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PeanutButter
08-23-2019, 07:08 PM
I don't think this lady understands the gravity of the situation she put herself in. When I saw the headline, I was prepared for a click baity title and little substance in the content.

Contrary to what I thought the video was going to be, it wasn't very tasteful at all.

She is going to be seriously judged by everyone that know's her. This is pretty black and white when it comes to racial slurs.

CTV article with video;
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/caught-on-camera-racist-rant-in-richmond-parking-lot-1.4563379

unsensored video
https://www.facebook.com/1334419735/posts/10220621995603208/

Badhobz
08-23-2019, 07:21 PM
Lawl, I emailed CTV and they bleeped out the racist part now too.

Thanks for writing in and sharing your concern.
The video has been taken down and another one will be uploaded where the racial slur will be bleeped out.

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On your video, you censored her face, you censored some swears, but you allowed her to say the racial slur without any sort of censorship!??!? the hell is wrong with you guys.

Bouncing Bettys
08-23-2019, 07:34 PM
Not sure what is more offensive: her words, her and the neighbouring park jobs, or the fact that the police need to be involved in a heat of the moment non-violent exchange (hate speech authoritarian bullshit).

shiesty
08-23-2019, 07:40 PM
Crosses the damn line and says asians cant drive smh

Jmac
08-23-2019, 07:43 PM
Like how many more times did she hit the car beside her with her door before the recording took place? :fulloffuck:

She does it at least 3 times in the 15-second video (maybe a 4th; looks like it connects but I didn't hear a sound).

How are you going to tell someone that they can't drive and make racial slurs while you're pulling that shit?

MG1
08-23-2019, 07:55 PM
She crossed the white line...............

bobbinka
08-23-2019, 08:07 PM
She crossed the white line...............

https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/racist1.gif

68style
08-23-2019, 08:11 PM
She's obviously got mental problems, nobody talks like that especially when they are the one that actually did the crashing?

SkinnyPupp
08-23-2019, 08:16 PM
White person lives on the street, addicted to drugs

mental problems

White person shoots up a school

mental problems

White person harasses random people online

mental problems

White person acts like a racist piece of shit

mental problems

obviously!

twitchyzero
08-23-2019, 08:30 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/40994fceb281f80c403a4ae2246b1bf9/tenor.gif?itemid=9121358

StylinRed
08-23-2019, 09:24 PM
Female driver, stereotype still working

JSALES
08-23-2019, 10:18 PM
Lol her Facebook page is already going around

pinn3r
08-23-2019, 10:42 PM
She's done for. This clip blew up incredibly fast, over multiple social media platforms.

Consider your life over, Karen.

Gh0stRider
08-23-2019, 11:04 PM
She's done for. This clip blew up incredibly fast, over multiple social media platforms.

Consider your life over, Karen.

You mean Carla

68style
08-23-2019, 11:13 PM
White person lives on the street, addicted to drugs

mental problems

White person shoots up a school

mental problems

White person harasses random people online

mental problems

White person acts like a racist piece of shit

mental problems

obviously!

I would have said the same thing for anyone regardless of the colour of their skin if they crashed into someone's car and started blowing raspberries and blaming them for the accident? That type of denial and inability to take responsibility for a situation requires some cognitive issues to be present.

Why are you such a judgemental ass sometimes? You're a decent guy most of the time and then out of nowhere you turn on people for no reason.

ilovebacon
08-23-2019, 11:21 PM
I can't believe that this has made it to Revscene

BIC_BAWS
08-24-2019, 12:04 AM
Why are you such a judgemental ass sometimes? You're a decent guy most of the time and then out of nowhere you turn on people for no reason.


Not to derail, but Skinnypup has a point. Colored person shoots up a school? Terrorist. White person shoots up a school? Mental problems.

SkinnyPupp
08-24-2019, 12:25 AM
I would have said the same thing for anyone regardless of the colour of their skin if they crashed into someone's car and started blowing raspberries and blaming them for the accident? That type of denial and inability to take responsibility for a situation requires some cognitive issues to be present.

Why are you such a judgemental ass sometimes? You're a decent guy most of the time and then out of nowhere you turn on people for no reason.
I didn't mean to target you, but this comes up all the time. You just happened to be the one to do it this time. Putting a disclaimer in the OP would have decreased the effectiveness of the message. PLEASE believe me when I say I'm not targeting you with that post. Whether you would have said the same if it was a chinese person being racist to a white person, I have no idea, but this situation comes up so much I had to say something. And based on the response, many people see it the same way I do.

And BTW I doubt she's crazy, just really fucking stupid. People who are stupid, and know that they're wrong, do shit like that. Take it from someone who grew up in a household like that.

welfare
08-24-2019, 04:44 AM
Not to derail, but Skinnypup has a point. Colored person shoots up a school? Terrorist. White person shoots up a school? Mental problems.

((((white nationalism))))

spoon.ek9
08-24-2019, 06:37 AM
On this bitch's facebook, she has a photo with the hashtag TogetherAgainstAntisemitism.

FailFish

PeanutButter
08-24-2019, 07:27 AM
Lawl, I emailed CTV and they bleeped out the racist part now too.

Thanks for writing in and sharing your concern.
The video has been taken down and another one will be uploaded where the racial slur will be bleeped out.

Warmly,
Angela

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On your video, you censored her face, you censored some swears, but you allowed her to say the racial slur without any sort of censorship!??!? the hell is wrong with you guys.

Why email them? You're sensoring her racism.

PeanutButter
08-24-2019, 07:29 AM
I can't believe that this has made it to Revscene

Is this sarcasm?

Revscene is at the forefront of the Internet, duhhhh =s

MarkyMark
08-24-2019, 07:55 AM
News flash some people are still racist. Now on behalf of internet logic let's all bombard her with death threats to show how were better people than her.

MG1
08-24-2019, 07:57 AM
Is this sarcasm?

Revscene is at the forefront of the Internet, duhhhh =s

I think Trump has the best sense of sarcasm.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/458648-trump-on-his-chosen-one-remark-it-was-sarcasm%3famp

tiger_handheld
08-24-2019, 08:39 AM
whats her facebook? someone post the link.

whitev70r
08-24-2019, 08:41 AM
^ you don't want to go there, it's getting really ugly and vile.

Like MarkyMark said about her FB page .... let's throw sh*t at the person who first threw sh*t and see if somehow, magically, the world will get better.

Reminded about the movie Crash ... we should all go back and watch it. The racist is lurking within all of us. And there is some good lurking in all racists out there, hopefuly, including me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=durNwe9pL0E

SkinnyPupp
08-24-2019, 08:44 AM
whats her facebook? someone post the link.
Do not use RS to dox people

Manic!
08-24-2019, 08:47 AM
lwhats her facebook? someone post the link.

https://www.revscene.net/forums/716407-i-dont-know-how-title-but-people-needs-see.html

BIC_BAWS
08-24-2019, 09:29 AM
whats her facebook? someone post the link.Her IG and Facebook have been posted across the internet. Let's not recreate the Cain situation which originated from doxxing.

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

StylinRed
08-24-2019, 09:45 AM
Her type are the ones that just say "fuck it" and go all in, we saw that when she was confronted for her shitty parking, so I imagine, she'd do the same to those who are piling on her social media

kkttsang
08-24-2019, 10:02 AM
She should get 1000hrs of community service working at TNT.

CharlesInCharge
08-24-2019, 10:02 AM
.

da-suu
08-24-2019, 10:47 AM
lol her grand kids are gunna have a tough time in school

GS8
08-24-2019, 11:00 AM
She could've said 'China Girl', then break out in song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YC3sTbAPcU

punkwax
08-24-2019, 11:08 AM
She should get 1000hrs of community service working at TNT.

:lawl: !!

Harvey Specter
08-24-2019, 11:10 AM
The husband seems like a nut as well...

https://www.richmond.ca/__shared/assets/_23_Delegation_KenWaldman_CNCL01141952522.pdf


I am on vacation in Toronto. When i return i will call you. First your numbers for Richmond ate skewed. With very larfe number of people coming to Richmond over the past years i It seems IMHO that probably at least 50% smoke. I live in Alexandra Court and younger Asians, both mail and female stand either on the sidewalk; that is significantly within the 9 meter limit. Then they either simply flick the hot but on the dtry grass into the bushes and the number of butts on the sidewalk and road curbs is ridiculous. To date I have not seen one bylaw officer responsible for 'tagging' smokers and their filthy habit. In fact the bylaw officer i spoke with who advised i send an email was from thevtransportatin division. Second, i was volunteering at the Maritime Festival a few weeks ago when i was speaking to Harold Steves a very long time serving councillor in Richmond whomindicated they have raised enforcement issues but there are so few officers it is a waste of time. Finally for now the hors to contact the bykaw enforcement is only doringbthevday. Look at hours outside tese times and the public will never get anything done. Your responses are not very appropriate Richmond council is shirking its responsibilities. An unenforced bylaw isvuseless as most Richmond bylaws are unenforced. I would like the mayor and each councillor to respond. Ken Waldman A 44 year resident of arichmond and very concerned. Please copy this response to the Mayor and each Councillo

6thGear.
08-24-2019, 11:22 AM
Asiansneverdie has posted this on their IG as well. lol

StylinRed
08-24-2019, 11:25 AM
Some really vile remarks on her FB, her whole family is getting dragged into it, from ppl who aren't even local

Sw0op
08-24-2019, 11:32 AM
wonder how magee school's gonna be when they open up their inbox on Monday

DoughBoy
08-24-2019, 11:47 AM
Some really vile remarks on her FB, her whole family is getting dragged into it, from ppl who aren't even local

Haha

lowside67
08-24-2019, 11:49 AM
She could've said 'China Girl', then break out in song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YC3sTbAPcU
In general, I don't think it's fair to judge things that happened 35+ years ago as if they had been today, as cultural and social norms shift over time and people don't have crystal balls. With that said, this video is a pretty crazy example of how the standard has moved - the entire vocabulary and style of the dialogue in this song just wouldn't be kosher in 2019, let alone the cringe-worthy slanty eye moment in the video...

-Mark

spoon.ek9
08-24-2019, 12:15 PM
Can you imagine any musicians singing "chickity china the chinese chicken" today? lol

Imagine the amount of negative press they would receive now compared to then. I wonder how many here remember that song.

jing
08-24-2019, 12:22 PM
Still waiting for the trap remix

Great68
08-24-2019, 12:35 PM
Hahaha Broadmoor, my old stomping grounds.

