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CharlesInCharge
11-07-2019, 09:52 AM
I need vitamin d and omega 3 fats. I still dont trust the radiation levels for fish caught on BC's coast, nor aware of fresh water lake fish being sold locally.

I usually buy New Brunswick sardines, but the quality has gone down. They recently added a 'steaks' cuts version of the same product that I found at Dollarama, which is a little tastier, but still not great.
I tried sardines from Poland from the same store and they were good but I dont trust that countries regulations.
https://i.imgur.com/ekuByKG.jpg


Yesterday I ate Dollarama $1.50 Chinese (claimed wild caught) mackerel and $3 Portuguese sardines from Commercial drive and both were good. But I wonder if anyone has any insight on how contaminated the Chinese version could be since Im looking to switch to that at its incredible price for value.
https://i.imgur.com/Ki21egM.jpg

Top 10 most Vitamin D rich foods
https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/top-10-most-vitamin-d-rich-foods/
Salmon and mackerel 100g: 470
https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/4/2018/08/untitled-2-c530f80.jpg?quality=90&resize=556,370


Tinned sardines 100g: 270
https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/4/2018/08/untitled-3-ce3af82.jpg?quality=90&resize=556,370

Badhobz
11-07-2019, 09:57 AM
Lawl!!!!!

That’s all chuck.

320icar
11-07-2019, 10:02 AM
You could just take a supplement

CharlesInCharge
11-07-2019, 10:07 AM
Supplements dont work... even cod liver oil has its problems.
Lawl!!!!!

That’s all chuck.:p
Do tell us where you source your omega 3 and vit d.

Badhobz
11-07-2019, 11:13 AM
Omega 3 from eggs and vitamin d from sunlight and nuts.
Also I eat a shit load of salmon.

CharlesInCharge
11-07-2019, 11:26 AM
Nuts nor the low UV sunlight were getting now give vitamin D... just the salmon.

Fortified omega 3 eggs? Its like taking a pill to get your fats, I dont trust it and it also may fill up your 'fat channels' rather then let real fats get sourced when supplied. The question: Are omega-3 eggs really better than regular eggs? Or is this just a marketing gimmick?


The Answer: Eggs labelled "omega-3" do contain these fats, which many people associate with good health. But depending on which brand you buy, they might not have the type of omega-3 fat that's linked to brain and heart health. And the actual amount of omega-3 fat might be considerably less than you think.

inv4zn
11-07-2019, 12:54 PM
So...you don't trust Polish regulations but do trust Chinese regulations??

Also, if you're gonna quote random snippets, make sure you read the whole article. The remaining 80% of the article which you conveniently left out then says they are fine.


The question: Are omega-3 eggs really better than regular eggs? Or is this just a marketing gimmick?

The Answer: Eggs labelled "omega-3" do contain these fats, which many people associate with good health. But depending on which brand you buy, they might not have the type of omega-3 fat that's linked to brain and heart health. And the actual amount of omega-3 fat might be considerably less than you think.

Eggs can be fortified with two different omega-3 fatty acids: DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) and ALA (alpha linolenic acid). DHA is found in oily fish like salmon, trout and sardines. It's crucial for the proper development and maintenance of brain cells. Higher intakes of DHA and EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid), the other omega-3 fatty acid in oily fish, are also thought to guard against heart disease.

ALA is plentiful in flaxseed, flax oil, chia seeds, hemp oil, walnuts and walnut oil. It's also found in canola oil and soybeans. Some studies suggest that higher intakes of ALA are protective against heart disease. However, the evidence for ALA's heart benefits is less convincing since it hasn't been studied as extensively as DHA.

Omega-3 eggs are produced by hens fed a diet containing flaxseed. When the hens digest the flax, some of the ALA gets broken down into DHA and both fatty acids transfer to the yolk. One omega-3 egg typically contains 340 milligrams of ALA and 75 to 100 milligrams of DHA.

Some companies also add fish oil to the chicken's feed to further increase the DHA content of egg yolks. GoldEgg Omega Choice, for example, provides 130 mg of DHA an egg.

There is no official recommended intake for DHA and EPA. Many experts recommend a daily intake of 1,000 mg of DHA + EPA (combined) for heart health. Eating an omega-3 egg each day will deliver only a fraction of this amount.

