[clevernickname]

Tougher penalties for distracted driving to come into effect in BC this month | Daily Hive Vancouver (http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/tougher-penalties-distracted-driving-bc)

I'm all for safer driving and such, but the only "cell phone traps" i've seen are at red lights. Weird how touching your phone to adjust GPS at a 2 minute red light..and texting while driving, are the same penalty.

[twitchyzero]

$2000...this is more about stopping the ICBC hemorrhaging than about saving lives

time to jailbreak my iPhone so I can Snapchat on the infotainment :devil:...no but seriously Apple Maps is still so awful

anyone know what they mean by large powerful scopes to detect electronic devices?

[320icar]

Apple maps is fucking awful, and I hate how if i want to use my cars built in gps I can’t plug my phone in to charge (or Apple CarPlay starts)

Meh, bring on the stiffer penalties, doesn’t effect me. The amount of people I see who still fuck around with their phones just proves people havent gotten the message yet

[Acura604]

most of us know this of course, but there's a large amount of noobs on here....

so.. noobs... take my advice, take your smartphone and throw it into the backseat so you can't reach it... most of you probably have bluetooth so no need to have the phone in your hand....

[ScizzMoney]

Distracted driving is a huge problem. Every time I'm at a stop light you can always see someone looking into their lap every half second, clearly on their phone or picking a mustard stain off of their pants.

I did something I'll never do again. I didn't think it'd work, was kind of funny but not at all since it almost caused an accident. I was behind a young girl / woman who was clearly on her phone at a stop light. I honked my horn while the light was still red, she actually started to go. Looking back I assume she does that so often that she gets honked at for sitting at green lights and knew to just go. She drove forward about 20ft before realizing what was going on and stopped and backed up.

[Hehe]

The part that I find funny is that they have these strict penalties for "distracted driving" for checking GPS running on their phones, while cars equipped with built-in GPS or even CarPlay/Android Auto are fine.

I fail to see how I'm less distracted by using those built-in options. :fuckthatshit:

But I guess I better not give them more ideas... next thing we know, we'd be banned from listening to radio while driving.

[originalhypa]

I was behind a young girl / woman who was clearly on her phone at a stop light. I honked my horn while the light was still red, she actually started to go.

:awesom:

You sir, truly are a living legend.
Lol!

[MarkyMark]

Can't you use your phone GPS it is mounted to the dash? If you rely on GPS so much to get around that's where it should be anyways, not your crotch.

[Acura604]

The newer 'built-in options' are terrible... holy crap, the 2016 civic and that shitty touch panel to choose things like music, audio source, etc... and yah, i get it..."but you can do all that with voice recognition" lol..yah right... that shit never works.

these new infotainment systems are just as distracting... i'll bet those are next to be put on the list..


my biggest gripe is the filthy smokers...they got something frickin' burning in their hands while driving... so...they drop the butt...what do u think happens?? they let their seat burn/pants burn? no... they get distracted and try to find the burning butt feverishly before it burns. lame lame lame...and of course, even if they are treating their lungs like an ashtray - they dont want to treat their car like an ashtray...rather they throw the butt out the window....

[prudz]

my biggest gripe is the filthy smokers...they got something frickin' burning in their hands while driving... so...they drop the butt...what do u think happens?? they let their seat burn/pants burn? no... they get distracted and try to find the burning butt feverishly before it burns. lame lame lame...and of course, even if they are treating their lungs like an ashtray - they dont want to treat their car like an ashtray...rather they throw the butt out the window....

Just reading your post gave me cancer. More than the 2nd hand smoke coming out the window of a smokers car.

[UnknownJinX]

The newer 'built-in options' are terrible... holy crap, the 2016 civic and that shitty touch panel to choose things like music, audio source, etc... and yah, i get it..."but you can do all that with voice recognition" lol..yah right... that shit never works.

these new infotainment systems are just as distracting... i'll bet those are next to be put on the list..


my biggest gripe is the filthy smokers...they got something frickin' burning in their hands while driving... so...they drop the butt...what do u think happens?? they let their seat burn/pants burn? no... they get distracted and try to find the burning butt feverishly before it burns. lame lame lame...and of course, even if they are treating their lungs like an ashtray - they dont want to treat their car like an ashtray...rather they throw the butt out the window....

I don't think navigation units should be considered a distraction. The alternatives are more dangerous and distracting. No, I am not pulling over at a random spot to look at a map(which is more dangerous, especially on a highway), or trying to memorize the route(my memory is garbage and it takes concentration).

I had and have 2 cars that have built-in navigation units, both of them are fairly ancient. The one in the Accord isn't even touch screen.

As far as the navigation units themselves go, they are not completely terrible. The Accord had loads of buttons for the audio controls, while the RX-8 allows me to control the source and presets from the steering wheel.

The Accord actually had a functional voice recognition. I just can't be bothered to memorize all the commands, though. The one in my RX-8 is trash, though. The phone recognition works okay, but the navigation one never does.