Not exactly a whitewashed neighborhood, so kinda surprising.

MG1
08-24-2019, 01:11 PM
Can you imagine any musicians singing "chickity china the chinese chicken" today? lol

Imagine the amount of negative press they would receive now compared to then. I wonder how many here remember that song.

It’s Doug and the Slugs, they can get away with anything. Damn, they were good. Never saw them live, but wish I had.

Wait! Was it Doug and the Slugs? Lol.

punkwax
08-24-2019, 01:17 PM
^ pretty sure it was Barenaked Ladies

spoon.ek9
08-24-2019, 01:18 PM
It’s Doug and the Slugs, they can get away with anything. Damn, they were good. Never saw them live, but wish I had.

i was thinking barenaked ladies actually :lol

MG1
08-24-2019, 01:24 PM
I stand corrected. Was kind oaf thinking Chinatown Connection. No Kurosawa in those lyrics.

lgman
08-24-2019, 01:24 PM
Just the irony of being opposed to Anti-Semitism but ok spewing racist garbage is more funny than fiction.

Badhobz
08-24-2019, 02:24 PM
This woman is fucked in the head. Who blows raspberries at people? what are you 5 years old? her entire mannerism was that of a child.

Great68
08-24-2019, 02:35 PM
I stand corrected. Was kind oaf thinking Chinatown Connection. No Kurosawa in those lyrics.

Chinatown Calculation
Chop Suey, Chop Chop Suey
Chickeny Chow Mein, Chchchickeny Chow Mein!

welfare
08-24-2019, 05:15 PM
Can you imagine any musicians singing "chickity china the chinese chicken" today? lol

Imagine the amount of negative press they would receive now compared to then. I wonder how many here remember that song.

Wait what?
This is racist?

shawnly1000
08-24-2019, 05:20 PM
CBC News spoke with a woman by phone who identified herself as Carla Waldman and said she encountered a woman in the parking lot after grocery shopping.

She confirmed her car was touching the other woman's licence plate, but said she does not regret the racist language she used in the video.

"I do not regret anything I said to her because she was a very mean person," Waldman said.

"I don't care what they're calling me. I am not a racist person."

RCMP are asking the public to refrain from commenting about the incident on social media to protect the integrity of the investigation.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/police-investigating-racist-rant-richmond-parking-lot-1.5258802

Jmac
08-24-2019, 05:31 PM
Did she park over the line when there was no vehicle in front of her (or a different vehicle parked well behind the line) or did she hit the vehicle in front of her and that’s what started this whole altercation?

I’m inclined to believe the latter based on her disregard for the vehicle beside her, her behaviour caught on camera, and her comments above.

If the vehicle in front of her drove into her car despite being a little over the line, that’s pretty shitty, too.

StylinRed
08-24-2019, 06:27 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/police-investigating-racist-rant-richmond-parking-lot-1.5258802

Called it, she went all in, no surprise

BIC_BAWS
08-24-2019, 07:05 PM
She went #noregrets.


In the link posted in Post #1 here, is that OP? Cause saying you work for RCMP used in a threatening way could add other implications. Depending on how she said it, couldn't she be charged for impersonating a law enforcement officer?

twitchyzero
08-24-2019, 07:49 PM
for sure gonna result in her house/car trashed now that she's doubling down

#justemailedherdean

spoon.ek9
08-24-2019, 08:28 PM
Wait what?
This is racist?

No, actually imo I don't find it racist. But in today's ultra sensitive times people would find it offensive. That was my point.

EmperorIS
08-24-2019, 08:31 PM
Good thing she went all in, now we can have some fun.

welfare
08-24-2019, 08:58 PM
No, actually imo I don't find it racist. But in today's ultra sensitive times people would find it offensive. That was my point.

I don't think there's a single offensive word in that phrase. Nor was it even remotely meant to be offensive.

danned
08-24-2019, 09:39 PM
ask her to do this at chinatown
lot of opportunities for her

welfare
08-24-2019, 10:16 PM
No, actually imo I don't find it racist. But in today's ultra sensitive times people would find it offensive. That was my point.

This current culture is just so pathetically weak.
Used to be someone hurled a racial slur at you, you hurled one back. You stood up for yourself. Went on with your day chin up.
Not pull your phone out at the first sign of confrontation, play victim while thousands of anonymous "hero's" try to tear down a life for committing the capital crime of making offensive remarks.

I just find the whole "suppress anything remotely offensive" mentality to be completely unhealthy.

fliptuner
08-24-2019, 10:28 PM
I was surprised this actually made the news. People are so easily rattled these days.

Nice fucking parking
Go back to your country, chink
I'm the chink? Go find a handicapped stall you retarded cunt
Ching Chong Ling Long
Holy shit. You really are retarded. STFU before I slap you with my wallet

*Take pics, call in hit and run, call ICBC

... easy

sexyaccord
08-24-2019, 10:35 PM
i hear that shes a teacher

spoon.ek9
08-24-2019, 11:07 PM
This current culture is just so pathetically weak.
Used to be someone hurled a racial slur at you, you hurled one back. You stood up for yourself. Went on with your day chin up.
Not pull your phone out at the first sign of confrontation, play victim while thousands of anonymous "hero's" try to tear down a life for committing the capital crime of making offensive remarks.

I just find the whole "suppress anything remotely offensive" mentality to be completely unhealthy.

this is exactly what I'm getting at. There are things these days that aren't even remotely offensive but are labelled as such.

GS8
08-24-2019, 11:23 PM
This current culture is just so pathetically weak.
Used to be someone hurled a racial slur at you, you hurled one back. You stood up for yourself. Went on with your day chin up.
Not pull your phone out at the first sign of confrontation, play victim while thousands of anonymous "hero's" try to tear down a life for committing the capital crime of making offensive remarks.

I just find the whole "suppress anything remotely offensive" mentality to be completely unhealthy.

Their heads would explode if they watched a 70s sitcom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNKdAsbMoo

SkinnyPupp
08-24-2019, 11:29 PM
Used to be someone hurled a racial slur at you, you hurled one back. You stood up for yourself. Went on with your day chin up.

You're speaking from experience as a minority?

I agree that internet outrage culture is fucked up, but come on. Racism was never innocuous.

iwantaskyline
08-25-2019, 12:05 AM
It's because of the convenience of a smart phone, you can record anything with very little effort.

Let's be honest here, if someone hurled racist shit at you and all it took to ruin their life was for you to pull out your smartphone record it and then post it on reddit/facebook -- you'd do it 9/10 times.

welfare
08-25-2019, 12:23 AM
You're speaking from experience as a minority?

I agree that internet outrage culture is fucked up, but come on. Racism was never innocuous.

Chinese is certainly not the minority in Richmond.
And when i grew up in high school, in Vancouver, white was definitely less than half.
And it's not as if the same things didn't happen between white people either. Serbians, Croatians, Hungarians, Italians, Irish, etc..
A lot of these people did not get along well at all.

TBH, in a country with this many ethnicities, I'm surprised (pleasantly) that it isn't a rampant thing.

ScizzMoney
08-25-2019, 12:26 AM
In the article she says she's not a racist person. So we can just close the thread now and move on. It's all just been a big misunderstanding.

Manic!
08-25-2019, 12:28 AM
Their heads would explode if they watched a 70s sitcom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNKdAsbMoo

Reruns are still being aired and heads are not exploding because it was shot in the 70's and people are not stupid.

welfare
08-25-2019, 01:01 AM
Let's be honest here, if someone hurled racist shit at you and all it took to ruin their life was for you to pull out your smartphone record it and then post it on reddit/facebook -- you'd do it 9/10 times.

True story:
Couple weeks ago we had a customer (i won't mention his ethnicity) who dropped his car off for a concern. I think it may have been under warranty. Anyways, we were extremely busy that day and were unable to get to it promptly.
afternoon rolls around, customer comes in and immediately plays the race card. Says "you didn't look at my vehicle because I'm (blank)! I'm going to go to the news and tell them you're a racist!"
The advisor was extremely (and rightfully) upset. He didn't hit record on his phone. Instead he got up and told him to take his car and get the fuck out.
The customers wife, very nice lady actually, apologized for her husband and pleaded for the advisor to have someone look at the car when we could. Which we did.

You don't have to be vindictive to get your point across.

SkinnyPupp
08-25-2019, 01:14 AM
To be a white person in Canada.. what a perilous life BibleThump

Manic!
08-25-2019, 01:53 AM
True story:
Couple weeks ago we had a customer (i won't mention his ethnicity) who dropped his car off for a concern. I think it may have been under warranty. Anyways, we were extremely busy that day and were unable to get to it promptly.
afternoon rolls around, customer comes in and immediately plays the race card. Says "you didn't look at my vehicle because I'm (blank)! I'm going to go to the news and tell them you're a racist!"
The advisor was extremely (and rightfully) upset. He didn't hit record on his phone. Instead he got up and told him to take his car and get the fuck out.
The customers wife, very nice lady actually, apologized for her husband and pleaded for the advisor to have someone look at the car when we could. Which we did.

You don't have to be vindictive to get your point across.

Why the fck would you take in his car if you did not have the time to look at it? FailFish

trollface
08-25-2019, 06:04 AM
This current culture is just so pathetically weak.
Used to be someone hurled a racial slur at you, you hurled one back. You stood up for yourself. Went on with your day chin up.
Not pull your phone out at the first sign of confrontation, play victim while thousands of anonymous "hero's" try to tear down a life for committing the capital crime of making offensive remarks.

I just find the whole "suppress anything remotely offensive" mentality to be completely unhealthy.

We've weaponized social media and the internet.

StylinRed
08-25-2019, 06:27 AM
In the article she says she's not a racist person. So we can just close the thread now and move on. It's all just been a big misunderstanding.

So I've been reading her FB comments, and all the dirt the morons have been digging up on her.