Sure, you could eat two or three eggs at a sitting to get more DHA. But let's not forget about the cholesterol. Omega-3 eggs have just as much as regular eggs – 195 mg of cholesterol per large egg yolk. Since consuming too much cholesterol can increase LDL (bad) blood cholesterol, we're advised to limit our intake to less than 300 mg a day. (If you have heart disease, your daily cholesterol intake should not exceed 200 mg.)

You're better off sticking to fatty fish to get DHA into your diet. Consider that six ounces of salmon contains roughly 3,600 mg of DHA + EPA. Eat this serving once a week and you'll get 514 mg DHA + EPA a day (the math: 3,600 divided by 7 days = 514 mg a day); two six-ounce servings of salmon a week provide 1,028 mg a day.

Omega-3 eggs are a good source of ALA. Since ALA is an essential fatty acid – it must be obtained from food because the body can't produce it – there is a daily requirement for it. Adult women need 1,100 mg a day and men require 1,600 mg. One omega-3 egg supplies 20 to 30 per cent of a day's worth of ALA.

The bottom line: Depending on your diet, you might not need to pay extra for omega-3 eggs. If oily fish is a regular part of your diet or you take a fish-oil supplement, eating an omega-3 egg now and again won't do much to boost your DHA intake. If ground flax (2 tablespoons = 2,400 mg ALA), chia seeds (2 tbsp whole seeds = 3,600 mg) or walnuts (seven halves = 1,280 mg) are a daily staple, you're covered for ALA.

HonestTea
11-07-2019, 12:57 PM
https://dailyhomecooks.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/yj-fried-dace-with-black-bean-184gm.png?w=504&h=1&crop=1

Traum
11-07-2019, 02:21 PM
Legit good stuff. Nevermind the malachite green, which has been accused of being carcinogenic...
https://dailyhomecooks.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/yj-fried-dace-with-black-bean-184gm.png?w=504&h=1&crop=1

Badhobz
11-07-2019, 02:29 PM
Classic. Where is my fermented bean curd to go with that shit.
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6793026
11-07-2019, 02:37 PM
https://dailyhomecooks.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/yj-fried-dace-with-black-bean-184gm.png?w=504&h=1&crop=1

didn't they ban this in Van? there are alternate ones but not this exact one from a few years ago.

Alby
11-07-2019, 02:43 PM
oh god i can just eat bowls and bowls of rice with just the preserved bean curd and the black bean canned fish

Mr.HappySilp
11-07-2019, 02:49 PM
https://dailyhomecooks.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/yj-fried-dace-with-black-bean-184gm.png?w=504&h=1&crop=1

There are so expensive now!

Nlkko
11-07-2019, 03:36 PM
T&T sell those sardines can with spicy tomatoes sauce. Heat and pour over rice. :sweetjesus:

Badhobz
11-07-2019, 03:45 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zX73dZhC/8-A91-ACD4-4-F5-C-41-D6-AD73-3-D1680064690.jpg

MG1
11-07-2019, 04:17 PM
https://www.born3.com

Costco


Owned and operated by a good Abbotsford farmer/family. Frank is an awesome guy. His family, too.


Also, Alaskan canned salmon okay for you? They go on sale often.

MG1
11-07-2019, 04:24 PM
As for mackerel, buy frozen from Korean places. Norwegian Mackerel is best.

https://seafoodfromnorway.us/learn-more/seafood-encyclopedia/mackerel/

Canned Mackerel

https://www.google.com/search?q=ligo+mackerel+made+in+Japan&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=JoaXad6Um371BM%253A%252CQYZ6nhC8v2qVzM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRpiMfAeNObUnnfnWeGXwCXBlsUvA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU-I3qudnlAhVZITQIHfHaCwkQ9QEwDHoECAMQBg#imgrc=JoaXad 6Um371BM:


They carry them at No Frills. The Made in Japan ones, anyway.


as for baller omega-3, go buy some caviar..............

