[Great68]

I'm actively shopping for a new (to us) truck. Was looking more at F150's but this Tundra has my interest.

Other than high kms and wanker rims, looks ok? But I have no idea what issues I should be looking for, especially on one that's 10 years old.

This is going to become the wife's daily driver.

Worth looking at?

https://www.varagesale.com/victoria-bc-swap-shop/i/ufgg4byc-2009-toyota-tundra-double-cab-trd?utm_campaign=retention-vs-item&utm_content=item_authed&utm_medium=email

[Hondaracer]

Everything I’ve ever heard about them is they are brutalllllll on fuel. Decent looking truck though

[MarkyMark]

Other than a cosmetic change in 2014 it's pretty much the same truck they sell today. I think those early years had issues with frame rust so you might want to look into that. But yeah, solid engine but pretty basic and not the best on gas when I was looking at them. Ended up getting an F150 myself but I'm not loyal to any brand.

I'd probably look at the last gen Titan in a similar year, they are dependable and you'll probably get a better bang for your buck.

[Infiniti]

5.7L!! That must hurt to fill up.

[lowside67]

I’m trying to resist the bait but I can’t help it. Why would anybody who isn’t a tradesperson or a farmer choose to drive an older full sized gas hog pick up as their daily driver in a city?

Mark

[TjAlmeida]

Reliable but pigs on fuel.

[MG1]

The Tundra is not like a desert or the tropics..........

Biomes, ftmfw!

Earth Science class with Dr. Chandra Madhosingh at Britannia (China) High.

[GabAlmighty]

Look good after a lift and tires. Brutal on fuel, but Toyota reliability.

5.7L!! That must hurt to fill up.

You're not filling up the engine...

[Tegra_Devil]

i have tundra, bought it new. never had a problem, super reliable, but a gas guzzler. gas isnt too bad in kamloops though.

edit: also great resale and crewmax is the only way to go


something that happens occasionally is a cam-tower leak. google it for what it is and how to locate it. super easy to find in the wheel well

[vitaminG]

I saw this one recently, seems like a great deal.

2008 Toyota Tundra Limited 5.7L 4x4 Double Cab 6.5ft box with 3” lift - $19500 (https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/cto/d/surrey-2008-toyota-tundra-limited-57l/6883172017.html)

I know from experience ecoboost f150 gets better fuel economy though. My fiends tundra gets 18-19 l/100 and I get 16.5L/100 mostly city in mine with levelling kit and 33s. Might even be for sale soon if you're interested...

[fliptuner]

I'm pushing 200k on my '10 that I bought off hypa.

I'll sacrifice fuel economy for reliability, any day, especially with a truck. Check if the wheel bearings have been done - it can be a $2k+ job. It cost me $600 in parts and a day in my garage to DIY. I also replaced the rear driveshaft U-joints, both in the last 15k. The only other mod is a set of air helper springs, since I tow and haul.

https://i.imgur.com/p2KOqb2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vcJm5SR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XQgblOA.jpg

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

http://s.mtgprice.com/sets/Revised/img/Tundra.full.jpg

[Infiniti]

You're not filling up the engine...

Are you being purposefully dense?

[Great68]

Thanks guys, you've definately given me some info to consider. I appreciate it.

[fliptuner]

I'd also consider a same gen, GM 2500/6.0. LS based, better fuel economy than the Toy, possibly better bang for the buck.

[Great68]

I’m trying to resist the bait but I can’t help it. Why would anybody who isn’t a tradesperson or a farmer choose to drive an older full sized gas hog pick up as their daily driver in a city?

Mark

Not sure if you're being rhetorical, but here's our reasons:

A)The wife's commute is 12km, the majority of it a rural road. She hits all of 4 intersections (two stop signs and two traffic lights) on her route. Fuel economy isn't a huge concern, and can't be a whole lot worse than the Sonoma which she drives now

B)We need a vehicle with a bed to move shit. Between our house and our allotment garden we do a lot of gardening, move tools etc. In April I moved 5 yards of topsoil/compost and 7 yards of mulch. This friday I'm picking up an order of custom milled cedar to build a new fence. The bed might not be in use all the time, but it's invaluably convenient to have available when you need it.

