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Manic!
07-28-2019, 07:29 PM
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/gilroy-california-shooting-intl-hnk/index.html

Multiple dead shooter(s) still at large.

320icar
07-28-2019, 07:55 PM
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/579bccd4197aea7c6b7a5e99/58ffe70fbe65942e8ef37bcc/5aa89a4253450ad3ccb07e47/1521662174693/DWBr_DZU8AExlLv.jpg?format=1500w

welfare
07-28-2019, 10:03 PM
Even California's not safe.
Go figure with the strictest gun laws in the country

Badhobz
07-28-2019, 10:29 PM
These shootings are so common now that they barely registers on my psyche.

Whatever.

vitaminG
07-28-2019, 11:27 PM
Why do you create a new thread every time there's a shooting?

68style
07-28-2019, 11:28 PM
Even California's not safe.
Go figure with the strictest gun laws in the country

Same arguments in every gun thread.

Obvious lack of gun deaths in countries with no guns... oh what’s that Switzerland has more guns per capital than the USA? Etc etc etc

It all comes down to societal maturity doesn’t it? People in the USA don’t have the mentality as a group to handle guns. Rash, angry, undereducated, poor social programs for mental health issues... and easy access to firearms. The saying goes you’re only as smart as the stupidest one in your group. There’s some real dummies with lots of guns in the USA. Insert people with severe mental health issues that are not receiving appropriate treatment wherever I’ve said dummies or stupid people at your leisure.

Saying Cali has strict laws doesn’t mean shit when there’s no checked borders with 47 other states that don’t have the same standards. Did not include Alaska or Hawaii as there’s no direct way to transport firearms from there to Cali.

Manic!
07-28-2019, 11:34 PM
Even California's not safe.
Go figure with the strictest gun laws in the country

Why don't mass shooters use RPG's or 50 cal machine guns?

welfare
07-29-2019, 01:37 AM
Same arguments in every gun thread.

Obvious lack of gun deaths in countries with no guns... oh what’s that Switzerland has more guns per capital than the USA? Etc etc etc

It all comes down to societal maturity doesn’t it? People in the USA don’t have the mentality as a group to handle guns. Rash, angry, undereducated, poor social programs for mental health issues... and easy access to firearms. The saying goes you’re only as smart as the stupidest one in your group. There’s some real dummies with lots of guns in the USA. Insert people with severe mental health issues that are not receiving appropriate treatment wherever I’ve said dummies or stupid people at your leisure.

Saying Cali has strict laws doesn’t mean shit when there’s no checked borders with 47 other states that don’t have the same standards. Did not include Alaska or Hawaii as there’s no direct way to transport firearms from there to Cali.

I wouldn't say it's a "societal" issue when most of the murders in the US occur in only 5% of the counties.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/most-murders-occurred-in-5-percent-of-countys-says/

Here's a mass shooting from yesterday. CNN was nowhere to be found
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/07/28/one-killed-11-injured-in-brownsville-mass-shooting-reversing-neighborhoods-gun-violence-decline/

I could show you 20 mass shootings that occurred last month within a one week span. Care to guess what they all had in common? And no, it's not that cnn didn't cover them.

welfare
07-29-2019, 01:47 AM
Why don't mass shooters use RPG's or 50 cal machine guns?

Why don't people in London use hand guns?
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-29/uk-knife-crime-epidemic-claiming-children-as-young-as-10/11305792

Manic!
07-29-2019, 02:50 AM
Why don't people in London use hand guns?
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-29/uk-knife-crime-epidemic-claiming-children-as-young-as-10/11305792

You tell me genius. The youngest victim at the garlic festival was 3. But never answer a question just change the subject when you don't have an answer and can't admit you are wrong.


Fun fact: Knife-related homicides took 285 lives in England and Wales in 2018

Nearly 40,000 People Died From Guns in U.S. Last Year,

Mr.Money
07-29-2019, 03:24 AM
sad how usa won't change still about firearms.


again another few weeks will pass and be forgotten about yet theres a long list of times this happened already.

68style
07-29-2019, 06:51 AM
I wouldn't say it's a "societal" issue when most of the murders in the US occur in only 5% of the counties.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/most-murders-occurred-in-5-percent-of-countys-says/

Here's a mass shooting from yesterday. CNN was nowhere to be found
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2019/07/28/one-killed-11-injured-in-brownsville-mass-shooting-reversing-neighborhoods-gun-violence-decline/

I could show you 20 mass shootings that occurred last month within a one week span. Care to guess what they all had in common? And no, it's not that cnn didn't cover them.

CNN actually has coverage of both... from the time it occurred with regular updates going forward.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/29/us/two-shootings-coast-to-coast/index.html

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/28/us/nyc-brownsville-brooklyn-shooting/index.html

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/28/us/nyc-brownsville-brooklyn-shooting/index.html

You’re just not realizing that CNN’s app and website has bias on how it presents headlines based on your location.

I’m not sure what your point is though? What you’re saying is evidence of how many mass shootings there are and a pretty fucked up society. That % of counties is misleading of course if a mass shooting happens in one place of a state then it’s only a small percentage of that overall state. The phenomena is spread all over the entirety of the USA is it not? Every state has had some form of mass shooting in it, the very nature of those incidents requires them to be limited to a small area of that state when they occur. I understand the correlation of crime areas accounting for the bulk of murders overall, but that isn’t the discussion topic here.

winson604
07-29-2019, 06:52 AM
These shootings are so common now that they barely registers on my psyche.

Whatever.

Sadly the truth for me as well. When I used to hear about a mass shooting I would be like wtf and go check out the news instantly. Now when I hear it I'm just like oh ok that's normal, moving on.

unit
07-29-2019, 07:47 AM
angsty white terrorists strike again

trollface
07-29-2019, 07:57 AM
sad how usa won't change still about firearms.


again another few weeks will pass and be forgotten about yet theres a long list of times this happened already.

It's in the Constitution. Anyone that tries to change it will be drawn and quartered. Political suicide.

freakshow
07-29-2019, 08:39 AM
sad how usa won't change still about firearms. What would you change to prevent this kind of shooting in the future?

Manic!
07-29-2019, 09:47 AM
It's in the Constitution. Anyone that tries to change it will be drawn and quartered. Political suicide.

It's an amendment.

underscore
07-29-2019, 09:56 AM
and easy access to firearms.

That's the key thing. Lots of countries have lots of guns, but require you to prove you're at least vaguely competent before giving you one.

Also the Swiss have a crapload of guns but very little access to ammo. Without that it's just a piece of pipe glued to a stick.

Manic!
07-29-2019, 10:01 AM
Like a coward, welfare changing the subject instead of defending his position. Also going by counties? How stupid do you think we are? What's next your going to tell us Ferrari is more reliable than Honda? Because a lot more Honda's go in for repair. Facts real facts.


