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: SUV/CUV choices, advise and suggestions


FerrariEnzo
04-25-2018, 07:54 AM
So after looking around some more for a nice CUV/SUV, I think Ive got some choices..

Hyundai Kona / Tuscon
Toyota Rav4 (2019)
Mazda CX3 / CX5



These ones still not sure. Volvo and Mercedes was a final toss in because they look pretty good and price wise isnt too expensive. Volvo has that weird shifter..

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
Volvo XC40
Mercedes GLA


Anyone has experiences with most of these cars, please give your thoughts.
My finance on my current car is finished in June...

yray
04-25-2018, 08:03 AM
So after looking around some more for a nice CUV/SUV, I think Ive got some choices..

Hyundai Kona / Tuscon
Toyota Rav4 (2019)
Mazda CX3 / CX5



These ones still not sure. Volvo and Mercedes was a final toss in because they look pretty good and price wise isnt too expensive. Volvo has that weird shifter..

Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross
Volvo XC40
Mercedes GLA


Anyone has experiences with most of these cars, please give your thoughts.
My finance on my current car is finished in June...

Volvo shifter is pretty much a normal automatic shifter.

I don't think a xc40 comes with the crystal dildo shifter, that one is fucked up.

edit: nvm, it did come with the fucked up dildo shifter but wrapped in leather. I would wait for the phev xc40 if i were you. Nothing like hogging up the charging spot so mg1 can't charge.

Qmx323
04-25-2018, 08:11 AM
GLA

Drives like how much it costs. My 17 Civic hatch ride quality is on par with it. Interior is the new age - cheapo benz plastic style, small small cabin, shares many interior components with the Infiniti QX30. Really buying for the badge with this one, your money can go bit further.

Kona

If you care about resale value at all, don't finance this one. Lease it, beat it, ditch it. Handles well for what it is. 1st model year car from a brand that hasn't been super strong in terms of reliability/quality. The main draw is the price - Which can add up because the base comes very base.

CX-3

Small, tight cabin, good driving dynamics. Steering is precise. Downside is lack of luggage space, overall size (It's a hatchback, not a CUV). Available with great tech.

Only know these 3 well enough to comment. If I were in your shoes I would be between the XC40 and Rav4. XC40 reviews have been very, very good.

J-Chow
04-25-2018, 02:52 PM
CX-5

Had the 2014 model before, then traded it in for the 2015 Toyota Sienna.
Overall, interior quality was nice, not too cheap but too expensive looking.
Cargo room decent, even with one stroller in the trunk.
Performance was adequate for what it is. I think around 185 HP area, but the steering was magnificent. Very sporty like.
In the end, IF I only had 1 kid, and didn't need to haul around the grandparents, I would have kept my CX-5.

What other factors are you considering when buying a CUV/SUV?

FerrariEnzo
04-25-2018, 07:17 PM
My Mom has the 2016 CX5 and I like it a lot but not so much as having 2.. so I might lean away from this one..

The one big feature I love is the Panorama sunroof, Tucson and XC40 both have it, not sure about Rav4 and CX5.

Im starting to like the XC40, saw a bunch of reviews from different countries to see the overall opinion. One thing I hate on it is the shift, you have to double tap the shift down to go into drive, double tap up to go into reverse. The manual power up and down is left and right on the shift.. other then this 1 big ass flaw, i think it might be the one..

Has anyone driven the XC40? any comments?

Manic!
04-25-2018, 07:35 PM
My Mom has the 2016 CX5 and I like it a lot but not so much as having 2.. so I might lean away from this one..

The one big feature I love is the Panorama sunroof, Tucson and XC40 both have it, not sure about Rav4 and CX5.

Im starting to like the XC40, saw a bunch of reviews from different countries to see the overall opinion. One thing I hate on it is the shift, you have to double tap the shift down to go into drive, double tap up to go into reverse. The manual power up and down is left and right on the shift.. other then this 1 big ass flaw, i think it might be the one..