Sounds like she's recently divorced, and her kids, or one of her kids, has disowned her, no doubt she's going through a lot of shit.
So I could see someone that's going through a lot, being extremely annoyed/grouchy with everyone

So here she is, presented with someone giving her a hard time for her own stupidity (parking like a fool) and this old lady just can't deal with life anymore, so she's gonna hit out at this stranger, even though she's in the wrong, she wants someone else to feel as bad as she does

And she hits out the easiest way possible, taboos, race/sex/weight/etc doesn't make it right of course, but I can see someone who isn't normally racist, do racist things, jusy because they want to hurt someone else, because they're hurting

For me, my reaction to that, isn't to hit back in anger, I actually pity them, and that would probably make the person feel worse, than if you hit back in anger

For a lot of these people giving her hell right now, they're the same, they're feeling sad n down about life, and they want to hit out at someone to make themselves feel better, to feel like they did something good, so they attack this crazy old lady, but they feel completely justified

Great68
08-25-2019, 06:47 AM
I'm curious if the chinese lady already had the camera rolling when white lady came back to her car, or if it was some time after the confrontation started.

If it's the former then being greeted with a camera on you when you're not expecting it is definately going to antagonize the situation and lead to further bad decisions. I mean this lady knew it was her fault she hit the other car, she's probably embarassed and now is confronted with a camera in her face. She's not exactly thinking straight at this point so she goes off the deep end.

Has no one here ever said hurtful things in the heat of the moment that you don't actually mean?

Do you think that one shitty thing should 100% define your character?

SkinnyPupp
08-25-2019, 07:02 AM
I'm curious if the chinese lady already had the camera rolling when white lady came back to her car, or if it was some time after the confrontation started.

If it's the former then being greeted with a camera on you when you're not expecting it is definately going to antagonize the situation and lead to further bad decisions. I mean this lady knew it was her fault she hit the other car, she's probably embarassed and now is confronted with a camera in her face. She's not exactly thinking straight at this point so she goes off the deep end.

Has no one here ever said hurtful things in the heat of the moment that you don't actually mean?

Do you think that one shitty thing should 100% define your character?
I think most people HERE are being reasonable (well a few people went looking for her facebook, but I assume that's mostly to see the shit show).

I think most reasonable people assume that yeah, she's probably a shitty racist deep inside, and it came out during a moment of extreme frustration. But I think everyone deserves the chance to redeem themselves, and almost everyone can (some things are beyond redemption IMO, but to each their own)

unit
08-25-2019, 07:18 AM
Did she park over the line when there was no vehicle in front of her (or a different vehicle parked well behind the line) or did she hit the vehicle in front of her and that’s what started this whole altercation?

I’m inclined to believe the latter based on her disregard for the vehicle beside her, her behaviour caught on camera, and her comments above.

If the vehicle in front of her drove into her car despite being a little over the line, that’s pretty shitty, too.

it's pretty obvious that the person trying to flee the scene is the one who caused the damage, and the one recording is the victim. if someone hit my car, i wouldn't be hurling insults while getting in my car and leaving.

tiger_handheld
08-25-2019, 08:09 AM
...(well a few people went looking for her facebook, but I assume that's mostly to see the shit show)....



thats exactly what it was. a shit show.

this lady is done for.

did we not learn anything from the 2011 riots?
or from Terry Benadict in Oceans 11 - "someone is always watching"....

MarkyMark
08-25-2019, 08:43 AM
It's because of the convenience of a smart phone, you can record anything with very little effort.

Let's be honest here, if someone hurled racist shit at you and all it took to ruin their life was for you to pull out your smartphone record it and then post it on reddit/facebook -- you'd do it 9/10 times.

That's some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. Someone says something mean to you and the first thing that comes to your mind is "I'm going to ruin your life".

Who's the actual cunt in this situation? Both people sound like pieces of shit, you might actually get along if you met under different circumstances.

welfare
08-25-2019, 08:45 AM
Why the fck would you take in his car if you did not have the time to look at it? FailFish

Something tells me you've never worked a job that consists entirely of solving multiple complex issues daily yet have no idea what it could be until it's in front of you.
If you had, you'd know that scheduling can almost be redundant at times.

unit
08-25-2019, 09:09 AM
I'm curious if the chinese lady already had the camera rolling when white lady came back to her car, or if it was some time after the confrontation started.

If it's the former then being greeted with a camera on you when you're not expecting it is definately going to antagonize the situation and lead to further bad decisions. I mean this lady knew it was her fault she hit the other car, she's probably embarassed and now is confronted with a camera in her face. She's not exactly thinking straight at this point so she goes off the deep end.

Has no one here ever said hurtful things in the heat of the moment that you don't actually mean?

Do you think that one shitty thing should 100% define your character?

there's no excuse for racism. you can call someone an asshole or a bitch in a heated moment, if you're going to call someone a nigger or a chink or tell them to go back to their country, those are low blows and totally says a lot about your character.

tegra7
08-25-2019, 09:12 AM
Someone leaked her cell phone number. lol

Euro7r
08-25-2019, 09:33 AM
there's no excuse for racism. you can call someone an asshole or a bitch in a heated moment, if you're going to call someone a nigger or a chink or tell them to go back to their country, those are low blows and totally says a lot about your character.

Her actions were uncalled for. When I flip out, I just give them middle finger and move the fuck on. Only in Canada you can get away with these kinda things, if it's in USA, call a black guy a nigga, your brains would be spewing out on the ground already.

twitchyzero
08-25-2019, 10:23 AM
Do you think that one shitty thing should 100% define your character?

she's doubling down when media contacted her, so that's not really one shitty thing, she's just showing her true colours

welfare
08-25-2019, 10:54 AM
To be a white person in Canada.. what a perilous life BibleThump

Far be it from me to host a pity party. Just saying there are a multitude of ways for people to see division. And there are better ways of handling it so people can still retain their dignity.

Do you honestly think this person who made the recording feels proud of the outcome of releasing the mob of sjw Twitter hounds? Reading the comments?
I certainly wouldn't. But maybe that's just me.

Manic!
08-25-2019, 12:43 PM
Something tells me you've never worked a job that consists entirely of solving multiple complex issues daily yet have no idea what it could be until it's in front of you.
If you had, you'd know that scheduling can almost be redundant at times.

So you wasted his day pissed him off and lost him as a customer. Good job gold stars for everyone.

bcedhk
08-25-2019, 01:00 PM
The husband seems like a nut as well...

https://www.richmond.ca/__shared/assets/_23_Delegation_KenWaldman_CNCL01141952522.pdf

LOL, classic senior/white entitlement.

bcrdukes
08-25-2019, 01:35 PM
At least she didn't get banned from RevScene... :inoutugh:

westopher
08-25-2019, 01:36 PM
True story:
Couple weeks ago we had a customer (i won't mention his ethnicity) who dropped his car off for a concern. I think it may have been under warranty. Anyways, we were extremely busy that day and were unable to get to it promptly.
afternoon rolls around, customer comes in and immediately plays the race card. Says "you didn't look at my vehicle because I'm (blank)! I'm going to go to the news and tell them you're a racist!"
The advisor was extremely (and rightfully) upset. He didn't hit record on his phone. Instead he got up and told him to take his car and get the fuck out.
The customers wife, very nice lady actually, apologized for her husband and pleaded for the advisor to have someone look at the car when we could. Which we did.

You don't have to be vindictive to get your point across.
This shit happens all the time. We have had people who don't get a table right away at the restaurant say its because of racism, and even leave reviews about it online. Honestly accusing everyone around you of being racist when you don't get your way is just as ridiculous as being racist as it attempts to delegitimize real racism. Its especially pathetic when its in an environment that is full of all ethnicities as employees and customers. Like you aren't the one person that lost the racism lottery that day.
People are racist, and people do racist shit, but just because someone of a different ethnicity treats you like an asshole, it can be for any multitude of reasons other than racism.

pastarocket
08-25-2019, 01:57 PM
Is it just a coincidence that the amount of racism reported in the media is going up in the past four years after the election of Dotard Trump as POTUS?

:considered:

All these racists, Nazis, and white nationalists crawl out of the woodwork to spew their hatred because a racist politician emboldens them to do so?

StylinRed
08-25-2019, 02:26 PM
This shit happens all the time. We have had people who don't get a table right away at the restaurant say its because of racism , and even leave reviews about it online. Honestly accusing everyone around you of being racist when you don't get your way is just as ridiculous as being racist as it attempts to delegitimize real racism. Its especially pathetic when its in an environment that is full of all ethnicities as employees and customers. Like you aren't the one person that lost the racism lottery that day.
People are racist, and people do racist shit, but just because someone of a different ethnicity treats you like an asshole, it can be for any multitude of reasons other than racism.
Are you saying you didn't give that customer a table, cuz u were being an asshole? Lol lmao wtf

westopher
08-25-2019, 02:56 PM
Either way you want to interpret it, that wouldn't have been the case. We would have been treating them like the asshole, that they were. Regardless, we didn't give them a table because the 50 people that got there before them, regardless of ethnicity, get seated first.
Treating someone like an asshole doesn't make you an asshole, unless they aren't an asshole. It's asshole math.

bobbinka
08-25-2019, 03:14 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/021/464/14608107_1180665285312703_1558693314_n.jpg

hud 91gt
08-25-2019, 03:17 PM
there's no excuse for racism. you can call someone an asshole or a bitch in a heated moment, if you're going to call someone a nigger or a chink or tell them to go back to their country, those are low blows and totally says a lot about your character.

In a heated argument people can say some stupid things.

I’m about as anti racial as it comes, I make plenty of jokes but in reality I like to think I give everyone the equal opportunity until they show me a reason not too.

I was riding my road bike on beach ave doing 30+ km/h. The speed limit is 30km/h. This man, who looked to be of Spanish decent yells at me and points to the causeway and yells “bike paths over there (pointing south).

I came back with a couple words but then stopped myself halfway... I was about to say “you know what else is over their? Mexico!” Do I have anything against Mexicans? absolutely not. In fact it’s my favourite place to travel too, for the people!!! It was a cheap shot for no reason. An idiotic thing to think in an attempt to retaliate from someone’s stupid comment in the first place.

Where am I going with this? Sometimes people say (or my case, think) things for a cheap shot or to get a rise out of someone. I’m not defending this women, but don’t just jump on the bandwagon.

Or I’m just an awful person. Who knows.

twitchyzero
08-25-2019, 03:26 PM
how you know he's not from Honduras or Burnaby
but it's ok because i like the food at Metrotown

hud 91gt
08-25-2019, 03:28 PM
Exactly. Its an idiotic thing to say, but was used as a quick cheap insult for zero reason other then the fact it was easy.

I would have been so angry at myself if I had actually said something. Instilling hate for no reason other then retaliation/defence for a stupid comment. Twitchy you can sit up on your pedestal all you want, but the world is not black and white. If you open your eyes, you might start to enjoy the whole experience. Failing me for thinking something is an interesting point.