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Least Populated US Counties
Rank County Population
1 Kalawao County, Hawaii 88
2 Loving County, Texas 134
3 King County, Texas 296
4 Kenedy County, Texas 417


List of the most populous counties in the United States

Rank County State Land
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1 Los Angeles California 10,509.87 4,057.88 9,818,605 10,105,518 344,902 3.51 Los Angeles
2 Cook Illinois 2,448.38 945.33 5,194,675 5,180,493 -16,588 -0.32 Chicago
3 Harris Texas 4,411.99 1,703.48 4,092,459 4,698,619 560,521 13.70 Houston
4 Maricopa Arizona 23,828.26 9,200.14 3,817,117 4,410,824 489,916 12.83 Phoenix
5 San Diego California 10,895.12 4,206.63 3,095,313 3,343,364 242,372 7.83 San Diego
6 Orange California 2,047.56 790.57 3,010,232 3,185,968 180,168 5.99 Santa Ana
7 Miami-Dade Florida 4,915.06 1,897.72 2,496,435 2,761,581 255,361 10.23 Miami
8 Dallas Texas 2,256.60 871.28 2,368,139 2,637,772 250,009 10.56 Dallas
9 Kings New York 183.41 70.82 2,504,700 2,582,830 144,071 5.75 Brooklyn, NYC
10 Riverside California 18,664.70 7,206.48 2,189,641 2,450,758 233,625 10.67 Riverside

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/U.S._counties_population.JPG

welfare
07-29-2019, 01:37 PM
angsty white terrorists strike again


Hate to break it to you, Skippy but mass shootings are far and away a black thing.
Even this liberal rag couldn't deny it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/americas-overlooked-gun-violence.html
Over all, though, nearly three-fourths of victims and suspected assailants whose race could be identified were black. Some experts suggest that helps explain why the drumbeat of dead and wounded does not inspire more outrage.

You tell me genius. The youngest victim at the garlic festival was 3. But never answer a question just change the subject when you don't have an answer and can't admit you are wrong.


Fun fact: Knife-related homicides took 285 lives in England and Wales in 2018

Nearly 40,000 People Died From Guns in U.S. Last Year,

Struck a nerve huh? I haven't even scratched the surface.
You make me laugh, manic.
On one hand, you idolize a culture that glamorizes guns and violence, and then on the other, you're the first to cry foul when something like this happens.
Irony isn't a strong enough word.
Delusional would be more fitting

welfare
07-29-2019, 01:44 PM
Sorry, maybe i should have just made a post mocking the condolences of those who've just had their lives shattered forever for teh lulz.
Seems to be the decent thing to do around here.

Great68
07-29-2019, 01:52 PM
They can continue to do nothing, I mean that's clearly working out great!

Manic!
07-29-2019, 02:17 PM
Hate to break it to you, Skippy but mass shootings are far and away a black thing.
Even this liberal rag couldn't deny it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/americas-overlooked-gun-violence.html




Struck a nerve huh? I haven't even scratched the surface.
You make me laugh, manic.
On one hand, you idolize a culture that glamorizes guns and violence, and then on the other, you're the first to cry foul when something like this happens.
Irony isn't a strong enough word.
Delusional would be more fitting

Keep dodging the question like a coward.

320icar
07-29-2019, 04:02 PM
Sorry, maybe i should have just made a post mocking the condolences of those who've just had their lives shattered forever for teh lulz.
Seems to be the decent thing to do around here.

Unfortunately I’m not sure what else to do. I will stay neutrally opinionated as I can, but we don’t live in nor have voting ability on what the US does.
Am I horribly misinformed and just don’t know, or has the US as a whole tried to fix problems and solve the pretty obvious issue of mass shootings/untargeted random killing.

Every country has tragedies and every country has people with mental issues. So what’s makes the US so unique in not solving any issues

68style
07-29-2019, 06:20 PM
Unfortunately I’m not sure what else to do. I will stay neutrally opinionated as I can, but we don’t live in nor have voting ability on what the US does.
Am I horribly misinformed and just don’t know, or has the US as a whole tried to fix problems and solve the pretty obvious issue of mass shootings/untargeted random killing.

Every country has tragedies and every country has people with mental issues. So what’s makes the US so unique in not solving any issues

I don’t even think the “thoughts and prayers” memes are directed at sympathizers in the general public, I take it as a backhanded slap to the face of politicians who tweet that and but still get cowed by their contributors and lobbyists instead of actually doing their jobs working on legislation that might curtail some of this. I see nothing wrong with it from that perspective.

westopher
07-29-2019, 06:41 PM
Sorry, maybe i should have just made a post mocking the condolences of those who've just had their lives shattered forever for teh lulz.
Seems to be the decent thing to do around here.
Taking "thoughts and prayers" as an appropriate condolence to victims of gun violence is the real mockery. The lack of action from people in power is the joke. But yeah bad guys don't obey laws, and people that want less guns just want people to make a law that makes guns illegal right? Isn't that the argument? It has nothing to do with wide availability, supply, and cost. Right?

Mr.Money
07-29-2019, 06:50 PM
What would you change to prevent this kind of shooting in the future?


have Big brother firearms...finger print ID checker on the weapons,wireless safety net of having sensors in automotive cars and invisible gates to deactivate firearms and allow police to know its in the area tracking them passing street lights if permission isn't given,year 3000!


dumb weapons get banned! WutFace

68style
07-29-2019, 07:42 PM
... aaaaaand there we go... dipshit bought his gun in Nevada where its much less strict to do so.

Yodamaster
07-29-2019, 10:07 PM
Why don't mass shooters use RPG's or 50 cal machine guns?

Because those aren't practical, the hardware is out there, police seized a goddamn air to air missile in Italy. You'd be amazed at how many pieces of military equipment get yoinked, Canada is no exception, believe me.

Manic!
07-29-2019, 10:16 PM
Because those aren't practical, the hardware is out there, police seized a goddamn air to air missile in Italy.

It was a non-working part of a missile from the war in Iraq. A fully automatic m-16 is practical. If it was not practical the soldiers in the US military would not carry them.

Yodamaster
07-29-2019, 10:38 PM
It was a non-working part of a missile from the war in Iraq. A fully automatic m-16 is practical. If it was not practical the soldiers in the US military would not carry them.

An M16 is very different from an M2 or an RPG, you are absolutely correct in assuming that they are practical, it's why converted AR15's are plentiful among gangs in Canada. That's not to say that heavier articles aren't around, you wouldn't believe me if I told you what I've seen pass through my last workplace.

Sometimes it's not even gangs, there have been a handful of times where RCMP officers have been in possession of some pretty serious hardware at home.

Manic!
07-29-2019, 10:43 PM
An M16 is very different from an M2 or an RPG, you are absolutely correct in assuming that they are practical, it's why converted AR15's are plentiful among gangs in Canada. That's not to say that heavier articles aren't around, you wouldn't believe me if I told you what I've seen pass through my last workplace.

Sometimes it's not even gangs, there have been a handful of times where RCMP officers have been in possession of some pretty serious hardware at home.

So why don't mass shooters use them. The Vegas shooter used a gun bump stock instead of a fully automatic gun. Also why didn't the Oklahoma city bombers use something like a plastic explosive instead of fertilizer?

Yodamaster
07-29-2019, 10:52 PM
So why don't mass shooters use them. The Vegas shooter used a gun bump stock instead of a fully automatic gun. Also why didn't the Oklahoma city bombers use something like a plastic explosive instead of fertilizer?

There is no good reason for why Stephen Paddock used bump fire stocks, because he could have used alternate methods to achieve the same effect with about the same amount of effort. It quite literally takes thirty minutes with a hacksaw, some files and sheet steel to crudely convert an AR15 to automatic fire. If you have access to a hobby mill, you can more permanently convert an AR15 to an actual M16 with available parts. exact DOD blueprints for M16 lower receivers are readily available on google.