Has anyone driven the XC40? any comments?

If you want a XC 40 you have to order one and it's a 7 month wait.

!Aznboi128
04-25-2018, 09:00 PM
if your current car is finished in June theres not enough time for you to get the XC40 as said above. If you want the pano roof, the cx5 would not have that so Tucson would be the better option.

I have a cx-3 but driven all of Mazda's lineup of cars. If you like driving feel you'll love how Mazdas drive but they suffer in other aspects. Both the cx3 and cx5 has small trunk space and their infotainment system isn't the best. The Tucson with the 1.6 is pretty punchy and plenty of torque around town.

Thing to note: pano roof on Hyundais tends to rattle/ sequel after a while.

mb_
04-25-2018, 09:52 PM
My dad has a CX-5 and it's probably the most fun CUV to drive out there, except for straight line speed. There is no panoramic sunroof available. Mazda also has very attractive lease/finance rates

FerrariEnzo
04-26-2018, 05:04 AM
If you want a XC 40 you have to order one and it's a 7 month wait.
Wow I didnt realize it was in so much demand..

if your current car is finished in June theres not enough time for you to get the XC40 as said above. If you want the pano roof, the cx5 would not have that so Tucson would be the better option.

I have a cx-3 but driven all of Mazda's lineup of cars. If you like driving feel you'll love how Mazdas drive but they suffer in other aspects. Both the cx3 and cx5 has small trunk space and their infotainment system isn't the best. The Tucson with the 1.6 is pretty punchy and plenty of torque around town.

Thing to note: pano roof on Hyundais tends to rattle/ sequel after a while.
Its on Finance and not leased, so even a 7months wait is alright.. I just want to get the right one.
Thanks for the tip about the pano roofs on the hyundais

yray
04-26-2018, 07:50 AM
Wow I didnt realize it was in so much demand..



Well Volvo canada does some weird shit.

I got a S90 so pm me if you got any questions. Car should be somewhat the same in terms of electronics etc.

Galactic_Phantom
04-26-2018, 08:23 AM
Since you're considering the Rav4 and Tucson might as well look at a Ford Escape or Honda CRV as well.

Escape has a panoramic moonroof and a decently peppy 2L. 0% for 48 months

CRV looks pretty cool and has a bunch of tech stuff available

fliptuner
04-26-2018, 08:26 AM
My Mom has the 2016 CX5 and I like it a lot but not so much as having 2.. so I might lean away from this one..

I don't really follow your logic on this. If you like it a lot and it fits the bill, who cares if there are 2 parked in the garage?

!Aznboi128
04-26-2018, 12:49 PM
The new CRV is pretty sweet, there's pano roof only for the top model as well.
http://www.revscene.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/0002555-1024x683.jpg

https://www.revscene.net/revscene-reviews-2017-honda-crv-touring/

snowball
04-26-2018, 07:12 PM
Pretty sure you're set on the Volvo, if you look around and don't see too much wrong with it, follow what your heart desires!

IMASA
04-26-2018, 08:29 PM
I wouldn't consider the CRV until the fuel/oil dilution issue with the 1.5L turbo engine is figured out, said to affect mostly colder areas. CRV sales in China have halted as the government wasn't satisfied with Honda's solution to reflash the ECU.

I've been lurking around the CRV forums and all Honda is doing so far is taking names and telling dealerships to change the oil when people complain that their oil level is 1-2" higher than the max mark on the dip stick.

Gnomes
04-27-2018, 04:53 AM
Judging from carcomplaints.com, CRV (https://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/CR-V/) seems to have the highest problems by far, followed by a large distance Tucson (https://www.carcomplaints.com/Hyundai/Tucson/), then CX5 (https://www.carcomplaints.com/Mazda/CX-5/), and finally RAV4 (https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/RAV4/) being the lowest

Mind you, CRV probably has one of the highest number sold thus more people using = more complaints too.

FerrariEnzo
04-27-2018, 05:09 PM
Thank all for your input.