If that poor sap had mind reading capabilities, got so upset and crashed his car, I’d be right behind him, my spandex clad ass burning in the fiery crash trying to save him. I’m just trying to say, sometimes people say shot they don’t mean. The only thing I would have done to that guy is not hold the door open for him because I was having a bad day and he pissed me off.

welfare
08-25-2019, 03:55 PM
So you wasted his day pissed him off and lost him as a customer. Good job gold stars for everyone.

You forgot the most important part Manic!
all because he was brown FeelsBadMan

welfare
08-25-2019, 05:01 PM
Is it just a coincidence that the amount of racism reported in the media is going up in the past four years after the election of Dotard Trump as POTUS?

:considered:

All these racists, Nazis, and white nationalists crawl out of the woodwork to spew their hatred because a racist politician emboldens them to do so?

Don't let the mainstream news head fake you too hard

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/elder-the-fake-news-surge-in-hate-crimes

According to the FBI, “hate crimes” are on the rise. The agency reported a 17% increase in such crimes in 2017 compared to 2016. Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., recently said: “There has been an increase in hate crimes. There has been an increase in very negative rhetoric at groups.” Notwithstanding the crime hoax perpetrated by actor Jussie Smollett, CNN recently reported, “Hate crime allegations show no signs of stopping, with plenty of examples reported in recent months.”

But wait. The FBI, in its news release announcing the 2017 Hate Crime Statistics report detailing the “rise” in hate crimes, said, “Although the numbers increased last year, so did the number of law enforcement agencies reporting hate crime data — with approximately 1,000 additional agencies contributing information.” Coincidentally, the number of agencies that reported at least one hate crime within their jurisdiction also increased in 2017 — by 15%.

twitchyzero
08-25-2019, 05:11 PM
Twitchy you can sit up on your pedestal all you want, but the world is not black and white. If you open your eyes, you might start to enjoy the whole experience. Failing me for thinking something is an interesting point.

there's just a few too many posts in here defending awful racist behaviour

i'm not a saint and have said shit i wish i could take back, but not to strangers nor just a word or two, but completely going off with rather vile/hateful tone, raspberries included

get triggered, flip the bird and cuss some, sure...but this level is on par with spitting someone's face or getting physical...sorry not gonna find empathy from me on this

twitchyzero
08-25-2019, 05:32 PM
everyone's fighting their own battles, no need to try to drag others down by being toxic af just so it makes you feel a bit better temporarily..if you need to do that then seek some help

GS8
08-25-2019, 06:13 PM
Reruns are still being aired and heads are not exploding because it was shot in the 70's and people are not stupid.

They're too busy being pre-occupied with statues and digging up old tweets of people they don't like. I'd argue they're pretty stupid :moderated:

Though anyone who posts incessantly on social media is just asking for it, like this woman from Richmond. I'm guessing her profile was public.

Harvey Specter
08-25-2019, 08:54 PM
I hate to say it but a lot of locals share the same views which is why she doesn't feel the need to apologize.

Mr.Money
08-26-2019, 06:29 AM
the old white lady probably thought she didn't understand English and kept talking anyway,you know like 70% of Richmond even if this is Canada.

freakshow
08-26-2019, 02:47 PM
get triggered, flip the bird and cuss some, sure...but this level is on par with spitting someone's face or getting physical...sorry not gonna find empathy from me on thiswat

i don't get how this level is on par with physical violence when it was literally not physical violence. it is literally the same level as flipping the bird and cussing...

Hondaracer
08-26-2019, 02:54 PM
Hey man, it’s like, worse than physical violence, it’s borderline comical racist stupidity

I say let’s not stop at ruining her life, let’s literally find and burn down her house, that will teach her!!

Manic!
08-26-2019, 03:55 PM
Hey man, it’s like, worse than physical violence, it’s borderline comical racist stupidity

I say let’s not stop at ruining her life, let’s literally find and burn down her house, that will teach her!!

Hopefully it will teach other idiots to keep there mouth shut. At least no one skinned her alive like they did with Emmett Till.

Badhobz
08-26-2019, 05:06 PM
Is her life ruined yet ?! I guess she's retired and doesn't give a shit cuz she's on pension. It's not like her support circle is going to alienate her anyways.

Best solution is community service at nearest TNT. That's an epic idea kkttsang

AzNightmare
08-26-2019, 05:21 PM
So you wasted his day pissed him off and lost him as a customer. Good job gold stars for everyone.

Not enough info in this story. Was there a time agreed beforehand of how long the repair would take? Just because a car gets dropped off doesn't mean it gets worked on promptly. Even a basic oil change can sometimes take up to 2 hours (when they start working on the car 1.5 hrs after I drop it off.) I don't go storming in an hour later after I drop the car off and pull the racist card when I realized the car has been sitting there for an hour. Even if I'm upset, it's a character flaw to jump to conclusion about it being due to racism when something doesn't go my way.

In a heated argument people can say some stupid things.

Sure, but then most people would backpedal. Not go full send with no regrets.

twitchyzero
08-26-2019, 06:44 PM
wat

i don't get how this level is on par with physical violence when it was literally not physical violence. it is literally the same level as flipping the bird and cussing...

when someone else's bumper is left french kissing your's and the lady proceeds to ding another door a few times within seconds?

nah it's not just on the level of cussing at this point...loose cannon doesn't care about other property

320icar
08-26-2019, 08:31 PM
I hate to say it but a lot of locals share the same views which is why she doesn't feel the need to apologize.

Yeah. Definitely not right but I get it. Any time someone’s long term home changes as drastically and as fast as Richmond has (20 years) it’s going to upset people. People fear 2 things; change, and what they don’t understand.

Both my mom and dad were born in Richmond 57 years ago. Thankfully I have a warm welcoming family that taught me acceptance and not racism

nabs
08-27-2019, 10:41 AM
l

https://www.revscene.net/forums/716407-i-dont-know-how-title-but-people-needs-see.html

Fixed. thanks for bringing this up.

nabs
08-27-2019, 10:50 AM
lol her grand kids are gunna have a tough time in school

I don't find this funny. It's actually a horrible scenario for people who are related to her, especially for the young kids involved who may have been Doxxed.

there's just a few too many posts in here defending awful racist behaviour

i'm not a saint and have said shit i wish i could take back, but not to strangers nor just a word or two, but completely going off with rather vile/hateful tone, raspberries included

get triggered, flip the bird and cuss some, sure...but this level is on par with spitting someone's face or getting physical...sorry not gonna find empathy from me on this

Words are not violence, violence is violence. Although we don't agree with what she said, we can't stop someone from saying things. IMO she's just a shitty person, plain and simple.

twitchyzero
08-27-2019, 12:53 PM
did you watch the video? her car is smacked right into another

maybe property damage doesn't bother you guys much, i'd be livid

shawnly1000
08-27-2019, 01:13 PM
UPDATE: Richmond RCMP say this matter will not proceed to criminal charges, adding: "Richmond RCMP would like to remind public that while this incident does not meet the threshold for criminal charge, some of the responses on social media could be considered criminal in nature.".

https://twitter.com/AndreaWoo/status/1166458410897985536

JDMDreams
08-27-2019, 01:53 PM
So hit and run isn't a criminal offense. Good to know, #becausementalillness

:fulloffuck:

hi-revs
08-27-2019, 03:22 PM
So hit and run isn't a criminal offense. Good to know, #becausementalillness

:fulloffuck:

When a white person pull these types of crap, it's always f#cking mental health issues.
See a person of colour pulling the same, its terrorism...

Because shes not being charged, I wouldn't be surprised if more of this happened.

westopher
08-27-2019, 03:57 PM
You really think if someone who isn’t white dinged a door, a bumper and called a white person white trash/cracker/etc. It would be considered terrorism?

StylinRed
08-27-2019, 04:08 PM
What were you guys expecting? Her to be arrested for dinging the door of the neighbouring car?

For her car touching the lady who recorded her? There's no proof of who hit whom, is there even an icbc claim? (then that's for icbc to sort out)

Expect her to be charged for her racist remarks? It's not a hate crime..

Y2K_o__o
08-27-2019, 04:47 PM
What were you guys expecting? Her to be arrested for singing the door of the neighbouring car?

For her car touching the lady who recorded her? There's no proof of who hit whom, is there even an icbc claim? (then that's for icbc to sort out)

Expect her to be charged for her racist remarks? It's not a hate crime..

You're right there's no proof of who hit whom, but if the civic lady is the victim. Do you think she'll walk away like this?

StylinRed
08-27-2019, 04:49 PM
You're right there's no proof of who hit whom, but if the civic lady is the victim. Do you think she'll walk away like this?

Doesn't matter what we want to think, point is there's nothing for the police to do that's why they did nothing

Hondaracer
08-27-2019, 05:02 PM
Ruin her life! Criminal charges! Ruin her grandkids lives!!!

Dat Outrage culture strong in RS, dun worry, you’ll forget all about it by next week

68style
08-27-2019, 06:11 PM
So hit and run isn't a criminal offense. Good to know, #becausementalillness

:fulloffuck:

Reading comprehension much?

The article clearly said that police attended this incident, there was no hit and run.

The only part of your post you got right > :fulloffuck:

Turns out I went to high school with this lady’s son, he’s getting harassed to shit online by people and he had absolutely nothing to do with it, super nice guy and a very upstanding leader in his field of work which is defined by acceptance and diversity and he obviously does not share her views or he wouldn’t be in that field of work.

Society/social media is all a bunch of bloodthirsty scumbag vigilantes nowadays. Who’s more disgusting? An angry old lady yelling racist shit or people online wanting another human being to die and ruining the lives of family members who don’t even live on this side of the country anymore?

BIC_BAWS
08-27-2019, 07:07 PM
Reading comprehension much?

The article clearly said that police attended this incident, there was no hit and run.


Not sure where you're reading that the police attended the incident. The police did not attend the incident. The police didn't even know about it until the video went viral. Further, a formal complaint was only filed the next morning.


