[Hondaracer]

A lot of people probably read the title and think “no shit” but it’s gotten to critical levels for the company as a whole imo and not just regarding the Burger King ownership.

As far as I’m concerned they are amongst, if not, the worst, most incompetent fast food chain going right now.

I haven’t gone to Tim’s as much as I have in the past but when I do, the level of service and quality of is laughable.

I can remember when Tim’s first started serving sandwiches and it was actually a good product for a good value, you’d get a sandwich hand crafted with fresh ingredients made with at least an ounce of effort, now the product -every- time is something from those memes of McDonald’s burgers where you see the ad VS the real thing.

I’ve gone to Tim’s about 5 times in the last 6 months, every time it’s been exactly the same:

“Hi there could I get a chili and a coffee?”

“Sorry we have no chili”

“Ok what kind of soup do you have?”

“We have no soup”

The other day I was going to visit my grandma I had already ate but I was going to pick her up lunch

“Ok can I get a soup and sandwich combo, I’ll have the ham and Swiss on whole wheat please”

“Ok we don’t have Swiss is cheddar ok?”

“Fine that’s ok”

“Oh and we don’t have whole wheat is white ok?”

Yea I guess..

“Ok and what soup would you like? Actually sorry we only have chicken noodle”

...

This is the situation at all 5-6 tims I’ve been to in the last year. And it’s not that I’m there at the end of the day or during a “busy” time.

If you hold Tim’s stock or have any stake in the company, get out while you can.

[GLOW]

i thought it was going to be a post along the lines of servers having to know how to speak mandarin or else it's a human rights violation Kappa

[MarkyMark]

I fucking hate Timmy's, their food tastes like cardboard, their coffee is shit, and the drive thru is always lined around the whole building. Haven't been there in months.

[N.V.M.]

ESL Filipinos. Thats all i fucking see.

[ilovebacon]

i like timmys coffee. its not like any other coffee, its more sweeter.

[Presto]

Timmy's doesn't give a shit anymore. My wife hasn't had a properly made french onion soup in years.

[ScizzMoney]

Timmy's are franchised. Your experience will be different at different ones. I've been to some that are great, and some that are shit. To elaborate, some owners actually care about their place more than others do. So, they hire the right people.

I saw a black guy rob a store once when I was a kid. So I guess all black people rob stores.

[SkinnyPupp]

It went to shit when they started using frozen reheated donuts 15 years ago or whenever it was. Not that they were ever great, but they have been horrible for a very long time. Their popularity is more meme than anything IMO

[320icar]

Timmy's doesn't give a shit anymore. My wife hasn't had a properly made french onion soup in years.

Not sure how they can get it wrong. You just slice the bag open and pour it into the warming tray :/

[welfare]

Their prices are ridiculous now and the food has gone downhill. That's how I felt a few years ago, the last time I set foot in one. That's when I said nope. Never ever again. I can only imagine now.
And I don't know what that stuff is, but it ain't coffee. Not IMO

[BaoTurbo]

After I realized I can't stop my coffee keep spilling in my car cupholder I made the switch the McDonalds.

[Liquid_o2]

McDonalds is the only fast food coffee people should be drinking.

I remember I swore off Tim Hortons a few years ago when they changed their Tuscan Chicken Panini... when it first came out it was pretty good, I was surprised. Then one day I got it and the bread changed and the ingredients looked like a pile of shit.

[donk.]

dont know what you guys are whining about. Dont like what you see? Dont look.

i probably stop by 10 times a month, for whatever im feeling like, some locations are slow as F, and the main ones i go to are quicker than any other fast food chain.

Each to their own.

[quasi]

I used to be a Tim Hortons guy probably 15 years? I'd stop every morning on my way to work and usually at least two other times a day well I was working.

I agree with everything you said, they never anything in stock the stuff they do have is the most tasteless garbage available from any fast restaurant chain. The coffee is absolutely horrible.

I never almost never go there anymore and if I was going there I sure as shit wouldn't get the coffee.....how do you not do the coffee right?

Edit: Bagels are the only thing on the menu they seldom fuck up and are somewhat edible.

[MSREE]

ESL Filipinos. Thats all i fucking see.

We're the Mexicans of Canada how dare yOU PJSalt

I like the bagels and cheese biscuits at Tims. As far as real food goes, it's always been shit lol. The only people I've ever known to order sandwiches and soup from there in my life have all been the kind of white people who think Frank's Red Hot is a real hot sauce.

[Mr.Money]

i guess the manager's don't care and hire shit bag workers...

[Vansterdam]

75% of the time I go their out of soup, bread or not everything on the menu is available

[jasonturbo]

Tim Hortons is a bit like Ford/GM during the late 90's, the only reason they have sales are these die-hard brand dick riders that refuse to even consider that better products and services are available elsewhere.

McDonalds>Tim Hortons

[ae101]

I use to really love Tim Horton coffee, me and my dad are huge coffee/tea guys (we have an coffee machine as well as a grinder at home and my dad would pretty much have coffee from morning till 3pm while tea all day long)

But sadly Mc cafe has really got them beat in term of quality and price over past couple of years, which is at point where we don't even make our own coffee at home anymore cuz Mc cafe is a much better option for us and the only time I ever visit tims is at the airport (first thing I buy when I land is tims and last thing I buy when I leave is also tims)

Tims coffee isn't bad, but they just got out beaten (stopped going to tims for food for years now cuz food quality and service is crap, plus I always get unlucky when I'm there)

[twitchyzero]

while OP's complaint is legit, the rest of the posts are kinda ironic/funny

I mean this is the only forum I know with a gigantic I love mickie D's thread

overpriced? have you ordered a regular meal at mcdonald's recently?

if I'm up before 6, and I just need a quick fix, i'll go to timmies

I don't drink coffee, some times I'll get timbits. Is it straight from the oven fresh like a mom and pop's place? no but for spare change I don't care that much esp when I'm barely awake. I will say ice cap as a seasonal drink for me is very hit and miss, some times it's almost as if it's half water

service...why would I expect or care about decent service from a fast food corporation? Just hand me my damn food. If it's really disappointing i'll send it back. Don't need to put that much thought into it, imo

[Bonka]

McDonalds is expensive, no doubt. Consider this, I can walk into any random McDonalds and 99% of the time, what I want to order on the menu is available. The rare exceptions are when they are out of syrup for the fountain machines or when they have some promo out that brings out every cheapskate known to man.