Example: https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/firearmdeals.com_Dons_LL08122007__20001.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/56/3b/1c563bde46f6e7558014df9e355f1a38.jpg

(BTW, this is a registered machine gun in the US) https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/full-auto.02.jpg

Timothy used fertilizer because it was easy and available, it's really that simple.

Manic!
07-29-2019, 11:53 PM
There is no good reason for why Stephen Paddock used bump fire stocks, because he could have used alternate methods to achieve the same effect with about the same amount of effort. It quite literally takes thirty minutes with a hacksaw, some files and sheet steel to crudely convert an AR15 to automatic fire. If you have access to a hobby mill, you can more permanently convert an AR15 to an actual M16 with available parts. exact DOD blueprints for M16 lower receivers are readily available on google.

Example: https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/firearmdeals.com_Dons_LL08122007__20001.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/56/3b/1c563bde46f6e7558014df9e355f1a38.jpg

(BTW, this is a registered machine gun in the US) https://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/full-auto.02.jpg

Timothy used fertilizer because it was easy and available, it's really that simple.


And that's what I have been waiting for someone to say. If you make something harder to get less people will use it. If you make guns harder to get less people will use them.


I find it funny that the same people who don't think gun bans will work want abortion bans and support drug bans. They think banning everything else will work but somehow banning guns will never work.

The US banned the sale of new machine guns in 1986. I bet there where lots of pre 1986 machine guns out there but as time went on the number of machine guns decreased.

Nlkko
07-30-2019, 06:59 AM
Banning gun is extreme and unnecessary. Mandatory training is a must and it's a joke that's there's no regulation for it. You have to go through road test to drive a vehicle which is less lethal than shooting a gun, yet there's no training requirement for gun ownership.

Hondaracer
07-30-2019, 07:44 AM
There’s a multi day course, background check, and referral process for gun ownership. At least in Canada.

welfare
07-30-2019, 09:35 AM
Like a coward, welfare changing the subject instead of defending his position. Also going by counties? How stupid do you think we are? What's next your going to tell us Ferrari is more reliable than Honda? Because a lot more Honda's go in for repair. Facts real facts.


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Least Populated US Counties
Rank County Population
1 Kalawao County, Hawaii 88
2 Loving County, Texas 134
3 King County, Texas 296
4 Kenedy County, Texas 417


List of the most populous counties in the United States

Rank County State Land
area
(km2)[4] Land
area
(mi2)[5] April 1,
2010
census
July 1,
2018
official
estimate
Mid-2010
to
mid-2018
change
(absolute) Mid-2010
to
mid-2018
change
(%) County seat
1 Los Angeles California 10,509.87 4,057.88 9,818,605 10,105,518 344,902 3.51 Los Angeles
2 Cook Illinois 2,448.38 945.33 5,194,675 5,180,493 -16,588 -0.32 Chicago
3 Harris Texas 4,411.99 1,703.48 4,092,459 4,698,619 560,521 13.70 Houston
4 Maricopa Arizona 23,828.26 9,200.14 3,817,117 4,410,824 489,916 12.83 Phoenix
5 San Diego California 10,895.12 4,206.63 3,095,313 3,343,364 242,372 7.83 San Diego
6 Orange California 2,047.56 790.57 3,010,232 3,185,968 180,168 5.99 Santa Ana
7 Miami-Dade Florida 4,915.06 1,897.72 2,496,435 2,761,581 255,361 10.23 Miami
8 Dallas Texas 2,256.60 871.28 2,368,139 2,637,772 250,009 10.56 Dallas
9 Kings New York 183.41 70.82 2,504,700 2,582,830 144,071 5.75 Brooklyn, NYC
10 Riverside California 18,664.70 7,206.48 2,189,641 2,450,758 233,625 10.67 Riverside

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/U.S._counties_population.JPG

He uses counties because it's more localized than states. He could have used cities, but that wouldn't make a difference since there are huge cities and small ones as well. Going beyond that the data doesn't exist.
If you'd read the article and understood it you'd see that he wasn't trying to hide the fact that counties vary in size
Meanwhile, 5 percent of the counties, which made up nearly half the population, accounted for more than two-thirds of murders in the country, with the highest numbers concentrated in areas around major cities like Chicago and Baltimore.

And that's what I have been waiting for someone to say. If you make something harder to get less people will use it. If you make guns harder to get less people will use them.

Guns were banned at this event.
And the ak47 is banned in California.
He brought them into both by breaking the law

Manic!
07-30-2019, 09:50 AM
Banning gun is extreme and unnecessary. Mandatory training is a must and it's a joke that's there's no regulation for it. You have to go through road test to drive a vehicle which is less lethal than shooting a gun, yet there's no training requirement for gun ownership.

No one wants to ban all guns. That's just fear mongering by the NRA becase they need to keep making that money so wayne lapierre can pay the rent for his 20 something intern and go on a $26000 shopping spree for clothes.

No one needs this unless you are hunting Predator.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzZriyWX4Ac20Oy.jpg

MG1
07-30-2019, 10:44 AM
Thanking you just because I have this thing with chicks and guns.

Any pics of the rest of her? On second thought, maybe not. She can turn out to be IG’s second cousin thrice removed, gulolow

Hondaracer
07-30-2019, 12:24 PM
Nevermind

westopher
07-30-2019, 03:56 PM
Guns were banned at this event.
And the ak47 is banned in California.
He brought them into both by breaking the law
Maybe they should build a wall around california to keep the ak47s out?

Manic!
07-30-2019, 04:14 PM
Maybe they should build a wall around california to keep the ak47s out?

Funny part is they had a fence but the gut cut threw it and there was tons of security and police with guns.

westopher
08-03-2019, 11:18 AM
https://apple.news/AoXcJ24XxQzGwa3JbFF9A0g
Keep those prayers coming.

Manic!
08-03-2019, 11:47 AM
https://apple.news/AoXcJ24XxQzGwa3JbFF9A0g
Keep those prayers coming.

What? Not in Texas. I thought everyone in Texas carried a gun. Where was that good guy with a gun that everyone talks about?

https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws-state/texas-gun-laws/

Fun facts: . Open carry is legal provided the handgun is in a shoulder or belt holster.
1314620 have licenses to carry in Texas.

https://pics.me.me/heartofteous-comitxrebels-texas-tan-line-i-would-like-to-reiterate-14528711.png

320icar
08-03-2019, 12:06 PM
Speaking of Texas, mass shooting in El Paso in a mall / walmart

Manic!
08-03-2019, 01:04 PM
CNN is showing video of the Walmart parking lot with dead bodies on the ground. They try to blur the bodies but they do a shitty job and you can see all the blood.

Manic!
08-03-2019, 01:30 PM
https://photos.smugmug.com/FIGHT/i-cT6dmL7/0/aed0093e/XL/texas-XL.jpg

Poor shooter had to wear hearing protection because the damn democrats will not allow gun silencers.

Good think real Canadians are fighting for gun silencers.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-575

RRxtar
08-03-2019, 06:05 PM
Hey manic you know silencers are REQUIRED in many European countries for hunting and range shooting?

