. That sub plot just to have Finn/Rose/Poe have something to do was so fucking boring...Disney has ruined this series...adding those cute owl like birds was so pointless and obvious they did it to just sell merchandise to kids.

Why the fuck did that captain have to pilot the ship to her death when they high tech droids everywhere?!

DragonChi
12-17-2017, 04:59 PM
Agreed. I almost fell asleep during the casino side story. Totally broke the cadence/tempo of the story.

SkinnyPupp
12-17-2017, 06:41 PM
The worst Star Wars I’ve seen. That sub plot just to have Finn/Rose/Poe have something to do was so fucking boring...Disney has ruined this series...adding those cute owl like birds was so pointless and obvious they did it to just sell merchandise to kids.

Why the fuck did that captain have to pilot the ship to her death when they high tech droids everywhere?!
If you think droids can pilot ships, don't you wonder why they don't pilot ALL the ships instead of people?

UnknownJinX
12-17-2017, 06:48 PM
I enjoyed the movie. I am no critic and I tend to enjoy most movies anyway.

I mean, I don't pay money to piss myself off and find plot holes. I watch Nostalgia Critic if I want to know the plot holes and opinions from the more dedicated bunch.

The little bits of humour is good, though I don't have high standards for jokes so I don't know what other people think.

Luke gave me the "get off my lawn" old man vibe when he first showed up.

Just saw it. Good movie but a few gripes about it in general

- 9:50 showtime, didn’t start until 10:22. That’s fucked up. Like $36 for two damn tickets, how dare they spend A HALF HOUR OF COMMERCIALS before the movie stars
- felt the movie was about an hour too long
- hated the lead Asian girl. Maybe I’m a cynical cunt but just like the other Asian Jedi guy, just felt shoehorned in to appeal to the asian market
- saw it in avx real 3D Dolby atmos whatever. Horrible movie experience. Picture was dim, the 3D gave me a headache (has never happened before), the audio was totally out of whack, too much treble/highs. And the parts that were heavily depthful for the 3D felt like it ran 10 FPS.

Good movie, I’ll enjoy a second viewing at home. For now though I think I’m done with theatres

3:55 showtime, showed up 20 minutes late and missed the first tiny bit. I didn't expect the line in the post office to be that long. Shit tons of people sending out cards. I am actually surprised; people still do this nowadays?:megusta:

Agreed that the movie kinda stretched on when I thought it would end. Not in a bad way, of course.

Also agree on the fact that the Asian girl felt a bit like a long-minute thought.

Gotta catch up on the first tiny bit I missed at some point, LOL.

iwantaskyline
12-17-2017, 07:04 PM
If you think droids can pilot ships, don't you wonder why they don't pilot ALL the ships instead of people?

That's exactly it, haven't the droids in the X-Wings taken over and piloted before?

If she was a true leader she wouldn't give up her life when she could have commanded any of the droids, even three-pee-o to pilot the ship.

Then again she simply said "I like that one! (with a chuckle)" to Poe after he committed mutiny and almost jeopardized the entire resistance so what do I know. EleGiggle

SkinnyPupp
12-17-2017, 07:19 PM
That's exactly it, haven't the droids in the X-Wings taken over and piloted before?

If she was a true leader she wouldn't give up her life when she could have commanded any of the droids, even three-pee-o to pilot the ship.

Then again she simply said "I like that one! (with a chuckle)" to Poe after he committed mutiny and almost jeopardized the entire resistance so what do I know. EleGiggle
I'm not a huge SW nerd but I'm pretty sure they can only do things like plot courses, and of course do repairs. They can't actually fly them unless the ships are droids themselves (I think they are automated in episode 1 right?)

DragonChi
12-17-2017, 09:11 PM
In episode 1, the clankers, beige basic fighting droids pretty much walked, fell over, and shot off target.

I think the droids in the star wars universe can go on autopilot, just not for fancy flying, landing, or take off. The hard parts of piloting a ship. If it's basic highway style driving, even the cars today can do that.