Thanked for the last part.

twitchyzero
08-27-2019, 07:27 PM
easy, deactivate your social media when the world's about to find out your mom's a blatant racist

swat came to my house and disrespected my whole famiry

lmao i have people on facebook from california commenting on the news...disgusting scumbags giving their input online!

whitev70r
08-27-2019, 07:28 PM
at·tend /əˈtend/

past tense: attended; past participle: attended
1. be present at (an event, meeting, or function).
"the entire sales force attended the conference"
synonyms: be present at, be at, be there at, sit in on, take part in; More
2. deal with.
"he muttered that he had business to attend to"

twitchyzero
08-27-2019, 07:47 PM
probably just a coincidence but im noticing all the white guys on RS replying here besides SkinnyPupp/320icar are going with the 'let's think about her family/she must have be going thru tough shit give her a break' sentiment?

i'm not saying to stalk/harass her family but fuck that, take some goddamn responsibility to your words esp directly towards strangers and have some EQ/social IQ

pull this shit in hickville middle of nowhere among your friends, i don't care...but try this in a multicarturral center like Ricemond with the camera rolling don't act surprised it's going online with your employer notifying of your termination several days later...bitch welcome to year 2010

StylinRed
08-27-2019, 07:52 PM
I'm a halfer btw, just in case ya meant me :P

twitchyzero
08-27-2019, 08:24 PM
and is she really an educator?

this is even sadder than a tow truck driver hating on a young exotic car owner of ethnic minority

hope she's not polluting minds of the future with this vile toxicity

reminds me of the miserable supervision aide who would scream at kids to speak english on school grounds when i was growing up LUL

Bouncing Bettys
08-27-2019, 09:27 PM
probably just a coincidence but im noticing all the white guys on RS replying here besides SkinnyPupp/320icar are going with the 'let's think about her family/she must have be going thru tough shit give her a break' sentiment?

i'm not saying to stalk/harass her family but fuck that, take some goddamn responsibility to your words esp directly towards strangers and have some EQ/social IQ

pull this shit in hickville middle of nowhere among your friends, i don't care...but try this in a multicarturral center like Ricemond with the camera rolling don't act surprised it's going online with your employer notifying of your termination several days later...bitch welcome to year 2010
This lady was racist so let's be racist too. :rukidding:
You show me some relevant examples of people apologizing for past or in the heat of the moment behaviour and I'll show you examples where the mob took that as admittance of much worse and an excuse for further behaviour. You don't apologise to the easily offended. Give an inch and they take a mile. Hence why grandkids are being dragged into this before she even had a chance to apologise or not.

Badhobz
08-27-2019, 09:28 PM
probably just a coincidence but im noticing all the white guys on RS replying here besides SkinnyPupp/320icar are going with the 'let's think about her family/she must have be going thru tough shit give her a break' sentiment?

i'm not saying to stalk/harass her family but fuck that, take some goddamn responsibility to your words esp directly towards strangers and have some EQ/social IQ

pull this shit in hickville middle of nowhere among your friends, i don't care...but try this in a multicarturral center like Ricemond with the camera rolling don't act surprised it's going online with your employer notifying of your termination several days later...bitch welcome to year 2010

I agree with you bro but we shouldn't incite any further racism. RS is civilized (lawl) and people who are saying social media warriors are taking it too far aren't exactly wrong (involving the rest of her family is a line that shouldn't be crossed). However, bitch needs to pay her dues for spewing her hate and since the cops won't do jack shit, this online justice is pretty much the only thing we got as a recourse.

twitchyzero
08-27-2019, 10:06 PM
which part of my post was racist? ricemond? hickville? that the white guys are saying think of the children?

this lady already came out to public/media after the fact that she does not regret her childish tantrums

i didnt expect the police to do anything, just knew she was done for the moment it went on viral platforms and her social media was still around

what did she expect once the phone was out recording?

MarkyMark
08-27-2019, 10:06 PM
What recourse is needed? Unless there was damage to the persons car why do they feel like they are owed something? Shit way worse than that happens to people every fucking day. Take pride in the fact that you're a better person and get on with your life.

Is the time spent trying to ruin someone's life over that worth the effort? Why is it always the losers of the world who have time to seek people out that they don't even know on social media and go bat shit crazy on them? I guess successful people are too busy getting actual shit done.

This whole movement is a joke, I guarantee all these people who want to seek and destroy have skeletons in their closet that would make them shit their pants if they found it was on video.

GS8
08-27-2019, 10:11 PM
So while we have ongoing gun violence and massive opioid deaths (https://globalnews.ca/news/5816362/opioid-crisis-oklahoma-johnson-johnson/), people invest more time and effort into an old rambling parking lot bag. Yeah she said racist things but this is one single person involved in one single event that only impacted the people immediate in the situation and then bled over to people who weren't even involved now being dragged through the same mud as the actual perp.

The people 'seeking revenge' only care about their own social media XP so they can level up, get their 'rising star' achievement medal and maybe earn *gasp* 4 more followers on their social media pages! These people are repulsive cretins and are no better than those they attack. I'm willing to bet most of these people spend more time in their virtual world doing virtually virtuous things to polish their ego while doing nothing for their communities. Narcissists pure and simple. The narrative shifts from actual victims onto how these virtual soldiers 'react' or 'feel' about the victims.

Fuck, you can lead these people off a cliff if you told them a racist was heading that way.

68style
08-28-2019, 06:04 AM
easy, deactivate your social media when the world's about to find out your mom's a blatant racist

swat came to my house and disrespected my whole famiry



Just cuz you have no social media presence and can flip your FB or IG on and off without consequences doesn’t mean everyone is like you, his whole career is based on heavy social media presence, he can’t just turn that shit off.

SumAznGuy
08-28-2019, 08:40 AM
Just cuz you have no social media presence and can flip your FB or IG on and off without consequences doesn’t mean everyone is like you, his whole career is based on heavy social media presence, he can’t just turn that shit off.

Then all the more reason for his mom needs to own up to her actions and think twice before losing her shit in a day an age when everyone has a cellphone with a camera.

Look at pro sports athletes. some shit is just not tolerated, even if it is done during the offseason in their own personal time. Times are changing and ppl need to understand that.

pastarocket
08-28-2019, 11:35 AM
Is the lady being racist in the cell phone video? Absolutely! No doubt.

Is it a hate crime under the Criminal Code of Canada? I don't think so.

People on this RS thread can give their opinions without fear of persecution because of the freedom of speech that we have in Canada.

Unfortunately, this lady takes that freedom too far in spewing hatred against the Chinese lady.

I agree with many of the posts on this thread. Many of us have better things to do in our lives than to condemn this lady online and demand an apology from her.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/what-is-a-hate-crime-1.1011612


The Criminal Code of Canada says a hate crime is committed to intimidate, harm or terrify not only a person, but an entire group of people to which the victim belongs. The victims are targeted for who they are, not because of anything they have done.

A hate crime is one in which hate is the motive and can involve intimidation, harassment, physical force or threat of physical force against a person, a group or a property

Harvey Specter, can you confirm if this definition of a hate crime is correct?

If that lady uttered threats at the other driver or committed a violent act to harm the other person, then the legal ramifications for her are very different than the incident that occurred. No crime was committed in this incident.

Hondaracer
08-28-2019, 01:11 PM
Funny thing is, i've read a few diff local reporters now saying what she did isnt considered any sort of crime under the criminal code, however, there are comments and threats being made to her online which absolutely could be considered criminal offenses..

I'm not siding with the moron whatsoever, but honestly would be nice to see some SJW get some hefty penalties for their actions to straight these basement dwellers out who want to ruin peoples lives to feel better about their own existence.

welfare
08-28-2019, 01:32 PM
Ironically, I think most the sjw making threats are white. Hahaha that's too funny.

MG1
08-28-2019, 04:29 PM
Someone leaked her cell phone number. lol

Oh, she gonna get endless "Ching Chong, Ling Long, Ting Tong," spam calls from now on.

Come to think of it, I haven't had one of those calls in like forever.......... now it's the we're gonna arrest you ones.


Watching the Blue Jays vs the Braves......... wasn't really paying attention, but heard part of an ad........ "Learn how to control your WiFi."

Immediately I thought of..........

@kenwaldman................ Learn how to control your Wife, gulolol.

StylinRed
08-28-2019, 05:10 PM
@kenwaldman................ Learn how to control your Wife, gulolol.

lol, they're divorced btw

twitchyzero
08-28-2019, 06:18 PM
so while we have ongoing gun violence and massive opioid deaths (https://globalnews.ca/news/5816362/opioid-crisis-oklahoma-johnson-johnson/), people invest more time and effort into an old rambling parking lot bag.

why not go further and lament about kids not having clean water in asia?

please enlighten the rest of us on how to solve gun violence/drug overdose in my spare time

yeah a scratched up bumper from a racist is a first world problem...then again so are 99.9% of the complaints here

MarkyMark
08-28-2019, 06:20 PM
Then all the more reason for his mom needs to own up to her actions and think twice before losing her shit in a day an age when everyone has a cellphone with a camera.

Look at pro sports athletes. some shit is just not tolerated, even if it is done during the offseason in their own personal time. Times are changing and ppl need to understand that.

Yeah must be nice to have shitty parents and have it come back to haunt you because of no fault of your own. Anyone who tries to justify innocent family members getting harassed just because they are affiliated with the person who did something stupid really need to give their head a shake.

twitchyzero
08-28-2019, 06:35 PM
no one is placing the fault on her family members

simply think twice before you say hateful shit to strangers, how fucking hard is it to have some self-control?

be kind to others; you know rudimentary social norms we teach pre-schoolers

Zedbra
08-28-2019, 08:11 PM
Oh how you all love to hate. Last verse, same as the first.

MarkyMark
08-28-2019, 08:33 PM
no one is placing the fault on her family members

simply think twice before you say hateful shit to strangers, how fucking hard is it to have some self-control?

be kind to others; you know rudimentary social norms we teach pre-schoolers

You're right no one is placing the blame on them, they are just condoning them getting hit in the cross fire due to association.

The world isn't perfect and it never will be no matter how many people decide to go on a witch hunt. Think twice before you speak? How about grow a sack and move on? This isn't someone you have to see everyday it's a one off parking lot bitchfest and that's it.

welfare
08-28-2019, 09:26 PM
why not go further and lament about kids not having clean water in asia?

please enlighten the rest of us on how to solve gun violence/drug overdose in my spare time

yeah a scratched up bumper from a racist is a first world problem...then again so are 99.9% of the complaints here

There are kids who don't have clean water in Canada.

You have to admit though, it is pretty sweet to live in a country where people aren't brutally attacking/killing each other based on differences in appearance, faith, class, etc..
Kind of puts the whole thing into perspective, no?

kr4l
08-28-2019, 09:30 PM
You're right no one is placing the blame on them, they are just condoning them getting hit in the cross fire due to association.