Manic!
08-03-2019, 06:51 PM
Hey manic you know silencers are REQUIRED in many European countries for hunting and range shooting?

And those countries don't let you legally walk into a mall with a gun on your waste.

Mr.Money
08-03-2019, 07:03 PM
that's scary as shit,looks like an ak 47.

Manic!
08-03-2019, 08:09 PM
that's scary as shit,looks like an ak 47.

It is an AK 47. Kid tested mother approved.

westopher
08-03-2019, 08:51 PM
that's scary as shit, looks like a HUMAN RIGHT
FTFY

fliptuner
08-03-2019, 10:20 PM
How does a guy that just killed 20 people with an assault rifle, get caught alive? :rukidding:

68style
08-04-2019, 12:12 AM
How does a guy that just killed 20 people with an assault rifle, get caught alive? :rukidding:

Cuz he’s white and didn’t shoot him self in the head

BIC_BAWS
08-04-2019, 01:16 AM
And.. another one: https://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/police-responding-active-shooting-oregon-district/dHOvgFCs726CylnDLdZQxM/

Suspect and 9 others dead, at least 16 wounded in Oregon District shooting



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Slifer
08-04-2019, 04:50 AM
LUL

Badhobz
08-04-2019, 05:11 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/24mxyg.jpg

Ludepower
08-04-2019, 07:48 AM
Keep the shootings coming. No one cares america.

RRxtar
08-04-2019, 07:59 AM
PEOPLE are disgusting

https://rollingout.com/2019/05/07/custody-battle-leads-to-dad-burning-his-daughter-alive/?fbclid=IwAR2jcE9n4HL_bQpqMC0Ugh5bJ4jIFlcvW2LRPV6j 8L2DoMhigEKhU9Ch4yQ

westopher
08-04-2019, 08:25 AM
Keep the shootings coming. No one cares america.
Pretty sure a lot of people fucking care.

Manic!
08-04-2019, 04:17 PM
the Dayton shooter was wearing body armour and one of the victims was his sister.

Badhobz
08-04-2019, 04:45 PM
PEOPLE are disgusting

https://rollingout.com/2019/05/07/custody-battle-leads-to-dad-burning-his-daughter-alive/?fbclid=IwAR2jcE9n4HL_bQpqMC0Ugh5bJ4jIFlcvW2LRPV6j 8L2DoMhigEKhU9Ch4yQ

What the fuck. God damnit somebody should burn this fucker and send him to hell.

nah
08-04-2019, 09:29 PM
What the fuck. God damnit somebody should burn this fucker and send him to hell.

The fucker suffered burns too. The article says people hope he dies, but they really shouldn't. Imagine the pain he's going through now and the next year. He'll also be forever disfigured and rotting in jail, I really hope he lives.

Bouncing Bettys
08-04-2019, 09:51 PM
"Matt Walsh@MattWalshBlog
So many sociopaths. People on the left who can hardly contain their glee that the El Paso shooter was a white nationalist. People on the right who can hardly contain their glee that the Dayton scumbag is a leftist. Sickening, all around. We are such a hollow, empty people."

GS8
08-05-2019, 07:25 PM
"Matt Walsh@MattWalshBlog
So many sociopaths. People on the left who can hardly contain their glee that the El Paso shooter was a white nationalist. People on the right who can hardly contain their glee that the Dayton scumbag is a leftist. Sickening, all around. We are such a hollow, empty people."

The overarching culture where one seeks knowledge and wisdom but is only met with consumption and nihilism.

Oh shit, brb, portrait filming two snails fighting on my balcony. Pls liek &nd suscribe thx

320icar
08-05-2019, 09:12 PM
And.. another one: https://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/police-responding-active-shooting-oregon-district/dHOvgFCs726CylnDLdZQxM/

Suspect and 9 others dead, at least 16 wounded in Oregon District shooting



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PEOPLE are disgusting

https://rollingout.com/2019/05/07/custody-battle-leads-to-dad-burning-his-daughter-alive/?fbclid=IwAR2jcE9n4HL_bQpqMC0Ugh5bJ4jIFlcvW2LRPV6j 8L2DoMhigEKhU9Ch4yQ

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/gilroy-california-shooting-intl-hnk/index.html

Multiple dead shooter(s) still at large.

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/9341613312/hE5511AE9/

CharlesInCharge
08-05-2019, 09:44 PM
Politicians are actors that are too ugly for Hollywood.
The El Paso killer was brainwashed with this theatre, made to cause division and distraction and continual life long servitude to the empire.

https://i.imgur.com/6BhjdtL.jpg


His Manifesto.

About Me

In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.

In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important. Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship and more to enact a political coup by importing and then legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the Democrats is all it would take for them to win nearly every presidential election. Although the Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Procorporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it. At least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.

Economic Reasons

In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. Some sources say that in under two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to the highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in itself is a source of civil unrest. The less dependents on a government welfare system, the better. The lower the unemployment rate, the better. Achieving ambitions social projects like universal healthcare and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed. Even though new migrants do the dirty work, their kids typically don’t. They want to live the American Dream which is why they get college degrees and fill higher-paying skilled positions. This is why corporations lobby for even more illegal immigration even after decades of it of happening. They need to keep replenishing the low-skilled labor pool. Even as migrant children flood skilled jobs, Corporations make this worse by lobbying for even more work visas to be issued for skilled foreign workers to come here. Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and unskilled jobs to keep wages down. So Automation is a good thing as it will eliminate the need for new migrants to fill unskilled jobs. Jobs that Americans can’t survive on anyway. Automation can and would replace millions of low-skilled jobs if immigrants were deported. This source of competition for skilled labor from immigrants and visa holders around the world has made a very difficult situation even worse for natives as they compete in the skilled job market. To compete, people have to get better credentials by spending more time in college. It used to be that a high school degree was worth something. Now a bachelor’s degree is what’s recommended to be competitive in the job market. The cost of college degrees has exploded as their value has plummeted. This has led to a generation of indebted, overqualified students filling menial, low paying and unfulfilling jobs. Of course these migrants and their children have contributed to the problem, but are not the sole cause of it. The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration because more people means a bigger market for their products. I just want to say that I love the people of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.

Gear

Main gun: AK47 (WASR 10) – I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about 100 shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this. 8m3 bullet: This bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62×39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol hollow point when shot out of an ak47 at the cost of penetration. Penetration is still reasonable, but not nearly as high as a normal ak47 bullet. The ak47 is definitely a bad choice without this bullet design, and may still be with it. Other gun(if I get one): Ar15 – Pretty much any variation of this gun doesn’t heat up nearly as fast as the AK47. The round of this gun isn’t designed to fragment, but instead tumbles inside a target causing lethal wounding. This gun is probably better, but I wanted to explore different options. The ar15 is probably the best gun for military applications but this isn’t a military application. This will be a test of which is more lethal, either it’s fragmentation or tumbling. I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no attack and no manifesto

Reaction

Statistically, millions of migrants have returned to their home countries to reunite with the family they lost contact with when they moved to America. They come here as economic immigrants, not for asylum reasons. This is an encouraging sign that the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will provide. This will remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc which will make up for the loss of millions of baby boomers. This will also make the elites that run corporations realize that it’s not in their interest to continue piss off Americans. Corporate America doesn’t need to be destroyed, but just shown that they are on the wrong side of history. That if they don’t bend, they will break.