Ch28
12-17-2017, 11:30 PM
BB8 was able to drive an AT-ST, so I'm sure droids are more than capable of piloting a ship to go straight at warp speed.

DragonChi
12-17-2017, 11:38 PM
Yup, driving a two legged walker the same as flying a ship that bends space and time are the same. Apples to apples comparison.[/sarcasm]

lol JK

If humans can fly that ship, I'm sure droids could have flown it straight. It doesn't even have to make sense in these new star wars, they could have put a droid in that ship instead of holdem or whoever her name was, and no one would have said anything.

Sir_Loin
12-18-2017, 01:45 AM
Agreed. I almost fell asleep during the casino side story. Totally broke the cadence/tempo of the story.

Those horse things during the Casino sub plot was sooo political, it felt like Disney was pushing it wayy to hard. Especially with Benicio Del Toro's character good guys vs bad guys selling weapons to both sides political bs.

MaREY Sue, perfect light saber technique with no training, able to move objects at least Yoda had Luke doing hand stands and training at Dagoba.

SkinnyPupp
12-18-2017, 02:05 AM
Rey has been fighting all her life, training with her staff. Seems reasonable that she'd be good with a light saber too, especially if The Force is strong with her.

As for Droids piloting a huge ship into light speed, while barely able to control an AT-ST, and not being able to pilot anything other than going straight throughout the series, I found the plot acceptable

What is stupid is that she didn't share the plan, or at least didn't give a good reason not to. Even if she suspected someone was a mole, they could have said so

Blueboy222
12-18-2017, 04:20 PM
:troll:

Mr.Money
12-19-2017, 06:45 AM
the idea rose popped out of nowhere and was automatically accepted by Fin off the bat,after her sister just died....how sure was Fin she wasn't on a suicide mission but he still said okay,Follow me EleGiggle

whitev70r
12-22-2017, 07:09 PM
What did you all think of what happened that fateful night between Luke and Kylo? So in the movie, Luke told his version first (leaving out the trying to kill Kylo part). Then Kylo told his version to Rey. Then Rey confronted Luke about what really happened and he fessed up.

Does Leia know what really happened? Was Luke carrying that guilt with him? Is that why he went into seclusion? If that incident did tip Kylo's psyche into turning to the dark side ... what is writer trying to say?

snowball
12-23-2017, 12:27 AM
I liked all the parts with Luke, Rey, Kylo and Luke's passing was perfect

Really weak on the side story with Finn and Poe this time. What on earth.. Rose.. it feels like the writers tried really hard to make the audience like her... Trying too hard = makes me like her even less. The kiss came out of no where and they dont have any chemistry. The Rey and Finn thing from TFW also felt really forced..

ScizzMoney
12-23-2017, 09:00 AM
I didn't really get how luke died. Maybe I should watch it again. Force projection or whatever is suicide? Leia doing the MJ freethrow line dunk was kind of goofy too.

DragonChi
12-23-2017, 01:01 PM
I didn't really get how luke died. Maybe I should watch it again. Force projection or whatever is suicide? Leia doing the MJ freethrow line dunk was kind of goofy too.

Oneness | Wookieepedia | FANDOM powered by Wikia (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Oneness)

Obi Wan did it in the original Star Wars trilogy.

Kamui712
12-30-2017, 04:49 AM
This movie should've been called "star wars: stalling for time" that is pretty much all the protagonist s are doing.

WTF Moments:
- 90% of the rebels died because of Po, Fin, & Rose's failed plan
- In the first battle, there were like 6 star destroyer cruisers but only the dreadnaught was fighting the rebels... why didn't they do anything?


Cool moments:
- Kamikaze light jump into Snoke's ship, really great effects and look. Loved it.

hotshot1
01-01-2018, 03:10 PM
This movie was shit.

The prequels were also shit movies but they at least stayed true to the Star Wars universe. This movie took everything and threw it out the window.