C)A camper or trailer is in the cards for the future.

D)The wife simply likes driving a truck

E)The costs to keep insurance and maintenance on a 4th vehicle that'll be used infrequently doesn't make sense.

[Hondaracer]

Having a detached home i use the "truck" functionality of mine a tonne.

I'd love to not have to drive a gas guzzling truck but like 68, Im always going to the dump, getting materials, dirt etc.

The majority of these things i could not do with even with a bigger SUV etc.

[Hehe]

As many have already said. Brutal on fuel but highly reliable.

Family owns one with over 300k on the odo and still going strong with only the factory service schedule. And it has seen all sort of rough terrains imaginable.

[Badhobz]

So tundra vs Tacoma, tundra is more reliable ? I kind want a truck for some reason.

[originalhypa]

Gas mileage is terrible, reliability is awesome. I'll take the good with the bad.
Don't listen to the guy who was talking about Titans either. They're great trucks, if you get a good one. Based on the research that I did before buying either of my Tundras, it's a crapshoot whether or not you're going to get a Titan lemon.

The Tundra doesn't have half the bells and whistles that my buddie's Ram Rebel has, but as he is finding a year into his purchase, that's just more stuff to break. I actually came really close to buying a Raptor instead, but the $108k price tag, and the arrogance from the Ford dealer was enough for me to walk away. In hindsight, the fantasy of driving the Raptor is what sucked me in. The reality is that it also has poor gas mileage, along with a myriad of other issues including bad trannies and melted turbos. Not worth it, imho.


I'm pushing 200k on my '10 that I bought off hypa.

I'll sacrifice fuel economy for reliability, any day, especially with a truck. Check if the wheel bearings have been done - it can be a $2k+ job. It cost me $600 in parts and a day in my garage to DIY. I also replaced the rear driveshaft U-joints, both in the last 15k. The only other mod is a set of air helper springs, since I tow and haul.

https://i.imgur.com/p2KOqb2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vcJm5SR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XQgblOA.jpg

Damn, that was such a great truck. And one of the few vehicles that I have sold with 100% confidence that it won't let you down. That's why people buy Toyotas. Unlike Ford or Dodge where 100k kms might as well be listed in dog years, Toyotas are just getting warmed up.

Back when yours was bigger than mine.
https://i.imgur.com/Dg0tZoA.jpg

:lol

https://i.imgur.com/stPdHcF.jpg

And a cool Tacoma too, because why not.
https://i.imgur.com/pl2b85B.jpg

[fliptuner]

So tundra vs Tacoma, tundra is more reliable ? I kind want a truck for some reason.

If we're talking 4.0 Taco vs. 5.7 Tundra, go for the latter, definitely. The Taco is just as shitty on fuel but smaller, less payload, towing, torque and interior space, and carry a Taco-tax - those things just don't depreciate. Used, the Tundra wins, hands down.

[originalhypa]

So tundra vs Tacoma, tundra is more reliable ? I kind want a truck for some reason.

First you're talking about moving to Langley, and now you're looking at buying a truck?!

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/chinese-man-wearing-cowboy-hat-picture-id684063988?s=612x612

LULLULLUL


Will you join the wife and I at the curling rink this winter?
It's not far from High Point. I'm only a little bit joking too, I really like curling.
:lol

[subordinate]

So tundra vs Tacoma, tundra is more reliable ? I kind want a truck for some reason.

The carmen I've talked to vote tacoma's (Granted, they ain't comparing to the tundras, just the Fords) And they drive like it's stolen

[AstulzerRZD]

The carmen I've talked to vote tacoma's (Granted, they ain't comparing to the tundras, just the Fords) And they drive like it's stolen

Are the previous generation Tacoma's better?

My frame of reference is a string of 4.6/5.0 F-150 XLT Supercabs in the family since the mid 2000s

I had a '19 TRD Off-Road 3.5 as a corp rental and wasn't sure I understood it.

Steering was un-necessarily heavy, especially at parking lot.

