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: Don Cherry fired!!!


Manic!
11-11-2019, 11:20 AM
https://www.cp24.com/news/sportsnet-fires-don-cherry-over-you-people-comment-targeting-immigrants-1.4680224

Longtime hockey commentator Don Cherry has been fired from his role at Coach’s Corner over his comments last Saturday targeting migrants who he said did not properly honour Canada’s veterans, broadcaster Sportsnet confirmed Monday.

On his program on Saturday, Cherry said that new immigrants in his hometown of Mississauga don’t wear poppies around Remembrance Day.

Finally.

Hondaracer
11-11-2019, 11:32 AM
Respecting the poppy, oh hell no!

Leading a country, dressing up in black face, lying numerous times, commiting criminal acts, handing terrorists millions of dollars, oh hell ya!

Badhobz
11-11-2019, 11:53 AM
He isn't wrong. Sportnet should be ashamed of themselves for firing him.

Jmac
11-11-2019, 11:55 AM
Firing him on Remembrance Day is bullshit. Everyone knows Don cares more about veterans than anyone and to do it on the National Holiday dearest to him, which also distracts attention away from the vets we’re supposed to be honouring today, is just the kind of garbage I’d expect from a scum company like Rogers.

Manic!
11-11-2019, 11:58 AM
Respecting the poppy, oh hell no!

Leading a country, dressing up in black face, lying numerous times, commiting criminal acts, handing terrorists millions of dollars, oh hell ya!

He apologized for black face. Cherry didn't and this is not the first time he has done this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfkRRgLgyt8

Also who is not respecting the poppy?

Hondaracer
11-11-2019, 12:03 PM
Cherry is an idiot and hasn’t been relevant for a long time

However, in the same breathe there has not been a public figure who has been a bigger proponent for veterans and the armed forces in general. On a nightly basis he has been honouring the fallen who have made the ultimate sacrifice for DECADES

What an absolute slap in the face and the ultimate show of caving to the cancel culture SJW to fire him ON REMEMBRANCE DAY! God, what a disgusting misstep by SN.

Also, you taking JT at his word as an “apology” is golden. You mean when he apologized for the first black face? Or the second? Or when he ended up forgetting all together how many times he did it? Or when he lied about SNC? Or that other lie about the Jodie wilson thing?

We hold Cherry to tells people to respect the poppy in a 10 second segment in higher standard than our prime minister? Jesus Christ

quasi
11-11-2019, 12:07 PM
He's said so many stupid things over the years I'm actually surprised he's lasted this long. This is a good thing for him, he should enjoy the time he has left doing other things not work related.

pastarocket
11-11-2019, 12:11 PM
Terrible timing of a bad decision by SN.

Although I think Cherry's relevance in today's NHL was gone a long time ago, he honoured the brave men and woman who sacrificed in WW1 and WW2 for Canada through his platform on HNIC.

Did he use a bad choice of words "You people" in his rant? :considered:


Weak ass move by Rogers to fire the guy on Remembrance Day. :facepalm:

Manic!
11-11-2019, 12:17 PM
Cherry is an idiot and hasn’t been relevant for a long time

However, in the same breathe there has not been a public figure who has been a bigger proponent for veterans and the armed forces in general. On a nightly basis he has been honouring the fallen who have made the ultimate sacrifice for DECADES

What an absolute slap in the face and the ultimate show of caving to the cancel culture SJW to fire him ON REMEMBRANCE DAY! God, what a disgusting misstep by SN.

Also, you taking JT at his word as an “apology” is golden. You mean when he apologized for the first black face? Or the second? Or when he ended up forgetting all together how many times he did it? Or when he lied about SNC? Or that other lie about the Jodie wilson thing?

We hold Cherry to tells people to respect the poppy in a 10 second segment in higher standard than our prime minister? Jesus Christ

When athletes talk about social issues people tell them to stick to sports, look what happened Colin kaepernick. cherry is/was a hockey commentator and should of stuck to just talking about hockey on coaches corner.

Bouncing Bettys
11-11-2019, 12:18 PM
The people at Sportsnet and CBC before it, who fought to preserve Canadian institutions like Don and Coach's Corner and HNIC are no longer with those organizations. They have all been replaced by PC-minded shills. They would gladly throw Don/Coach's Corner/HNIC and any other tradition in the trash and replace it with cost effective, bland programming like the History Channel's downfall. They type of people who don't wear a poppy and couldn't give two shits about the sacrifices of soldiers.

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 12:38 PM
Sports are one of many integral parts in brainwashing a new world order... cant have immigrant commoners feel singled out and be turned off from it or have them discourage their children from it.

Manic!
11-11-2019, 12:45 PM
Out of the last 20 customers all old stock Canadians only 3 have had a poppy. Talking to another customer he said cherry was kind of right. Then I point out that he is not wearing a poppy but the Asian outside getting air is.

The problem with the poppy is that their are not that many veterans left. Before poppies where sold everywhere but now they are harder to find. We use to have old customer that would bring in poppies for us to sell but he died.

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 12:51 PM
Where does Canadian charity money go anyway... everything is pooled to finance its colonial mother and black ops like in Venezuela and Syria as of late.

Bouncing Bettys
11-11-2019, 12:56 PM
https://twitter.com/SpencerFernando/status/1193992227267198976

Manic!
11-11-2019, 12:57 PM
Where does Canadian charity money go anyway... everything is pooled to finance its colonial mother and black ops like in Venezuela and Syria as of late.

It goes to the legion.

Manic!
11-11-2019, 12:59 PM
https://twitter.com/SpencerFernando/status/1193992227267198976

Spencer fernando? FailFish get that trash out of here.

hud 91gt
11-11-2019, 01:00 PM
If he knew he was on his way out, I wish he made a comment about the rainbow poppies the LBTQ community was talking about.

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 01:04 PM
It goes to the legion.Kind of like how Canadian taxes get spent in Canada? Dont believe everything you read.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jnf-charity-donations-1.4949072

Manic!
11-11-2019, 01:19 PM
If he knew he was on his way out, I wish he made a comment about the rainbow poppies the LBTQ community was talking about.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/11/08/upset-about-the-rainbow-poppy-youve-been-duped-by-fake-news/

Posts online are stirring up outrage, suggesting the LGBTQ+ community is pushing an alternative to the traditional poppy. The original, red poppy, worn to commemorate veterans in the lead-up to Remembrance Day, appears to be redone, with each petal a different colour.

But claims the new poppy is widespread are false

Social media expert Susie Parker says people need to be more critical about what they read and share online.
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Manic!
11-11-2019, 01:20 PM
Kind of like how Canadian taxes get spent in Canada? Dont believe everything you read.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jnf-charity-donations-1.4949072

the legion is not run by the government. Maybe you should visit a legion sometime.

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 01:25 PM
Do you have facts to back that up? Whose bank account does all the world war charity money get funnelled into?

inb4 the legions bank account.

snowball
11-11-2019, 01:26 PM
Out of the last 20 customers all old stock Canadians only 3 have had a poppy. Talking to another customer he said cherry was kind of right. Then I point out that he is not wearing a poppy but the Asian outside getting air is.

The problem with the poppy is that their are not that many veterans left. Before poppies where sold everywhere but now they are harder to find. We use to have old customer that would bring in poppies for us to sell but he died.

I was at Metrotown on Saturday and only 10% of the people were wearing a poppy. Of the few poppies I did see, more "visible minorities" were wearing them than "stereotypical Canadian looking folk" (interpret that as you wish).

So yeah, it's disappointing that poppies aren't being worn by the majority but Don Cherry is spreading fake news by implying that #youpeople and immigrants are responsible for this.

CharlesInCharge
11-11-2019, 01:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZftDV6ub5s

pastarocket
11-11-2019, 02:03 PM
What is Sportsnet going to do in terms of the 1st intermission content for HNIC now that Cherry and Coach's Corner is gone? :considered:

Jmac
11-11-2019, 02:23 PM
What is Sportsnet going to do in terms of the 1st intermission content for HNIC now that Cherry and Coach's Corner is gone? :considered:
Burkie’s Corner

punkwax
11-11-2019, 02:27 PM
I have a poppy on my work coat. Wore my hoodie out today and didn’t switch it over. Not everyone you see without a poppy on hasn’t bought one or isn’t thankful for the fallen.

Manic!
11-11-2019, 02:31 PM
I have a poppy on my work coat. Wore my hoodie out today and didn’t switch it over. Not everyone you see without a poppy on hasn’t bought one or isn’t thankful for the fallen.

Does that also apply to new immigrants.


Looks like they found a replacement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38cBNIPnlX4

punkwax
11-11-2019, 02:43 PM
Does that also apply to new immigrants.

Of course it does. I’m not the one counting poppies FailFish

Manic!
11-11-2019, 02:50 PM
Of course it does. I’m not the one counting poppies FailFish

cherry was.

bobbinka
11-11-2019, 03:03 PM
Burkie’s Corner

I'd be okay with that

punkwax
11-11-2019, 03:05 PM
cherry was.