If you can come back as a force ghost and interact with the world then Luke should come back and kill Kylo or Yoda should summon lightning on Kylo. Movie over.

If you can hyperdrive into something then why didn't they do that before? Why didn't they do it to the original Deathstar? We're expected to believe that someone just thought of this now? And why didn't they do that with the medical ships before they ran out of fuel? Ugh.

How is Rey able to take on the Royal Guards when she's never had any training with the lightsaber? And how is she able to swim when she's been on a desert planet her whole life?

I can go on but man this movie was just horrible.

ScizzMoney
01-01-2018, 03:41 PM
Why are people so hung up on the 'Rey hasn't had any lightsaber training!!!!11! :yuno: PJSalt PJSalt WutFace "

In the Force Awakens she clearly has practice with a staff. In all likelihood she probably also has used a short one handed staff similar to a sword. When I first started playing hockey my parents bought me a plastic stick. As soon as I got a wooden stick it wasn't completely different.

Do you guys need every detail of movies spoon fed to you?

"OMG how can Rey run! She didn't have run training!"

Star Wars fans must be fun at parties

FN-2199
01-01-2018, 03:59 PM
I rate it 7/10. Cut out the casino planet visit and the movie is instantly a 7.8/10.

320icar
01-01-2018, 04:25 PM
Man last night at a party of 25+ people, everyone fucking hated it. I don’t see where all this anger is coming from. It was fine. A solid 7.5/10. Was not amazing, was not spectacular, was not shit, it was just fine. I was also fine with the milk scene lol. It was world building

white rocket
01-08-2018, 10:21 AM
Do you guys need every detail of movies spoon fed to you?

"OMG how can Rey run! She didn't have run training!"

Star Wars fans must be fun at parties

I laughed for a solid 10 minutes reading this :rofl:.

I agree with most of what has been said in this thread since I have now seen the movie. I suppose SW is put on a tall pedestal so the level of scrutiny is assumed to be high. Even with plot and physics holes throughout the film I still thought is was thoroughly entertaining. The hyper drive through the spaceship was an incredible scene and worth watching the movie for. Sit back, enjoy the cinematography, enjoy the fantasy world that is SW and don't pick it apart too much and it's an enjoyable watch.

GS8
01-08-2018, 05:32 PM
Just watched the movie. I already forget half the people's names

- Commander guy sent all the bombers do their death including engineer girl's sister. Did she have the force? That one final kick knocking the remote into her hands couldn't have been done through physics alone right??? Also, why was the dreadnought doing all the work while the other ships stood by and the rebel fleet hyper the fuck out of there? Then when they arrive again with Snoke's ship, they just pot shot them while the Rebel ship fuel depletes. So I guess Snoke's ship had nowhere near the armaments of a Dreadnought? Not even a junior Dreadnought?

- In the Casino, they were after the guy in the white suit but ended up finding Del Toro in prison who is capable of doing the exact same things? See all his codebreakers? I'm guessing hackers are the thieves in space? I feel like he's quite capable of escaping on his own but doesn't until the gets work maybe? Or was that the right guy I missed something?

- The damn birds on the island and the crystal foxes on the planet. Typical Disney shit. Amusing the first time and then annoying after that. Coupled with the 'rich city built on the backs of the poor'. I hate political grandstanding like this because it's not needed. Who cares about this planet and this engineer girl's rambling self-righteous diatribe. I could not attach myself to anything she said. Not sure if it was the acting skills or just another character to throw in the potpourri. I get they were trying to showcase the adventure but it was boring. The animals running through the casino (ohhh the vengeance) wasn't enough to salvage that scene.

- Snoke. Agree with everyone else. Very little screen time, it was clear he wasn't going to last long despite his powers. I always thought part of the SW lore is to have an epic bad guy but this one fell flat

- Emo Darth. Yup

- When they mass fired on Skywalker on the planet and he was unscathed. Wouldn't the first thing on everyone's mind be projection? Doesn't give Kylo much cred

Overall, I'd say the film had too much going on leaving me distant and not really caring which sucks. I didn't mind Rogue One so this was disappointing by comparison.