On the other hand, I've made it a game to see how many locations I need to go to before I can get something other than an ice cap or a toasted bagel. It's a wonder there are so many of them, I'd need to visit 3-4 locations to complete a meal lol. You're not even settling on your 2nd, 3rd choices in many cases because they don't have the stock. Morons run these franchises.

Will pay a premium to get what I want.

[welfare]

while OP's complaint is legit, the rest of the posts are kinda ironic/funny

I mean this is the only forum I know with a gigantic I love mickie D's thread

overpriced? have you ordered a regular meal at mcdonald's recently?

if I'm up before 6, and I just need a quick fix, i'll go to timmies

I don't drink coffee, some times I'll get timbits. Is it straight from the oven fresh like a mom and pop's place? no but for spare change I don't care that much esp when I'm barely awake. I will say ice cap as a seasonal drink for me is very hit and miss, some times it's almost as if it's half water

service...why would I expect or care about decent service from a fast food corporation? Just hand me my damn food. If it's really disappointing i'll send it back. Don't need to put that much thought into it, imo

Indeed, the prices are on par with the rest of the crap out there. But I feel like they used to be so much cheaper, say even ten years ago, than the rest of the crap out there.

ESL Filipinos. Thats all i fucking see.

Speaking of Filipinos, why are there so many that work at Church's Chickens? (another restaurant that's gone to shit)
I'm legit curious. Have wondered this for years

[GS8]

Speaking of Filipinos, why are there so many that work at Church's Chickens? (another restaurant that's gone to shit)
I'm legit curious. Have wondered this for years

They couldn't cut it as nurses :troll:

Also lol at comparing Tim's to McDs. Your body doesn't discriminate against shitty food.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Depends where you go. One of friends have to travel a lot coz of work. Most places she travel to is like little shit ass town in the middle of nowhere. The only place that serve food is usually subway or Timmys. So she doesn't have a lot of choice lol.

[Traum]

Timmy's doesn't give a shit anymore. My wife hasn't had a properly made french onion soup in years.
In that case, you owe your wife a trip to Les Faux Bourgeois. OK I know it isn't Timmy's, but seriously, you need to go there and get their soupe à l'oignon gratinée.

[Akinari]

My worst experience with Timmies is the one in Grandview Corners in South Surrey.

My god, no one speaks a lick of English there.

[Manic!]

i guess the manager's don't care and hire shit bag workers...

More like they can't find anyone else.

[MSREE]

Speaking of Filipinos, why are there so many that work at Church's Chickens? (another restaurant that's gone to shit)
I'm legit curious. Have wondered this for years

Fast food and janitorial work is the easiest work to get into if you are new to Canada and sponsored. They dont have the luxury of waiting for something better because everyone who comes here has family back home they need to send money to immediately. Church's, Tim's, & Mcd's & cleaning companies target immigrants for hiring. I can confirm this also because I was doing mass recruiting for a national cleaning company last year and Filipinos were their most sought after workers, white people/execs just love them for their work ethic and they make it known.
Filipino communites are pretty tight knit, word travels fast and referrals are how most newcomers get their jobs. Even if you have a degree from the Phils, it doesnt mean anything here. Much like how an East Indian can be a doctor in India but has to start off as a cab driver here.

[!LittleDragon]

The unfortunate thing is that these are the types of jobs that are supposed to go to teenagers. Where they can learn some life skills, make some money to buy their first car, make some extra cash while going to college, etc...

These minimum wage jobs were never meant to be permanent, they're supposed to be stepping stones to something better. I hardly ever see a teenager working in a McDonalds anymore.

[MG1]

Anywhere else but the GVRD and you'll see lots of teenagers working at McDonalds, Timmy Ho's, Burger King, etc.


Also, I still see a fair number of teenagers working at those places here. They're just not as visible............ asians of any kind are not as minority as they once were, but they are certainly visible.

[bcrdukes]

*Insert overly-entitled hipster millennial mentality*

(Secretly thinking of twitchyzero because he will get his panties in a bunch.)

[Mr.HappySilp]

The unfortunate thing is that these are the types of jobs that are supposed to go to teenagers. Where they can learn some life skills, make some money to buy their first car, make some extra cash while going to college, etc...

These minimum wage jobs were never meant to be permanent, they're supposed to be stepping stones to something better. I hardly ever see a teenager working in a McDonalds anymore.

There used to be a ton of teens working at the Metro, Main st and Waterfront location of McDonalds. Some of the teen girls working there actually look pretty hot. NOw they are all gone due to the Self ordering check out......

[ae101]

what about food/drink quality? Any thought

[stewie]

I go to Tim Horton's for convenience reasons. It takes me 2 minutes to get there compared to 5-10 minutes for a McDonald's or Starbucks and I don't want to be out of the office for too terribly long. I'm amazed at how easily it is for them to ruin my order. Large black coffee. I'll open it up in my truck to see it's got cream in it. Double toasted bagel... wrong bagel and looks like it's been in a toaster for 30 seconds. If I want my coffee done right it seems like my best and fastest option is to go to the gas station with a small self serve Tim's in it and pour it myself.

When I get sick of Tim's I'll swap to McDonald's for a short period of time and other than the slight difference in taste between straight black dark roast is that the McDonald's cup feels like it's just come out of hell. Shit is boiling hot when I get it and I have to let it sit for a good 10 minutes before it doesn't melt the insides of my mouth.

[MSREE]

I think nowadays too in Vancouver most teenagers by necessity dont HAVE to work. most of em have newer phones than i do haha. from a hiring standpoint, teenagers are green and will leave as everyone knows school trumps work.. turnover rate at these jobs are incredibly high. immigrants are viewed as better because they need the job and they'll work min wage without complaint...... it's unspoken but known within the food & bev industry.

[punkwax]

I’d like to see the Tim’s training video and how they teach all employees how to avoid cutting the bottom piece of bread in sandwiches.

[Akinari]

Anywhere else but the GVRD and you'll see lots of teenagers working at McDonalds, Timmy Ho's, Burger King, etc.


Also, I still see a fair number of teenagers working at those places here. They're just not as visible............ asians of any kind are not as minority as they once were, but they are certainly visible.
Depends on what time one visits these fast food chains.