I never understood why people would smoke in their cars. Used to vape, though, but since I started driving a stick, that stopped.
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[underscore]

most of us know this of course, but there's a large amount of noobs on here....

so.. noobs... take my advice, take your smartphone and throw it into the backseat so you can't reach it... most of you probably have bluetooth so no need to have the phone in your hand....

The phone is supposed to be secured, just put it in your pocket or the console. Although with the angle of the seats in some cars phones like to come loose, I don't know why but somehow in my car my phones slide out of my pocket and either behind my back or onto the floor behind me.

[Acura604]

The phone is supposed to be secured, just put it in your pocket or the console. Although with the angle of the seats in some cars phones like to come loose, I don't know why but somehow in my car my phones slide out of my pocket and either behind my back or onto the floor behind me.

most phones are super huge now... depends on your pocket...can you imagine a note 8 in your front jeans pocket? and sitting down in a car? lol

[underscore]

That's why I hate massive phones. Even my S7 gouges me in the stomach if I bend over while it's in my ski jacket.

[yray]

:megusta: changing temps and turning on seat heat with voice commands in the morning

[originalhypa]

I'm still trying to get used to my new 2018 Tundra.
Damn, these new vehicles have some serious technology. It's heads and tails beyond even my wife's 2016 Highlander.

[GS8]

I like to have fun when I drive so nothing really distracts me. Plus I love the rickety feeling of my 20 year old car, supercharger whine and my phone set to vibrate, rubbing my scrotum constantly because I'm still a scene kid.

:sweetjesus: this is life

[vkisselev]

The newer 'built-in options' are terrible... holy crap, the 2016 civic and that shitty touch panel to choose things like music, audio source, etc... and yah, i get it..."but you can do all that with voice recognition" lol..yah right... that shit never works.

these new infotainment systems are just as distracting... i'll bet those are next to be put on the list..


my biggest gripe is the filthy smokers...they got something frickin' burning in their hands while driving... so...they drop the butt...what do u think happens?? they let their seat burn/pants burn? no... they get distracted and try to find the burning butt feverishly before it burns. lame lame lame...and of course, even if they are treating their lungs like an ashtray - they dont want to treat their car like an ashtray...rather they throw the butt out the window....

Wow lol I really hope one day you pull up next to me while I'm having a cigarette. Would love to witness this rant in person, as I casually exhale :fullofwin:

[BIC_BAWS]

most of us know this of course, but there's a large amount of noobs on here....

so.. noobs... take my advice, take your smartphone and throw it into the backseat so you can't reach it... most of you probably have bluetooth so no need to have the phone in your hand....

Toss it in the glove box or the centre console, or if you really want to be safe against tickets - in the trunk. Cops can't say shit when it's physically not on you.

[mb_]

Can't you use your phone GPS it is mounted to the dash? If you rely on GPS so much to get around that's where it should be anyways, not your crotch.

Ya that's allowed. I have mine mounted to my dash at all times even when I'm not using it as a GPS.

[FerrariEnzo]

They gotta make it worse.. like license suspension or something otherwise people will never learn.. and for people whos receive one, have their car towed!

:ilied:

[UnknownJinX]

I like to have fun when I drive so nothing really distracts me. Plus I love the rickety feeling of my 20 year old car, supercharger whine and my phone set to vibrate, rubbing my scrotum constantly because I'm still a scene kid.

:sweetjesus: this is life

Yep, my car is too fun for me to get distracted.

Wow lol I really hope one day you pull up next to me while I'm having a cigarette. Would love to witness this rant in person, as I casually exhale, leave tar in the car and destroy the resale value

FIFY.:troll:

Toss it in the glove box or the centre console, or if you really want to be safe against tickets - in the trunk. Cops can't say shit when it's physically not on you.

I just toss my Mate 9(which is freakin' massive) in the door pocket when I drive.

[TOPEC]

I did something I'll never do again. I didn't think it'd work, was kind of funny but not at all since it almost caused an accident. I was behind a young girl / woman who was clearly on her phone at a stop light. I honked my horn while the light was still red, she actually started to go. Looking back I assume she does that so often that she gets honked at for sitting at green lights and knew to just go. She drove forward about 20ft before realizing what was going on and stopped and backed up.

did something similar way back in like 2007 before all this cell phone ban. had a car with a loud exhaust, i reved a bit to roll the car forward, chick beside me looking down at her phone heard me and started accelerating... into the back of the car stopped in front of her. wasnt done intentionally as i just wanted to roll the car forward :pokerface:

[ImportPsycho]

I'm all for it if cops do less of standing in nice cool shades under the skytrain pillars, and more driving around and nabbing those who are actually DRIVING AND USING their phone.

[AzNightmare]

Distracted driving is a huge problem. Every time I'm at a stop light you can always see someone looking into their lap every half second, clearly on their phone or picking a mustard stain off of their pants.

I did something I'll never do again. I didn't think it'd work, was kind of funny but not at all since it almost caused an accident. I was behind a young girl / woman who was clearly on her phone at a stop light. I honked my horn while the light was still red, she actually started to go. Looking back I assume she does that so often that she gets honked at for sitting at green lights and knew to just go. She drove forward about 20ft before realizing what was going on and stopped and backed up.