I didn't think it had the 3.5 until I popped the hood, low end torque is quite poor (possibly due to the atkinson cycle programming?). Really had to give it large throttle inputs to get anywhere quickly even in sport mode.

Electronic brake pedal booster felt weird as well.

[subordinate]

Are the previous generation Tacoma's better?

My frame of reference is a string of 4.6/5.0 F-150 XLT Supercabs in the family since the mid 2000s

I had a '19 TRD Off-Road 3.5 as a corp rental and wasn't sure I understood it.

Steering was un-necessarily heavy, especially at parking lot.

I didn't think it had the 3.5 until I popped the hood, low end torque is quite poor (possibly due to the atkinson cycle programming?). Really had to give it large throttle inputs to get anywhere quickly even in sport mode.

Electronic brake pedal booster felt weird as well.

Reference was to older gen Tacomas. Heard mixed on the newer ones.

But my knowledge is limited on trucks. Just looking at it now, but that's good to know that the new tacos are dogs.

[Hondaracer]

Hey my 2000 F150 is still going over 300k you ford haters!! Lol

Taco is a truck for granola munching overlanders. “Small” trucks like that are a bit prohibitive in terms of the “truck” functionality. You can’t even fit a sheet of plywood in the bed.

Personally I’d never even consider a taco because A) it doesn’t serve my needs for a truck, and B) the interior is very tight and the opposite of what I want in a truck.

Not to mention the price tag. I get the Toyota reliability and as Hypa said you guy the fancier ram for cheaper and just have problems

However, a guy I used to work with bought a brand new taco for like 46k or somthing stupid all plastic interior, the most basic cloth seats, plastic dials etc.

Then a carpenter on the other side bought a Laramie ram, big engine, quad cab, leather and wood grain everything etc. for the same price as the taco. Taco’s are a bit about diminishing returns imo. I think personally I’d deal with some reliability issues and have leather and wood grain over plastic and small

[fliptuner]

First you're talking about moving to Langley, and now you're looking at buying a truck?!

Will you join the wife and I at the curling rink this winter?
It's not far from High Point. I'm only a little bit joking too, I really like curling.
:lol

Curling?!?! We're in. Never been, always wanted to.

[MarkyMark]

I had a 2010 Tacoma and my 14' F150 is better in every way imaginable. If I planned to keep the truck 20 years then maybe the Toyota is the better choice but it's not like every other manufacturers truck is just going to fall apart in comparison like some people here make it sound.

[punkwax]

^ this. If you plan to keep it 10+ years spend the extra $ on a Toyota. I’m a sucker for the Tundra but tend to keep my vehicles for 5 years or so before I move on. For that reason, F150 FX4 is what I’d likely go for if I was shopping for a truck today.

I like tacos too and they’re big enough for my needs but the F150 is a lot more truck for the money. Especially during employee pricing days.

My wife wants a truck (and a boat fml) and we’ve had the Sienna for almost 5 years. If it weren’t for the ability to send one of the kids to the back row when they’re getting on each other’s nerves, I probably would have got into an FX4 by now.

[quasi]

I've always liked the F150's I had as company trucks.

I have to provide my own vehicle now, I bought a 2018 Colorado last year which is barley a truck. It's alright gets me to and from work but I'd prefer a Ford. Wife already told me to go ahead and buy another truck and she'll take mine but with the house shopping I don't really want to be buying another vehicle at the moment.

[Badhobz]

im 99% sure my ancestors are rolling in their graves due to my found desire for country living.

"le say chun lun yeh(stupid fucking dick head), we leave farm generations ago and now you want to go back!?!?!"

PogChamp

I got it all figured out Hypa.

2 properties = 1 high point house
1 maserati = tundra + gassssss
1 scooter = 3 craigslist animals (some beat up old horse, a retarded sheep, etc)

THEN Ill be done and i can die there.

Unless i neglect my lawn, in which my white neighbors will promptly tell me so and then after continuous neglect, probably set a burning cross on my lawn followed by a good old fashion lynching......

OR ill just get a job at CP rail and get blown up rebuilding CP's dying infrastructure. JUST LIKE GRANDPA!!!