Personal Reasons and Thoughts

My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist. The job of my dreams will likely be automated. Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs. They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup which will hasten the destruction of our country. The environment is getting worse by the year. If you take nothing else from this document, remember this: INACTION IS A CHOICE. I can no longer bear the shame of inaction knowing that our founding fathers have endowed me with the rights needed to save our country from the brink destruction. Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch their countries burn. America can only be destroyed from the inside-out. If our country falls, it will be the fault of traitors. This is why I see my actions as faultless. Because this isn’t an act of imperialism but an act of preservation. America is full of hypocrites who will blast my actions as the sole result of racism and hatred of other countries, despite the extensive evidence of all the problems these invaders cause and will cause. People who are hypocrites because they support imperialistic wars that have caused the loss of tens of thousands of American lives and untold numbers of civilian lives. The argument that mass murder is okay when it is state sanctioned is absurd. Our government has killed a whole lot more people for a whole lot less. Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow Americans. Even the Americans that seem hell-bent on destroying our country. Even if they are shameless race mixers, massive polluters, haters of our collective values, etc. One day they will see error of their ways. Either when American patriots fail to reform our country and it collapses or when we save it. But they will see the error of their ways. I promise y’all that. I am against race mixing because it destroys genetic diversity and creates identity problems. Also because it’s completely unnecessary and selfish. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics form interracial unions at much higher rates than average. Yet another reason to send them back. Cultural and racial diversity is largely temporary. Cultural diversity diminishes as stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake weaker and/or undesirable ones. Racial diversity will disappear as either race mixing or genocide will take place. But the idea of deporting or murdering all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been here at least as long as the whites, and have done as much to build our country. The best solution to this for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each race. This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting each race self-determination within their respective territory(s). My death is likely inevitable. If I’m not killed by the police, then I’ll probably be gunned down by one of the invaders. Capture in this case if far worse than dying during the shooting because I’ll get the death penalty anyway. Worse still is that I would live knowing that my family despises me. This is why I’m not going to surrender even if I run out of ammo. If I’m captured, it will be because I was subdued somehow. Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfill your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers. Do not throw away your life on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day. My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that. Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just the beginning of the fight for America and Europe. I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country from destruction.

The Garlic shooter was Iranian and Italian mix apparently... and was into Nazi ideology stuff I think. Any cliffs on him?

The Debate - U.S. Gun Violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxNyzMpgLO4

El Bastardo
08-07-2019, 09:59 PM
What? Not in Texas. I thought everyone in Texas carried a gun. Where was that good guy with a gun that everyone talks about?


Everybody wears the hat, but nobody actually wants to be a cowboy.

Conceal Carry laws came about as a result of a pretty horrific massacre at a diner (a chain similar to White Spot) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_shooting#Aftermath) where a "good guy with a gun" could have saved the day. Since then, the issue has been debated back and forth including some recent debates about carrying on college campuses decades after the University of Texas Clock Tower Shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting)

Added context; El Paso isn't a great city. It borders Juarez which needs no introduction. Although both cities have gotten safer in the last decade, they're both really dicey. If you're carrying in El Paso, some yee-haw cop might think you're up to some cartel shit which is not ideal. If you're buying some spinach at Walmart, you're more likely to leave the Colt at home.


Fun facts: . Open carry is legal provided the handgun is in a shoulder or belt holster.

Open carry is so incredibly rare. Texas has had open carry for a few years now but I've never seen it in person. I've been all over Texas and still haven't spotted it. The mindset is that people will look at you like a proper cunt if you do.

Think of openly carrying a gun as like wearing an Ahegao t-shirt in public. Yeah, its a choice you can make but its not the right one. Cover that shit up under your clothes.
You look like an asshole.


1314620 have licenses to carry in Texas.


In a state of almost 29 mil, thats a pretty modest percentage. I'm surprised its that low.

I'm one of them. I don't carry. I don't conceal. But I have the license.

Manic!
08-08-2019, 01:53 AM
Everybody wears the hat, but nobody actually wants to be a cowboy.

Conceal Carry laws came about as a result of a pretty horrific massacre at a diner (a chain similar to White Spot) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_shooting#Aftermath) where a "good guy with a gun" could have saved the day. Since then, the issue has been debated back and forth including some recent debates about carrying on college campuses decades after the University of Texas Clock Tower Shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting)

Added context; El Paso isn't a great city. It borders Juarez which needs no introduction. Although both cities have gotten safer in the last decade, they're both really dicey. If you're carrying in El Paso, some yee-haw cop might think you're up to some cartel shit which is not ideal. If you're buying some spinach at Walmart, you're more likely to leave the Colt at home.



Open carry is so incredibly rare. Texas has had open carry for a few years now but I've never seen it in person. I've been all over Texas and still haven't spotted it. The mindset is that people will look at you like a proper cunt if you do.

Think of openly carrying a gun as like wearing an Ahegao t-shirt in public. Yeah, its a choice you can make but its not the right one. Cover that shit up under your clothes.
You look like an asshole.



In a state of almost 29 mil, thats a pretty modest percentage. I'm surprised its that low.

I'm one of them. I don't carry. I don't conceal. But I have the license.

It took 30 seconds to kill the Dayton shooter. You can't get much faster than that. In 30 seconds he was ale to shoot over 34 people killing 9. In El paso there was a person who was active duty and had a gun. He couldn't do stit to stop the guy. In Vegas there where multiple people with guns and they could not do shit.

A good guy with a gun is a fairy tail told by the NRA.

quasi
08-08-2019, 06:36 AM
Everybody wears the hat, but nobody actually wants to be a cowboy.

Conceal Carry laws came about as a result of a pretty horrific massacre at a diner (a chain similar to White Spot) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_shooting#Aftermath) where a "good guy with a gun" could have saved the day. Since then, the issue has been debated back and forth including some recent debates about carrying on college campuses decades after the University of Texas Clock Tower Shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting)

Added context; El Paso isn't a great city. It borders Juarez which needs no introduction. Although both cities have gotten safer in the last decade, they're both really dicey. If you're carrying in El Paso, some yee-haw cop might think you're up to some cartel shit which is not ideal. If you're buying some spinach at Walmart, you're more likely to leave the Colt at home.



Open carry is so incredibly rare. Texas has had open carry for a few years now but I've never seen it in person. I've been all over Texas and still haven't spotted it. The mindset is that people will look at you like a proper cunt if you do.

Think of openly carrying a gun as like wearing an Ahegao t-shirt in public. Yeah, its a choice you can make but its not the right one. Cover that shit up under your clothes.
You look like an asshole.



In a state of almost 29 mil, thats a pretty modest percentage. I'm surprised its that low.

I'm one of them. I don't carry. I don't conceal. But I have the license.


I have a friend in Wyoming, he's a fire fighter his wife is a nurse and neither leave the house without a gun. Hell they even keep extra guns in their vehicles, I think most the time you're not going to see the weapons that are being carried they are pretty well concealed.

He tells me almost everyone where he lives carries.

winson604
08-08-2019, 06:51 AM
I have a friend in Wyoming, he's a fire fighter his wife is a nurse and neither leave the house without a gun. Hell they even keep extra guns in their vehicles, I think most the time you're not going to see the weapons that are being carried they are pretty well concealed.

