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m4k4v4li
01-04-2018, 09:55 AM
Has anyone ever been summoned for jury duty? (criminal case)
any tips on how to get out of it
My employer likely will not be lenient in terms of compensation, in additional I'll have to crank out a lot of extra hours to catch up / stay on top
I understand its apart of my civic duty but just very worried the trial may drag on for a long time
appreciate any insight / feedback
Great68
01-04-2018, 10:11 AM
My wife and I were both summoned at the exact same time in November, for trials a week apart.
My wife used the "I'm on Mat Leave with a 5 month old and my baby isn't weaned" excuse.
I used the "My wife is on mat leave and it would cause financial hardship to be out of paid work for 3 weeks" excuse (not really true but they don't need to know that)
My work also wrote a letter in stating that my absence would adversely affect the company.
We both got pardoned.
My wife also got a summons about a year earlier when she was 4 months pregnant, so stupid. You'd think they ministry would keep SOME sort of record of who they're sending summonses to and their reasons for excuse and someone could say "Hey this woman was pregnant a year ago, she won't be able to be a juror now so don't bother sending her the summons"
MSREE
01-04-2018, 10:25 AM
I was in October. I sent them a very long descriptive and uncomfortable blurb about my medical condition on the website. Needless to say I was pardoned within 12 hrs lol. If I was well, I would have done it though. The one I got summoned for sounded abnormally extensive.
Hondaracer
01-04-2018, 10:51 AM
Unless you’re in some union situation where you are fully compensated why would anyone go?
My buddy who works for the VSB got summoned and even the VSB wasn’t going to compensate for the lost wages so he got out of it. Force bums on welfare or EI to go.
Infiniti
01-04-2018, 10:57 AM
I have been summoned once, but got out of it since I was a full time student. Keep in mind though, just because you get summoned doesn't mean you'll be selected as a juror. I know a few people who were willing to go through with the process and were not selected.
fliptuner
01-04-2018, 11:16 AM
I guess I can make it. He's probably guilty as fuck anyways. Meals are included, right? Do I get to witness the injection? I bet just a taste feels pretty good - you can tell me.
murd0c
01-04-2018, 11:23 AM
show up wearing a white power shirt and you won't have to worry about being selected.
MarkyMark
01-04-2018, 11:26 AM
I've been summoned twice, luckily the second time it was cancelled before the actual selection process. The first time I actually went to selection because my work paid for it and I didn't really have a legitimate excuse not to. I got to the place and there was probably a couple hundred people there and they only selected a handful of people, so even if your summoned the odds of you being selected are quite low.
Anyways it seemed like every other person that they did pick had an excuse ready as to why they couldn't do it, and it didn't sound like they were very strict as I don't recall them denying anyone who tried to get out of it.
All in all it was just a big waste of time and waiting around. This was in New West btw. Just dress like a Surrey Jack and they will probably not even want you if you're selected anyways.
fliptuner
01-04-2018, 11:27 AM
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320icar
01-04-2018, 11:42 AM
Uh, aren’t all employers under obligation to pay you while you do jury duty? Never in my life have I heard of someone NOT getting paid while doing jury duty. I had a manager gone for about 6 months last year due to jury duty (that case must have been fucking horrible)
Great68
01-04-2018, 12:02 PM
Uh, aren’t all employers under obligation to pay you while you do jury duty? Never in my life have I heard of someone NOT getting paid while doing jury duty. I had a manager gone for about 6 months last year due to jury duty (that case must have been fucking horrible)
Nope. It's a perk if an employer pays, but not required by law.
You get daily compensation from the government as follows:
First 10 days: $20 a day
11 to 49 days: $60 a day
50 days or more: $100 a day
vitaminG
01-04-2018, 12:40 PM
My wife also got a summons about a year earlier when she was 4 months pregnant, so stupid. You'd think they ministry would keep SOME sort of record of who they're sending summonses to and their reasons for excuse and someone could say "Hey this woman was pregnant a year ago, she won't be able to be a juror now so don't bother sending her the summons"
i think id prefer random government bodies dont keep track of what i am doing.
ive been summoned twice, both times i just wrote a letter outlining my reasons for not being able to go.
Bouncing Bettys
01-04-2018, 12:48 PM
I was summoned once. I had just finished my 2 weeks at an old job and was scheduled to start training at a new job. I wrote a letter explaining that the time away would disrupt this training and potentially cause me to lose the position and I was granted a pass.
pastarocket
01-04-2018, 01:03 PM
Has anyone ever been summoned for jury duty? (criminal case)
any tips on how to get out of it
My employer likely will not be lenient in terms of compensation, in additional I'll have to crank out a lot of extra hours to catch up / stay on top
I understand its apart of my civic duty but just very worried the trial may drag on for a long time
appreciate any insight / feedback
Wear a baseball cap to the jury selection and scream "Make America great again!". LUL
Just act like a complete jackass. :lawl:
Great68
01-04-2018, 02:06 PM
i think id prefer random government bodies dont keep track of what i am doing.
Hahaha good luck with that!