The world isn't perfect and it never will be no matter how many people decide to go on a witch hunt. Think twice before you speak? How about grow a sack and move on? This isn't someone you have to see everyday it's a one off parking lot bitchfest and that's it.

One off? Lol you must be white

I’ve dealt with racism numerous times and have “grown a sack and moved in”

Although I’m not one of the many holding the pitchforks, I’m glad this is getting the attention that it is, raising awareness that racism isn’t welcomed here

MarkyMark
08-28-2019, 10:04 PM
One off? Lol you must be white

I’ve dealt with racism numerous times and have “grown a sack and moved in”

Although I’m not one of the many holding the pitchforks, I’m glad this is getting the attention that it is, raising awareness that racism isn’t welcomed here

Nah I'm just your run of the mill half white half brown mix, never had a mean comment come my way in my entire life.

Sid Vicious
08-28-2019, 10:15 PM
What recourse is needed? Unless there was damage to the persons car why do they feel like they are owed something? Shit way worse than that happens to people every fucking day. Take pride in the fact that you're a better person and get on with your life.

Is the time spent trying to ruin someone's life over that worth the effort? Why is it always the losers of the world who have time to seek people out that they don't even know on social media and go bat shit crazy on them? I guess successful people are too busy getting actual shit done.

This whole movement is a joke, I guarantee all these people who want to seek and destroy have skeletons in their closet that would make them shit their pants if they found it was on video.

lol, try saying that exact same shit if you were a younger man, you'd get your fucking ass kicked.

some people hide with impunity behind their gender/age and thus are never punished, but now i guess that protections run its course

SumAznGuy
08-30-2019, 09:46 AM
Just saw this on the news in Seattle.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5832968/seattle-racist-rant-hammer-attack/

MG1
08-30-2019, 10:22 AM
You can mess with asians, yo, but a black man............ no, no, no.............. Don't go mess with black people. They fight back.

My best friend in high school was black......... nobody messed with us. I felt so safe. Dude was super cool, but get on the wrong side of him and he will make you wish you were back in yo momma's womb.

Anyway.................. carry on carrying on.

spoon.ek9
08-30-2019, 10:28 AM
so the guy throwing racist slurs attempts to hit victim with his car (twice, misses), throws a hammer (misses) then has his arm broken with his own hammer LOL. that is awesome.

68style
08-30-2019, 01:28 PM
One off? Lol you must be white

I’ve dealt with racism numerous times and have “grown a sack and moved in”

Although I’m not one of the many holding the pitchforks, I’m glad this is getting the attention that it is, raising awareness that racism isn’t welcomed here

Oh our golden existence! I'm white and have lived in Richmond my whole life and I've heard it ALL... fucking cracker... fucking honkey... fuckin brokeass beer drinking blah blah blah (insert stereotype)... Go back to Langley... Where's your pickup truck whiteboy?

Go to pick up your asian girlfriend? What do her parents say? "White people don't know how to manage money"... "Asian people are better at everything"... "You should learn from asian people more"....................... "Why you drink cold water? Bad for your body"..... okay so I threw that last one in as a joke

You think you're the only one who hears comments or gets purposely bad service anywhere? Try doing anything in Parker Place or Yaohan or Aberdeen when you're anything other than Chinese. Or go to a restaurant anywhere around #3 Rd. Nevermind all the backhanded asshole comments you get if you're dating and/or married to someone Asian, usually said in Mandarin because they think you won't understand them.

Asian people can be racist as shit too just like anyone else! And they ARE racist as shit every single day........ just like anyone else. Just lucky not to get caught on camera or what?

Do I blame the race? The culture? No... it's the individual, and the individual who says these things is sick/twisted/whatever else. Ignore them and move on with your life.

This stupid woman isn't representative of anyone nor should she be. Racism hasn't been welcome in the lower mainland as long as I've been alive which is 40 years.... what makes you think suddenly it's tolerated and there needs to be a massive backlash?

welfare
08-30-2019, 02:56 PM
Came across this thread this morning. Neat stuff!
https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/cwkc62/why_dont_we_murder_more_white_people_why_dont_we/

320icar
08-30-2019, 03:05 PM
Oh our golden existence! I'm white and have lived in Richmond my whole life and I've heard it ALL... fucking cracker... fucking honkey... fuckin brokeass beer drinking blah blah blah (insert stereotype)... Go back to Langley... Where's your pickup truck whiteboy?

Go to pick up your asian girlfriend? What do her parents say? "White people don't know how to manage money"... "Asian people are better at everything"... "You should learn from asian people more"....................... "Why you drink cold water? Bad for your body"..... okay so I threw that last one in as a joke

You think you're the only one who hears comments or gets purposely bad service anywhere? Try doing anything in Parker Place or Yaohan or Aberdeen when you're anything other than Chinese. Or go to a restaurant anywhere around #3 Rd. Nevermind all the backhanded asshole comments you get if you're dating and/or married to someone Asian, usually said in Mandarin because they think you won't understand them.

Asian people can be racist as shit too just like anyone else! And they ARE racist as shit every single day........ just like anyone else. Just lucky not to get caught on camera or what?

Do I blame the race? The culture? No... it's the individual, and the individual who says these things is sick/twisted/whatever else. Ignore them and move on with your life.

This stupid woman isn't representative of anyone nor should she be. Racism hasn't been welcome in the lower mainland as long as I've been alive which is 40 years.... what makes you think suddenly it's tolerated and there needs to be a massive backlash?

Unfortunately I can confirm all of this. Especially hanging out with my female friends who speak Mandarin/canto. Usually we’ll be walking somewhere and her body language will obviously change to anger. I’ll have no idea what’s going on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ until she translates

punkwax
08-30-2019, 03:36 PM
^ try being one of 2 “fuckin’ white boys” in a classroom of 30 kids on the wrong side of Scott Road.

I’ve dealt with a shitload of racism. Today if someone is being a POS the last thing I’m doing is pulling out my phone and hoping the internets will ruin their lives lol

Snowflakes.

spoon.ek9
08-30-2019, 04:00 PM
Oh our golden existence! I'm white and have lived in Richmond my whole life and I've heard it ALL... fucking cracker... fucking honkey... fuckin brokeass beer drinking blah blah blah (insert stereotype)... Go back to Langley... Where's your pickup truck whiteboy?

Go to pick up your asian girlfriend? What do her parents say? "White people don't know how to manage money"... "Asian people are better at everything"... "You should learn from asian people more"....................... "Why you drink cold water? Bad for your body"..... okay so I threw that last one in as a joke

You think you're the only one who hears comments or gets purposely bad service anywhere? Try doing anything in Parker Place or Yaohan or Aberdeen when you're anything other than Chinese. Or go to a restaurant anywhere around #3 Rd. Nevermind all the backhanded asshole comments you get if you're dating and/or married to someone Asian, usually said in Mandarin because they think you won't understand them.

Asian people can be racist as shit too just like anyone else! And they ARE racist as shit every single day........ just like anyone else. Just lucky not to get caught on camera or what?

Do I blame the race? The culture? No... it's the individual, and the individual who says these things is sick/twisted/whatever else. Ignore them and move on with your life.

This stupid woman isn't representative of anyone nor should she be. Racism hasn't been welcome in the lower mainland as long as I've been alive which is 40 years.... what makes you think suddenly it's tolerated and there needs to be a massive backlash?

My good buddy is flip. Jacked and covered in tattoos. Him and his family went to Aberdeen at one of the Chinese restaurants for dinner around 6:00. The hostess immediately said to him "sorry sir, dim sum finished at 2:30" before he could even get a word in. He replies "I KNOW that, I'm here for dinner". Racist af but also fucking hilarious hahah. I laughed so hard when he told us the story.

spoon.ek9
08-30-2019, 04:03 PM
^ try being one of 2 “fuckin’ white boys” in a classroom of 30 kids on the wrong side of Scott Road.

I’ve dealt with a shitload of racism. Today if someone is being a POS the last thing I’m doing is pulling out my phone and hoping the internets will ruin their lives lol

Snowflakes.

we've all got our stories when it comes to racism. no one is immune. me, I was one of 3 asian kids in a classroom of about 40 in Calgary. I've heard plenty of racist shit as a child. So glad to live in Richmond since the mid 90's.

Ball.J.Inder
08-30-2019, 05:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

StylinRed
08-30-2019, 05:52 PM
Unfortunately I can confirm all of this. Especially hanging out with my female friends who speak Mandarin/canto. Usually we’ll be walking somewhere and her body language will obviously change to anger. I’ll have no idea what’s going on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ until she translates

^ try being one of 2 “fuckin’ white boys” in a classroom of 30 kids on the wrong side of Scott Road.

I’ve dealt with a shitload of racism. Today if someone is being a POS the last thing I’m doing is pulling out my phone and hoping the internets will ruin their lives lol

Snowflakes.

My ex is Chinese, and I look white, and I can confirm this too except she had no idea because she can't speak canto/mando, but I do, for me tho I'm just like /shrug I may say something in Chinese just so they know I know, otherwise it's like meh

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/97/a9/e697a9d57fd0d65fd3e2b1ace2fd146b.png

Not sure if it's an actual quote of his, but it's true

punkwax
08-30-2019, 07:05 PM
^ agreed. I picked up enough Hindi/Punjabi/Fijian etc to know when people were talking shit. Every once in a while I might let people know I understood some of what they said just for shits and giggles.

Caught two ladies making my sandwich at Subway by surprise pretty good one day lol

You need to have a thick skin to live in a multicultural place like Vancouver. There are shitty people of all different races/beliefs. I just try not to stereotype as there’s a lot of good out there as well. Way more good than bad apples in my experience.

Except for the Dutch.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M

Before anyone gets offended, I identify myself as primarily Dutch because of my last name despite being quite the shit-mix by now, including First Nations. But I’m stubborn af so wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn’t listen = Dutch LUL

welfare
08-30-2019, 07:22 PM
Oof. Try being the only "fuckin whiteboy" hanging with the natives. Man when they get to drinking. Let's just say you may wanna get your coat ready.
Parents were even worse. More so the poor ones.
Some were cool though of course.
Guess it's kinda understandable with all the resentment that's systematically harvested.

Racism was pretty much just a normal occurrence.

welfare
08-30-2019, 07:42 PM
Tbh, i don't even really see racism as being much of a thing.
Usually all it boils down to is "your" people did something to "my" people at some point in time and so now i despise them/you.