He tells me almost everyone where he lives carries.

Even as a gun owner the idea that people are permitted to carry boggles my mind. I saw a video the other day of a women who has a licence to carry (forget which state) getting jumped inside a Walmart and whips out her gun and starts chasing and firing her gun inside. The idea that any random citizen could just pull out a gun because they're reacting poorly to a scenario be it they didn't like how you lane changed or otherwise is crazy.

I've only seen open carry once in Seattle oddly enough at the Science Centre or whatever it's called. Some random white American family and one of the sons who was maybe like 25 at best with a handgun in a holster on his belt with zero attempt at hiding it under his tshirt. You couldn't miss it but nobody even batted an eye like it was normal.

MarkyMark
08-08-2019, 08:34 AM
Yeah one of the hottest threads on the F150 forum I follow is what type of gun holster to put in their truck, so the redneck runs strong down there. Guys talking about the placement of it so they can rest their hand on it for a quick draw because someone is walking towards their window.

BIC_BAWS
08-08-2019, 08:47 AM
Yeah one of the hottest threads on the F150 forum I follow is what type of gun holster to put in their truck, so the redneck runs strong down there. Guys talking about the placement of it so they can rest their hand on it for a quick draw because someone is walking towards their window.Same with the 9th gen Civic fourms.

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320icar
08-08-2019, 09:07 AM
Same with all the Ford Focus forums.

Every other country in the world is like

https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Confused-Nick-Young.jpg

68style
08-08-2019, 09:19 AM
Nobody is reporting on something key the El Paso shooter said in his stupid manifesto:

"Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country."

So there you go, straight from the shooter's mouth it was easy access to guns that allowed him to consider this. Put some kind of block in place or make them harder to get, and losers like this guy give up and don't follow through on their plans. Fuck the NRA and their "They'll find one if they want to/where there's a will there's a way" rhetoric.

Manic!
08-08-2019, 10:27 AM
Good thing no one ever breaks into cars. Just imagine a crack head breaking into a car and stealing a gun.

The mother of the Dayton shooter and one of the victims had called the police weeks before but the cops just told her it legal for him to own a gun.

Fun fact scheer wants us style gun laws. https://web.archive.org/web/20170525150610/http://www.andrewscheer.com/common_sense_on_firearms look at the button on the bottom. You can't answer no.

Did anyone see the crowds at the El paso hospital when trump visited? The crowds where huge the most people at a hospital after a mass shooting ever.

winson604
08-08-2019, 11:29 AM
Here's the incident I was referring to.

Skip to 1:30 where she get's attacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOnnTA5f4Ls

El Bastardo
08-08-2019, 11:51 AM
The idea that any random citizen could just pull out a gun because they're reacting poorly to a scenario be it they didn't like how you lane changed or otherwise is crazy.

I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime. Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

Manic!
08-08-2019, 12:31 PM
I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime. Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

But every idiot in Canada is not allowed to own a gun. Next time you walk down a busy street look at all the people and image them having a gun.

winson604
08-08-2019, 01:28 PM
I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime. Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

What Manic! said is my point. Yes, it "could" happen here but to be honest if I got into any altercation with a random person in Vancouver the most i'd expect is maybe i'd get my ass kicked by their fist and maybe a baseball bat at best However, in Texas as an example I would actually have to assume and fear that no matter if it's the 21 year old nerd or a 90- year old grandma that I might get shot.

underscore
08-08-2019, 03:03 PM
I'm not defending this kind of behaviour but any gun owner (even in Canada) could do the same. And its just as illegal. Its called brandishing and that gets you jailtime.

They could, but they'd be illegally carrying it from the moment they left the house in Canada, so people aren't bringing them around in their glovebox/purse/whatever. Then if such a situation does arise it's not conveniently on hand to any dipshit who wants to wave it around like a moron.

Its not an instrument to intimidate when you feel upset.

And yet it seems to be used as such quite frequently in the US.

Hondaracer
08-08-2019, 03:45 PM
Albeit when you are caught with a completely illegal handgun, ie. Purchased illegally, no RPAL, no range membership, loaded, and obviously used for illicit means, the penalties are minuscule.

Manic!
08-08-2019, 08:48 PM
Man walks into Walmart with an ar and 100 rounds of ammo. Manager pulls fire alarm the guy gets apprehended by a former fire fighter. The guy will probably sue for a violation of his rights.

https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Heavy-police-presence-at-Walmart-Neighborhood-Market-in-south-Springfield-528602951.html

welfare
08-08-2019, 09:47 PM
A good guy with a gun is a fairy tail told by the NRA.

Good thing that firefighter had his gun SeemsGood

CharlesInCharge
08-08-2019, 10:31 PM
Guy came on PressTV news saying the Ohio killer killed 6 black people out of the 8 in total... and with shooting his sister, she was dating a black guy.

Manic!
08-09-2019, 10:57 AM
Good thing that firefighter had his gun SeemsGood

Why the other guy had ever right to carry a gun in Walmart. Under the law the fighter fighter fkd up. He is the one that should be in jail for stoping a guy from exercising his second amendment rights.

welfare
08-09-2019, 12:00 PM
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/state-law/50-state-summaries/open-carry-state-by-state/

No statutes in Missouri specifically prohibit the open carrying of firearms, and it specifically authorizes any person who has a valid concealed carry endorsement, and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.1.No person may exhibit any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner in the presence of one or more persons.2

Manic!
08-09-2019, 04:44 PM
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/state-law/50-state-summaries/open-carry-state-by-state/

Sorry I don't know the gun laws of every state. The fact that every state has vastly different gun laws is crazy. What gets you jail time in one state is perfectly fine in another.

welfare
08-09-2019, 09:41 PM
Sorry I don't know the gun laws of every state. The fact that every state has vastly different gun laws is crazy. What gets you jail time in one state is perfectly fine in another.

Since individual states were formed prior to unification and the forming of a country, the state retained much of its sovereignty.
We don't have drastically distinguishable laws from province to province because Canada was formed first as a country and then broken up into provinces/territories.

Personally i think it makes a lot of sense to allow states to determine their own laws, since variables like demographics and population density can have an effect on crime. And those vary widely from state to state.
What works for one state may be futile or too punitive for another.

Manic!
08-10-2019, 03:38 AM
Since individual states were formed prior to unification and the forming of a country, the state retained much of its sovereignty.
We don't have drastically distinguishable laws from province to province because Canada was formed first as a country and then broken up into provinces/territories.

Personally i think it makes a lot of sense to allow states to determine their own laws, since variables like demographics and population density can have an effect on crime. And those vary widely from state to state.
What works for one state may be futile or too punitive for another.

It makes no sense to have different laws in every state. In one state a speeding ticket would just be a fine in another it could be jail time for up to a year.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8AmRV6Ns--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/akrkh3h0skkysbqlirzp.jpg

https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-virginia-lessons-from-my-three-days-in-1613604053

welfare
08-10-2019, 06:08 AM
It makes no sense to have different laws in every state. In one state a speeding ticket would just be a fine in another it could be jail time for up to a year.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8AmRV6Ns--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/akrkh3h0skkysbqlirzp.jpg

https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-virginia-lessons-from-my-three-days-in-1613604053

Well it's unfortunate that he didn't heed the many warnings he'd received and decided to break their law anyways.