So he was ignorantly judging others.. just like you. Guess you’re a lot alike.

Manic!
11-11-2019, 03:17 PM
So he was ignorantly judging others.. just like you. Guess you’re a lot alike.

You agree that he made an ignorant commit and he should have been fired for not apologising for it

SkinnyPupp
11-11-2019, 03:32 PM
I just find it interesting how conservatives get SUPER offended by blackface... sometimes LUL

If Cherry wants to honor veterans on his hockey intermission show, go ahead. If Cherry wants to rant about immigrants NOT honoring veterans... go ahead, just not on a hockey intermission show.

underscore
11-11-2019, 04:12 PM
Don Cherry is a moron who hasn't been relevant in decades, I'm amazed he wasn't sacked ages ago tbh. It's great to tell people to wear poppies but bitching about "you people" is a stupid way to do it.

spoon.ek9
11-11-2019, 05:06 PM
Don Cherry is a moron who hasn't been relevant in decades, I'm amazed he wasn't sacked ages ago tbh. It's great to tell people to wear poppies but bitching about "you people" is a stupid way to do it.

exactly, he isn't wrong but the way he said his piece was. it's the finger pointing at minorities that got him fired. lots of people don't wear the poppy for a lot of different reasons. it has nothing to do with the race of said persons. If anything, I'd say it's the younger generations who have sort of lost touch with the sacrifices made for our freedoms.

Bouncing Bettys
11-11-2019, 05:25 PM
I just find it interesting how conservatives get SUPER offended by blackface... sometimes LUL

If Cherry wants to honor veterans on his hockey intermission show, go ahead. If Cherry wants to rant about immigrants NOT honoring veterans... go ahead, just not on a hockey intermission show.
Which conservatives have you seen get genuinely offended above and beyond the most common, level-headed, non-partisan reactions to such polictical incorrect things?

When it goes beyond that, it's safe to assume they are adopting the logic and behaviour of their opponent, in order to create equivalencies and point out hypocracy. In the current climate of outrage and cancellation, multiple incidents of blackface should be social/political/career suclicide. Such incidents never seem to have the same outcome depending on who it stands to benefit.

Should also point out that Don never said the word 'immigrants'. Some talk as if he did or as if they know with 100% certainty that he believes immigrants = people of colour.

SkinnyPupp
11-11-2019, 05:40 PM
Which conservatives have you seen get genuinely offended above and beyond the most common, level-headed, non-partisan reactions to such polictical incorrect things?

When it goes beyond that, it's safe to assume they are adopting the logic and behaviour of their opponent, in order to create equivalencies and point out hypocracy. In the current climate of outrage and cancellation, multiple incidents of blackface should be social/political/career suclicide. Such incidents never seem to have the same outcome depending on who it stands to benefit.

Should also point out that Don never said the word 'immigrants'. Some talk as if he did or as if they know with 100% certainty that he believes immigrants = people of colour.
Obviously they're not genuinely offended. That's the point.

What do you want JT to do for doing blackface? He's apologized AFAIK. Do you want him to commit suicide? I don't get why it keeps being brought up, especially in completely unrelated things like Don Cherry being a xenophobic prick.

supafamous
11-11-2019, 05:48 PM
Should also point out that Don never said the word 'immigrants'. Some talk as if he did or as if they know with 100% certainty that he believes immigrants = people of colour.

His words were "You people, you come here, love our way of life, love our milk and honey" and this was right after he refers to how he goes to small town Canada and sees row upon row of poppies and in downtown Toronto he doesn't see them.

I'm pretty sure that when he says "you come here" that he ain't saying white people.

Racist dog whistles have existed for a long time, it doesn't take a specific mention of a race or a profile (immigrants) to know what people like Don are talking about. He talks about small towns, "tradition", the way things used to be, good old farm boys etc. It's about traditional white Canadians. Don's been a xenophobe since the 80's - railing on Russians, Finns, Swedes, etc so is it any surprise he's now picking on people by skin colour? The ones you don't see in small towns but whom you see plenty of in downtown Toronto? The ones who come from another country?

Most of my life I've tolerated the racism directed towards me, my family and my friends who are minorities. Folks like Don Cherry (and the old white lady living across from me who lives across from me who refers to the neighbours as "those filipinos" and "those Vietnamese") have been openly racist since the 80's when I was glued to Hockey Night in Canada. Times have changed and this bullshit needs to stop.

MarkyMark
11-11-2019, 06:02 PM
Obviously they're not genuinely offended. That's the point.

What do you want JT to do for doing blackface? He's apologized AFAIK. Do you want him to commit suicide? I don't get why it keeps being brought up, especially in completely unrelated things like Don Cherry being a xenophobic prick.

Lose his job? Step down? People have had their lives ruined for a lot less these days so what the fuck, let everyone burn.

SkinnyPupp
11-11-2019, 06:15 PM
Lose his job? Step down? People have had their lives ruined for a lot less these days so what the fuck, let everyone burn.
Obviously a lot of people in Canada didn't think it warranted stepping down. People had the chance to FORCE him to step down by electing a different party. They didn't.

So to me the case is pretty much closed. There's no need to keep bringing up a dumb blackface picture, especially in a topic that is about an ACTUAL racist xenophobe who was rightfully fired.

Hondaracer
11-11-2019, 06:22 PM
To me it has moreso to do with accepting a liar, criminal, and pro-terrorist prime ministers actions because he has this tongue in cheek apology as opposed to Cherry who has been a long standing advocate for armed forces and since he stands for what he believes in as opposed to coming out with a forced apology he’s the devil.

It speaks to society as a whole, and public opinion. that’s the comparison in the two

westopher
11-11-2019, 06:28 PM
Pro-terrorist? Come on man. You can't expect people to take you seriously when you say dumb shit like that.
The hyperbole people use for their arguments make their decent points on a topic just become irrelevant.
For the record I think Cherry should have been gone long ago, for his own sake. He's a xenophobic guy who was a ticking time bomb to say something stupid like this that would outrage people justifiably, which is unfortunate, as he was really trying to stand up for one group of Canadians that deserve respect. He did that at the expense of another group of people that also deserve respect.
Every fucking person deserves respect, unless they, as an individual, have done something horrible to negate that.

MarkyMark
11-11-2019, 06:29 PM
Obviously a lot of people in Canada didn't think it warranted stepping down. People had the chance to FORCE him to step down by electing a different party. They didn't.

So to me the case is pretty much closed. There's no need to keep bringing up a dumb blackface picture, especially in a topic that is about an ACTUAL racist xenophobe who was rightfully fired.

That's my point, the PEOPLE of Canada voted on it, not just the loudest goofs who use the internet.

I'm so sick of reading "So and so said this and the internet is OUTRAGED" like the internet is indicative of what the majority of people are thinking.

DragonChi
11-11-2019, 07:14 PM
Oh?

What evidence does Cherry have for saying that immigrants don't buy poppies. It's not about poppies. It's about him saying that immigrants don't give a shit about the armed forces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ISM9JqT728

Guarenteed, if he aplogized, he would still have his job.

Bouncing Bettys
11-11-2019, 07:16 PM
https://twitter.com/JJ_McCullough/status/1194020524655075328
https://twitter.com/JJ_McCullough/status/1194025591021981696

supafamous
11-11-2019, 07:19 PM
https://www.theringer.com/2019/11/11/20960412/don-cherry-fired-sportsnet-hockey-overdue

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/article-times-changed-but-don-cherry-wouldnt/

Two good takes on Don Cherry. tl;dr: he was a racist and has been for a long time and the people in power pretended it wasn't true for as long as they could.

MG1
11-11-2019, 07:48 PM
First of all, I don't like Don Cherry at all.

However, that guy is so pro Canada. So proud to be a Canadian. I respect anyone who has passion about their country like he does.

What he said had nothing to do with poppies.

What he should have said was..........

"You fucking people, you come here, love our way of life, love our milk and honey, take advantage of our healthcare system, protection, etc. etc. etc............... give our veterans some respect. It was because of them, you have this kind of lifestyle."

As for apologizing. What the fuck for? He said what he said and he's sticking to it. He's no chicken shit. I'm glad he's sticking to his guns. And yeah, thanks Ron McLean, for throwing him under the bus. Dude could have said something like, "Don is very passionate and his passion blinded him. I hope people can see the goodness in him, instead of reacting so harshly and attacking - he wasn't thinking with his mind, but ............. nah, that's not gonna fly.

Yeah, firing him on this day is totally not cool. Giving in to snowflakes and whining bitches.

I love the Huawei comment............. so true. Oh well, it is what it is. Money talks, bullshit walks.

DragonChi
11-11-2019, 08:00 PM
Apologizing admits fault, that's what's for. For god's sake, our defence minister is an immigrant.

welfare
11-11-2019, 08:22 PM
Cherry responds:

https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/audio/podcasts/don-cherry-to-barb-about-his-comments-on-saturday-night-1.10212017?mode=Article

supafamous
11-11-2019, 08:22 PM
First of all, I don't like Don Cherry at all.