Don't expect to see teens working during the morning rush or even lunch hour.

I see tons of teens working at McDs all around the GVRD (Kerrisdale, Richmond, and South Surrey/White Rock to name a few) after 3pm and later into the evening.

[originalhypa]

I got a $25 gc for timmies from a customer as an Xmas gift. I gave it to my Physio guy. Ain’t got no time for a Brazilian owned, foreign run, temp worker serviced Timmies.

OP is right. Another Canadian institution bites the dust.

[BaoTurbo]

I was just at Cambie and No 3 Tim Hortons last night hoping to get an Iced Capp.

Told me the machine was broken. I swore I was just there last week and it was broken again. I bet it was never even fixed in the time frame I wasn`t there

[Liquid_o2]

In that case, you owe your wife a trip to Les Faux Bourgeois. OK I know it isn't Timmy's, but seriously, you need to go there and get their soupe à l'oignon gratinée.

Don't forget the duck confit salad :fullofwin:

[Berzerker]

The only 2 reasons I would go to Timmies is 1. Extra Large Coffee's and 2. Tim Bits. Now McDonalds has Extra Large Coffee's and the muffins are better at McDonalds sooooo I don't go to Tim's anymore. McDonalds Coffee is way better and the cups are 10x better. PLUS you get the stickers so you get coffee rewards from MdDicks. ALSO!!! Free refills if your sitting in house eating your food. Try getting a free refill at Tim's..... lol

Berz out.

[underscore]

It sounds like the Timmies down there are a lot worse than everywhere else, obviously it isn't gourmet but for the speed and price I've never had a problem and I can actually eat their food without feeling like I'm going to puke 10 minutes down the road.

Tim Hortons is a bit like Ford/GM during the late 90's, the only reason they have sales are these die-hard brand dick riders that refuse to even consider that better products and services are available elsewhere.

McDonalds>Tim Hortons

I haven't been to a McDonalds in forever because the food is such garbage I felt sick every time I ate there, and the only options were greasy junk that was expensive as hell. Can I get a bagel or a half decent sandwich at McD's now or is it still just shitty burgers and limp fries for $10?

[Hondaracer]

stay away from Les Faux Bourgeois you fucks! dont want to have to be waiting on a table! lol

As per Berz, i can only imagine the amount of money that went into the engineering of those mcdonalds cups

i think my main beef is there are seemingly systematic problems from top to bottom with the company as a whole, not just a store here and there. Sad because where really was a time when it was a place to go, now i feel like avoiding it like the plague. Doesnt help i bought an espresso machine and have all but stopped buying coffee outside of home now

also regarding the bagels, which i agree are probably the only thing worth getting anymore (even the breakfast sandwhiches fell off a cliff) my buddy refuses to go to tims and has for quite some time because he gets pretty fired up regarding the level of toasting on bagels lol

[yray]

whats wrong with filipino churches

dem titas give me extra thigh and fries

indian run chruches give u the shits

[MarkyMark]

Now that it's been mentioned, why the hell does Timmies still use those garbage coffee lids, it's not like there aren't better alternatives now...

I'll agree the bagels are about the only thing that can still be half decent, ordered a grilled cheese before and it's like they were in such a rush the cheese wasn't even melted.

[fliptuner]

I only go to Timmy's to go to Wendy's lol

[mikemhg]

They couldn't cut it as nurses :troll:

Also lol at comparing Tim's to McDs. Your body doesn't discriminate against shitty food.

I saw a lot of Church's Chickens when I was in Manila earlier this year. My assumption is that the Filipinos are franchise owners and use the work visa program to employ their family, friends, etc from back in the Philippines.

[mikemhg]

stay away from Les Faux Bourgeois you fucks! dont want to have to be waiting on a table! lol

As per Berz, i can only imagine the amount of money that went into the engineering of those mcdonalds cups

i think my main beef is there are seemingly systematic problems from top to bottom with the company as a whole, not just a store here and there. Sad because where really was a time when it was a place to go, now i feel like avoiding it like the plague. Doesnt help i bought an espresso machine and have all but stopped buying coffee outside of home now

also regarding the bagels, which i agree are probably the only thing worth getting anymore (even the breakfast sandwhiches fell off a cliff) my buddy refuses to go to tims and has for quite some time because he gets pretty fired up regarding the level of toasting on bagels lol

That's fucking hilarious, I CAN'T STAND HOW LITTLE THEY TOAST THE BAGELS. You literally have to ask them to put them through the damn toaster twice.

[twitchyzero]

speaking of Church's
a box of chicken would hurt the wallet if it wasn't for mail coupons
portions have gotten smaller but i wouldn't say quality has changed much

More like they can't find anyone else.

The unfortunate thing is that these are the types of jobs that are supposed to go to teenagers. Where they can learn some life skills, make some money to buy their first car, make some extra cash while going to college, etc...

I hardly ever see a teenager working in a McDonalds anymore.

*Insert overly-entitled hipster millennial mentality*

(Secretly thinking of twitchyzero because he will get his panties in a bunch.)

most teenagers here today don't want to do fast food like the old days

most of them also not that interested in buying a car, the gas aint cheap like our old days as if insurance for new drivers aren't bad enough

[Traum]

most teenagers today don't want to do fast food like the old days

most of them also not that interested in buying a car, the gas aint cheap like our old days as if insurance for new drivers aren't bad enough
This was a few years ago, but a hs kid I knew at the time told me that when he was working at McDonald's, they didn't even get free meals from work. All they had was discounted purchases. That really came as a surprise to me. IIRC, KFC / Taco Bell at least offers free meals.

[twitchyzero]

when i did McD when i was 15/16 it wasn't a free meal, employees got 50% off
$6.50 wage ftw
it's hardly about the perks or the pay though, the training and experience is valuable

[MSREE]

when i did McD when i was 15/16 it wasn't a free meal, employees got 50% off
$6.50 wage ftw
it's hardly about the perks or the pay though, the training and experience is valuable

Samesies. I worked at Mcd for 2 weeks then I got my paycheque and found out it was $6.25 so I left to work at Aritzia lol. I didn't think it was fair cuz I had already worked at Butterflies & Raw Edge at Metro for 2 years before mcd and got paid more doing retail lol.