People try to act as if it's some kind of unnatural characteristic. When in reality, it really doesn't get much more natural. Been using this mechanism since the stone age

SkinnyPupp
08-30-2019, 07:59 PM
Tbh, i don't even really see racism as being much of a thing.
Usually all it boils down to is "your" people did something to "my" people at some point in time and so now i despise them/you.

People try to act as if it's some kind of unnatural characteristic. When in reality, it really doesn't get much more natural. Been using this mechanism since the stone age
Can't argue against racism being a "natural" evolutionary thing. But society moves beyond that. It is also "natural" for men to fuck any woman they come across, consent or not, going back to "the stone age". But society has moved beyond that.

And so on

welfare
08-30-2019, 08:30 PM
Can't argue against racism being a "natural" evolutionary thing. But society moves beyond that. It is also "natural" for men to fuck any woman they come across, consent or not, going back to "the stone age". But society has moved beyond that.

And so on

Oh don't get me wrong. I'm not implying it should be acceptable.
But it can be understood. If that makes sense.

fliptuner
08-30-2019, 10:28 PM
Oh our golden existence! I'm white and have lived in Richmond my whole life and I've heard it ALL... fucking cracker... fucking honkey... fuckin brokeass beer drinking blah blah blah (insert stereotype)... Go back to Langley... Where's your pickup truck whiteboy?

Go to pick up your asian girlfriend? What do her parents say? "White people don't know how to manage money"... "Asian people are better at everything"... "You should learn from asian people more"....................... "Why you drink cold water? Bad for your body"..... okay so I threw that last one in as a joke

You think you're the only one who hears comments or gets purposely bad service anywhere? Try doing anything in Parker Place or Yaohan or Aberdeen when you're anything other than Chinese. Or go to a restaurant anywhere around #3 Rd. Nevermind all the backhanded asshole comments you get if you're dating and/or married to someone Asian, usually said in Mandarin because they think you won't understand them.

Asian people can be racist as shit too just like anyone else! And they ARE racist as shit every single day........ just like anyone else. Just lucky not to get caught on camera or what?

Do I blame the race? The culture? No... it's the individual, and the individual who says these things is sick/twisted/whatever else. Ignore them and move on with your life.

This stupid woman isn't representative of anyone nor should she be. Racism hasn't been welcome in the lower mainland as long as I've been alive which is 40 years.... what makes you think suddenly it's tolerated and there needs to be a massive backlash?

So what you're saying is.....

YOU'RE A WHITE?!?!?!

:fulloffuck:

It's starting to make sense now :considered:



:troll:

Jmac
08-30-2019, 10:58 PM
RaceScene

Bouncing Bettys
08-31-2019, 09:38 AM
RaceScene
See you at Race Wars
https://giphy.com/gifs/animated-fight-fast-NMwQb9LqfpKJW

Jmac
08-31-2019, 09:47 AM
See you at Race Wars
https://giphy.com/gifs/animated-fight-fast-NMwQb9LqfpKJW
https://youtu.be/2EH9C8ZXVpI?t=75

Manic!
09-01-2019, 11:06 AM
it's not over reacting because immigrants know it starts with name calling and ends in violence.

Latest raciest idiot. Petsmart Surrey.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1zftPQgrbg/?igshid=c359s81ma89g

MG1
09-01-2019, 11:22 AM
Chick sounds like a shit disturber. She’s lucky dude didn’t slap or falcon punch her. They’re both wrong. I’ve always said, “Two wongs don’t make it white.”

GS8
09-01-2019, 11:37 AM
“Two wong’s don’t make it white.”

I love to lick dem lady fingers as they dissolve slowly on my igneous tongue

https://www.joyofbaking.com/images/facebook/ladyfingers1.jpg

punkwax
09-01-2019, 01:29 PM
it's not over reacting because immigrants know it starts with name calling and ends in violence.

When the 13 cousins show up.

:troll:

welfare
09-01-2019, 01:39 PM
Latest raciest idiot. Petsmart Surrey.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1zftPQgrbg/?igshid=c359s81ma89g

https://i1.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/costanza-its-only-racist-if-youre-white.jpg?resize=490%2C341&ssl=1

Manic!
09-01-2019, 02:17 PM
https://i1.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/costanza-its-only-racist-if-youre-white.jpg?resize=490%2C341&ssl=1

Is that one for your buddies in the video?

welfare
09-01-2019, 04:11 PM
Is that one for your buddies in the video?

The fact that you assume the people in the video are "my buddies" goes a long way in explaining the lens through which you see the world...

Manic!
09-01-2019, 04:35 PM
The fact that you assume the people in the video are "my buddies" goes a long way in explaining the lens through which you see the world...

What I thought all white guys hung out together drinking beer and listing to Skynyrd? Am I wrong?

StylinRed
09-01-2019, 06:16 PM
it's not over reacting because immigrants know it starts with name calling and ends in violence.

Latest raciest idiot. Petsmart Surrey.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1zftPQgrbg/?igshid=c359s81ma89g

Since this is RS... Side note, she's hot

PeanutButter
09-02-2019, 01:43 PM
Since this is RS... Side note, she's hot

Real question, do you actually think she's hot?

She's wearing so much make up, I can't even tell, unless you're into the whole makeup thing, which is fine.

StylinRed
09-02-2019, 02:11 PM
I think with most guys? We prefer girls with as lil makeup as possible, or none even, but hey, they do what they do, not my business (with my ex ppl couldn't recognize her when she doesn't have makeup on lol, but I preferred her without)

I'm not critiquing her choices in what she does with her face, etc.... I just think she's really pretty :P (not all her shots r full o makeup either)

welfare
09-02-2019, 03:46 PM
What I thought all white guys hung out together drinking beer and listing to Skynyrd? Am I wrong?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JqETyU9k0lM

GLOW
09-02-2019, 06:09 PM
what am i missing? she's obviously agitated and trying to get a reaction on camera from the 2 guys. 1 guy throwing the thumbs up, 1 guy pretending to pull down his pants and hand down his crotch

i don't see/hear anything racist done here. :confused:

StylinRed
09-02-2019, 08:40 PM
what am i missing? she's obviously agitated and trying to get a reaction on camera from the 2 guys. 1 guy throwing the thumbs up, 1 guy pretending to pull down his pants and hand down his crotch

i don't see/hear anything racist done here. :confused:

Naw she claimed it all happened before, and after she recorded it.

Also supposedly the thumbs up guy was just there trying to de-escalate the situation, but they both continued, so he stepped aside, hasn't stopped the rabid online sjw crowd tho

welfare
09-02-2019, 09:43 PM
reminds me of Hugh Mungus lady

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I&t=333s

Sweet Jesus the memes that followed suit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnuMdWKG-Q

68style
09-02-2019, 10:45 PM
Gotta admit, for awhile there I was waiting for him to mic drop the whole thing and pull out a drivers license that really showed his name was Hugh Mungus

Mikoyan
09-03-2019, 09:12 PM
Figured here is as good a place as any....

Last week, spotted a black convertible with BC Parks Plate RA5 15T.

Was going to pull the dash cam footage for the pic, but turns out the SD card went bad and hasn't been recording for a month.

Badhobz
09-04-2019, 06:06 AM
Dude park plates aren't custom plates. Thats a bad on icbc to release that :lol

Mikoyan
09-04-2019, 10:34 AM
Dude park plates aren't custom plates. Thats a bad on icbc to release that :lol

Yup. Well aware of that. Total fail on ICBC's fault.

MG1
09-04-2019, 04:03 PM
Hugh Mungus, lol. Reminds me of the prank call I made to the receptionist at work (so long ago). Worked at a processing plant where there were tonnes of chinese and vietnamese ladies working on the line. I call receptionist and request to talk to Mi Hung Lo. This receptionist is a little clueless, so she gets on the PA and announces, "Mi Hung Lo, call holding on line 452, Mi hung Lo, 452." You could hear laughter from the lunchroom as she does this not once, but three times. She gets back to me and says, "Mi Hung Lo doesn't seem to be packing up." I had to hang up, because I was rofl.........

Plant manager knew something was up, but he was also probably laughing his guts out.


Mi hung lo, you hung lo, we all hung lo, bro

StylinRed
09-07-2019, 04:15 PM
Sun n province ran an oped that's being called racist
It's been taken down online, but it's out in today's print edition

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/09/07/absolute-garbage-vancouver-sun-op-ed-draws-backlash-criticized-as-racist/

Bouncing Bettys
09-07-2019, 05:51 PM
Would be interested in reading the full op ed to make my own judgements. I get why those responsible would want to take it down online, especially if free, but leaving everyone like myself left with the option of buying a newspaper copy seems to send the message that people want that type of content. It's like those people who start a movement to boycott a film they disagree with, it just gives the film more press and more people pay to go see it.

Manic!
09-07-2019, 07:41 PM
Would be interested in reading the full op ed to make my own judgements. I get why those responsible would want to take it down online, especially if free, but leaving everyone like myself left with the option of buying a newspaper copy seems to send the message that people want that type of content. It's like those people who start a movement to boycott a film they disagree with, it just gives the film more press and more people pay to go see it.

If was Fridays sun. No store is going to be selling it.

eclipseman
09-07-2019, 07:54 PM
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/apology-to-our-readers

StylinRed
09-07-2019, 07:54 PM
It was printed in Saturdays edition but uploaded on Friday to the web


Anyhow here it is in webarchive



https://web.archive.org/web/20190907021958/https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/mark-hecht-ethnic-diversity-harms-a-countrys-social-trust-economic-well-being-argues-professor


Ahh it's another Conservative Islamophobia article

Mark Hecht: Ethnic diversity harms a country's social trust, economic well-being, argues professor
OPINION: Canada should say goodbye to diversity, tolerance and inclusion to rebuild trust in one another and start accepting a new norm for immigration policy — compatibility, cohesion and social trust.

Sometimes they get too much publicity, but can you blame them? The Danes just seem to get things right. But even the Danes can make mistakes.

A decade ago the fundamental belief among Danes toward Muslim immigrants was that these newcomers would see how wonderful Denmark was and naturally want to become Danish as quickly as possible.

This turned out to be naively wrong. At least half of all Muslims polled across various western European countries believe today that their Shariah law is more important than national law, according to the Gatestone Institute. In other words, a not insignificant proportion of Muslim immigrants have no intention of assimilating into any western society, including Denmark.