However, that guy is so pro Canada. So proud to be a Canadian. I respect anyone who has passion about their country like he does.

By nearly any standard Don Cherry is, and always has been, a terrible Canadian. He's got a decades long record of being a racist and sexist - neither of which, as far as I'm aware, are Canadian values. If I'm wrong, point me in the right direction so I can declare him a great Canadian. As far as I can tell he's just a modern day John A. McDonald, our racist first Prime Minister. I put up with people like him as a child and a young man because I thought that's how it was but I'm tired of this kind of shit being passed off as "passion" when it's nothing more than racism.

In a 1990 CBC interview, Cherry proudly proclaimed himself to be a nationalist, and proposed to start a political party for people who are “ticked off at the foreigners coming over earning the dough.” In 1998, Cherry criticized Canadian Olympic flag-bearer Jean-Luc Brassard and called Quebecers “a bunch of whiners” just three years after the Quebec independence referendum.

Cherry became a founding owner of the Mississauga IceDogs, a Canadian major junior ice hockey team. For the club’s first three seasons, Cherry boycotted the OHL’s import draft and barred the team from fielding any European players.

In 2004, CBC put “Coach’s Corner” on a seven-second delay after Cherry went on a rant about how most NHL players who wear visors “are Europeans and French guys.” It was in line with more than a decade of public comments in which the flamboyant former coach called for hockey to be as violent and as English-speaking as possible.

What he said had nothing to do with poppies.

What he should have said was..........

"You fucking people, you come here, love our way of life, love our milk and honey, take advantage of our healthcare system, protection, etc. etc. etc............... give our veterans some respect. It was because of them, you have this kind of lifestyle."

That's pretty much what he said.

Are you denying that he's a racist? If yes, are you denying his decades long record of being one or are you saying that it's not racist to want to start a Nationalist political party that keeps the immigrants out or to call out on national TV that "you people" (immigrants) for not respecting veterans the same way the small town boys (white people) do?

If you're not denying he's a racist are you saying it's ok for him to be one? If it's ok for him to be one, what kind of platform should such a person get? One on weekly national TV on a show that's an institution of our country?

For those who have spent a lifetime dealing with racism of the same type that he espouses what do you say to those people? My mother in law who was told to "go back where you came from" in a Home Depot?

Can you also provide me with tips on how I can be more Canadian by being more like Don? My immigrant parents want to know how I'd like that they were never admitted to the country.

The Canada that Don Cherry is proud of is a Canada that most of us are not welcome to be a part of.

StylinRed
11-11-2019, 08:35 PM
Respecting the poppy, oh hell no!

Leading a country, dressing up in black face, lying numerous times, commiting criminal acts, handing terrorists millions of dollars, oh hell ya!

He was a child soldier if anyhhing that was tortured by us spies until he admitted to crimes, while Canada abandoned him under Harper, ignoring international humanitarian child soldier laws.. You're damn right he deserves compensation, and heartfelt apologies by all who looked the other way.

The fact there are ppl like you who keep bringing this up is appalling, and extremely uncanadian

Hondaracer
11-11-2019, 08:42 PM
He was a child soldier if anyhhing that was tortured by us spies until he admitted to crimes, while Canada abandoned him under Harper, ignoring international humanitarian child soldier laws.. You're damn right he deserves compensation, and heartfelt apologies by all who looked the other way.

The fact there are ppl like you who keep bringing this up is appalling, and extremely uncanadian

FailFish

Considering the previous Govt took the opposite opinion of the entire situation, but since Turd's liberals are just giving passports back to known Terrorists and dishing out compensation, now I've got to change my opinion of the situation as well? give me a break.

How frivolously the terms Racism, Sexism, Nazi, etc. are thrown around these days is appalling.

SkinnyPupp
11-11-2019, 08:45 PM
He was a child soldier if anyhhing that was tortured by us spies until he admitted to crimes, while Canada abandoned him under Harper, ignoring international humanitarian child soldier laws.. You're damn right he deserves compensation, and heartfelt apologies by all who looked the other way.

The fact there are ppl like you who keep bringing this up is appalling, and extremely uncanadian
I can't even imagine the kind of info is being withheld to the point where Trudeau gave up such an insane amount of political support to settle, rather than having everything come out in the public.

I think a lot of it is because some of these "great Canadians" would actually be supporting the type of torture and who knows what else is being done to children suspected of terrorism.

Rallydrv
11-11-2019, 08:48 PM
don is a racist pos..

having served in armed forces, Just because I don't wearing poppy one month out of the year doesn't make me love Canada any less or appreciate vets any less

Oh and Im naturalized canadian. So fu Don

richardmozis
11-11-2019, 08:57 PM
Don always had a double standard for Russian, Czech players in the league compared to Canadians. The Czech fans hated his odd criticism of eastern players.

His comments about Russians in 2002 are much worse than what he did yesterday, but the standards by which we judge his commentary have changed.

danned
11-11-2019, 09:35 PM
finally this guy is gone

welfare
11-11-2019, 10:01 PM
And yeah, thanks Ron McLean, for throwing him under the bus. Dude could have said something like, "Don is very passionate and his passion blinded him. I hope people can see the goodness in him, instead of reacting so harshly and attacking - he wasn't thinking with his mind, but ............. nah, that's not gonna fly.


Didn't Cherry save Macleans job?...Twice?
Man that's gotta hurt.

MG1
11-12-2019, 02:53 AM
Cherry responds:

https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/audio/podcasts/don-cherry-to-barb-about-his-comments-on-saturday-night-1.10212017?mode=Article

Taking the bitter with the sweet. The guy was abrasive, for sure. He said what was on his mind and ran with it. Was he a racist? Yeah, probably. Most people took him with a grain of salt, shook their heads, laughed at him, and dismissed it. People who are offended are offended because they let it......... I have been called all kinds of things in my life time, but that's how it is. It's called grow a thicker skin.

"You people" should just calm down.

Also, not all people who come here are the same.

Like I said before, I don't like the guy, but to do what they did, on the day that was important to him, was uncalled for.

god bless us all..................


People have a right to their opinion, right? Especially, in this country.

N.V.M.
11-12-2019, 04:14 AM
Cherry's taking his lumps, like a man. however, i'm surprised none of you said anything about that POS Ron MacLean.

that pussy back peddled out of this and threw Don even further under the bus. how many years have they worked together? what a fucking cunt he is.

twitchyzero
11-12-2019, 05:12 AM
as much as i despise huawei-backed rogers, this was the right decision

from the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council The CBSC has received a large number of very similar complaints concerning Coach's Corner broadcast on CBC (Sportsnet) on November 9, 2019, exceeding the CBSC's technical processing capacities

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OldfashionedOrdinaryEchidna-small.gif

people clearly had enough of his shit over the decades...from butchering Bieska's name to degrading European players

SkinnyPupp
11-12-2019, 05:55 AM
Cherry's taking his lumps, like a man. however, i'm surprised none of you said anything about that POS Ron MacLean.

that pussy back peddled out of this and threw Don even further under the bus. how many years have they worked together? what a fucking cunt he is.
He was probably happy to finally be broken up with that idiot after decades

Hondaracer
11-12-2019, 06:05 AM
CBC's line this morning on the radio, i'll paraphrase but try and keep it as accurate as possible

"Although he did not target one group, or one minority, if you look at the demographic of downtown Toronto there is not a more diverse population, therefor you can presume he was talking about people of color"

So now we're at a state where Racism is based on presumption.

They then went on to talk about who could possibly replace Don and brought up 2 names, Harnarayan Singh, the host of Hockey night Punjabi, and Haley Wickenheiser...CBC wants to be so "diverse" and "progressive" that they actually go out of their way to be this left wing machine #Puke

Jesus Christ..

Bouncing Bettys
11-12-2019, 06:57 AM
https://twitter.com/CandiceMalcolm/status/1194255813877096448
Talks about the people he saw in downtown Toronto, CBC decides to talk to immigrants in Calgary as if that's relevant.

westopher
11-12-2019, 07:18 AM
CBC's line this morning on the radio, i'll paraphrase but try and keep it as accurate as possible

"Although he did not target one group, or one minority, if you look at the demographic of downtown Toronto there is not a more diverse population, therefor you can presume he was talking about people of color"

So now we're at a state where Racism is based on presumption.

They then went on to talk about who could possibly replace Don and brought up 2 names, Harnarayan Singh, the host of Hockey night Punjabi, and Haley Wickenheiser...CBC wants to be so "diverse" and "progressive" that they actually go out of their way to be this left wing machine #Puke

Jesus Christ..
If he was talking about a bunch of white people wandering around DT Toronto, how do you think he would have come to the conclusion they were immigrants? Gone up and asked all of them? No, its because they looked like immigrants, and that Irish guy across the street doesn't look like one because as diverse as Canada is, we are still predominantly Caucasian. Also, after decades of pretty clear xenophobic behaviour its easy to draw that conclusion. If thats not what he meant he would have clarified it wasn't after the backlash. If he wasn't saying it about a group of immigrants, he'd be saying it about a generation, or a culture, or whatever.
As I said, he should have been gone for his own sake. The guy is 85 and doesn't have the understanding of the current world to behave appropriately and he was essentially allowed to throw himself under the bus because he was still getting views. I blame rogers sportsnet as much as him, as they wanted to ignore it long enough until it made them look bad instead of just him.