[originalhypa]

^
the problem is, retail is a dying industry. Unless you're specializing in an industry that offers too many challenges to simple online business, you're time is coming. I don't step foot in an electronics store, even though I buy thousands of dollars a year on electronics. It's so much better to do your homework on exactly what you want, and search online for the best deal.

A little note about making money at a young age. Way back in the mid 90's, the minimum wage jumped from $4.50 to $5.00/hr
This was at a time when I was 15 and making minimum wage washing dishes on the weekends at Earls. This was a huge financial hit for the owners. They took away our free meals. Everything that came out of the kitchen had to be charged through a server, albeit at half price.

Management also limited what we could order, as anything with a low profit margin (ex: steak, salmon) wasn't discounted. There was one loophole though..... If an order was screwed up, or something was cancelled, you could take it for your break, no charge. That was a popular option for the senior line cooks and their friends. And who can blame them? Earl's wasn't cheap, and we weren't getting paid much with the top guys making $18-22/hr, max. I spent three years working in restaurants, and that was enough for me.

In the end management had to raise prices, which meant they needed to print new menus and reprogram the POS systems. That added to more costs, and layoffs. The mid/late-90's were a tough time to come of age.

[belka]

After HS I worked a year in superstore stocking shelves waiting for my job offer. I wouldn’t touch the food service industry with a ten foot pole. I would lose my shit having to deal with idiots complaining about coffee too hot/cold. Now I make my own coffee just so I don’t have to listen to stupid/entitled customers complaining about pointless things to the poor employees.

[GS8]

I eat fast food about twice a month. Usually Tim's chilli is one of things I get out of all the fast food around. Always hits the spot for me.

A&W is stupidly expensive but they have specials all the time. Mama burgers on special right now for $2.50 each. Add poutine and there you go.

:sweetjesus:

[Hakkaboy]

This was a few years ago, but a hs kid I knew at the time told me that when he was working at McDonald's, they didn't even get free meals from work. All they had was discounted purchases. That really came as a surprise to me. IIRC, KFC / Taco Bell at least offers free meals.

i worked at McD's back in 94 and it was also 50% off at that time, no freebies.

But what I did was make my own kick ass custom burger and then just put it inside a Big Xtra box so I got charged the least possible.

I quit because after working there for 6 months, I only got a 15 cent raise lol

Damn I was so petty back then :okay:

[fliptuner]

When I worked at McD's, ages ago, meals were free, min 4.5hr shifts, OT, smoking in the break room.

Hell, we used to buy steaks and mushrooms from Safeway across the street and cook them on the flat-top and used real eggs for everything. I used to work Brower just for the free cases of burgers and nuggets.

Oh and beef lard and fried pies were the shit

[Jmac]

Tim's has been garbage for at least a decade. I get a bagel from them once a month when I work a 3 AM shift because there aren't many options for breakfast and I'm not keen on waking up at 1 AM instead of 1:30 AM to make breakfast those mornings. The bagels are not good (they used to be pretty good). Half the time, the milk I get with it is past its expiry date.

Now with them cutting benefits in Ontario, they're firmly in boycott territory. I'll grab McDonald's for breakfast once a month.

[will068]

ESL Filipinos. Thats all i fucking see.

Canada Temporary Work Program.

The loophole for corporations to hire cheap labour from abroad.

Instead of specialized talent, it make the funnel for cheap labour.

[quasi]

After HS I worked a year in superstore stocking shelves waiting for my job offer. I wouldn’t touch the food service industry with a ten foot pole. I would lose my shit having to deal with idiots complaining about coffee too hot/cold. Now I make my own coffee just so I don’t have to listen to stupid/entitled customers complaining about pointless things to the poor employees.

I worked there a year after high school in the 90's, never seen an employer take more advantage of it's workers then that place. They fucked up my direct deposit and it took them 8 weeks to fix it. I worked 4 pay periods without receiving one penny, every payday they said we'll fix it next payday. Once I started receiving my pay it would be short every single time. After talking to some other people I found out that managements bonuses were dependent on staying within budget. They'd get budgeted X amount of hours, if they went over budget they would just cut hours off everyone's cheques. They'd make right the previous pay on the next cheque but then the next cheque was cut back from that pay period. In the year I worked there I never received one cheque that was correct, I had to go bitch and complain every single time. The Union was useless no help at all with rectifying anything. I can't believe I stayed in that shit hole as long as I did.

I was injured there my last shit, I had a 5" gash in my arm from a box cutter with blood trail from the fridges all the way to the front end customers screaming it was pretty epic. They took me into the first aid, wrapped it up and told me I had to drive myself to the hospital because there was nobody to drive me. They didn't call me a cab or an ambulance. I'm super squeamish with blood I'm surprised I made it to the hospital without passing out.

[68style]

I eat fast food about twice a month. Usually Tim's chilli is one of things I get out of all the fast food around. Always hits the spot for me.

A&W is stupidly expensive but they have specials all the time. Mama burgers on special right now for $2.50 each. Add poutine and there you go.

:sweetjesus:

I really miss when Tim's had the chili in a lovely sourdough breadbowl that you ate after............ but it's been YEARS... maybe 10 years since they did that!!! No idea why! It was bomb

[yray]

I worked there a year after high school in the 90's, never seen an employer take more advantage of it's workers then that place. They fucked up my direct deposit and it took them 8 weeks to fix it. I worked 4 pay periods without receiving one penny, every payday they said we'll fix it next payday. Once I started receiving my pay it would be short every single time. After talking to some other people I found out that managements bonuses were dependent on staying within budget. They'd get budgeted X amount of hours, if they went over budget they would just cut hours off everyone's cheques. They'd make right the previous pay on the next cheque but then the next cheque was cut back from that pay period. In the year I worked there I never received one cheque that was correct, I had to go bitch and complain every single time. The Union was useless no help at all with rectifying anything. I can't believe I stayed in that shit hole as long as I did.

I was injured there my last shit, I had a 5" gash in my arm from a box cutter with blood trail from the fridges all the way to the front end customers screaming it was pretty epic. They took me into the first aid, wrapped it up and told me I had to drive myself to the hospital because there was nobody to drive me. They didn't call me a cab or an ambulance. I'm super squeamish with blood I'm surprised I made it to the hospital without passing out.

Should have worksafe and ESB them asses. What I don't get is why schools don't teach any of this shit.