What an stupid girl... So what? she just started driving forward for 20 feet while still having her eyes on the phone to not notice the light was still red? That's even more retarded.

[AzNightmare]

I like to have fun when I drive so nothing really distracts me. Plus I love the rickety feeling of my 20 year old car, supercharger whine and my phone set to vibrate, rubbing my scrotum constantly because I'm still a scene kid.

:sweetjesus: this is life

When I'm driving, I get into this zone of concentration. I can't stand distractions. Everything is set up while I'm warming up my car, including putting my phone in silent.

As soon as I shift in gear and start rolling, I don't touch my phone until I reach my destination.

[The Producer]

Dozens ticketed for distracted driving despite helpful warning signs | Vancouver Sun (http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/dozens-of-drivers-ticketed-for-distracted-driving-despite-helpful-warning-signs)

74 tickets handed out in 2 hours despite giant signage stating that cops are checking for cell phones.

too busy looking at phones to see the signs I guess

just the morning some idiot rolled up a one way towards me staring down at her phone. She was stunned when I honked at her

zero sympathy for these fools

[supafamous]

So there was a crackdown today at the Hwy 1 offramp to Grandview and I was pulled over and accused of using my phone while driving (I wasn't). A cop was stationed at the overpass and called it in.

I told the cop that I wasn't using my phone and pointed out that I was driving a manual and that I didn't have enough hands to be using my phone (I believe the cop assumed that my hand reaching for the shifter was his clue). I was pretty pissed and didn't consider the ways I could have shown the cop that I wasn't using my phone - I wear an Apple Watch to get my messages and there was a pile of messages on it waiting to be read - but he did eventually just give me a warning and told me that I wasn't allowed to have my phone in my cupholder.

Reading through the notes on this - it sounds like it's okay to have my phone in the cupholder if it's not in use? The law seems a bit fuzzy on it.

[Hehe]

IMO the location of where to place your phone needs a bit more thoughtful than what it demands now.

Yes, I know cars with USB connections usually have the USB port inside of a compartment by the armrest. But given the popularity of BT connectivity, I really only use the USB port if I need to recharge, and the rest of the time, it'd goes to the same spot it has always go even before Smartphone became a thing: pax side if I'm alone and cupholder if someone is sitting there. It puzzles me that neither options are actually ok now and somehow a vent-mount is good? :fulloffuck:

I think by having the phone in a vent mount is way easier for one to be distracted as comparing to cupholder or pax seat.

The law needs some clarification on this and if needed, demand car companies to build their cars to collaborate these laws.

Right now we are in a situation where no one has a clear idea on what is ok and what's not. The law says even drinking from a cup/eating is not ok... and yet police say it's "discretionary". Why the fuck do car manufacturer build cupholders if it's illegal to drink a bottle water? It shouldn't even be in a place where driver can reach with their hand given our current law... and it shows how narrow-sighted these law were put together.

[ScizzMoney]

I just put my phone in the center console or in my glovebox. A lot of us are my age (35) or older and we didn't grow up with cellphones so they aren't glued to us like all those meddling kids. Having our phone out of reach isn't a big deal to most of us I assume.

[twitchyzero]

cupholders aren't limited to cars in BC built after March 2018

yeah I saw them darting through traffic at Grandview off-ramp...basically stopped two vehicles when it was green at one of the busiest intersections in East Van...in their defence it was a Saturday :derp:

[DavidNguyen]

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/driving-and-transportation/driving/publications/electronic-devices-while-driving.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiWuLbE_JHaAhVS9mMKHcrbBJYQFjABegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw0YKwAClIfxPPaeokXLb-qL

Here's the cell phone law.
I got a cell phone holder that I use for YouTube music.
That would probably be consider distracting driving

So make sure you have Google maps ready to be open

[AstulzerRZD]

Ontario is about to do automatic suspension for distracted driving: Ontario's tough distracted driving laws one step closer to taking effect (http://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/01/15/ontario-distracted-driving-laws/)

[twitchyzero]

looks like watches don't count, as they are secured and not hand-held

guess I can instagram on an apple watch while driving on a highway and get away with it but not drinking slurpee pulled over to the side, cool

are there any bluetooth peripherals that can trigger google assistant/siri...excluding the $700+ carplay/aauto decks

[teggy604]

I just put my phone in the center console or in my glovebox. A lot of us are my age (35) or older and we didn't grow up with cellphones so they aren't glued to us like all those meddling kids. Having our phone out of reach isn't a big deal to most of us I assume.

Also when we grew up driving, cars were simple. You got your basic climate control, and radio. Driving was actually driving because there was not much you can do.

I was at the autoshow yesterday and every car I sat in, I ask myself am I operating a vehicle or an airline. At the Honda booth they had a 1980 Honda civic for display, and also at the Mazda booth they had a 1990 old school miata. I'd still take those cars over the new stuff they have today.