If he would have said "the people walking around downtown Toronto" instead of "you people, you come here"
Fucking clearly it's an insult thrown at immigrants instead of being thrown at the general population of Canada.

unit
11-12-2019, 07:31 AM
just take a second to think of why people wear poppies.

it means you went to tim hortons and bought your coffee and threw an extra quarter in the jar, so you can be smug that you are supporting veterans.
if you really cared about vets, you'd privately donate $50 and you wouldn't print out the donation receipt and pin it on your jacket lapel.

it's not like you're going to walk past any actual ww2 vets on remembrance day unless you're at a ceremony, so instead of this virtue signalling bullshit, go make an actual donation if you care as much as you say you do.

hud 91gt
11-12-2019, 08:15 AM
Although I think as a whole, we have gotten too soft. I think it’s pretty clear what he was talking about. I’m all for free speech, saying things that may be slightly politically incorrect. But this guy is a public figure and it really was time for him to go. It is sad it happened on a day he really cared about. Who knows, maybe that will give him a sense of pride that he stood up for his true feelings. Good riddance, let’s hope the next guy has a better fashion sense.

supafamous
11-12-2019, 09:00 AM
https://twitter.com/jbcurio/status/1194077928797212673

As far back as 1992 people have been calling out Don Cherry for being a bigot. Not surprising as you'll recall that in 1990 he wanted to start a political party focused on banning immigrants from coming into the country.

To any claim that Don's comments were not racist and that we're jumping to conclusions I'd point at:
- Track record of the past 35+ years where he's been a bigot.
- His comment of "You people, you come here" is clearly not about people native to Toronto.
- Prior to said comment, he talks about small towns with pride about their poppies.

He's a fucking racist, always has been. That shouldn't be in dispute. Instead, we can dispute whether it's ok to be a racist and what platform we should allow racists. Also, should being a public racist come with consequences?

Hondaracer
11-12-2019, 09:14 AM
Again, we’re tossing around the term “Racism” so loosely it’s seemingly lost it’s meaning.

Is saying French quebecois players are soft hockey players racist?

Is saying Europeans wear visors and play soft racist?

If you think that is racist that’s a reachhhhhhh.. and it’s basically used to just tow the narrative of this whole situation.

If a US Marine emigrated to Canada, Somone who couldn’t be more engrained in the armed forces and with a huge respect for the duty, would be feel like he was being attacked under the “you people” umbrella? I highly doubt it. Cherry has always loved the arm forces and he respects everyone involved whether your white as bread or you have a turban on, there are few with a greater respect for people in uninform regardless of race etc. He’s speaking directly to the people who don’t.

‪https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/agar-the-pc-mob-attacking-don-cherry-is-so-hypocritical-its-laughable/‬

supafamous
11-12-2019, 09:44 AM
Again, we’re tossing around the term “Racism” so loosely it’s seemingly lost it’s meaning.

Is saying French quebecois players are soft hockey players racist?

Is saying Europeans wear visors and play soft racist?

If you think that is racist that’s a reachhhhhhh.. and it’s basically used to just tow the narrative of this whole situation.

You're just straw manning right now and avoiding the facts that we have on record. You're picking at the edges of the argument when the core of it is he calls out immigrants this Saturday in a continuation of what he's been saying since the 80's about foreign people. His calling the Sedins sissies or Russians wimps is just another angle of his behaviour but not the meat of it.

Watch the video: https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1193581745335099393?s=20

Lest we forget, Don Cherry wanted to found a political party that would focus on banning immigrants. In his words:

"They're ticked off at the foreigners coming over earning the dough ... Canada first, and Canada only. That’s what I am. A nationalist. I want to start a new power, the nationalists."

If you want to argue that he's not a racist then defend this video and his statement of "you people, you come here". If you think his nationalist party is about all Canadians and not just the good old white boys then explain how his language is about including a Chinese guy like me in his nationalist party. Explain how my parents who came here in 1975 are included in his nationalist party - a party intended to keep the foreigners out because they are stealing from "real" Canadians.

You don't need to defend his calling of sissy Swedes and wimpy Russians. Just defend Don's nationalist statements.

Hondaracer
11-12-2019, 09:55 AM
I don’t disagree with what your saying. And I wouldn’t even go as far to say he’s not racist, although I believe he’s just somewhat senile with views many people his age share (which yea I agree the world has evolved and he hasn’t)

However, most of these incidents from the past and this latest one taken individually are not racist imo.

I appreciate you building an argument based on more than this most recent event

Badhobz
11-12-2019, 10:00 AM
It’s not just wwii vets (can’t be that many of them left nowadays) but there was Canadians in Korea, Iraq, etc. It’s important we honour those guys as well. WWII just gets way more attention

originalhypa
11-12-2019, 10:07 AM
Name one Canadian who defines patriotism?
Don Cherry.

They chased away the last true Canadian patriot and that's a shame. The triggered twitter users, the SJW crowd, whiners like supafamous, and those who simply want to take joy in the pain of others have won. In America, patriotism is not only accepted, but promoted. Why is it in Canada that being a patriot is a bad thing?

68style
11-12-2019, 10:10 AM
I'm sort of okay that he has been let go... but I don't really agree with why, SJWs suck ass.

There's so many other things he has said or done that should have got him fired.

I hate all his trashing of players with mental disorders because of concussions and saying that players trying to be compensated retroactively for brain issues are pigs at a trough... the guy literally profited millions of dollars off of rock'em sock'em videos of guys getting hurt and then he trashes the players for trying to get restitution for their ruined lives?

I remember from a little boy thinking to myself "Why are Russian people so terrible?" and it was him that put that idea into my head in the first place.

At times, I enjoyed his clarity... but in general, good riddance.

Manic!
11-12-2019, 11:22 AM
Name one Canadian who defines patriotism?
Don Cherry.

They chased away the last true Canadian patriot and that's a shame. The triggered twitter users, the SJW crowd, whiners like supafamous, and those who simply want to take joy in the pain of others have won. In America, patriotism is not only accepted, but promoted. Why is it in Canada that being a patriot is a bad thing?

So you are not a Canadian patriot?

cherry is a racist and we don't need that in hockey.

originalhypa
11-12-2019, 11:33 AM
So you are not a Canadian patriot?

The definition of patriot is this, as per the Merriam Webster dictionary.
The word patriot signifies a person who loves his or her country and is ready to boldly support and defend it. That meaning has endured since the word's arrival in English in the 16th century

I love my country and have defended it for decades. However, I cannot support the direction it is going. This is not my Canada.

cherry is a racist and we don't need that in hockey.

That's an opinion that you share with others, but it's just that, an opinion.
Having grown up with Don Cherry and "Rock em, Sock em", HNIC, etc, I see him as a Canadian icon. It's a shame that pussy ass victims like supafamous don't have the same frame of reference as many of us do.

unit
11-12-2019, 11:38 AM
Name one Canadian who defines patriotism?
Don Cherry.

They chased away the last true Canadian patriot and that's a shame. The triggered twitter users, the SJW crowd, whiners like supafamous, and those who simply want to take joy in the pain of others have won. In America, patriotism is not only accepted, but promoted. Why is it in Canada that being a patriot is a bad thing?

being patriotic isn't always a good thing. we should be critical of our country when it matters, and proud of our country when it matters. the america that you are describing is the expectation of blind patriotism, and that is related to nationalism. that's not good at all.

welfare
11-12-2019, 11:45 AM
Looks like mother Russia has offered Cherry a job to "talk whatever he thinks".
Maybe they understand that it's his provocation, not mediocrity, that draws the viewers.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/hockey/2019/11/12/don-cherry-khl-team-wants-fired-hnic-analyst-commentator/2572450001/

Manic!
11-12-2019, 12:07 PM
The definition of patriot is this, as per the Merriam Webster dictionary.
The word patriot signifies a person who loves his or her country and is ready to boldly support and defend it. That meaning has endured since the word's arrival in English in the 16th century

I love my country and have defended it for decades. However, I cannot support the direction it is going. This is not my Canada.



Ever heard of immigration? You might want to try it if you don't like living here. Maybe try Alabama.

Z3guy
11-12-2019, 12:11 PM
Name one Canadian who defines patriotism?
Don Cherry.

They chased away the last true Canadian patriot and that's a shame. The triggered twitter users, the SJW crowd, whiners like supafamous, and those who simply want to take joy in the pain of others have won. In America, patriotism is not only accepted, but promoted. Why is it in Canada that being a patriot is a bad thing?