[Jmac]

Should have worksafe and ESB them asses. What I don't get is why schools don't teach any of this shit.
Poor funding, curriculum that doesn't match current or future employment needs, lower standards for passing, very little focus (if any) on personal skills necessary for life after school, union protects too many terrible teachers, etc.

[Manic!]

Canada Temporary Work Program.

The loophole for corporations to hire cheap labour from abroad.

Instead of specialized talent, it make the funnel for cheap labour.

I know someone that has multiple fast food franchises and has over 400 employees. Foreign workers come to do one thing and that is to make money. They will work all the shifts you want and then ask for more. Thats why businesses hire them. They will not call in saying they can't come to work because it's there boyfriends, sisters friends, cousins birthday party.

[yray]

Poor funding, curriculum that doesn't match current or future employment needs, lower standards for passing, very little focus (if any) on personal skills necessary for life after school, union protects too many terrible teachers, etc.

Well they got those career days or that stupid portfolio thing that they have to do nowadays. Probably cheaper to have some worksafe staff visit schools on those days than deal with life long injuries at age 18.

its not a matter of passing or personal skills. Its knowing what they are doing is dangerous or that they are being taken advantaged of.

I think a class like wrap it if you are gonna fuck or that puberty video session in grade 5 would do, you don't need a damm course on it.

[Jmac]

I know someone that has multiple fast food franchises and has over 400 employees. Foreign workers come to do one thing and that is to make money. They will work all the shifts you want and then ask for more. Thats why businesses hire them. They will not call in saying they can't come to work because it's there boyfriends, sisters friends, cousins birthday party.
The TFW program was to fill gaps that couldn't be filled by Canadian workers, not for business owners to abuse it by filling unskilled jobs with even cheaper labour.

[TypeRNammer]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/01/05/scarborough-tim-hortons-workers-banned-from-accepting-tips-after-wage-hike.html

Here's another news article about Tim Hortons.

Employees banned from accepting tips.

Not sure if this is a repost.

[Jmac]

Well they got those career days or that stupid portfolio thing that they have to do nowadays. Probably cheaper to have some worksafe staff visit schools on those days than deal with life long injuries at age 18.

its not a matter of passing or personal skills. Its knowing what they are doing is dangerous or that they are being taken advantaged of.

I think a class like wrap it if you are gonna fuck or that puberty video session in grade 5 would do, you don't need a damm course on it.
Yeah, I'm not talking about that ...

I'm talking about budgeting, investments, cost/benefit analysis, decision making, etc. Actually preparing them for life in the real world and adulthood.

[BaoTurbo]

The only 2 reasons I would go to Timmies is 1. Extra Large Coffee's and 2. Tim Bits. Now McDonalds has Extra Large Coffee's and the muffins are better at McDonalds sooooo I don't go to Tim's anymore. McDonalds Coffee is way better and the cups are 10x better. PLUS you get the stickers so you get coffee rewards from MdDicks. ALSO!!! Free refills if your sitting in house eating your food. Try getting a free refill at Tim's..... lol

Berz out.

Holy crap I didn't know everyone was entitled to free refills. I saw a guy get one before while I was ordering food and I thought he's a regular so he gets it (y'know like the old folks that are there every morning and afternoon). Never even crossed my mind.

:fullofwin::fullofwin::fullofwin:

[underscore]

Should have worksafe and ESB them asses. What I don't get is why schools don't teach any of this shit.

Do you really think anybody would pay attention? Even if they did, they'd likely forget all of it by the time they need it.

I'm talking about budgeting, investments, cost/benefit analysis, decision making, etc. Actually preparing them for life in the real world and adulthood.

One thing school is supposed to teach you is how to learn things, so why does everybody act like they're completely inept unless they had a teacher walk them through every step of how to do something? Did you never do a research project where you had to pick a topic of some sort and research it and learn about it on your own? So many people whine about how school didn't teach them X, how about you go crack open a book at the library or search online instead of complaining about how you didn't learn about something in school as if you would have even paid attention to any of it anyways.

Maybe that's the real failure of the education system. How people can make it twelve fucking years and not understand how to learn about something.

[Berzerker]

Canada Temporary Work Program.

The loophole for corporations to hire cheap labour from abroad.

Instead of specialized talent, it make the funnel for cheap labour.

Yea there was a huge flood locally but they changed legislation I think so it's not as common anymore.

Berz out.

[minoru_tanaka]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/01/05/scarborough-tim-hortons-workers-banned-from-accepting-tips-after-wage-hike.html

Here's another news article about Tim Hortons.

Employees banned from accepting tips.

Not sure if this is a repost.
I wonder what that would work out for each employee. How many people are just like "keep the change" ? I'd work 8 hours at MCD and maybe like 90 cents would come from that, but that was the 90s.

So this owner wants that dollar?

[welfare]

Maybe that's the real failure of the education system. How people can make it twelve fucking years and not understand how to learn about something.

People are taught to memorize. Not learn. For the most part.

[welfare]

Now with them cutting benefits in Ontario, they're firmly in boycott territory. I'll grab McDonald's for breakfast once a month.

If you're referring to the two franchises in Ontario, this was a decision by the individual owners of the two restaurants only. Not the board.

[welfare]

Fast food and janitorial work is the easiest work to get into if you are new to Canada and sponsored. They dont have the luxury of waiting for something better because everyone who comes here has family back home they need to send money to immediately. Church's, Tim's, & Mcd's & cleaning companies target immigrants for hiring. I can confirm this also because I was doing mass recruiting for a national cleaning company last year and Filipinos were their most sought after workers, white people/execs just love them for their work ethic and they make it known.
Filipino communites are pretty tight knit, word travels fast and referrals are how most newcomers get their jobs. Even if you have a degree from the Phils, it doesnt mean anything here. Much like how an East Indian can be a doctor in India but has to start off as a cab driver here.

They do generally have a very strong work ethic. The ones I've known anyways. I wonder if the large Catholic following has anything to do with that.