7/10

That interracial kiss though clicked all the right buttons for me OpieOP

M3E46Fanatic
01-08-2018, 06:31 PM
Didn't really enjoy any of the new star war movies with the new characters. None of these movies even come close to being half as good as the originals. The new characters don't do a good job portraying the movie

MSREE
01-08-2018, 06:37 PM
I loved chewie + the owls interactions and also the ice wolves/foxes. Snoke is super ugly and borderline terrifying for me so the cute stuff was relieving. I moreso saw it as BB8's movie and everybody else are just his supporting actors lol.

Gnomes
01-17-2018, 06:50 PM
Warp speed Kamikaze can be abused and overused. Can't they kill a death star with the technique? As cool as it was, I wished they never opened this option

gilly
01-18-2018, 10:07 AM
Warp speed Kamikaze can be abused and overused. Can't they kill a death star with the technique? As cool as it was, I wished they never opened this option

I thought exactly that too. But then I also thought that Leia would never allow people to kamikaze themselves but then again, I am sure you can program droids to fly the ships.

But hardcore starwars fans are saying that the rebels actually couldnt afford and have the resources to kamikaze their ships. They only have a limited amount of ships cuz they poor AF. lol

Speed2K
01-18-2018, 01:55 PM
I thought exactly that too. But then I also thought that Leia would never allow people to kamikaze themselves but then again, I am sure you can program droids to fly the ships.

But hardcore starwars fans are saying that the rebels actually couldnt afford and have the resources to kamikaze their ships. They only have a limited amount of ships cuz they poor AF. lol

They don't have any ships left to use in the next chapter. :fullofwin:

6thGear.
01-20-2018, 11:36 AM
This was so shit. Like who the fuck is Snoke. Absolutely no character build up Just terrible from beginning to end. Thank god I watched it for free

Tone Loc
02-06-2018, 07:47 PM
Saw the reviews and decided to skip watching it in theatres.... found it through an "alternative" source today. It wasn't terrible, but I'm a pretty big Star Wars nerd so I can't really hate anything that makes me relive my childhood. But it was definitely not as good as Force Awakens, or even Rogue One.

I'm not usually one to poke holes in movies but this one had more than I expected, mainly:



1) Casino side plot. Basically pointless. As other said above, just feels like a useless distraction. And all the animals (bird-looking things and the horse-like creatures) is classic Disney. I get that they're trying to rehash the whole Ewok thing all over again but it didn't work for me.

2) When Finn drags Rose back to the Rebel base after she crashes his speeder into him... how did he drag her for what looks like 2-3 kilometers, all while there's an entire fleet of AT-AT's opening fire on Luke's force projection right in between them and the door? You'd think someone would notice them, since everyone's pretty much looking in that exact spot already.

3) So Leia practises the Force now? How was she able to revive herself in space and somehow miraculously return to safety?

4) Snoke's death. They spent pretty much all of The Force Awakens making him out to be this super evil badass guy like Emperor Palpatine and he gets killed in the dumbest way possible. If this guy can supposedly bridge people's minds together across entire star systems he can't detect that the lightsaber 3 inches away from him is spinning and about to go off?

5) Imperial Guard. If I remember correctly, Yoda put two of these things down with a wave of his hand in Revenge of the Sith. Yet they almost kill Kylo Ren and cut up Rey? Unless this is the new improved version of them that can actually fight (it's possible).

6) How did Rey get out of that Dark Side "hole" thing on Luke's island? Looked like a long drop to me....



As for the whole "warp speed kamikaze" thing, I do remember in Return of the Jedi, Vader's Super Star Destroyer was eventually disabled when an A-wing flew into the bridge. When I was a kid I always wondered why they didn't just always do that.