Keeping track of previous summons requests and excusable information is something they actually already do.
https://jurysummons.gov.bc.ca/
That information is there, just need to train that monkey that sends out the new summonses to run the selected names against past summons history or those with the same surname and address.
There should never be a situation like mine where the two Adults of the household are summoned at the same time for trials that could potentially overlap. If they wanted to be dicks about it and forced us both in, I'm not sure what I would have done. If that happened I told the wife: Just show up at the courthouse with the baby
Mancini
01-04-2018, 02:10 PM
Jury duty. Where the Defendants fate is determined by a selection of people not smart enough to get out of the process.
Badhobz
01-04-2018, 02:13 PM
if youre ethnic its easy.
ME NO ENGRISH
MarkyMark
01-04-2018, 02:14 PM
Why don't they reserve jury duty for old retired people, instead of watching Matlock they could live it.
winson604
01-04-2018, 02:18 PM
My dad was summoned once and I helped him write a letter stating English is his 2nd language and while he can speak English, the level of English in which will be related will.be beyond his comprehension. He got pardoned.
I just wrote them an email stating that my work wasn't going to cover my lost wages and that it'd cause me financial hardship. Got an email response back the next morning saying I was excused.
Bouncing Bettys
01-04-2018, 03:07 PM
Why don't they reserve jury duty for old retired people, instead of watching Matlock they could live it.
Because playing video games or talking back would be enough to secure a conviction, guilty or not.
Why don't they reserve jury duty for old retired people, instead of watching Matlock they could live it.
I've been asked 4, maybe 5 times. When the Pickton case came up, I was so pumped to go. Sadly, I didn't make the cut.
And no, I don't watch Matlock......... maybe you do?
god bless
EDIT: I think you'd be a great juror. I'd vouch for you.
MarkyMark
01-04-2018, 05:17 PM
I'd take some old guy with nothing to do while collecting a pension vs. some bitter guy who's not getting paid and doesn't want to be there lol
Sad, if all the seniors you know fit that description.
Most seniors have worked hard their entire life and still find the time to volunteer and make a difference. I take offence to your stereotypical comments. Then again, I don't know you from a fucking hole in the wall. What goes around comes around........... I hope you get yours soon and hard.
no god bless in this one....... nuff said.
Here I am being bitter again. Fuck!
Bitter than being PJSalt
I'm just yankin' your chain, Marky.
MarkyMark
01-04-2018, 05:41 PM
Wow lol struck a nerve I suppose
Not really............ but whatever.
!LittleDragon
01-04-2018, 07:04 PM
Was summoned once for a criminal case. The letter said it could take up to 12 weeks. I was in the middle of building a new datacenter. Had my employer write a letter and I wrote in as well saying I support my elderly parents. Was dismissed a few hours later.
Don't mind if it's a few days or a week tops but a full quarter, forget it.
zetazeta
01-05-2018, 10:59 AM
Was selected last year and I would've been down to do it but the case was estimated to be 2-3 months long....
I requested to be excused due to financial hardship experienced. Mentioned that I am only a few years out of school, not making a lot a lot of money, and living on my own. 2-3 months of jury compensation would cause me financial hardship. Was excused the next morning.
IMASA
01-05-2018, 11:10 AM
What is the amount of the jury compensation?
Seems like for most people who are still paying their mortgages, who can afford to take time off work for jury duty? I'm not living paycheck to paycheck and have a few months of mortgage payments saved up in my emergency fund, but why would I want to dip into that for jury duty, as it would set me back financially for a few months/years to build up that emergency fund again.
ancient_510
01-20-2018, 07:24 PM
any tips on how to get out of it
There is a way to get out of jury duty with 100% reliability.
Privately, state to the judge/justice/clerk/crown prosecutor that "I am aware of the concept of jury nullification."
Do not state this in a way which other jurors or potential jurors could hear, that could be considered Obstruction.
Do not state that you are actually going to nullify, that could be considered Contempt.
ps. Don't research jury nullification if you ever actually want to actually serve on a jury.
MRSky88
01-25-2018, 06:19 AM
Nope. It's a perk if an employer pays, but not required by law.
You get daily compensation from the government as follows:
First 10 days: $20 a day
11 to 49 days: $60 a day
50 days or more: $100 a day
Just wanted to point out, I have been on the jury, and this only applies *while* you're in deliberation, not the start of the trial.
While in deliberation, 3 meals a day, and all meals paid for because of course you physically cannot go home.
Phones or any other electronics are confiscated so you cannot contact anyone - if trial extends further, you are allowed to make one call to get someone to bring you change of clothing.
*While still in trial - all your transit/parking fees - you will pay upfront (you must provide receipt for parking). It will be paid back to you as a lump sum at the end as a cheque. If you choose to drive, only an excess of 30km driven a day will be compensated.
LOL wait... So I can sit for a 100day trial and only end up getting $140 because deliberation was only a week?
MRSky88
01-25-2018, 06:13 PM
LOL wait... So I can sit for a 100day trial and only end up getting $140 because deliberation was only a week?
Unfortunately very true.
I feel bad for the pickton jury..I spoke to a lady that was on that jury. 10 months sitting in trial only for everyone to unanimously vote him guilty on the first day.
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