Klondike
04-27-2018, 05:51 PM
My Mom has the 2016 CX5 and I like it a lot but not so much as having 2.. so I might lean away from this one..

The one big feature I love is the Panorama sunroof, Tucson and XC40 both have it, not sure about Rav4 and CX5.

Im starting to like the XC40, saw a bunch of reviews from different countries to see the overall opinion. One thing I hate on it is the shift, you have to double tap the shift down to go into drive, double tap up to go into reverse. The manual power up and down is left and right on the shift.. other then this 1 big ass flaw, i think it might be the one..

Has anyone driven the XC40? any comments?

Drove the XC40. You'll get used to the weird ass shifter, double tapping into R and D. You can turn off the car in D and it'll go back to park like in a BMW.

The manual mode is one tap down from drive and you slap it left and right. Pushing down cycles between manual mode and drive.

FerrariEnzo
04-29-2018, 02:08 PM
Whats the reliability of the new Volvo's?

yray
04-30-2018, 08:10 AM
Whats the reliability of the new Volvo's?

pretty stable now, volvo did a bunch of buy backs on the first year of the SPA xc90 due to engine issues but thats pretty much smoothed out. Also, the xc40s will be running the T5 anyways

nav system is way more stable now, slow but stable

you got warranty behind you so it should be good and volvo has been doing alot of buy back even though they are 2+ year old due to new car teething issues.

thumper
05-01-2018, 07:03 AM
what about the vw tiguan?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/VW_Tiguan_2.0_TDI_4MOTION_R-Line_%28II%29_%E2%80%93_Frontansicht%2C_19._Septem ber_2015%2C_Frankfurt.jpg

audi q3?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/u9LHzhvaZho/maxresdefault.jpg

infiniti qx30? (yes it's a MB GLA underneath but maybe it's not so cheap inside? i dunno)

https://inventory-dmg.assets-cdk.com/4/0/4/15552217404x640.jpg

Traum
05-01-2018, 09:44 AM
I wouldn't consider the CRV until the fuel/oil dilution issue with the 1.5L turbo engine is figured out, said to affect mostly colder areas. CRV sales in China have halted as the government wasn't satisfied with Honda's solution to reflash the ECU.

I've been lurking around the CRV forums and all Honda is doing so far is taking names and telling dealerships to change the oil when people complain that their oil level is 1-2" higher than the max mark on the dip stick.
Interesting to hear about this. Is it a CRV-only problem? Or does it affect other applications of Honda's 1.5T engine as well? If it does, wouldn't Honda be fxxked since it is pretty ubiquitous across their lineup?

GabAlmighty
05-01-2018, 10:06 AM
Yup. The ones up here are fucked. Some lady posted about it on the classifieds page and that Honda is wiping their hands of it. Oil change time and fuel comes out of it haha.

This is for a CRV.

Gotta make sure the front is covered right up and take it out on the highway regularly and do some WOT pulls to heat everything up.

!Aznboi128
05-03-2018, 03:50 PM
Actually if you're looking for higher end stuff the new QX50 looks pretty interesting.

Manic!
05-04-2018, 12:02 PM
Jaguar E pace. 5k more than the CX 40 and is available now.

https://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/960/500/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2018-Jaguar-E-Pace-R-Dynamic-P300-REVIEW-HERO-1.jpg

yray
05-04-2018, 12:55 PM
^ everytime I hear E pace, I thought it would be like a EV...

AzNightmare
05-04-2018, 01:21 PM
I remember back when I was in the market, I noticed the CX3 is really small for what it is. I believe a Mazda3 actually has more space than it.

IMASA
05-04-2018, 01:43 PM
I remember back when I was in the market, I noticed the CX3 is really small for what it is. I believe a Mazda3 actually has more space than it.

The CX-3 is based off a Mazda2.