Vansterdam
02-06-2018, 08:00 PM
I enjoyed it but agree the casino scenes were pointless. also the whole Snoke thing wtf?

Hondaracer
02-06-2018, 09:11 PM
Personally i really enjoyed the movie and thought this was probably one of the better movies of the "new" movies (everything after the orignal 3)

Plot holes are plot holes, it's a Disney fiction.

Ulic Qel-Droma
02-07-2018, 10:39 PM
Warp speed Kamikaze can be abused and overused. Can't they kill a death star with the technique? As cool as it was, I wished they never opened this option

OR

they could just hyperspace a larger ship into a planet instead of building death stars and star killers.

ScizzMoney
02-08-2018, 09:24 AM
OR

they could just hyperspace a larger ship into a planet instead of building death stars and star killers.

damn. I can't believe I never thought of that. You just put a whole new twist on the fuckery.

J-Chow
02-08-2018, 11:17 PM
Still didn't understand.

How the fuck did Leia survive that blast and fly in orbital space. She must been smoking up some hard shit to pull that off.

CivicBlues
02-09-2018, 08:32 AM
Jesus who the fuck cares, it's a movie. One that's been out for like 2 months now. Are we going to start arguing about why "Han shot first" too?

Hondaracer
02-09-2018, 09:18 AM
Still didn't understand.

How the fuck did Leia survive that blast and fly in orbital space. She must been smoking up some hard shit to pull that off.

cause shes a jedi nigga

SkinnyPupp
02-09-2018, 04:47 PM
Jesus who the fuck cares, it's a movie. One that's been out for like 2 months now. Are we going to start arguing about why "Han shot first" too?
FUCKING THIS.

SkinnyPupp
06-05-2018, 05:16 PM
I wonder if any losers here contributed to this? LUL

Star Wars’ toxic fanbase may have driven The Last Jedi actress off Instagram (https://www.polygon.com/2018/6/5/17429164/kelly-marie-tran-leaves-instagram)

Ulic Qel-Droma
06-05-2018, 10:27 PM
Are we going to start arguing about why "Han shot first" too?

actually if you've seen solo, then you know for sure han shot first. :badpokerface:

white rocket
06-07-2018, 08:04 AM
cause shes a jedi nigga

Easily the best post in this thread. Sig'd. I'm dyin' :rofl:

320icar
06-07-2018, 08:07 AM
I wonder if any losers here contributed to this? LUL

Star Wars’ toxic fanbase may have driven The Last Jedi actress off Instagram (https://www.polygon.com/2018/6/5/17429164/kelly-marie-tran-leaves-instagram)

No idea who she is, I don’t do social media and stuff. But her role was pretty awful in the movie.

But I mean, it was no jar jar

Traum
07-06-2018, 01:06 PM
Ex-big SW fan here until life got in the way. Finally watched the movie on BluRay last night. FailFish (And I still haven't watched Solo yet... FailFish FailFish )

For the most part, I didn't really enjoy the movie. As a matter of fact, I rarely found myself immersed in it at all, whereas with the Force Awakens and Rogue One, I found those to be really capivating even despite their flaws. Would at most give the Last Jedi a 6/10, and parts of the movie was really quite boring.

For me, the best part of the movie was the Luke - Kylo Ren flashbacks as well as the Yoda - Luke scene. I found both to be very meaningful, and their relevance fitted well to the greater SW universe. I also generally found all the parts involving Luke to be well done, and I dont particularly favour Luke in any way at all.

For the whole time, I was expecting DJ to reveal himself as the specific codebreaker they were looking for. It wouldn't have hurt Disney to do that, and I think it would have worked out quite naturally as part of the plot too.

Everyone already mentioned the casino arc was unnecessary. IMO, it could have been condensed into 2 to 3 chunks that didn't involve anything nearly as grand, and still got the plot they needed. It would also have shortened the movie into a far more reasonable length.