Raid3n
11-07-2019, 04:30 PM
lol ... doesn't trust bc fish on the other side of the ocean from fukushima... but trusts chinese fish sourced from even closer to fukushima.... :fulloffuck:

Hondaracer
11-07-2019, 06:16 PM
https://www.born3.com

Costco


Owned and operated by a good Abbotsford farmer/family. Frank is an awesome guy. His family, too.


Also, Alaskan canned salmon okay for you? They go on sale often.

Used to eat the born3 eggs but now I stick to the Costco branded organic eggs, just taste better IMO.

StylinRed
11-07-2019, 06:24 PM
There's like this polish canned herring, can't remember the name of it, but was really tasty too hmm haven't had canned fishies in ages

Canned sockeye hasn't tasted good for awhile now, not sure if they're doing something different with it, or my tastes have changed

Mancini
11-07-2019, 09:02 PM
I like vegetables.

danned
11-07-2019, 09:31 PM
they are freaking great and good

MG1
11-08-2019, 02:23 AM
There's like this polish canned herring, can't remember the name of it, but was really tasty too hmm haven't had canned fishies in ages

Canned sockeye hasn't tasted good for awhile now, not sure if they're doing something different with it, or my tastes have changed

Probably because they don't can BC Wild Sockeye anymore. It's all salmon from Alaska now. Custom canned wild BC Sockeye Salmon is available at specialty stores and at farmers markets, but the really good stuff is no longer available for the masses. I used to work at a fish processing plant and I got to purchase No. 1, export grade canned sockeye salmon. You open up one of those babies and the fish was bright red with lots of orange/red oil floating on top. My favourite parts were the bones, skin, and the fat layer just under the skin. Soy sauce and daikon oroshi (freshly grated radish) over hot steaming rice.......... no words to describe it. Also, sandwich made with drained canned salmon mixed with mayo and relish. Fresh lettuce to keep the fish from soaking into the bread.

My wife's specialty was candied salmon and salmon jerky. To die for. All this was readily available until the wild stocks started to dwindle. Don't get me started on why. My father was a commercial fisherman and he saw it coming years before it happened. It wasn't due to over fishing. It was government ignorance.

StylinRed
11-08-2019, 02:44 AM
Probably because they don't can BC Wild Sockeye anymore. It's all salmon from Alaska now. Custom canned wild BC Sockeye Salmon is available at specialty stores and at farmers markets, but the really good stuff is no longer available for the masses. I used to work at a fish processing plant and I got to purchase No. 1, export grade canned sockeye salmon. You open up one of those babies and the fish was bright red with lots of orange/red oil floating on top. My favourite parts were the bones, skin, and the fat layer just under the skin. Soy sauce and daikon oroshi (freshly grated radish) over hot steaming rice.......... no words to describe it. Also, sandwich made with drained canned salmon mixed with mayo and relish. Fresh lettuce to keep the fish from soaking into the bread.

My wife's specialty was candied salmon and salmon jerky. To die for. All this was readily available until the wild stocks started to dwindle. Don't get me started on why. My father was a commercial fisherman and he saw it coming years before it happened. It wasn't due to over fishing. It was government ignorance.

this exactly, my elderly neighbour used to give us canned salmon, she worked at a cannery too, and the ones she provided were amazing, she retired when I was still a kid though. But I still enjoyed the canned salmon that I got from the store, until several years ago, where the colour looked more like pink salmon, and the water? was just that...water.

I loved just eating it with a bowl of rice, or making sandwiches, but it doesn't have the same taste anymore. :/

So, where can I get my hands on the good stuff? do I have to go to the states, international airports? whheerrrrreeeeee

MG1
11-08-2019, 07:48 AM
Our cannery took custom orders, but a minimum had to be met (minimum as in a lot of fish). It took some time to make sure things were done right and not lost in the shuffle. Things like, can codes, inspections from DFO, dedicating a line to the batch of fish, etc.

Anyway, here's a pace that can do small orders, by the sounds of it. You supply the fish and they process it. I'm not sure how good they are and what kind of rating they have with the DFO, but there they are.

https://www.stjeans.com/sport-fishermen/getting-fish-st-jeans/

There are no big canneries left in the Lower Mainland. BC Packers, Cassiar, Ocean's, Canfisco, they're all gone. They're all up north or in Alaska. Jim Pattison Group bought out all the competitors.