But yes, I was specifically talking about Church's Chicken. Every one that I'd been to (though it has been many years) from Vancouver to Surrey would have like 80-90% Filipino employees. Much more than any other fast food restaurant. Maybe it's the contractors they use. I dunno. Just always wondered

[twitchyzero]

k-12 for the most part was a disaster in terms of preparing you for college, so forget real world

the 5 years of public school in English class, I may be learned one year's worth. My piece of shit grade 11 teacher would try to put on movies few too many times.

from interacting with the kids today at my office, it sounds like it has only gotten worse

and most of my students at ubc have never failed in life before, so when I tell them to re-do something often they fall apart...news flash, you're not going to learn if you never make mistakes

[BIC_BAWS]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/01/05/scarborough-tim-hortons-workers-banned-from-accepting-tips-after-wage-hike.html

Here's another news article about Tim Hortons.

Employees banned from accepting tips.

Not sure if this is a repost.

4 or 5 years ago, when I worked at Cineplex, we were not allowed to accept tips. In fact, when customers offered, we told them, "No, we can't accept tips". And any tip that was still given went into the till. But then we'd still be on the hook at the end of the night when the cash in till doesn't match the settlement report.

[ae101]

McDonald only gave u free meal is only for stocking and manager lol

I remember way back when our army was in Afghanistan, they had a tims open up In base and I heard everyone was given a free tims card with no credit in inside lol

[320icar]

All this minimum wage talk. In high school you need work experience so I got a job at home outfitters doing receiving/stocking on weekends. During the summer I stayed and worked making the amazing “training wage” of 6.50/hr. I found out the other guy I work with who did the same job was making about 20/hr. I asked management to give me a raise to minimum (which was I think 8.15/hr at the time) and she just said “Uhm... nahhh I don’t think so”. So I put in my two weeks. It was a bit insulting since they didn’t give me ANY training, and I think 500 hours of $6.50 is insane

[ZN6]

The only one I ever go to now is the one at burrard station underneath cookies by george, I still get my cheese croissant and steeped tea. I've always thought Timmy's food was shit and the only thing I ever gave a pass to was the Chili.

Next thing you know, roll up the rim won't be there anymore. Seems like the prizes are getting shittier and less frequent. I remember when I got free coffee for like 2 weeks on my morning commute thanks to all the free coffee wins.

now it's like 1/20 is a free coffee or donut. :okay:

[Y2K_o__o]

I used to go to Tim Horton about once/twice a month in the past, and now I've switched to McCafe and subway instead. I went there because I don't have a choice in my area. There are a two things that I found across all TH and they never address these issues at all:

1) Selections availability - Not all soup, potatoe wedge, dipping sauce selection are available. Especially during the midnight hour, potato wedges are not available at most TH, but why can McDonald offer french fries at any time?

2) long wait time - They have the same person running the till, picking donuts, preparing drinks. It's just taking alot longer time to get the job done

[MG1]

The only time I went to a Tim Horton's was to collect those hockey cards. LOL. I think the last time around I went once and said to myself.......... why????

[nah]

the most annoying thing is the fucking cup sleeves, they're so cheap they force you to ask for one every fucking single time...

[twitchyzero]

the most annoying thing is the fucking cup sleeves, they're so cheap they force you to ask for one every fucking single time...

a few seconds of your time saved some paper from the landfill, seems like a decent trade-off

[RRxtar]

the most annoying thing is the fucking cup sleeves, they're so cheap they force you to ask for one every fucking single time...
the cup sleeves are the problem? your soft hands are the problem! :lawl:

you have to ask because the clientele that drinks tim hortons arent latte sipping softies and they don't expect someone to need one. lol

[nah]

the cup sleeves are the problem? your soft hands are the problem! :lawl:

you have to ask because the clientele that drinks tim hortons arent latte sipping softies and they don't expect someone to need one. lol

Hell yeah, i have soft office worker hands...:fullofwin:

[underscore]

the most annoying thing is the fucking cup sleeves, they're so cheap they force you to ask for one every fucking single time...

So keep the one from your last cup and reuse it?

[welfare]

Or just ask for one?

[320icar]

Ok so it’s just frustrating. Get called in early for work, head out and walk by a Timmy’s on the way. As for a toasted bagel and get a stone cold bagel. the simplest of tasks such as toasting a bagel can’t even be done right.

Fuck me for forgetting to ask for double toasted so it even resembles something warm

[Lomac]

Yeah, I've stopped even trying to go to Tim Hortons for anything more than a coffee. And even that I've switched over to 7/11. Not that it's any better but I've got one of their travel mugs and it's 50 cents to fill it. So why the hell not.

[MG1]

^I hope you have the App. It's free San Pellegrino Sparkling tea on the 28th.

[westopher]

Ok so it’s just frustrating. Get called in early for work, head out and walk by a Timmy’s on the way. As for a toasted bagel and get a stone cold bagel. the simplest of tasks such as toasting a bagel can’t even be done right.

Fuck me for forgetting to ask for double toasted so it even resembles something warm
You went to tim hortons, thats your bad.
10 years of serving absolute garbage and you haven't learned yet?

[Mr.Money]

ordered a cream long john...

FFS it tasted like a marshmallow melted inside a donut,they don't even use milk cream anymore.

[donjalapeno]

I miss the lasagna and the old hash browns. Tims is garbage now.

Oh and oddly enough i liked the turkey sausage better than the pork one they have now.

[originalhypa]

got ordered a cream long john...

FFS it tasted like a marshmallow melted inside a donut,they don't even use milk cream anymore.

It's almost sad what they have turned into.
Every once in a while I give them another try, just to be let down. I got a couple Timmie's cards for Xmas and ended up regifting them. It was the best course of action.

RIP Timmies
:okay:

[Traum]

Makes you wonder WTF this Restaurant Brands International (Timmy's owner) is thinking...

Tim Hortons, franchisees spat over $700M plan to reno most Canadian locations - NEWS 1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2018/03/27/tim-hortons-franchisees-spat-over-700m-plan-to-reno-most-canadian-locations/)

As business executives, you'd think they'd at least go look into the real reasons of why their chains suck. This open concept seating stuff is nice and all, but it isn't the real reason why Timmy's suck now.

(They should really read up on our thread here a little... EleGiggle )

[Jmac]

RBI is owned by a hedge fund company (3G Capital) and they've returned significant gains for their shareholders since the merger. Unfortunately, I think they overestimated how attached Canadians were to the brand. Between the bad publicity generated by a few of the franchisees and the rapid decline in quality since the merger (and slow decline prior to that), it's not difficult to understand why Canadians taking their business elsewhere.

It has little to do with the interior of the restaurants.