[PeanutButter]

I always heard that Honda's and Toyota's are reliable, but all of the cars i've had were somewhat reliable.

My dad had a Ford Ranger for 10 years = reliable. Traded it in for a F150, never had a problem with it, had that for 10 years, sold that and bought a Toyota Tacoma and has had that for two years.

Our family has also had a BMW since 1990 and those were all reliable too. We have owned two 325i's with no issues and two X5's, both unsurprisingly had oil leaks and had to change some hoses and the oil pan.

My wife drives a Nissan sentra and we had to pay $900 to fix the passenger side wheel bearing.

I was surprised it was that much to fix a Nissan part....

It seems like every car we had, there are just typical maintenance items we have to change.

[Badhobz]

I like the new f150's too but i heard they are horrible reliability wise. I guess its just luck of the draw.

Is there such a thing as an economical truck? hows that chevy colorado? is that good on gas? is it reliable?

[Hondaracer]

F150 has one of the better engines now with the 5.0 coyote and their new frame design seems like it’s built for the long term. I’ll be looking at few year old lease returns when I’m in the market for mine. F4L

[hud 91gt]

Colorado diesel is great on fuel. The Ram 1500 diesel too

[fliptuner]

I'm waiting for a decent Ram 1500 diesel, to come up for auction. All the ones that have gone through, are rollovers - the hillbillies up North, really know how to fuck shit up.

[twitchyzero]

Taco is a truck for granola munching overlanders. “Small” trucks like that are a bit prohibitive in terms of the “truck” functionality. You can’t even fit a sheet of plywood in the bed.

personally I’d deal with some reliability issues and have leather and wood grain over plastic and small

versus rednecks that expect leather and wood grain in a pick-up? BrokeBack

not everyone's in trade or owns an acrege, products like Ranger, Bronco and Defender are coming back for good reasons

[MG1]

I like my 2006 Ridgeline. I haven't driven it for a couple of years now, but if I ever need to haul some sheets of plywood, I'll just put temporary insurance on it. It takes plywood flat in its bed. It tows 5000 lbs, which is good enough for all my needs. I'm not sure how reliable it is. I only have 180k on it, but drove it across North America. All the way to New York, up to Nova Scotia and back in 4-1/2 weeks, almost non-stop, lol. It's comfortable enough. Not your gun toting, Albertan truck, that's for sure. It's different enough and borders on not being a truck. Unibody on a frame. Neat little features.I was concerned about it being designed and built in NA, but it's been okay. Leak issues due to poor workmanship, but it's all taken care of.

I start it up every now and then to make sure there'd be no surprises when I might actually need it.

Anyway.......... carry on carrying on.

[underscore]

If you're buying used you have to be careful where a domestic truck is coming from, if it's been used for any kind of work up north or on the prairies it's been beat to shit and left idling forever. I almost never see imports out at sites though.

If you're buying new a Toyota costs about the same as everything else but it's more reliable and has better resale. My inlaws bought a brand new Ram and the screen that controls absolutely everything fried in the first 200km. They had to go to the dealer multiple times to get it "diagnosed", then it took another 2 months to get a replacement because who the fuck knows. When it finally showed up the apes at the dealer mangled the trim around it getting the old one out so they had to wait another 2 weeks for a new one of those as well. Somethings fucked with the headlights too because oncoming vehicles are constantly flashing them at night.

Maybe I'm just biased because the electrical in my 07 Jeep is a huge pile of shit but I'm genuinely curious how long some of the fancy features on this new truck can last before breaking.

[MarkyMark]

When I was looking at full size trucks the Tundra wasn't even close to the price of a similarly equipped F150 after factoring in discounts. Shit I think my F150 was 5k cheaper than a fully loaded Tacoma lol.

Don't get me wrong the Tacoma is good but it's not worth more than a well equipped F150. People seem to buy them purely based on the fact that they have good resale value. My Tacoma got the same gas mileage as my V8 F150, except the tank was half the size so I was filling up every 350km.

The Tacoma and Tundra are so reliable because they only update them once every 12 years.