If it's too much trouble, can your own. It's really not that hard. My mom used to do it all the time. My father would bring home the best of the best caught sockeye home. So fresh it had rigor mortis and you could sword fight with it, lol. You prepare the fish and jar it like you would jams and preserves. Mason Jars. You just have to be ultra careful to make sure it is sealed properly and cooked at the right temperature and for the right time. Burnt is not good, but undercooked can be a whole lot dangerous - food poisoning of the worst kind.

On a side note Salmonella has nothing to do with salmon, lol. It was discovered by a scientist/biologist named Salmon.

Hondaracer
11-08-2019, 08:27 AM
The problem with anywhere that you take fish or game to be processed is how much do you trust them. This has been a long standing problem with game meat etc. Especially when you’ve got some amazing elk etc. Do you know you’re getting back the same meat you dropped off?

MG1
11-08-2019, 08:36 AM
Which is why make your own is bestest.

Amazing elk goes to their family, while you get someone else's. Can't find an opportunity to use elk in a humourous way.............. too early for a quick quip. Could have used ilk in there....... oh wells. Counting on Flip or Glow to come through for me.



https://eaglenook.com/2019/03/07/how-to-can-salmon/



........just say no to the vinegar.

CP.AR
11-08-2019, 09:07 AM
CiC is still hanging out RS?
what in the flying fuck?

yray
11-08-2019, 09:31 AM
CiC is still hanging out RS?
what in the flying fuck?

he keeps RS alive

Hondaracer
11-08-2019, 11:01 AM
Which is why make your own is bestest.

Amazing elk goes to their family, while you get someone else's. Can't find an opportunity to use elk in a humourous way.............. too early for a quick quip. Could have used ilk in there....... oh wells. Counting on Flip or Glow to come through for me.



https://eaglenook.com/2019/03/07/how-to-can-salmon/



........just say no to the vinegar.

Way too much work to make sausage or Jerky with hundreds of Pounds of meat

pastarocket
11-08-2019, 12:16 PM
Hey CiC, you should eat canned Chinese fish during the holidays instead of turkey.

:troll:

CharlesInCharge
11-08-2019, 12:57 PM
Im actually not a fan of turkey, just might do that.
So...you don't trust Polish regulations but do trust Chinese regulations??

Also, if you're gonna quote random snippets, make sure you read the whole article. The remaining 80% of the article which you conveniently left out then says they are fine. There are western puppet oligarchs in Taiwan, Honk Kong, and Singapore... western companies like Walmart and Dollorama prefer to choose their own spawns out of these places to use cheap labour and make profits out of shell companies in China. The government of China cant be everywhere all the time to see if these occultist arent abusing the system.

Europe is garbage too... selling cancer risk horse meat for who knows how many decade. They steal fish from African seas while the continent is starving in some places and claim it as their own fish.

Lastly if youre going to claim that mainstream news article are the holy truth, its better not to eat fats in the first place for fear of cholesterol. Western media have brainwashed half the planet for an early death to keep the wheels of industry and world domination in full motion.

https://dailyhomecooks.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/yj-fried-dace-with-black-bean-184gm.png?w=504&h=1&crop=1

Maybe i'll buy the bean stuff separate and try... I see that the Chinese government stepped in initially for the banned antifungal... I dont want this stuff to accumulate in my body if its still being used and it has mysterious spices which I suspect of being msg.
If its water alone or in olive oil I would try it.
https://pomaitest.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/fried-dace-with-salted-black-beans/

Too many problems in my life to make my own Kimchi, but I pair that with homemade sauerkraut and it goes great with fish.

https://www.born3.com

Costco


Owned and operated by a good Abbotsford farmer/family. Frank is an awesome guy. His family, too.


Also, Alaskan canned salmon okay for you? They go on sale often. The best tasting eggs I found are the Golden brand... the yolk is also really dark which Im thinking has as good supply of much needed sulphur.
I would not rely on new egg advances for a proper omega 3 source.
https://i.imgur.com/Eny8yLf.jpg

Alaskan Salmon must be over $8 for a small can... too rich for my blood.

