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01-06-2018, 01:50 AM
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Why is the word Racist even being used. Fucking people throw that word around like shit and hope it sticks. Being Opinionated isn't being racist. Having an opinion on a topic that just because they happen to be of another race doesn't make you a racist. Fuck off people.
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01-06-2018, 11:41 AM
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I don't think anyone (in the media spotlight anyways) was calling her racist. It was the comments on her support page, from individuals, that were seen as racist.
I gotta say, while I understand Scheer's decision, I'm pretty disappointed in it.
There's been no communication with the country on this matter. That's ultimately what does and will fuel racism about it, IMO.
Conservative social policy strives for equal treatment of all people by their government. That's what I believe in. That's what attracted me to the party.
Shoot, didn't see the previous thread on Beyak. Would have just updated that one. If someone wants to merge them, it's all good. Or don't.
My apologies
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01-06-2018, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Berzerker  Why is the word Racist even being used. Fucking people throw that word around like shit and hope it sticks. Being Opinionated isn't being racist. Having an opinion on a topic that just because they happen to be of another race doesn't make you a racist. Fuck off people.
Berz out. | I disagree Berz. Yes, she is being opinionated, however her "opinion" carries a racist connotation.
As a member of Senate she should be held to any criticism levied against her based on her posting and refusal to delete such comments. For example:
"I'm no anthropologist but it seems every opportunistic culture, subsistence hunter/gatherers seeks to get what they can for no effort. There is always a clash between industrial/organized farming culture that values effort as opposed to a culture that will sit and wait until the government gives them stuff,"
Come on man, you really think a member of senate should support such comments? This is the problem with the Conservative party, they walk like ducks, quack like ducks, but when called out on it, they love to cry "Well I'm not racist!".
Why do these characters feel the need to even speak on such subject? You're a blonde white woman from who knows where, what knowledge or incite can you realistically provide regarding the impact of residential schools? I liken such comments to those Republican Senators/House Members who try to insinuate that slavery "wasn't all that bad", or "they came here by choice!".
Jesus, these are hot button topics that infuriates a group of people when spoken in a dismissive manner as she did. Why do they feel the need to insert their thoughts, knowing full well the potential blow back? What real utility did she get other than blowing the proverbial "dog whistle" to her constituents? Then cry foul and complain when it blows up in her face? Give me a break, she should suffer the consequences of her actions, or lack there of.
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But yet Trump gets away with calling Sen. Warren "Pochahontas". What bizarre times we live in.
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01-06-2018, 11:46 AM
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Damn. And here I get banned on Revscene for using the "C" word.
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Lets just bury our heads in the sand and keep cutting cheques to reservations
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01-06-2018, 12:02 PM
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If it wasn't clear, I wholeheartedly agree with her views on ending status, and really all privileges bestowed by the government. These are enablements, IMO.
My personal view is that the reparations or privileges are more damaging, to relations and the individuals themselves, than the original violation that they're attempting to make up for.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer Lets just bury our heads in the sand and keep cutting cheques to reservations | Agreed! Society is so stupid now. Basically everyone needs to be babied and if you say anything that's remotely mean but the truth you are against their gender, race, sexuality, skin color, the way the speak ,their age etc etc. Is like we are no different than living in a communist gov. In fact they have more freedom of speech than we do lol.
I used to joke with a really good friend of mine who is a Filipino and as we all know when they speak they have an accent. Which is pretty normal. Sometimes we would joke with each other and I would pretend to use the same accent when talking to him. I mean he doesn't mind one bit as he copy my accent too. One day we were at a food court chatting and eating. I started copying his accent and some lady came over and started yelling and screaming saying who I am racist all that crap. My friend just tell the lady to stfu and leave us alone.
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01-06-2018, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter But yet Trump gets away with calling Sen. Warren "Pochahontas". What bizarre times we live in. | You do realize why he calls her that, right?
The fact that she lied about being part Cherokee on her application to a firm to gain priority.
He's calling her out on it. Mocking her. As he should.
And that's the problem. People just look at the word and the narrative, not any further, and assume racism
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01-06-2018, 12:17 PM
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Why do these characters feel the need to even speak on such subject? You're a blonde white woman from who knows where, what knowledge or incite can you realistically provide regarding the impact of residential schools? I liken such comments to those Republican Senators/House Members who try to insinuate that slavery "wasn't all that bad", or "they came here by choice!".
Jesus, these are hot button topics that infuriates a group of people when spoken in a dismissive manner as she did. Why do they feel the need to insert their thoughts, knowing full well the potential blow back? What real utility did she get other than blowing the proverbial "dog whistle" to her constituents? Then cry foul and complain when it blows up in her face? Give me a break, she should suffer the consequences of her actions, or lack there of.
| Try doing a little research into her background before you pass judgment.
You know, look a little further than the color of her skin 
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01-06-2018, 12:25 PM
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Someone explain to how this is not racist.