[Hondaracer]

versus rednecks that expect leather and wood grain in a pick-up? BrokeBack

not everyone's in trade or owns an acrege, products like Ranger, Bronco and Defender are coming back for good reasons

Nothing like paying more to get less

[twitchyzero]

I like my 2006 Ridgeline. I haven't driven it for a couple of years now, but if I ever need to haul some sheets of plywood, I'll just put temporary insurance on it

U-Haul is $20

but you have sentimental value with, so that's different

OT, would 3 weeks across Canada & back be do-able and still be comfortable? 2 weeks there, one week back via the US/whatever is fastest

Nothing like paying more to get less

i'm sure the F350 owners say the same about F150

maybe just realize people have different needs/expectations

[MG1]

U-Haul is $20

but you have sentimental value with, so that's different

OT, would 3 weeks across Canada & back be do-able and still be comfortable? 2 weeks there, one week back via the US/whatever is fastest


Three weeks is doable, because I stopped at every roadside attraction and hit quite a few cities. If you have another driver, it's totally doable. Two of my kids went with me, but none of them could drive.

US is way faster. Shorter distance, plus higher speed limits. Driving through the Dakotas and Montana was nuts....... the speed limit was 80 mph. So many places to see in the US. Canada, not so much. I mean, the Prairies, Nuff Said.

[Badhobz]

I wanted to see Rideau SK for the corner gas set. Now even that's taken down

[quasi]

Has anyone looked at what the new Rangers are selling for? I went to the Ford Dealership yesterday and even the salesman was like yeah I wouldn't buy one of these they are overpriced. 20-30% more than an equivalent Colorado, might as well buy an F150 if you want a ford.

[punkwax]

No offence to anyone here but aside from the taco I wouldn’t buy anything other than a full size truck.

[Badhobz]

why though? isnt these midsized trucks just as capable? how much bigger is that rear bed? i dont get it.

[punkwax]

Full size trucks just seem to be way more reliable. Almost everyone I’ve known with rangers, Colorado’s etc have had problems, eventually get into a full size and regret not getting one in the first place.

[fliptuner]

I say midsized trucks are only good for camping or people that don't have kids and haul the occasional load.

For payload, towing, interior space, etc. full-size is the way to go. My Tundra is barely a 1/2T by my standards but it rarely revs past 3k rpm

[quasi]

Colorado works fine for me and I come from years of owning F150's. There are times when I do miss the F150 box but honestly even though I don't really like Chevrolet it's a pretty decent truck.

Has most the bells and whistles my F150's had although no Air conditioned seats but I manage. The back seat legroom obviously isn't the best but even my 6'5" 280 pound friend was surprised how roomy it was in the front and he drives a 2018 F350 and a 2018 Silverado.

[GabAlmighty]

why though? isnt these midsized trucks just as capable? how much bigger is that rear bed? i dont get it.

Power, payload, towing, interior space.

[EuterVanWasser]

Not to crap on Tundras, as I loved my Toyota.... but i'd personally never buy one... here's my advice:

First..... My buddy's been a Toyota guy his whole life and upgraded from a 4 cylinder 4Runner to a '17 Tundra a couple years to tow a bigger trailer (26 footer). I was really surprised to hear he was unhappy with the Tundra and was considering trading it in on a F150. This guy literally has driven 'Yotes for 25+ years and is a die hard Toyota guy. But, he's tired of the spartan interior and options relative to modern vehicles (creature comforts) and finds the Tundra a pig on gas and isn't happy with the towing performance.

Second...... me. I pined on a Taco for years and looked in to importing a 3.0L diesel Hilux from Mexico as I wanted a diesel light truck. Nissan finally launched the 5.0L diesel Titan so I jumped at it and bought a 2017 Titan XD Pro4X with the Cummins engine option. So look, while I love this Nissan and it definitely improved my girth (side note: my third Nissan and for the record, I've always been SUPER happy with how reliable Nissans are), I regret buying the Titan. I wasn't prepared for 2 things; the cost of diesel maintenance (Cummins engine requires new fuel filters every 25k/kms for example -- TWO fuel filters at $500 each) which pretty much negates the fuel savings of buying diesel, and having to deal with regeneration mode for the DPF which stinks to high hell once per week as the truck bakes.