Are you smoking glue dude? so you are supporting/defending some old out of touch asshat who is clearly is a racist and a biggot? He used his platform to spout his bullshit and you support it? I love this country more anything. If you don't love this country and like to talk shit, maybe you should move to the US where there are allot of so called "patriots". Jesus.......

westopher
11-12-2019, 12:21 PM
So often the same people that call themselves Canadian patriots criticize the Canadian government for welcoming refugees, and financial aid to war torn countries, when it's one of the most relevant and longstanding principles of the countries positive reputation across the world.

mikemhg
11-12-2019, 12:23 PM
I said this in the last thread, and I'll say it again.

He's a damn fool for his comment, why did he have to dog whistle?

This isn't necessarily an immigrant issue, it's a generational issue.

Whether you agree or not, with every year that passes WW2 becomes less relevant to the younger generations.

Walking around Vancouver, and in business, I very rarely see people within my age demographic (mid 30's) or younger, rocking poppies, whether you're Caucasian or not.

I would have no problem with him stating that the younger generation needs to remember the veterans, and support their sacrifice. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that statement.

His comment was a dog whistle, and one that quite frankly I grow tired of from these so-called "true Canadians".

It opens up an interesting conversation that's always bothered me to be honest.

My Mother is Irish, my father is Nigerian.

Nigeria was a British Colony in the 1930's/40's. My grandfather was sent to Burma in WW2 to fight the Japanese, as many of the African and Indian soldiers from British Colonies were sent to. My grandfather was shot there, and ended up dying years later back in Nigeria due to complications of the lead bullet still lodged within his body.

I remember as a kid in elementary school when in class we were to discuss if we had family members within the war. I remember referencing that story and having white children tell me "You're black though, black people weren't in the war". Looking back, that always bothered me. I suppose I can't hold grudge to some of those kids, because how would they know?

Very rarely in media do we ever show the sacrifices of non-Europeans who fought and died in WW1/WW2, so how would those kids know?

I've always felt this strange feeling in Canada that some like to look at Remembrance Day as a "whites only" holiday, where "immigrants", and people from outside of Europe don't belong in celebrating or taking credit for the war's success.

Don Cherry's stupid comments validate that feeling I've always had from older Canadians such as himself.

Hondaracer
11-12-2019, 12:37 PM
https://youtu.be/BQByAx9VRGM

Manic!
11-12-2019, 12:49 PM
https://youtu.be/BQByAx9VRGM

Why don't they show the actual video?

Manic!
11-12-2019, 12:53 PM
The Royal Canadian Legion
@RoyalCdnLegion
1/2
Mr. Cherry’s personal opinion was hurtful, divisive and in no way condoned by the Legion. We do remain appreciative of his passionate support for Veterans.
1:12 PM · Nov 11, 2019 from Ottawa, Ontario·Twitter for iPhone

unit
11-12-2019, 01:24 PM
https://youtu.be/BQByAx9VRGM

this is the kind of vid that someones conservative grandma posts on facebook, not the kind of stuff that i'd expect an RS member to link here and be taken as a serious example for their argument.

SkinnyPupp
11-12-2019, 03:41 PM
The definition of patriot is this, as per the Merriam Webster dictionary.
The word patriot signifies a person who loves his or her country and is ready to boldly support and defend it. That meaning has endured since the word's arrival in English in the 16th century

I love my country and have defended it for decades. However, I cannot support the direction it is going. This is not my Canada.



That's an opinion that you share with others, but it's just that, an opinion.
Having grown up with Don Cherry and "Rock em, Sock em", HNIC, etc, I see him as a Canadian icon. It's a shame that pussy ass victims like supafamous don't have the same frame of reference as many of us do.
I, too, grew up watching Rock em Sock em videos, and looked forward to Coach's Corner when I was at my height of NHL fandom, probably about when I was 12.

However, I am no longer 12. Since then, my view on how things work in the world has changed, and I have a better perspective of what's acceptable and what's not. If you were an actual patriotic Canadian, you'd be up in arms against Cherry as much as anyone else here. This kind of bigotry is NOT acceptable in Canada now. It never was, it's just that the people being targeted had no voice until now.

Now that they have a voice, would you not listen? Try to think by other peoples' perspectives once in a while. Imagine how much it must suck seeing people support this idiot who has been fighting against you for decades, only because you were born somewhere other than where you currently reside.

Cherry supporters act like they're defending "passion" and "patriotism" but really they're defending racism and bigotry. It's pretty disappointing.

supafamous
11-12-2019, 06:52 PM
The definition of patriot is this, as per the Merriam Webster dictionary.
The word patriot signifies a person who loves his or her country and is ready to boldly support and defend it. That meaning has endured since the word's arrival in English in the 16th century

I love my country and have defended it for decades. However, I cannot support the direction it is going. This is not my Canada.

Hey Patriot Act, if you don't like this country you are welcome to leave it. If you don't like the culture of inclusion and welcoming of newcomers there are other countries who would gladly take you. Canada's reputation around the world is that of people who come together to help others, who work as peacekeepers, and who look for the best of others. If those things don't appeal to you that's ok but I don't think you're gonna like living here.

That's an opinion that you share with others, but it's just that, an opinion.

The preponderance of evidence tracing back 30+ years indicate that the opinion of whether Don Cherry is a racist is such that it's actually fact in the same way that the opinion of climate change is just an "opinion" except that it's backed by a sizeable amount of evidence to support it. Don Cherry being a racist ain't new(s).

Having grown up with Don Cherry and "Rock em, Sock em", HNIC, etc, I see him as a Canadian icon. It's a shame that pussy ass victims like supafamous don't have the same frame of reference as many of us do.

Am I a pussy like a Swede or a Finn? Sissy Sedin twin or more like Esa "Dives like Greg Louganis" Tikkanen? Maybe that bum Petr Klima or former Flames Hakan Loob? Those guys wore fucking VISORS so clearly they were a bunch of pussies compared to those hard working farm boys like Cam Neely (traded for another farm boy Barry Pedersen) whom we call real hockey players! Too bad Cam's career was ended by that cowardly Swede Ulf Samuelsson who wore a visor. If Ulf were a real hockey player he would have gone for the head like Scott Stevens did with Eric Lindros (also REAL hockey players unlike that pussy Thomas Gradin!)

It's the fact that I've been following Don Cherry since he started Coach's Corner in 1982 with Dave Hodge (who called Don out for being an asshole on Twitter) that I know he's an unrepentant racist but whether one follows HNIC or not has no measure on if Don's an icon or not. Don's record is in public view and it speaks for itself.

This is behind a paywall but Sean McIndoe (that's some fucking authentic white name right?) says it well (https://theathletic.com/1369329/2019/11/12/mcindoe-i-grew-up-on-coachs-corner-don-cherrys-fall-has-been-hard-to-watch/):

As I wrote Monday morning, what Cherry said wasn’t just offensive or anti-PC. It was worse than that. It was the one thing Don Cherry was never supposed to be: un-Canadian. I wasn’t born in this country, but I’ve been here for almost my entire life, and I was always taught that it doesn’t matter where you’re from or when you get here. It’s not about how you look or talk or pray or whether you can skate. If you’re Canadian, you’re Canadian. That’s the ideal. It’s one we certainly don’t always live up to, but it’s the goal. Cherry’s words pulled in the opposite direction.

If you're a real patriot you're the kind of Canadian that Sean describes, not the kind that Don believes in. Don is a terrible Canadian and has been for 40 years, we just finally decided that terrible Canadians like him don't deserve a platform on one of our nation's most precious shows.

underscore
11-12-2019, 07:27 PM
Name one Canadian who defines patriotism?
Don Cherry.

They chased away the last true Canadian patriot and that's a shame. The triggered twitter users, the SJW crowd, whiners like supafamous, and those who simply want to take joy in the pain of others have won. In America, patriotism is not only accepted, but promoted. Why is it in Canada that being a patriot is a bad thing?

You think Americas bastardized version of patriotism is a good thing? Bruh...

Jmac
11-12-2019, 07:30 PM
Scott Stevens didn’t pick heads (like Matt Cooke) or elevate into the head (like Raffi Torres), he was a big, strong dude who hit centre mass at high speeds. Lindros had a habit of skating with his head down, which was death when playing against Stevens.

He’s retired now, but a more contemporary equivalent was Niklas Kronwall. You always wanted to make sure you were aware of where he was on the ice because he’d level you if you put yourself in a vulnerable position.

Neither Stevens or Kronwall were dirty players like Samuelsson or Cooke.

supafamous
11-12-2019, 07:44 PM
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1194431282660265985

Well, I guess we can wrap this thread up. Don Cherry showed up on Tucker Carlson's show to defend himself.