FerrariEnzo
05-04-2018, 01:51 PM
Jaguar E pace. 5k more than the CX 40 and is available now.

https://s3.caradvice.com.au/thumb/960/500/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2018-Jaguar-E-Pace-R-Dynamic-P300-REVIEW-HERO-1.jpg
Not sure if this review is bias but they favour the XC40 over the X2 and E-Pace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9WpHxZ3hfc

tiger_handheld
05-06-2018, 06:38 PM
subscribed.

Manic!
05-07-2018, 02:23 PM
Went to Volvos site to see in the had an inventory search. They do not. Did an online chat with the Volvo dealership in Victoria.

Each of the dealers received 2 XC40s. Our two are for test drives only, until some inventory is available. As of now, there are only factory orders being taken. It sounds like you are on a shorter timeline. Have you driven one yet?


My last three are scheduled for late-August to late September. There may be stock on the ground by then, but we have no real way of knowing because there has been overwhelming amount of orders.

Well, I'm pretty sure all the dealers are in the same boat in terms of inventory. The Jag is lovely! Anything else I can help with. And you're right about size. The 10 inch difference between 40 and 60 makes a difference.

Other dealer is surrey told me it was a 7 month wait. I could understand it this was a high end luxury car but this is a 40-50K CUV. They should have inventory to sell day one. Can't wait for the day Amazon starts selling cars.

tiger_handheld
05-07-2018, 07:37 PM
Any Kia hybrids that fall into this category?

TouringTeg
05-07-2018, 08:38 PM
Cx3 and Mazda3 look super close in size when next to each other. Cx3 is just a bit taller.

snowball
05-07-2018, 11:15 PM
^

Exterior yes, the it's ridiculous how much more room is in the Mazda3... CX-3 is a car no one asked for.

yray
05-10-2018, 09:54 AM
https://youtu.be/VMw3aJB1-jw

ohh xc40 has polestar opt.

Liquid_o2
05-10-2018, 10:07 AM
Any Kia hybrids that fall into this category?

Kia Niro is the only hybrid Kia CUV. Unless you count the Soul. I test drove the Kia Niro... really liked that it had a dual-clutch automatic rather than a CVT. Made a big difference. Really nice appointments and tons of tech for $30,000. Good car as long as you aren't in a hurry anywhere. I think it's 0-60 time is 9.5 seconds...

FerrariEnzo
07-08-2018, 09:58 PM
So I googled for the 2019 Hyundai Tucson... They are getting rid of the 1.6T and replacing it with a 2.0l and 2.4l both non turbo...

"Under the hood, the SE and Value grades will feature a 2.0-liter I-4 that’s estimated to make the same 164 hp and 151 lb-ft of torque as the outgoing base models. SEL, Sport, and Limited models will have a 2.4-liter I-4 projected to generate 181 hp and 175 lb-ft, replacing the 175-hp, 195-lb-ft 1.6-liter turbo-four. A six-speed automatic transmission will be the only gearbox available on the 2019 Tucson, as the seven-speed dual-clutch unit will no longer be offered."
https://www.motortrend.ca/en/news/2019-hyundai-tucson-first-look-review/

Not sure if Im gona like this new drivetrain... But the exterior/interior is falling in with the Hyundai trend....

I was at OpenRoad Hyundai Richmond getting my car service and test drove the Kona. Really like the HUD and overall feel of the kona 1.6T but I ended up getting quotes and pricing for the 2018 Tucon 1.6T Ultimate because I love the Panoramic Roof among other features.

J____
07-09-2018, 07:45 AM
Hyundai's new Santa Fe is damn good looking. Subaru Ascent isn't as attractive but has 7-8 seats depending on option and probably the best AWD system in a SUV other than a Truck based suv with full lockers (rubicon, 4runner, lexus gx, landcruiser)

if you don't care about looks or crazy offroading, probably I'd go with the ascent for AWD system and descent gas mileage.

FerrariEnzo
07-09-2018, 05:13 PM
thats a little too big for me.. I prefer something smaller like the Tucson/Rav4 type size..

kiwee
07-10-2018, 02:45 PM
Has anyone test drive the new rdx?