So in retrospect, for the $$$ it cost me to buy the full load Titan, I could have bought almost TWO Ford F150s and not have to deal with the constant regeneration bullshit. I'd recommend a F150 FX4 Lariat over the Tundra any day of the week.

PS> Another minor thing to consider..it's way harder to find aftermarket options for the Titans/Tundras compared to domestics. Little things like bed options, window visors.. etc.

[twitchyzero]

well to be fair, one should compare Tundra to competitors from 2007, because that's how aged the design/tech/creature comforts/fuel econ have become

[originalhypa]

Curling?!?! We're in. Never been, always wanted to.

Langley Curling Centre (http://langleycurlingclub.com/)

Bonus: I'm easily the youngest and fittest guy out there.
:lol


im 99% sure my ancestors are rolling in their graves due to my found desire for country living.

"le say chun lun yeh(stupid fucking dick head), we leave farm generations ago and now you want to go back!?!?!"

PogChamp

I got it all figured out Hypa.

2 properties = 1 high point house
1 maserati = tundra + gassssss
1 scooter = 3 craigslist animals (some beat up old horse, a retarded sheep, etc)

THEN Ill be done and i can die there.

Unless i neglect my lawn, in which my white neighbors will promptly tell me so and then after continuous neglect, probably set a burning cross on my lawn followed by a good old fashion lynching......

OR ill just get a job at CP rail and get blown up rebuilding CP's dying infrastructure. JUST LIKE GRANDPA!!!

The demographics in Langley have changed immensely in the last 7 or so years. If you lived in High Point, your Indian neighbours would kindly ask that you cut your grass, while the Asian family on the opposite side would be too shy to say anything.

:lol

[fliptuner]

2021 model is rumored to be a 3.5L, TT, hybrid, with 450hp/500tq. We shall see.

[jackal]

I think the absolute most important thing to think about is to really sit down and figure out what you are going to use the truck for. lots of people want a full size truck just because and thats ok but if you're even considering a midsize vs a full size then you need to start by figuring that out first.

in late 2013 i went shopping for a new truck and i was loving the new tundras, but the lack of features that are so important on a truck, that will be used as a truck, turned me far away. couldn't even get a brake controller as an option. I ended up with a late model 2013 f150 3.5 ecoboost fully loaded and i have zero regrets. i tow up to 8k lbs. a few weeks ago i was actually thinking about all the options on my truck and truth be told, other then the electronic locking diffs and hill decent control, i use literally every other feature daily.

leather heated/cooled seats
nav
back up cam with the hitch zoom for easy trailer hookups
remote start
power folding mirrors
brake controller
auto climate control with zones
huge fuel tank allows for decent range even with bag fuel economy. (135L)

at the time some of this stuff wasn't even possible on the tundra

my ecoboost makes amazing power. i have no complaints. fuel economy sucks but i can pull my 8000lbs up the coquihalla without missing a beat. and to top it off it's incredibly luxurious and compfy as a daily around town.

[belka]

I’m currently looking for a truck sub-$10k for southern sask reasons. In this range there are options all over the place. When people say the tundras are bad on gas, what are we talking about, like 15L/100km city bad or worse?

Going to go look at this tundra: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/regina/2009-toyota-tundra-5-7/1436824500?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ios_social

And this for lulz: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/regina/2005-ram-1500-daytona/1434969510?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ios_social

Not looking to haul anything, just hate borrowing trucks for dump runs, household moves etc. Roads here are beyond terrible, there are third world countries that are smoother.

[jackal]

You can expect something like 20L/100 for the older generation of trucks with large v8’s. I had an 04 f150 with the 5.4 and saw 22L/100 city.

[underscore]

That's not too bad, driving a Chevy Avalanche on the highway in Alberta with the cruise on in pleasant weather I got 22L/100km. In colder weather with a 3/4 ton I got 24L/100km. Both times it was just me and two duffle bags.