Jmac
11-12-2019, 07:52 PM
Full video: http://video.foxnews.com/v/6103177588001/

supafamous
11-12-2019, 07:59 PM
https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/ed-willes-don-cherry-was-many-things-but-bigot-was-always-part-of-his-shtick

It's telling that the nearly all of the sports writers who know Don Cherry well all admit that he's a bigot/racist and that he's been doing it for years and should have been fired ages ago except he was a money machine for CBC and, just like you can't fire Matt Lauer for being a rapey pig or you can't turn in Harvey Weinstein for being a rapey pig or Bill Cosby for well you know (FFS, can we stop sticking our dicks in places where they ain't welcome!?) you can't fire a guy for being a racist if he's popular.

Z3guy
11-12-2019, 08:03 PM
Doing an interview on Fox News with Tucker Carlson is the modern day equivalent to attending a KKK rally

GS8
11-12-2019, 09:00 PM
Thank you Rogers for the being the moral compass of social justice and awareness of those who are so wrongly targeted.

You are now free to return back to the hive of your fellow cartels to continue gouging millions of Canadians with your overage charges, vague contract terminology with fine print hat looks like toner bleed, inept imbeciles who cannot answer inquiries (over the phone, ironically) and those hidden fees that pop up whenever they feel like it because you said so.

I mean Canada has to lead at something right? So why not lead in some of the highest cell phone bills in the world? As complaints spike no less.

Hmm, maybe I should get a job with the CCTS? Seems like it could be very full time at this rate of momentum.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ccts-november-2018-telecom-complaints-1.4921033

So yes, thanks Rogers. You're winner!

Manic!
11-12-2019, 09:49 PM
Thank you Rogers for the being the moral compass of social justice and awareness of those who are so wrongly targeted.

You are now free to return back to the hive of your fellow cartels to continue gouging millions of Canadians with your overage charges, vague contract terminology with fine print hat looks like toner bleed, inept imbeciles who cannot answer inquiries (over the phone, ironically) and those hidden fees that pop up whenever they feel like it because you said so.

I mean Canada has to lead at something right? So why not lead in some of the highest cell phone bills in the world? As complaints spike no less.

Hmm, maybe I should get a job with the CCTS? Seems like it could be very full time at this rate of momentum.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ccts-november-2018-telecom-complaints-1.4921033

So yes, thanks Rogers. You're winner!

You think they did this because they have a morel compass? They did it because of the money. Ever been to a Canucks game?

Jmac
11-12-2019, 10:02 PM
I think we can all agree Rogers has no moral compass and no moral high ground.

They’re, at the very least, complicit in this having retained him since taking over in 2013 despite numerous controversial statements prior to that (which eventually led CBC to put a 7-second delay on him) and airing that segment 3 times that night (once live, twice recorded) before condemning him only after the CBSC contacted them regarding the flood of complaints.

I would personally say they condoned his behaviour for their own monetary benefit until it became financially disadvantageous to continue.

ilovebacon
11-12-2019, 10:41 PM
Why can't we all be grateful for what we have in Canada and not worry too much about poppies...

pastarocket
11-13-2019, 03:25 AM
It would be a long shot for this former Canuck to replace Cherry.

What about Kevin Bieksa? Call the first intermission segment “Juice’s Corner”.

:lawl:

Bieksa is knowledgeable about ice hockey given his NHL career. Has charisma and a good sense of humour. He would be my choice.

I think Brian Burke is the front runner to replace Cherry.

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DragonChi
11-13-2019, 06:06 AM
Name one Canadian who defines patriotism?
Don Cherry.


Jack Layton. RIP. He was a true patriot, that was thinking of his country, above family, even on his death bed. He united the people and brought the country to unity, to be stronger.

whitev70r
11-13-2019, 08:53 AM
You think they did this because they have a morel compass? They did it because of the money. Ever been to a Canucks game?

Wasn't it obvious to you that GS8's comment was dripping with sarcasm?

fliptuner
11-13-2019, 09:58 AM
You think they did this because they have a morel compass? They did it because of the money.

I like mushrooms as much as the next guy but what's this got to do with Don Cherry? :troll:


Semi-related, here's an artical written about a James Baldwin essay, written over 50 years ago. It outlines how social enlightenment, as a whole, from both sides, is needed to move forward, harmoniously.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uwarchive.wordpress.com/2016/05/23/how-james-baldwin-speaks-to-our-moment/amp/

!LittleDragon
11-13-2019, 11:01 AM
TBH, I don't wear a poppy... poking yourself with the pin all the time... I just put a 5 or 10 in the box and leave the poppies. Just going to lose it anyways.

FatalCloud
11-13-2019, 11:33 AM
putting aside his controversial history, i'm probably one of the few but i didn't find anything offensive about what he said recently, people are so freaking sensitive these days you literally have to watch what you say anytime you are out in public. it's ridiculous. so ron mclean who was nodding his head in agreement during the segment, after your 'friend' is fired, you decide to apologize and decry the comments as discriminatory and hurtful etc. riiiight.

fliptuner
11-13-2019, 11:47 AM
You know everything needs to be sugar coated.

It's so refreshing meeting Irish, Scot, Oceanic visitors. You can speak matter of factly and zero fucks are given. Not to mention the abundant use of the word, cunt, by both men and women.

Harvey Specter
11-13-2019, 12:01 PM
I grew up watching Don, I didn't mind him but over the years his rants were the same old every weekend. He couldn't remember half the players names he was ranting about, he was always turning to Ron to fill in words because he couldn't complete a sentence and mixing politics and hockey never made sense to me but I was also under the impression that Don was going to eventually make a run for office but that never materialized.

And people bashing Ron would probably do the same thing if your job and career was on the line. He finally got his job back from Stroumboulopoulos so I'm pretty sure he wasn't going to piss off the suits.

whitev70r
11-13-2019, 01:13 PM
haha ... you just reminded me of Stroumboulopoulos ... !!! What a frickin joke that was.

Suits trying to capture the next generation for hockey ... what a disaster.

Harvey Specter
11-13-2019, 08:08 PM
Yikes...

I've received comments telling me to 'back to my country' and honestly, I would love a trip to British Columbia right about now.

Winnipeg is getting chilly.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJH_qyfXUAEuDNC.png:large

Here's one of the many comments I received after Joe Warmington decided to put my name in his article.

Thanks, Joe!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJIQfNzW4AEuqyG.png:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJImQV0W4AsTzVp.png:large

https://twitter.com/AhmarSKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetemb ed%7Ctwterm%5E1194059088252096512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.narcity.com%2Fnews%2Fca% 2Fdon-cherrys-poppy-rant-led-to-a-canadian-reporter-getting-hate-mail

Manic!
11-13-2019, 08:15 PM
Yikes...



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJH_qyfXUAEuDNC.png:large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJIQfNzW4AEuqyG.png:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJImQV0W4AsTzVp.png:large

https://twitter.com/AhmarSKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetemb ed%7Ctwterm%5E1194059088252096512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.narcity.com%2Fnews%2Fca% 2Fdon-cherrys-poppy-rant-led-to-a-canadian-reporter-getting-hate-mail


For all you cherry supporters this is who you are aligned with. These are your brothers in arms.

Gumby
11-13-2019, 08:22 PM
For all you cherry supporters this is who you are aligned with. These are your brothers in arms.
Huh? I think the people Harvey Specter quoted are bashing Don Cherry, not supporting him...

Edit: sorry, I didn’t click on the twitter link and misunderstood

Harvey Specter
11-13-2019, 08:27 PM
Huh? I think the people Harvey Specter quoted are bashing Don Cherry, not supporting him...

No, Don Cherry supporters.


A Manitoba-based journalist has spoken out about the racist abuse he has recently received after he ended up getting dragged into the Don Cherry "you people" scandal. After Don Cherry’s poppy rant got him fired from Sportsnet last weekend, CBC Manitoba reporter Ahmar Khan has taken to Twitter to share how he ended up involved in the scandal, and examples of the xenophobic emails he has been receiving since the drama unfolded.

On November 11, news broke that Hockey Night in Canada host Don Cherry had been fired from his post, following a controversial comment he made about Remembrance Day and immigrants wearing poppies.

Referring to immigrants as “you people,” Cherry accused Canada’s newcomers of “coming here” and “loving our way of life,” but not wearing poppies on Remembrance Day.

After Cherry’s comments were broadcast over the weekend, the sheer volume of complaints received by the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council (CBSC) ended up shutting down their website, and the CBSC site had to stop accepting submissions.

Now, a Manitoba-based Canadian journalist has revealed how the scandal has ended up impacting him, and the hate mail he has received is pretty shocking.

On November 11, CBC reporter Ahmar Khan called out the Toronto Sun on Twitter for including his criticism of Cherry in their article about the drama, noting that it had led to an unusual influx of racist emails in his inbox.

Khan explained, “Here's one of the many comments I received after Joe Warmington decided to put my name in his article,” going on to share several screenshots of the awful messages he had recently been sent.

One of the emails stated, “You honestly think a less-white Canada is better? I have proof it is not. If every black or Indian left Canada we would be way better off.”

Another email said, "Take you're [sic] ugly race and ways and leave already ... You will never be a Canadian."

In a follow-up tweet, Khan added, “Let's not forget the person who told me he lives right next to an Army Base and for me to 'tread lightly on him and other Canadians'”.