A very interesting bit that captured my attention was how a child Force-grabbed a broom. Then again, visions of the child Anakin Skywalker immediately came up in my mind, and OMG that was quite a disaster...

SkinnyPupp
07-06-2018, 05:11 PM
Solo was probably the best of the new movies, you should check it out

320icar
07-06-2018, 06:45 PM
It’s on Netflix so I rewatched it. I absolutely hated any part with Finn and Rose. So absolutely ham fisted and clunky. I really really liked any scene with Rey and Kylo. They had such an interesting chemistry, and every scene where they ‘visited’ each other had my attention. But if course they fucked it up by making him stay even and having her stay good.

Traum
07-07-2018, 11:51 PM
It’s on Netflix so I rewatched it. I absolutely hated any part with Finn and Rose. So absolutely ham fisted and clunky. I really really liked any scene with Rey and Kylo. They had such an interesting chemistry, and every scene where they ‘visited’ each other had my attention. But if course they fucked it up by making him stay even and having her stay good.
I feel somewhat different about the Rey and Kylo Ren scenes. Some of them were good, but some of them felt forced, or maybe even comical. There was one scene when Kyle Ren wanted to connect to Rey, and Rey blurted out something along the lines of "No, not right now!" The first thing I thought of was some 90's teen soap opera where they were calling each other on the phone.
:badpokerface:

Corny to say the least.

Jmac
07-08-2018, 02:26 AM
Didn't see it in theatres, watched on Netflix tonight. Probably a 6.5/10 movie for me.

The opening scene with Poe set the tone for me with a phone prank and mother jokes. Like come on ... Obviously, I'm not a Star Wars fan otherwise I would've seen it in theatres, but even I felt that was face-palm worthy and really lost the immersion right off the bat.

There were some okay parts, more than a few eye-rolls, story was meh, cinematics were to expectations for a big budget movie.

snowball
07-10-2018, 01:27 AM
Didn't see it in theatres, watched on Netflix tonight. Probably a 6.5/10 movie for me.

The opening scene with Poe set the tone for me with a phone prank and mother jokes. Like come on ... Obviously, I'm not a Star Wars fan otherwise I would've seen it in theatres, but even I felt that was face-palm worthy and really lost the immersion right off the bat.

There were some okay parts, more than a few eye-rolls, story was meh, cinematics were to expectations for a big budget movie.

Man, star wars was really supposed to be a somewhat serious movie with some humour here and there. They totally ruined the mood with comedy, cuteness, and cheesiness everywhere. The new trilogy is like a wannabe mcu but the original star wars were supposed to be more serious like rogue one.

underscore
07-10-2018, 07:12 AM
I finally got around to watching it, I figured I'd be disappointed after TFA and R1 but this was probably worse than expected. The part that boggles my mind is that Disney is huge, the budget for these films is huge (as evidenced by the CGI, etc) yet it seems like the writers are college dropouts that accidentally wandered into a "Creative Writing 101" lecture that they hired for beer money. Why do they seem to be going with almost deliberately poor plots? How do huge teams of people sign off on some of this stuff as a good idea?

winson604
07-13-2018, 09:12 AM
Man, star wars was really supposed to be a somewhat serious movie with some humour here and there. They totally ruined the mood with comedy, cuteness, and cheesiness everywhere. The new trilogy is like a wannabe mcu but the original star wars were supposed to be more serious like rogue one.

Next to the OG 3 Rogue One is easily my 4th favorite Star Wars movies with the other 5 being garbage and Solo being just ok.

m3thods
07-13-2018, 11:17 AM
Man, star wars was really supposed to be a somewhat serious movie with some humour here and there. They totally ruined the mood with comedy, cuteness, and cheesiness everywhere. The new trilogy is like a wannabe mcu but the original star wars were supposed to be more serious like rogue one.

Unlike the original trilogy, this new one is clearly Disney-fied to please their main demographic which is young kids.