[originalhypa]

Timmie's new shitty donut.

http://i.imgur.com/NeSui5c.jpg

:awesom:

[MG1]

It’s so sticky...............

[Bouncing Bettys]

Imagine the money Tim's could make if they could somehow adapt the bonding agent from their shitty icing and wrapper and apply it to other industries. No more dangerous welding of structural steel, just apply icing and wrapper.

[Verdasco]

Ok so it’s just frustrating. Get called in early for work, head out and walk by a Timmy’s on the way. As for a toasted bagel and get a stone cold bagel. the simplest of tasks such as toasting a bagel can’t even be done right.

Fuck me for forgetting to ask for double toasted so it even resembles something warm

reminds me of a time where my friend had an experience at some coffee shop in Toronto.


Friend was trying order coffee and was standing in line. Some old business man with a suit and all in his 50's had a bagel order messed up because the girl who was working fucked up. The girl was like a 17 year old. The guy starts screaming "THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THERE AND I AM HERE!!" to the poor girl... and she starts crying her face off. My friend said that is one of the major things he regrets not standing up for. He really wanted to say "SHUT THE FUCK UP! Let me buy that bagel"


hearing this story, it reminds us that we are all human and the poor girl was just going through high school or university which is quite depressing.


Asking for perfect quality at tim hortons is like asking for the best service at mcdonalds. Both are the same crap level imo. You get what you paid for.

[Jmac]

reminds me of a time where my friend had an experience at some coffee shop in Toronto.


Friend was trying order coffee and was standing in line. Some old business man with a suit and all in his 50's had a bagel order messed up because the girl who was working fucked up. The girl was like a 17 year old. The guy starts screaming "THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THERE AND I AM HERE!!" to the poor girl... and she starts crying her face off. My friend said that is one of the major things he regrets not standing up for. He really wanted to say "SHUT THE FUCK UP! Let me buy that bagel"


hearing this story, it reminds us that we are all human and the poor girl was just going through high school or university which is quite depressing.


Asking for perfect quality at tim hortons is like asking for the best service at mcdonalds. Both are the same crap level imo. You get what you paid for.
Everyone makes mistakes and, yeah, it's wrong to lose your shit on someone like that, but it's not unreasonable to expect a toasted bagel to be warm.

I worked over a decade in retail (Canadian Tire, Staples), my fiance worked over a decade in the food industry (Wal-Mart Deli, Subway, Denny's) and, while we wouldn't like being yelled at for the occasional fuck up, we didn't have a lazy "customers shouldn't expect good service here" attitude, either.

[Hondaracer]

reminds me of a time where my friend had an experience at some coffee shop in Toronto.


Friend was trying order coffee and was standing in line. Some old business man with a suit and all in his 50's had a bagel order messed up because the girl who was working fucked up. The girl was like a 17 year old. The guy starts screaming "THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THERE AND I AM HERE!!" to the poor girl... and she starts crying her face off. My friend said that is one of the major things he regrets not standing up for. He really wanted to say "SHUT THE FUCK UP! Let me buy that bagel"


hearing this story, it reminds us that we are all human and the poor girl was just going through high school or university which is quite depressing.


Asking for perfect quality at tim hortons is like asking for the best service at mcdonalds. Both are the same crap level imo. You get what you paid for.

“Perfection” is asking for a bagel to be toasted?..

You’re reasoning is exactly why automation will take away all these jobs. People can’t even do meanial jobs properly.

[MG1]

Friend was trying order coffee and was standing in line. Some old business man with a suit and all in his 50's had a bagel order messed up because the girl who was working fucked up. The girl was like a 17 year old. The guy starts screaming "THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THERE AND I AM HERE!!" to the poor girl... and she starts crying her face off. My friend said that is one of the major things he regrets not standing up for.

Oh, shit........... I would have so gone up and down that guy's backside. I would have made him feel like an absolute failure in life for being such a dickhead. That's like a selfish, dumb, cunt move. If it were a guy, I'd bet he wouldn't be that way. god I hate people like that. /rant

Anyway.................. carry on carrying on.

[Tone Loc]

Oh, shit........... I would have so gone up and down that guy's backside. I would have made him feel like an absolute failure in life for being such a dickhead. That's like a selfish, dumb, cunt move. If it were a guy, I'd bet he wouldn't be that way. god I hate people like that. /rant

Anyway.................. carry on carrying on.

No kidding. What an entitled sack of shit. It's clear that guy didn't have to work his way up in life, as I am sure the majority of us had crap-tier jobs like that at one point.

Having worked in the food service industry all through high school and through most of university, I've developed a trait for having zero respect towards people who talk down to service workers. Especially considering my parents who were immigrants started out (and retired) doing those types of jobs.

"You are there and I am here" you're clearly not THAT successful if you're at Tim Hortons instead of Starbucks :fuckthatshit:

[welfare]

Friend was trying order coffee and was standing in line. Some old business man with a suit and all in his 50's had a bagel order messed up because the girl who was working fucked up. The girl was like a 17 year old. The guy starts screaming "THIS IS WHY YOU ARE THERE AND I AM HERE!!" to the poor girl... and she starts crying her face of.

I'm picturing like an Ari Gold yelling this and it is freaking hilarious

[westopher]

"You are there and I am here" you're clearly not THAT successful if you're at Tim Hortons instead of Starbucks :fuckthatshit:
LOL thats a SOLID point hahaha.

[Acura604]

franchise opportunity? in India...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tim-hortons-knock-off-india-1.4841323

Tim Hortons will seek to shut down an apparent knock-off restaurant in India that uses a name and branding very similar to the coffee-and-doughnut chain.

Tim Hottens, located in Yamunanagar, India, is two letters away from the coffee chain in its name.

Its logo and branding appear to mimic the Canadian chain's as well. The font and colour of the name in its logo is nearly identical. Tim Hottens also uses the phrases "always fresh" and "cafe & bake shop," as well as the red-hued striped background in its logo.
Tim Hottens did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

"While we believe that imitation is often the sincerest form of flattery, we do have very high standards when it comes to our brand, the quality of our products and the service we provide our guests," said Jane Almeida, a spokeswoman for Restaurant Brands International (RBI), the parent company of Tim Hortons, in an email.

"Therefore, we will be taking steps to protect our brand and trademarks, including closing down this imitation restaurant."