[belka]

That is absolutely incredible, I didn’t realize trucks are that bad, I get upset when I average 11L/100km in the TL. Luckily I walk or bike to work and use the SO X1 for long trips, but shit. How do people afford the gas?

[jackal]

That is absolutely incredible, I didn’t realize trucks are that bad, I get upset when I average 11L/100km in the TL. Luckily I walk or bike to work and use the SO X1 for long trips, but shit. How do people afford the gas?

which is why i mentioned people need to really think about what they NEED in a truck

you either buy a full size truck because you don't care about the fuel mileage and you can afford it. or you genuinely NEED a full size truck.

i regularly haul 2k lbs through town and as mentioned above i tow sometimes up to 8k.

on my 3.5 ecoboost i get 19.5-20.5L/100 in the city. but thats with frequent heavy loads.

with my trailer fully loaded from burnaby to penticton over to coq i did 34L/100

obviously a diesel would be WAY better with the towing mileage but living with a 1 ton sucks and i only tow that much a few times a year.

[quasi]

You can expect something like 20L/100 for the older generation of trucks with large v8’s. I had an 04 f150 with the 5.4 and saw 22L/100 city.

I had an 04 and 08 F150 and was easily spending $1,200 a month in fuel back then. Good times, I did drive quite a bit though.

[EuterVanWasser]

Jackal is correct and that was a consideration when I bought the Titan XD diesel -- it's considered a "heavy half" or a 5/8ths ton. I didn't want to commit to a 1 ton truck in the City as I don't need it for work... I'm just a weekend warrior with a boat and a trailer.

Any way, because I have the Pro4X version I get worse mileage than guys without the 2nd differential -- I get 17L/100km in the city (Burnaby to Richmond and Burnaby to New West mostly). On the highway with no load, it's a joke, I get 11L/100km between Vancouver and Kelowna, and towing around 5,000lbs it pushes the mileage to around 18L/100km up and over the Coquihala.

For what its worth, as a full sized truck it's better on fuel than my Pathfinder was (20L/100km) in the City.

[blkgsr]

my 2017 5.7L ram get's mid 12's going up and back from whistler...was high 11's down to portland

and right now is mid 15/16's with a mix of city/highway....all city is like high 16's

[68style]

Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...

The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.

[originalhypa]

That's not too bad, driving a Chevy Avalanche on the highway in Alberta with the cruise on in pleasant weather I got 22L/100km. In colder weather with a 3/4 ton I got 24L/100km. Both times it was just me and two duffle bags.

Damn, that is rough. No wonder GM went to Active fuel management.
Regardless, it wouldn't have made a difference on highways like the Coq. I'm a regular on the S2S and have been able to get my usage down to about 14.5L/100km. There are a few spots that you have to put the foot down to maintain travel speed, but for the most part high 13's are possible in traffic. In the city, I'm happy to get it down to about 20L/100km. I tried to get it down to 18L/100km, but had to drive like an absolute pussy to do that.

On a side note, my economy on the way to Kamloops this past weekend was 20L/100km. On the way back it went up to 21L/100km because I had my foot in it. Heavy trucks need big motors to move them.

A last note about Tundra fuel economy, when I set my cruise to 105kmh, it went down to about 16L/100km. But the Coq limit is 120kmh, and 105kmh will get you fuking killed. Bump it to 115 cruising in the right lane, and it shoots back up to the 20's.

:heckno:


Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...

That may work in the city, but step outside of the lower mainland and you would be lynched for saying such things.

[originalhypa]

For shits and giggles, and also because I like math..... I did some calculations on my trip.

Using a price of $1.51/L, what did it cost me to travel 265km using the different L/km values listed above.

At 21L/100km, my cost was the highest at $84.03
@ 20L/100km, a bit lower at $80.03
@ 18L/100km, we're at $72.03
@15L/100km, we get down to $60.02 (edited)

[Jmac]

For shits and giggles, and also because I like math..... I did some calculations on my trip.

Using a price of $1.51/L, what did it cost me to travel 265km using the different L/km values listed above.