Like i said the states are independent of each other. That's how their country was created. You can think of traveling to another state as similar to traveling to another country.
You mind their laws and keep your nose clean and you'll likely be ok.

Manic!
08-10-2019, 04:59 PM
Well it's unfortunate that he didn't heed the many warnings he'd received and decided to break their law anyways.

Like i said the states are independent of each other. That's how their country was created. You can think of traveling to another state as similar to traveling to another country.
You mind their laws and keep your nose clean and you'll likely be ok.

Are you saying the US is like the EU?


Keeping your nose clean does not always work. Bird poop on your hood can test positive for cocaine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s7LJtznvVM

Here is Ed Bolian promoting a service theta helps you beat speeding tickets by getting you in touch with local lawyers that may be buddies with the judge or prosecutor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYY6ozn3CcU

Manic!
08-10-2019, 05:28 PM
Trump gives thumbs up to mass shootings. Both of the baby's parents where killed in El Paso and that's a great reason to smile.



https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190809080558-trump-el-paso-orphan-photo-screengrab-large-169.jpg

StylinRed
08-10-2019, 07:02 PM
A 20yr old guy killed someone at his home (a female details not revealed) then proceeded to a Mosque, outside of Oslo, was armed with at least one pistol, and two rifles, broke in, and began to shoot, injured a 75yr old man, before being overpowered by others praying inside the mosque

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49308016

Norway mosque shooting: Man opens fire on Al-Noor Islamic Centre
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A man has been arrested in Norway after a shooting inside a mosque left one person injured on Saturday.

Police say a gunman opened fire on the Al-Noor Islamic Centre, in the outskirts of the capital Oslo.

Later a woman was found dead at the house of the suspect, police said.

The suspect "is around 20 years old, a Norwegian citizen from the area," said assistant chief of police Rune Skjold, adding that the man was now suspected of murdering a relative.

"We consider this a suspicious death... The dead person is related to the man arrested earlier today," he said.

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Police say the man acted alone when he attacked the mosque.

The mosque's director told local media that the victim was a 75-year-old member of the congregation.

"One of our members has been shot by a white man with a helmet and uniform," Irfan Mushtaq told local newspaper Budstikka.

He later told local channel TV2 that the attacker had "carried two shotgun-like weapons and a pistol. He broke through a glass door and fired shots."

The gunman, who wore body armour, was overpowered by people at the mosque before police arrived at the scene, Mr Mushtaq added.

Police sources told public broadcaster NRK that several weapons were found inside the mosque, located in the town of Baerum, following the shooting.

The mosque had previously implemented extra security measures after a gunman killed 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, earlier this year, according to Reuters news agency.

Manic!
08-10-2019, 08:38 PM
Amazing they stopped a shooter without the need of a good guy with a gun.

welfare
08-10-2019, 10:19 PM
A 20yr old guy killed someone at his home (a female details not revealed) then proceeded to a Mosque, outside of Oslo, was armed with at least one pistol, and two rifles, broke in, and began to shoot, injured a 75yr old man, before being overpowered by others praying inside the mosque

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49308016

One person dead (possibly related to him) and one injured. Suspect apprehended. And that story makes headlines across major outlets.
This is the past 24 hours in Chicago, yet almost no media coverage
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-gun-violence-shootings-dead-wounded-533388211.html

Just another weekend

Manic!
08-10-2019, 10:24 PM
One person dead (possibly related to him) and one injured. Suspect apprehended. And that story makes headlines across major outlets.
This is the past 24 hours in Chicago, yet almost no media coverage
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-gun-violence-shootings-dead-wounded-533388211.html

Just another weekend


it's Oslo Norway not the US. Shooting are a dime a dozen in the US.

Are you heading to Spokane anytime soon?

welfare
08-10-2019, 11:07 PM
it's Oslo Norway not the US. Shooting are a dime a dozen in the US.


I see. So the media prefer to focus on anomalies rather than mainstream problems.
Almost like they have the ability to make a less significant issue seem extreme and a major issue seem negligible Kappa

Bouncing Bettys
08-10-2019, 11:42 PM
Steven Crowder isn't exactly my cup of tea (Mug Club reference), but he makes some decent points.
https://youtu.be/9yZsOczEEys

westopher
08-11-2019, 05:23 AM
I see. So the media prefer to focus on anomalies rather than mainstream problems.
Almost like they have the ability to make a less significant issue seem extreme and a major issue seem negligible Kappa
What do you take as a bigger threat to you, as to my knowledge, an average citizen.
Targeted violence and shootings, or mass shootings on random people in public places? I’m a lot more worried about my American friends being shot randomly at a car show or concert than some gang fight at 3am in downtown Chicago. Of course people are less interested in those incidents, as it’s less of a personal threat to an average American.

welfare
08-11-2019, 09:15 AM
What do you take as a bigger threat to you, as to my knowledge, an average citizen.
Targeted violence and shootings, or mass shootings on random people in public places? I’m a lot more worried about my American friends being shot randomly at a car show or concert than some gang fight at 3am in downtown Chicago. Of course people are less interested in those incidents, as it’s less of a personal threat to an average American.
I'd be more concerned with being involved in a fatal car accident,which is thousands of times more likely.

Tell you what though, if i were really that terrified of being shot randomly, I'd probably want to do the only thing in my immediate power and carry a gun on me at all times possible.
Maybe now it's more clear to you the damaging counter effect of media manipulation and hysteria

StylinRed
08-11-2019, 09:31 AM
well to be fair, buying bulletproof clothing and or staying home would be more immediate...and effective :D

mikemhg
08-11-2019, 11:27 AM
Why do conservatives always like to bring up Chicago anytime we have a mass shooting or want to discuss gun rights? It's such a lame and asinine argument, but is used time after time.

If you think gang violence in South Chicago, which by the way is a result of red-lining and the systemic economic subjugation of a community by the powers that be to create such an environment is anywhere the same as a targeted mass shooting by a white supremacist, then I don't understand how your mind truly works.

It's like trying to compare an apple to an orange, these are completely different fruits.

But yes we get it, Chicago has black people, and they're bad people! Let's talk about them instead. Such a boring and stupid counterpoint.

Ford_Fanatic
08-11-2019, 11:40 AM
I agree. Lumping mass shootings in with spree shootings just to inflate the casualty numbers is not doing anyone any favors.

westopher
08-11-2019, 11:52 AM
I'd be more concerned with being involved in a fatal car accident,which is thousands of times more likely.

Tell you what though, if i were really that terrified of being shot randomly, I'd probably want to do the only thing in my immediate power and carry a gun on me at all times possible.
Maybe now it's more clear to you the damaging counter effect of media manipulation and hysteria
Yes, we are all aware that your likelihood of dying in a mass shooting is also much lower than car accidents, cancer, etc.
If I were that terrified of being shot randomly, I'd probably want it to be more difficult for some sick fuck to buy an ak-47 than walking into a sporting goods store or pawn shop. I'm not dumb enough that I'm just going to buy a gun and think I'm gonna go start winning gun fights.