After sharing the snippets from the horrific emails, Khan went on to add, “Please don't tell me this is not Canadian. It is and always has been what some Canadians are like."

"It can be changed, but acknowledging the existence of xenophobia and racism needs to come first,” he explained.

https://www.narcity.com/news/ca/don-cherrys-poppy-rant-led-to-a-canadian-reporter-getting-hate-mail?fbclid=IwAR1iVqhDCS_OcMzQcCTWdUNrBWuzWfMraBSm evCa57T7nHWfO1uC4UkbgPk

SkinnyPupp
11-13-2019, 08:45 PM
Yikes...



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJH_qyfXUAEuDNC.png:large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJIQfNzW4AEuqyG.png:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJImQV0W4AsTzVp.png:large

https://twitter.com/AhmarSKhan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetemb ed%7Ctwterm%5E1194059088252096512&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.narcity.com%2Fnews%2Fca% 2Fdon-cherrys-poppy-rant-led-to-a-canadian-reporter-getting-hate-mail
So this means that Don Cherry is the Donald Trump of Canada LUL

Not every Don Cherry fan is a racist piece of shit, but all racist pieces of shit seem to be Don Cherry fans LUL

Jmac
11-13-2019, 08:48 PM
For all you cherry supporters this is who you are aligned with. These are your brothers in arms.
There are opinions that range from mild and civilized to batshit crazy on pretty much any divisive topic, doesn’t mean those people are all grouped together or have equally-valid opinions.

welfare
11-13-2019, 09:05 PM
Looks like sportsnet has found a more politically correct replacement.

https://i.imgur.com/H1e6BLK_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

SkinnyPupp
11-13-2019, 09:08 PM
Blackface Trudeau will never stop being funny Kappa

GS8
11-13-2019, 11:23 PM
Doing an interview on Fox News with Tucker Carlson is the modern day equivalent to attending a KKK rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBsa9DEEvfw


I guess Tulsi Gabbard must be a white supremacist...

Manic!
11-14-2019, 12:38 AM
I guess Tulsi Gabbard must be a white supremacist...

Tulsi Gabbard is a Hindu nationalist.

SkinnyPupp
11-14-2019, 01:27 AM
Oh no do we hate Tulsi now?

Manic!
11-14-2019, 01:45 AM
Oh no do we hate Tulsi now?

She supports Modi and gets a lot of support from Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh an ultra-right-wing violent Hindu nationalist group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashtriya_Swayamsevak_Sangh

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-india-envoy-visits-nazi-inspired-hindu-group/a-49682304

https://torontosun.com/2017/05/08/straight-out-of-the-nazi-playbook-hindu-nationalist-group-rashtriya-swayamsevak-sangh-try-to-engineer-genius-babies-in-india/wcm/2d3bcc23-0a34-438a-8bd0-326dca96df56

Sikhs, Muslims, Kashmiris, and others don't like Modi or the RSS.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VYQBEdiseZFZSq7DNs0BDX2l7WKcZcMA6cDlzhlkoomo75uNxv Cgvc6wnQuPrb_hBH-JkBa1v2Sc4FDxgGrtKT0kug=s900



https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/american-sangh-affair-tulsi-gabbard

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VYQBEdiseZFZSq7DNs0BDX2l7WKcZcMA6cDlzhlkoomo75uNxv Cgvc6wnQuPrb_hBH-JkBa1v2Sc4FDxgGrtKT0kug=s900

SkinnyPupp
11-14-2019, 02:13 AM
Thanks I'll look into it. I know there's a lot of BS out there about here, so it'll be hard to find legit stuff

Also I am not familiar with Indian politics, so I have no idea how bad supporting Modi actually is.

Manic!
11-14-2019, 02:22 AM
Thanks I'll look into it. I know there's a lot of BS out there about here, so it'll be hard to find legit stuff

Also I am not familiar with Indian politics, so I have no idea how bad supporting Modi actually is.

Modi was banned from entering the US until he became P.M.

https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-us-india-modi-20140925-story.html

In 2005, Modi, an ardent Hindu nationalist and rising political star, was denied a U.S. visa over accusations that he failed to stop religious pogroms in which hundreds were killed, mostly Muslims, in the Indian state where he was serving as chief executive.

SkinnyPupp
11-14-2019, 02:46 AM
OK and how is she supporting him? Funding? Troops? It seems political more than anything, like they want to have strong relationships with India

welfare
11-14-2019, 05:08 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qPYSvTPw4TM

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 07:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBsa9DEEvfw


I guess Tulsi Gabbard must be a white supremacist...

probably not, but her actions and russian aligned talking points sure make her look like a puppet of Putin though.

If you are trying to defend Fox's news, you are completely delusional to "facts"....I get it, you want to hear what you want to hear regardless of fact based news reporting......

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 07:20 AM
Thanks I'll look into it. I know there's a lot of BS out there about here, so it'll be hard to find legit stuff

Also I am not familiar with Indian politics, so I have no idea how bad supporting Modi actually is.

There is allot of bullshit out there, if you look for it. CBC, MSNBC, and CNN are actually News Stations VS Fox News which is propaganda machine.

welfare
11-14-2019, 08:03 AM
There is allot of bullshit out there, if you look for it. CBC, MSNBC, and CNN are actually News Stations VS Fox News which is propaganda machine.

Yes it's important that people get their propaganda from the 'correct' outlets :heckno:

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 08:17 AM
Yes it's important that people get their propaganda from the 'correct' outlets :heckno:

do you homework man, if you believe CBC/CNN/MSNBC is anything like Fox News, you are the exact person Rupert Murdoch wanted to appeal to. Fox News is officially listed as entertainment Vs actually news reporting.

I guess ignorance is bliss......

welfare
11-14-2019, 08:41 AM
do you homework man, if you believe CBC/CNN/MSNBC is anything like Fox News, you are the exact person Rupert Murdoch wanted to appeal to. Fox News is officially listed as entertainment Vs actually news reporting.

I guess ignorance is bliss......

And if you believe that the outlets you list are completely impartial, you're woefully ignorant.

People are polarized-->people report the news-->the news is polarized-->people watch the news-->people are polarized....

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 09:15 AM
And if you believe that the outlets you list are completely impartial, you're woefully ignorant.

People are polarized-->people report the news-->the news is polarized-->people watch the news-->people are polarized....

You are hilarious, anyone who defends Fox News as a meaningful news outlet is completely oblivious to factsEleGiggle

Yeah, CBC/CNN/MSNBC are impartial, they care about human rights, rule of law, and facts. What does Fox News spout? Like I said early, Fox News was made for "People like you"lol!!!

welfare
11-14-2019, 09:33 AM
Your automatic assumption of a false dichotomy exemplifies my point.
Thank you

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 09:43 AM
^ what is your point then? why don't you response to question instead......

Hondaracer
11-14-2019, 09:52 AM
CBC is just the polar opposite of Fox News. No better with their constant spewing of liberal propaganda they pass off as opinion pieces.

It’s pretty fucked actually that a publicly funded corp like CBC can be so heavily biased in practically all their programming. But as usual people just accept it and worry about the smaller issues

StylinRed
11-14-2019, 10:12 AM
comparing US entertainment news to news outlets of any other country is odd


cnn/fox are bother for profit entertainment "news" networks

just like whatever that Canadian right wing attempt at a "news" channel is too, for entertainment, the one with shills like ezra levant, think their network went bust (cant remember the name)


cbc, bbc, npr, etc will be your legitimate, not for entertainment, leaning news sources, but that doesn't men they don't have their biases also

68style
11-14-2019, 10:29 AM
What would constitute a non-biased news in anyone's eyes nowadays though? AS soon as the news says something that doesn't support the version of events that an individual believes to be true, they just call it propaganda or fake news.

I could go on the screen with my face blocked out (so you don't have any preconceived notions of my race and to make me impartial) and just monotone read facts... but half the people would agree and half would say my facts came from a skewed source.

Gone are the days where you can change anyone's mind with a rational presentation of known facts.................

Manic!
11-14-2019, 10:49 AM
comparing US entertainment news to news outlets of any other country is odd


cnn/fox are bother for profit entertainment "news" networks

just like whatever that Canadian right wing attempt at a "news" channel is too, for entertainment, the one with shills like ezra levant, think their network went bust (cant remember the name)


cbc, bbc, npr, etc will be your legitimate, not for entertainment, leaning news sources, but that doesn't men they don't have their biases also

Sun news.


People this is fox news.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/steak-fb.jpg

whitev70r
11-14-2019, 11:00 AM
^ what is your point then? why don't you response to question instead......

He didn't defend Fox News as a valid source of news. He simply said that EVERY news outlet (including CBC) has their bent and biases. That is so damn simple ... what don't you get about that? If that line of reasoning has to be explained to you ... oh man!

What is a non-biased news source ... none .. period.

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 11:23 AM
^ I believe in something called Facts, do you?