Danes have pushed back. Losing the integrity of their society — one of the best in the world by all measures — was on the line. Requirements to obtain citizenship increased. A new insistence that immigrant children go to Danish public schools instead of religious schools was implemented. Social benefits were rescinded for those who didn’t comply. This was only the beginning. But the Danes are not alone.

Many western nations assumed that increasing ethnic and cultural diversity through immigration would be beneficial. The dogma of diversity, tolerance and inclusion assumed that all members of the society wanted to be included as equal citizens. Yet, instead of diversity being a blessing, many found that they’ve ended up with a lot of arrogant people living in their countries with no intention of letting go of their previous cultures, animosities, preferences, and pretensions.

Let’s give the devil his due. Diversity, tolerance and inclusion was actually a commendable perspective. It assumed the dominant society was leaving people out of full participation.

It was a valid critique. In response to inequalities, real or otherwise, measures were taken that would include everyone. Affirmative action, political correctness and anti-bias training became the tools for inculcating tolerance and inclusion. Helpful? Somewhat. Yet, the most important question was overlooked: What if some did not actually want to be included?

Denmark recognized this problem long ago, and is now finding practical solutions. It knows what it was — a country that worked very well when it was homogeneous, where everyone wanted to be and was a part of the society. They spoke the same language, understood the same customs and traditions, and held the same beliefs. The result was that people trusted each other and the economy flourished.

In fact, social trust corresponds more closely than any other factor to predicting economic prosperity. Harvard economists Alberto Alesina and co-authors from a paper titled, Fractionalization, argued that greater diversity leads to stunted economic growth. In other words, diversity is a weakness as far as the economy is concerned.

In 1981 The World Values Survey began an investigation into cross-cultural beliefs, values and motivations, and has since shown that societies with high social trust are not only more economically productive but also happier. The most successful are homogeneous countries, not the diverse ones.

Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia is always at the top of those rankings. They, shine a beacon on the fact that trust is what makes society great. Interestingly, Scandinavian countries are becoming even more trusting. Canada, Great Britain, the U.S. and Australia are all going in the opposite direction. In Canada, we are becoming less trusting of one other.

If a society wants high social trust and the benefits of stability, productivity, and happiness, there are apparently two factors that stand out. According to macrosociology researcher Jan Delhey at Otto von Geuricke University in Magdeburg, Germany — Protestantism and low ethnic diversity — are the top two criteria.

Setting aside the part about Protestantism, low ethnic diversity as a single factor fits Denmark, Japan and Hungary quite well. Social trust is, unsurprisingly, relatively high in all. But not all those countries are Protestant. There are other factors at work.

So is it possible for a country to have diversity and social trust at the same time?

Studies by researchers Hooghe, Reeskens and Stolle in a 2008 paper indicate that ethnic diversity in and of itself is not inherently destabilizing, at a national level. A country can indeed have multiple ethnicities and still have high social trust. But there is a catch.

It is at the neighbourhood scale where high ethnic diversity erodes trust, according to researchers Peter Thisted Dinesson and Kim Mannemar Sønderskov from 2015. The more direct the interaction with diversity, the more social trust drops. This accounts for why people segregate themselves into ethnic enclaves. People like to be around others who are the same as them. Those overwhelmed by newcomers that are not like themselves, lose trust and soon move out.

This is quite a paradox. Diversity at a national level does not necessarily erode trust but at the neighbourhood level it does. How can this be?

Switzerland is a good example of this paradox in action. With four recognized ethnicities — German, French, Italian and Romansh — they also have high levels of social trust. How? It’s simple. Each ethnicity has its own geography and government. It does not mix ethnicities, nor does one try to control the others.

If a country wants diversity, expect enclaves to form. This may work out fine in the long run, as it has in Switzerland. Or it may turn into a bloody mess, as it repeatedly does in the Balkans. The other option is low diversity.

Denmark had the latter. It worked well. Now, it wants it back again and that will require its immigrants to integrate. Those who don’t will have to leave.

So, is excluding certain people from one’s society a requirement? The short answer is absolutely. The long and more reasonable answer is if you do let people into your country then make sure they hold similar values — compatibility. Make sure they want to fit into your society fully and completely — cohesion. With these two requirements satisfied, and with a sprinkle of Protestantism, the country will be well on its way to generating high levels of social trust.

Can Canada learn from Denmark? The jury is out. But the minimum requirement is that we say goodbye to diversity, tolerance and inclusion if we wish to be a society that can rebuild the trust we used to have in one another and start accepting a new norm for immigration policy — compatibility, cohesion and social trust.

Mark Hecht teaches human, political, and conservation geography at Mount Royal University in Calgary and has written extensively on issues of national identity and resource conflict.

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320icar
09-07-2019, 08:46 PM
Wow that was way more ‘racist’ than I was expecting

320icar
09-07-2019, 08:49 PM
Wow that was way more ‘racist’ than I was expecting

fliptuner
09-07-2019, 09:29 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/vSc5gBhd4uZzy/giphy.gif

Jmac
09-07-2019, 09:44 PM
Man, even managed to go back to 19th century racism.

Bouncing Bettys
09-07-2019, 10:46 PM
Could someone please outline what is beleived to be outright racism in the article? If you could lay it out, as if explaining it to relatively socially progressive, fiscally conservative folks who would never vote Trudeau, that would be helpful.

StylinRed
09-07-2019, 11:08 PM
He says u can't trust people of other cultures, unless they're fully assimilated to your culture/wanting to be... or if they're protestants.

He says a country can't succeed unless this is true.

Basically, immigrants must be Christian, completely forget their culture, and adopt a new one fully, no adding anything because yuck we don't trust that shiet, or else we're all doooomed doooomed I tell you!

SkinnyPupp
09-07-2019, 11:12 PM
It's tricky when it comes to people who think sharia law takes precedent over a country's law... I think most people here know where I stand on racism, acceptance, etc.

But man, it's something you need to talk about without instantly screaming "RACIST"

Bouncing Bettys
09-07-2019, 11:26 PM
Okay, but I'm a 9th gen Canadian/United Empire Loyalist raised atheist (My ancestors literally came from the UK(Ireland/Scotland/Wales and according to Manic, were massive pieces of shit on par with Hitler) and fled the eventual USA), yet I have no problem feeling included by a supposed Christian society. I guess I had to once endure the Lord's Prayer in grade 1 because my teacher was some sort of Christian and stiffer separation of Church and State didn't come in until the very next school year, but I didn't convert or feel compelled to at any point. My best memories of that school year involve myself and a Hindu classmate making faces at each other and drawing boobies while the rest of the class recited. What a racist concept to believe the best candidates as immigrants should want to adopt Canadian ideals and traditions.

StylinRed
09-08-2019, 12:32 AM
Adopting ideals and traditions of your new home is completely different than saying "you must adopt fully, and cannot hold onto anything of Ur past, because that makes u untrustworthy"It's tricky when it comes to people who think sharia law takes precedent over a country's law... I think most people here know where I stand on racism, acceptance, etc.

But man, it's something you need to talk about without instantly screaming "RACIST"

We allow faith based mediation in Canada, and it works for those who agree to it.

But to say your faith makes u untrustworthy, because it's not Christian, and it's going to doom the country is just well.... Bigotry
Oh wait he's also saying races should stick with their own races, so... He's also being racist

SkinnyPupp
09-08-2019, 01:52 AM
I don't expect anyone to adopt any traditions they don't want. Go to the Stampede on the weekend, or stay at home praying all day, I don't care.

You can be christian, buddhist, muslim, or anything or nothing in between.

However if you believe in a doctrine that harms other people, that's a potential issue.

MG1
09-08-2019, 06:28 AM
It was printed in Saturdays edition but uploaded on Friday to the web


Anyhow here it is in webarchive



https://web.archive.org/web/20190907021958/https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/mark-hecht-ethnic-diversity-harms-a-countrys-social-trust-economic-well-being-argues-professor


Ahh it's another Conservative Islamophobia article

I don't agree 100% with what this guy is saying, but I don't see why people are upset by it. And, it's opinion. Thankfully, we can, in this country, decide for ourselves how to react to such articles.


Just saiyan..............

Also, how hard is it to become a citizen of, let's say, china, japan, korea? Just wAndering.

whitev70r
09-08-2019, 07:24 AM
Yah, same. I might not agree with a person's opinion but isn't that what democracy is all about? Everyone that presents an opposing view to the liberal progressive view is labelled as hate speech, racist. Let people use their intelligence to decide for themselves. We don't need thought police.

320icar
09-08-2019, 08:17 AM
Yah, same. I might not agree with a person's opinion but isn't that what democracy is all about? Everyone that presents an opposing view to the liberal progressive view is labelled as hate speech, racist. Let people use their intelligence to decide for themselves. We don't need thought police.

Don’t you thank every pro-China post in the HK protest thread?

welfare
09-08-2019, 08:59 AM
Isn't it ironic that in demanding the article be silenced, how many times greater the level of publicity it's received.
Mr. Hecht really owes a debt of gratitude to the mob of tolerance.

However inadvertently, seems cancel culture could be used as quite the little marketing tool.
Honest question: has anybody here ever tried chick-fil-a? If so, how does it rank?
Reveal yourself, you bigots!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/chik-fil-a-toronto-opening-1.5273381

AstulzerRZD
09-08-2019, 09:01 AM
Isn't it ironic that in demanding the article be silenced, how many times greater the level of publicity it's received.
Mr. Hecht really owes a debt of gratitude to the mob of tolerance.

However inadvertently, seems cancel culture could be used as quite the little marketing tool.
Honest question: has anybody here ever tried chick-fil-a? If so, how does it rank?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/chik-fil-a-toronto-opening-1.5273381

I like the Chik Fil A sauce - it's like a smoky honey mustard with some ranch mixed in. The fried chicken has good flavor and tenderness, as does their grilled chicken.

GS8
09-08-2019, 12:07 PM
If I don't like black rice, does that make me ricist?

Jmac
09-08-2019, 12:38 PM
If I don't like black rice, does that make me ricist?
If you advocate that the country should be as homogeneous (white, protestant) as possible and segregate what little diversity does exist, yes.

welfare
09-08-2019, 07:27 PM
If I don't like black rice, does that make me ricist?

https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a9P6K3K_700b.jpg

fliptuner
09-10-2019, 10:28 PM
https://youtu.be/LxlMVRFvAzM