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4841334.1538074943!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/tim-hortons-india-20180927.jpg

[CivicBlues]

LOL, wanna bet that's not a real Adidas or Puma store as well?

[Liquid_o2]

Maybe Tim Hottens quality is at a higher standard? Do they bake in-house?

[underscore]

You mean Adldas and Puna?

[Hondaracer]

Hottens sounds like just the fob translation lol

[quasi]

Maybe Tim Hottens quality is at a higher standard? Do they bake in-house?

I was going to say, do they actually sell coffee that doesn't taste like a cigarette was butted out in it or good doughnuts?

[Bouncing Bettys]

Wait until they start bringing in TFW's from Canada.

[yray]

https://youtu.be/s5d2vfhmZi8

[westopher]

"While we believe that imitation is often the sincerest form of flattery, we do have very high standards when it comes to our brand, the quality of our products and the service we provide our guests," said Jane Almeida, a spokeswoman for Restaurant Brands International (RBI), the parent company of Tim Hortons, in an email.

:pokerface::pokerface::pokerface::pokerface:
:pokerface::pokerface::pokerface::pokerface:
:pokerface::pokerface::pokerface::pokerface:

[Hondaracer]

The irony of that statement.

[Mr.Money]

its time for a Canadian to start a whole new Coffee chain and say No to the 1 billion offer if they want to get bought out like Tim Hortons... :fullofwin:
You Just need a catchy Name and stop using Shitty Coffee roasts with piss poor artificial sweetened donuts.

[Hondaracer]

I never used to like Starbucks but since getting more into coffee and buying my own espresso machine at home, I will say that at least Starbucks actually tastes like..coffee?

Everything else Tim’s, McDonald’s, etc takes like some sort of artificial mixture that is made to taste like coffee

[unit]

its time for a Canadian to start a whole new Coffee chain and say No to the 1 billion offer if they want to get bought out like Tim Hortons... :fullofwin:
You Just need a catchy Name and stop using Shitty Coffee roasts with piss poor artificial sweetened donuts.

already have a few, waves and blenz.
waves sucks at everything, but i don't mind blenz that much... mainly their hot chocolate which is made with actual melted chocolate. don't really care too much for either of them but they are there, and both started in vancouver.

[Hondaracer]

small independant bake/coffee shops are the way to go.

An easy way to see if youre gonna get a decent cup of coffee from a place you havent been before is when you search up the name/reviews, are there pictures of Latte art.

if they can do Latte art, odds are they can make a decent cup

[welfare]

already have a few, waves and blenz.
waves sucks at everything, but i don't mind blenz that much... mainly their hot chocolate which is made with actual melted chocolate. don't really care too much for either of them but they are there, and both started in vancouver.

matter of opinion of course, but i actually like waves frapps. they're probably at the top of my list. for frapps anyways. don't think i've tried anything else there tho

[Liquid_o2]

For local chains I prefer JJ Bean. Their grab n go food is really good too. Unfortunately they are only in urban locations, so I can't grab one when I am out in the 'burbs.

[Hondaracer]

JJ bean is definitely the best “chain” shop

[Mining]

I guess I`ll chime in here since I have a timmies near my work that I don't go to anymore.

I would get their soup that would come with the bread and every fucking time they throw the little butter container on top of my fucking hot soup and by the time I bring it back to work it`s melted and just drips out and makes an unnecessary mess.

[unit]

another big fan of jj... i'm normally at the one on alberni, and it's more consistent than most of the 3rd wave shops tbh. also their food is much better than the small shops, and it's not a ripoff. you can get a very filling wrap and a salad for $10.

[FerrariEnzo]

Tim Hottens lol it finally happen... maybe this chain will have better tasting food.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4496051/tim-hortons-tim-hottens/

[Ch28]

Any of these places are pretty good place for coffees

Spade on Commercial Drive
Pallet
Nemesis
49th Parallel

Went to Rocanini Coffee Roasters last week and enjoyed their cortado. Most/all of these places are generally pretty newb friendly as well. just tell them what kind of coffee you generally like, and they'll recommend you something more to your palate.

[Hondaracer]

Personally my favorite is Moja on comercial, i buy their beans on the regular and find their espresso to be the best of the local roasters in east van

/Hipster

[320icar]

Any of these places are pretty good place for coffees

Spade on Commercial Drive
Pallet
Nemesis
49th Parallel

Went to Rocanini Coffee Roasters last week and enjoyed their cortado. Most/all of these places are generally pretty newb friendly as well. just tell them what kind of coffee you generally like, and they'll recommend you something more to your palate.

Pretty sure anyone who is okay with a double double is NOT cross shopping those hipster joints lol

[GS8]

https://doninmass.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/you-are-not-a-real-hipster-until-you-take-your-typewriter-to-starbucks-quote-1.jpg

[MG1]

Frozen Timbits ftmfw!

[Hondaracer]

MG1 is alive! Thought that “let’s have a moment of silence” thread in VAC was gonna be for you before I opened it lol :pokerface:

[unit]

hmm personally i gotta disagree with moja.. at least based on my 2 experiences there.
both times i had a SOUR cappuccino. it was undrinkable..

i find it's pretty hard to get real consistency, but a few places tend to do it better, like revolver and timbertrain have both been pretty good for me, but i don't go that often cause it's out of the way. i haven't been to a lot of the newer trendy places though that have popped up in the last few years. i liked BxA for a few months then it just went downhill, plus i think the owner is super pretentious, or at least he always acts that way.

[WD-40]

Screw the coffee, Timmies is about the donuts and Timbits. Anytime you go to a meeting or meet up with friends and you need to bring something it's Timmies donuts. Their cheap enough and always available.

[MG1]

Doughnuts are good for you...........

[68style]

Hondaracer... dat you bra?

https://youtu.be/KEqytUjOlZI

[Bouncing Bettys]

Maybe this Napoleon would have been able to correct her, when she confirmed his order at the point of sale, if he had removed is earbuds. Just a thought.

[Hondaracer]

Wife’s toasted bagel with cream cheese tonight. Not my picture as I haven’t gone in almost 2 years now I’d say

https://i.imgur.com/akTdXQj.jpg

[Ch28]

Wow, they really went heavy on the cream cheese there.

[mikemhg]

That's why you gotta request a double toast each time...crap.