At 21L/100km, my cost was the highest at $84.03
@ 20L/100km, a bit lower at $80.03
@ 18L/100km, we're at $72.03
@15L/100km, we get down to $39.75

That is something to consider this summer. Get there safely, save yourself an extra $50, and enjoy the view.

:cool:
Might want to re-check your math on that last one

[originalhypa]

Might want to re-check your math on that last one

ah, snap.
I must have done that one at 9.7, probably based on what someone posted here for their mileage.

Duh @ me.
FailFish

Regardless of my gwailo math, the numbers don't lie. I'm saving $24 per trip, or $48 for the round trip to Kamloops and back. If I did it twice a week that would be significant. But once a month, it's not as big a savings as I would have originally thought. That said, I'm completely willing to pay a little more for the freedom to drive a vehicle I like.

[underscore]

^ multiply that across a years worth of travel and factor in the pricier insurance too.

Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...

The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.

From my understanding they use vans with a single row cab in the front. All these crew cab trucks with tiny beds can't haul crap all for cargo by comparison. They're also far taller than they need to be so the aerodynamics go to shit for no reason other than trying to look tough.

[originalhypa]

^ multiply that across a years worth of travel and factor in the pricier insurance too.


I'm not too worried about it.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/u2nPi3UXhWvO8/giphy.gif

But for someone who is, that is going to be a huge factor in their decision.

[EvoFire]

Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...

The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.

The big Sprinters and the new big Transits are typically what they would use in Europe. Underneath these vans are really a 1500-2500 level chassis so you don't give up any capability. They can also get quite tall with lower load floors, which means you can standup, carry more weather sensitive loads, etc.

[Hondaracer]

Construction is a completely different thing in Europe as well. Their methods and attitudes toward residential construction would never fly in N/A

[Jmac]

ah, snap.
I must have done that one at 9.7, probably based on what someone posted here for their mileage.

Duh @ me.
FailFish
I'm fairly certain you just did it at $1/L instead of $1.51/L.

1*2.65*15 = $39.75
1.51*2.65*15 = $60.02

[roastpuff]

my 2017 5.7L ram get's mid 12's going up and back from whistler...was high 11's down to portland

and right now is mid 15/16's with a mix of city/highway....all city is like high 16's

My 2015 Ram was similar... and then when I changed tires to the KO2s I used like 1L/100KM more than before because LT tires + the worse rolling resistance of the tread pattern.

[underscore]

^ my Cherokee got 2L/100km worse (15 to 17) going from KO's to Duratracs. It doesn't sound bad but that was $500/yr in fuel at the time. That's a lot when a set of tires is about a grand.

[originalhypa]

^
That's why I went with the KO2 on my Tundra. Granted, the 20" wheels don't help fuel mileage either.

[roastpuff]

^ my Cherokee got 2L/100km worse (15 to 17) going from KO's to Duratracs. It doesn't sound bad but that was $500/yr in fuel at the time. That's a lot when a set of tires is about a grand.

^
That's why I went with the KO2 on my Tundra. Granted, the 20" wheels don't help fuel mileage either.

Same - and the Duratracs were more money, and were not as good on pavement.

[blkgsr]

I have KO'2 as well. i did notice about a 1L increase as well

[blkgsr]

Geez... if they wanted to actually cut emissions all they'd have to do is cull truck purchases...

The thing I always wonder is "how do they do it in Europe?" because these vehicles do not exist in Europe and they still get all their construction and personal projects done... something to think about... we're just extremely wasteful/selfish here. I don't mean that in a bad way against anyone here, all North Americans are selfish with their personal space etc... so no surprise it's the same with the tools we use too.

absolutely everything is diesels

[AstulzerRZD]

Averaging ~19L/100km on an aluminum bodied F150 extended cab with the 5.0, 8' bed, and 6 speed. All city.

[originalhypa]

Averaging ~19L/100km on an aluminum bodied F150 extended cab with the 5.0, 8' bed, and 6 speed. All city.

That is similar to my Tundra.
20-21L/100km in the city. I don't have a light foot, and hate when people take forever to get up to speed. So those days when I hit every red light and have to stop/start ad nauseam are what get it up there.