MarkyMark
08-11-2019, 12:08 PM
Can't ruin it for all the responsible gun owners who like to spray bullets into a paper target though!

welfare
08-11-2019, 11:33 PM
Why do conservatives always like to bring up Chicago anytime we have a mass shooting or want to discuss gun rights? It's such a lame and asinine argument, but is used time after time.

If you think gang violence in South Chicago, which by the way is a result of red-lining and the systemic economic subjugation of a community by the powers that be to create such an environment is anywhere the same as a targeted mass shooting by a white supremacist, then I don't understand how your mind truly works.

It's like trying to compare an apple to an orange, these are completely different fruits.

But yes we get it, Chicago has black people, and they're bad people! Let's talk about them instead. Such a boring and stupid counterpoint.

Don't like Chicago? How about Detroit? Memphis? New Orleans? Baltimore?
If you removed the ten cities with the highest percentage of black population, then removed the suicides committed by whites (70% of white gun deaths), the US would have a lower rate of gun deaths than Canada.

The US doesn't have a "gun" problem. They have a problem with their "urban" inner cities and suicides.

320icar
08-12-2019, 07:51 AM
Can't ruin it for all the responsible gun owners who like to spray bullets into a paper target though!

I hate it, but society regularly has to cater to the lowest common denominator. That’s why our highway speed limits are so god damn low.

Manic!
08-12-2019, 09:39 AM
Don't like Chicago? How about Detroit? Memphis? New Orleans? Baltimore?
If you removed the ten cities with the highest percentage of black population, then removed the suicides committed by whites (70% of white gun deaths), the US would have a lower rate of gun deaths than Canada.

The US doesn't have a "gun" problem. They have a problem with their "urban" inner cities and suicides.

So just rid of all the black and white people. problem solved.

shabusen
08-12-2019, 02:16 PM
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320icar
08-12-2019, 03:49 PM
.

Had to google it. Fucking distasteful. It’s in Texas too... From the Newsweek article

The Boyert Shooting Center also made news last year after another store, Dick's Sporting Goods announced it would no longer be selling assault-style rifles in the wake of the Parkland school shooting, which left 17 people dead.

On March 2, 2018, the Boyert Shooting Center changed the sign of its marquee outside its store in Katy to poke fun at the decision, reading: "We're not all Dicks. We still sell AR's."

GS8
08-12-2019, 10:09 PM
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Manic!
08-12-2019, 11:20 PM
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Posting your manifesto soon?

GS8
08-13-2019, 10:49 PM
Posting your manifesto soon?

My manifesto is pretty simple:

To bait you as often as possible as the reward surpasses the effort.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/AhFV18ojkGxwI/source.gif

StylinRed
08-13-2019, 11:39 PM
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57105601746fb97f5df30963/1562684214248-3KFTIQNM9VSQKA0AUGAM/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kAqnWHZ6cHkJIgBO9zjULLYUqsxRUq qbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIII bLZhVYy7Mythp_T-mtop-vrsUOmeInPi9iDjx9w8K4ZfjXt2dvVJHVl0DjtrLmiWhnQDKxU SJjEO1Qq6KOSvTINf1gY2CjLISwBs8eEdxAxTptZAUg/Chilliwack+Garlic+Festival+2019.png

I didn't know about this happening, or that we even have garlic grown locally, so thx

Mr.Money
08-14-2019, 12:15 AM
https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2019/08/12/two-chp-officers-injured-exchange-gunfire-suspect/1994016001/


Another Criminal with a Automatic rifle who killed a highway patrol officer after having his Truck towed...its still bat shit crazy in america.

Manic!
08-14-2019, 02:42 PM
6 cops shot in Philadelphia. Shooter in a house has been shooting for over 90 minutes. All those good guys with guns shot. Whats the excuse now?

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/philadelphia-shooting-08-14-19/index.html

68style
08-14-2019, 03:06 PM
I like how as part of the report, it says Trump is on summer vacation this week.

And he was golfing during the last shootings.

When does this fuck ever work?

welfare
08-14-2019, 08:05 PM
Cops getting shot at in the hood. No surprises there
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iBl0snAEPWc

Manic!
08-14-2019, 09:24 PM
Cops getting shot at in the hood. No surprises there
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iBl0snAEPWc

I guess they need more guns in the hood.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/John-R.-Lott-More-Guns-Less-Crime.jpg/220px-John-R.-Lott-More-Guns-Less-Crime.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QdoXYL1.png

welfare
08-14-2019, 09:42 PM
I guess they need more guns in the hood.


More guns less cops :thumbs:

CharlesInCharge
08-14-2019, 11:20 PM
Oslo shooter... what a nutcase this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33P7zr_z_mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgZr0PicfI

Manic!
08-14-2019, 11:35 PM
Oslo shooter... what a nutcase this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33P7zr_z_mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgZr0PicfI

Welfare: Savage Muslims beat up young white male.

Mr.Money
08-15-2019, 03:28 AM
Cops getting shot at in the hood. No surprises there



holy shit that reaction time of the police officer is amazing on the third party guy.


he was about to point blank ambush the first police officer till his back up officer was trailing right behind him and reacted instantly seeing him raise his hands up,that's some muscle memory right there...why else would someone raise there only arm up at you? :heckno:

welfare
08-15-2019, 04:10 AM
Hand up don't shoot!

welfare
08-15-2019, 05:31 AM
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/08/14/crowd-taunts-philadelphia-police-officers-laugh-at-them-in-midst-of-gunfire-during-standoff-in-nicetown-tioga/

StylinRed
08-15-2019, 07:13 AM
the video of the officer getting shot at was scary af, though the commentator was annoying af

shabusen
08-15-2019, 10:05 AM
Oslo shooter... what a nutcase this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgZr0PicfI.

StylinRed
08-30-2019, 09:44 PM
10 shot, 5 critical, highschool football game in Mobile Alabama

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/31/us/mobile-ladd-peebles-stadium-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

2 arrested

welfare
08-30-2019, 09:52 PM
10 shot, 5 critical, highschool football game in Mobile Alabama

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/31/us/mobile-ladd-peebles-stadium-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

2 arrested

Mobile alabama? Yea I'm gonna take a stab and say it's probably not a 'white nationalist'

Hear stories every other week from over there.

StylinRed
08-30-2019, 11:03 PM
^^^ article makes it sound like it was a fight between two groups, and they started shooting

But yeah I recall mobile Alabama being mentioned a lot over the years

Manic!
08-31-2019, 02:45 PM
Active shooter Midland and Odessa, Texas. 20 injured 2 dead. one shooter killed one still not found.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huhszurctps

StylinRed
08-31-2019, 02:54 PM
Labour day weekend crazies come out

I know there's a security concern at the Zoo in Seattle, friend works there, and they tried apprehending a suspicious person who ended up getting away, the workers nerves are on edge this weekend

Manic!
08-31-2019, 03:03 PM
Labour day weekend crazies come out

I know there's a security concern at the Zoo in Seattle, friend works there, and they tried apprehending a suspicious person who ended up getting away, the workers nerves are on edge this weekend

Welcome to America. I read a story about a guy who was at a convention center and reached into his bag to grab his laptop and people started freaking out because they thought he was going for a gun.


3 cops shot at least 5 dead. The dead suspect is a white male.

Manic!
08-31-2019, 03:25 PM
Video of them shooting the suspect. He was in a stolen USPS van.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oPn4LS16Mc&feature=youtu.be