As for mackerel, buy frozen from Korean places. Norwegian Mackerel is best.

https://seafoodfromnorway.us/learn-more/seafood-encyclopedia/mackerel/

. Frozen is superior to canned but I believe Norway has some of the worlds dirtiest fish due to the massive fish farms they operate.
Will keep an eye out for frozen Mackerel though, thanks.

Korean neighbourhoods in purple.
https://i.imgur.com/kEoBI43.jpg

CharlesInCharge
11-08-2019, 01:24 PM
There's like this polish canned herring, can't remember the name of it, but was really tasty too hmm haven't had canned fishies in ages

Canned sockeye hasn't tasted good for awhile now, not sure if they're doing something different with it, or my tastes have changed I think its smoked/dried herring (without packaging) that was being sold at the following Euro store in downtown some months back... they had a few like that. It was delicious but its sourced from Ontario. That places is industrial cancer city, I passed on it.
https://i.imgur.com/kLqx2J5.jpg


lol ... doesn't trust bc fish on the other side of the ocean from fukushima... but trusts chinese fish sourced from even closer to fukushima.... :fulloffuck:
The more you know...
https://i.imgur.com/tKdyehT.jpg


... Don't get me started on why. My father was a commercial fisherman and he saw it coming years before it happened. It wasn't due to over fishing. It was government ignorance.
Far past the ages of Darwinism why would the intellectual empire eradicate north American Bison? because it was free food that couldnt be controlled.

Badhobz
11-08-2019, 02:02 PM
Chuck you’re fucking awesome. I just love your crazy shit.

CP.AR
11-09-2019, 06:53 AM
its actually quite a breath of fresh air to see someone thinking outside le box

MG1
11-09-2019, 11:00 AM
Good Seal Wild Sardines in “easy open” cans on sale at No Frills. They’re from Thailand. $1.00 each can. Not bad price for shit from non chinar source.

I’m at the Broadway location. The one near Cambie.


Thinking of you, CiC.

Mr.Money
11-09-2019, 07:20 PM
i use to eat those canned smoked oysters till i found out there from china :heckno: ...so damn tasty on top of bread crackers.
is there any canned Canadian brands?,or somewhere cleaner than china with its fucking smog infested air,& the chinese people there prob don't even eat it themselves there.

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 08:36 AM
Thanks MG1, but Thailand is still run by a western puppet regime so the standards cant be trusted. A recent documentary showcases Burma refugees being forced into slavery with slow workers and ones trying to escape put to death in a mass grave by a county police station (authorities involved).

I bought a bag full of the same fish but this time they also had sardines too. Although it tasted better then the New Brunswick brand It doesnt state that its wild like the mackerel, so I will not be getting that type in the future.

https://i.imgur.com/1lgKhbn.jpg

mikemhg
11-11-2019, 11:28 AM
^^^ My god you're an odd duck, I love it.

Badhobz
11-11-2019, 11:56 AM
Chuck, that much oil plus watery fish = splatter city. Becareful with that shit

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 12:13 PM
For sure... the sardines came with sunflower oil, which I dumped to use my own ... but with the mackerel I used half the water this last time. Theres fat in the water so I dont know if the fish were precooked in it and if it has good nutrients... will taste alone next time to see if i should cook with it.

This week Im having a bit of lambs feets, full of collagen and fat, in the mornings and plan to eat fish at nights to overall boost my brain power.

yray
11-11-2019, 12:27 PM
try some fish maw

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 12:47 PM
Looks like a lot of work to make the sauces from scratch as I never buy bottled stuff for the fear of MSG thats in everything.
Sounds delicious though.
Fish maw is dried fish air bladder. Rated as one of the precious Chinese ingredients along with abalone & sea cucumber, fish maw is very nutritious and is also full of collagen. Best of all, it’s free of cholesterol. Many Chinese believe that consuming fish maw will help improve their complexion.

Despite its name, sea cucumber is actually not a plant. They are marine animals and are found on the sea floor worldwide. Although the Chinese has long considered sea cucumber as a delicacy, it is only in the recent years that science has validated their health benefits effects. Sea cucumber has shown therapeutic values such as wound healing and anti-cancer. youtube.com/watch?v=bPVnQMfp9xM