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“If you took a bunch of Amish farmers from southern Ontario and banished them to a reserve in northern Ontario, within a year they would have built all of their members a new home, a new church and barns for every homestead… At the same time the aboriginals relocated to Amish country near Kitchener would have burned down the house and left the fields to gully and rot.”
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Originally Posted by welfare You do realize why he calls her that, right?
The fact that she lied about being part Cherokee on her application to a firm to gain priority.
He's calling her out on it. Mocking her. As he should.
And that's the problem. People just look at the word and the narrative, not any further, and assume racism | Do you even know the story of Pocahontas?
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01-06-2018, 12:31 PM
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she looks like a redneck but from what the article described it doesn't seems like her comments were meant to be malicious..but I can see why others certainly have their jimmies rustled
I think we need more dialogues to address the 'crisis' than to just keep throwing money at the problem
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01-06-2018, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Someone explain to how this is not racist. | The comment may be racist, yes. But that doesn't mean there isn't any truth to it. Or that the anger isn't valid.
How do you expect people to feel when billions of dollars are partitioned annually, yet the problems seem to be getting worse?
And worse yet, questioning the policies makes you a bad person. Quote:
Do you even know the story of Pocahontas?
| Nope. And I doubt he does either. All he probably knew when he gave her that moniker was that it was an infamous female Indian and that the left would react with complete hypocrisy.
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01-06-2018, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by welfare The comment may be racist, yes. But that doesn't mean there isn't any truth to it. Or that the anger isn't valid.
How do you expect people to feel when billions of dollars are partitioned annually, yet the problems seem to be getting worse?
And worse yet, questioning the policies makes you a bad person. | Why do you care where the money goes you don't even pay taxes. Quote:
Nope. And I doubt he does either. All he probably knew when he gave her that moniker was that it was an infamous female Indian and that the left would react with complete hypocrisy.
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01-06-2018, 01:37 PM
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Jesus, these are hot button topics that infuriates a group of people when spoken in a dismissive manner as she did. Why do they feel the need to insert their thoughts, knowing full well the potential blow back? What real utility did she get other than blowing the proverbial "dog whistle" to her constituents? Then cry foul and complain when it blows up in her face? Give me a break, she should suffer the consequences of her actions, or lack there of.
| Funny. No one was up in arms over Tomson Highway. The author she was paraphrasing when she made the residential school comment.
Someone who saw his nine year experience at a residential school as very positive.
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01-06-2018, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! Why do you care where the money goes you don't even pay taxes. | I know you're trolling, Manic, but I don't pay taxes?
Tell you what, I'll give up my line on personally consumed tax free cheap Indian smokes, and they can give up the status card, unregulated hunting, reserves, etc..
No more treats for you though. Feeding time's over
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Originally Posted by welfare I know you're trolling, Manic, but I don't pay taxes?
Tell you what, I'll give up my line on personally consumed tax free cheap Indian smokes, and they can give up the status card, unregulated hunting, reserves, etc..
No more treats for you though. Feeding time's over | Will you give up your welfare cheques?
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See, again, why is having an opinion on a subject considered racist. I don't like the fact that natives get status and live on reserves and do fuck all and get handouts. I think the system needs to change and the natives need to learn how to fend for themselves like everyone else in Canada. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Does this make me a racist?
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Originally Posted by Berzerker See, again, why is having an opinion on a subject considered racist. I don't like the fact that natives get status and live on reserves and do fuck all and get handouts. I think the system needs to change and the natives need to learn how to fend for themselves like everyone else in Canada. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Does this make me a racist?
Berz out. | Nope. You aren't saying anything hurtful at all. Is an option. You aren't like personally attacking them ie saying they lazying fucks who smoke joints all day.
These days anything you said can be use against you. Is best not to say anything at all lol.
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01-06-2018, 05:28 PM
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Now it's being questioned as to why Scheer didn't react sooner.
And this is the mistake of conceding to "virtue".
Give them an inch, and now they want the whole party. A fools fate.
Maybe if he would have stood by her he'd realize he has the support of more people than he thinks. Instead cowtowing , giving the likes of chief Bellegarde an even higher upper hand over the government. http://nationalpost.com/news/politic...aucus-sooner-2
Even Canadians can only stand not being heard for so long..
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Originally Posted by welfare If it wasn't clear, I wholeheartedly agree with her views on ending status, and really all privileges bestowed by the government. These are enablements, IMO.
My personal view is that the reparations or privileges are more damaging, to relations and the individuals themselves, than the original violation that they're attempting to make up for. | THAT is an opinion. You aren't calling FN people lazy and opportunistic.
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I don't necessarily disagree with her overall message, specifically just throwing money at a situation, but someone in her position should be able to convey that message a little better than she did. I get the whole Trump thing where they are just "telling it like it is", but please say it better than some drunk in a bar would.
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp THAT is an opinion. You aren't calling FN people lazy and opportunistic. | It is, yes. But at the same time, I won't clutch my pearls when I hear people making comments like that.
I may not agree with it, but I know the resentment doesn't come from nowhere.
It may sound crazy, but I believe any dialog is better than no dialog. Silencing people because racist doesn't work, IMO
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