Sure, every news outlet has some bias, so what....CNN try to provide POVs from both sides, MSNBC more liberal, Fox news is complete propaganda with no essence of the facts

68style
11-14-2019, 11:46 AM
I agree Fox news construes or simply does not present facts.

However.......... CNN can be very biased. I read CNN more than most other news, and sometimes I roll my eyes.

They're pretty good and they CAN be very good/objective......... but they just can't help themselves sometimes from overindulging on the liberal side of things.

unit
11-14-2019, 12:20 PM
i think media bias is not just about being centerist, it's more about whether you accept money from advertisers, corporate underwriters, or government funding.

CNN is not unbiased at all. they may not be as fake news as Fox, but they are certainly biased, and their business model right now is to divide the left and right as far as possible because trump is good for business.

underscore
11-14-2019, 12:29 PM
I could go on the screen with my face blocked out (so you don't have any preconceived notions of my race and to make me impartial) and just monotone read facts... but half the people would agree and half would say my facts came from a skewed source.

"Can't trust a man if you can't see his face!"

/boomer

GS8
11-14-2019, 01:29 PM
probably not, but her actions and russian aligned talking points sure make her look like a puppet of Putin though.

If you are trying to defend Fox's news, you are completely delusional to "facts"....I get it, you want to hear what you want to hear regardless of fact based news reporting......

Okay

I'll need you to read the second part of what you wrote, then read the first part and then read the second part again

Where was my post even indicative I was trying to defend Fox :lol



Sun news.


People this is fox news.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/steak-fb.jpg


https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2082071/size/tmg-article_default_mobile.jpg

And THIS IS CNN? (James Earl Jones voice)

Manic!
11-14-2019, 02:26 PM
Okay

I'll need you to read the second part of what you wrote, then read the first part and then read the second part again

Where was my post even indicative I was trying to defend Fox :lol






https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2082071/size/tmg-article_default_mobile.jpg

And THIS IS CNN? (James Earl Jones voice)

One looks like a religious ceremony the other looks like an idiot trying to drink a steak with a straw.

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 02:44 PM
Okay

I'll need you to read the second part of what you wrote, then read the first part and then read the second part again

Where was my post even indicative I was trying to defend Fox :lol






https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2082071/size/tmg-article_default_mobile.jpg

And THIS IS CNN? (James Earl Jones voice)

kool, you got me! hope I made your day....:alone:

Z3guy
11-14-2019, 02:49 PM
I agree Fox news construes or simply does not present facts.

However.......... CNN can be very biased. I read CNN more than most other news, and sometimes I roll my eyes.

They're pretty good and they CAN be very good/objective......... but they just can't help themselves sometimes from overindulging on the liberal side of things.

that's the point, at least you can determine the bias with your own judgement. Fox News is from another planet. They just parrot what their viewers want to hear......They fired Shep Smith for actually reporting the facts....

SkinnyPupp
11-14-2019, 03:15 PM
What would constitute a non-biased news in anyone's eyes nowadays though? AS soon as the news says something that doesn't support the version of events that an individual believes to be true, they just call it propaganda or fake news.

I could go on the screen with my face blocked out (so you don't have any preconceived notions of my race and to make me impartial) and just monotone read facts... but half the people would agree and half would say my facts came from a skewed source.

Gone are the days where you can change anyone's mind with a rational presentation of known facts.................
I agree with what you're saying here, but your last line implies that things used to be different.

nabs
11-14-2019, 04:13 PM
CNN is horribly biased however does not admit their bias.

FOX news is also horribly biased, however admits their bias.

GS8
11-14-2019, 05:40 PM
One looks like a religious ceremony the other looks like an idiot trying to drink a steak with a straw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv8WHQwo4GY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rqAPSoSajg

The steak thing reminds me of anything I'd see in a new age art / theater / dinner exhibit (pretentious gak).

The 'ceremony' thing seems a tad more awful and far more dangerous. But whatever gets the clicks (and therefore revenue) right?

Manic!
11-14-2019, 07:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv8WHQwo4GY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rqAPSoSajg

The steak thing reminds me of anything I'd see in a new age art / theater / dinner exhibit (pretentious gak).

The 'ceremony' thing seems a tad more awful and far more dangerous. But whatever gets the clicks (and therefore revenue) right?


When did fox new become new age? Next time you go to a restaurant ask the server for a straw when you order a steak. Ask him to put some light bulbs on it too.

and how was the ceremony dangerous?

twitchyzero
11-14-2019, 07:41 PM
gonna stay on topic or nah?

or half the threads have to turn into trump vs cnn garbage?

Z3guy
11-15-2019, 06:48 AM
CNN is horribly biased however does not admit their bias.

FOX news is also horribly biased, however admits their bias.

What nonsense are you talking about? I am just truly floored how many people defend Fox News.

Z3guy
11-15-2019, 06:49 AM
gonna stay on topic or nah?

or half the threads have to turn into trump vs cnn garbage?

What garbage ? The truth? Did you know the world is flat? Lol!

Z3guy
11-15-2019, 06:51 AM
Anyone following the impeachment hearings?

GLOW
11-15-2019, 08:17 AM
entire page of don cherry thread without mention of don cheery Kappa

nabs
11-15-2019, 09:38 AM
What nonsense are you talking about? I am just truly floored how many people defend Fox News.

I'm not defending Fox news. I'm just saying that they admit that they are biased towards the right.

I can't stand watching CNN with their constant panels on everything. However I know where my sources stand and look for the truth somewhere in the middle.

Manic!
11-15-2019, 10:07 AM
Don Cherry supporter busted for vandalizing cenotaph.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/11/12/oldcityhallcenotaphnovember12.jpg

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/cenotaph-vandal-suspect-said-he-did-it-to-protest-firing-of-don-cherry-1.4687189


Cenotaph vandal suspect said he did it to protest firing of Don Cherry

The 33-year-old man who allegedly sprayed graffiti on the cenotaph at Old City Hall said in a Facebook post he did it to protest the firing of Don Cherry.

On Tuesday morning, the words "ye broke faith" and “with us” were seen spray-painted onto two sides of the monument located in downtown Toronto at Queen and Bay streets. The words appear to reference the line, “If ye break faith with us who die,” from John McCrae’s poem “In Flanders Fields.”

Officers with the Toronto Police Service confirmed they received a call regarding the vandalism at 7 a.m. on Tuesday. City officials were later seen power washing the cenotaph, removing the paint, in the noon hour that same day.

On Friday, police said they charged Thomas Christian Zaugg with two counts of mischief.








https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.4687519!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

cherry supporters are real class acts.

Z3guy
11-15-2019, 10:39 AM
I'm not defending Fox news. I'm just saying that they admit that they are biased towards the right.

I can't stand watching CNN with their constant panels on everything. However I know where my sources stand and look for the truth somewhere in the middle.

At least CNN brings in a panel from both sides....heck they even use to bring in Ken Cuccinelli on the panel.

Bouncing Bettys
11-15-2019, 11:08 AM
cherry supporters are real class acts.
I'm a Cherry supporter. What are you saying?

JD¹³
11-15-2019, 11:21 AM
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.4687519!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg
This guy's just a piece of shit. Full stop. Don Cherry would NEVER condone someone vandalizing a cenotaph for any reason. This loser was looking for a reason to lash out; he's not so upset over someone being fired to stoop to vandalism out of the blue.

unit
11-15-2019, 11:31 AM
I'm not defending Fox news. I'm just saying that they admit that they are biased towards the right.

I can't stand watching CNN with their constant panels on everything. However I know where my sources stand and look for the truth somewhere in the middle.

fox news is definitely way cozier with the president than cnn has ever been with any democratic president, there's no doubt about that. you aren't defending fox because their bias is literally indefensible.

nabs
11-15-2019, 12:30 PM
At least CNN brings in a panel from both sides....heck they even use to bring in Ken Cuccinelli on the panel.

Panel discussions should also last more than an hour at a time, the panel discussions held on CNN only allow each participant to get one statement out before they move on to the next topic. It needs to be a real long form discussion to be productive.

Nlkko
11-15-2019, 12:48 PM
I just skim through this thread but one can be a patriot and a bigot at the same time. It's not mutually exclusive. I believe he was canned for being a bigot, which is appropriate.

The backlash just shows you the new generation doesn't tolerate that kind of shit, which is a good thing. You can honor the fallen without denouncing marginalized groups of people. There are immigrants who have children who served or are serving the Canadian armed forces. Isn't that patriotic? This old fart is simply misinformed. Buying a paper poppy conveniently at the checkout and pin it on your clothing article is not patriotic.

welfare
11-15-2019, 09:49 PM
Anyone following the impeachment hearings?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-SgOZwxmGf4

Manic!
11-16-2019, 10:01 AM
I'm a Cherry supporter. What are you saying?

I'm lumping all cherry supporters into one group. You have a problem with that.

welfare
11-16-2019, 04:15 PM
I'm lumping all cherry supporters into one group. You have a problem with that.

What if someone doesn't agree with Cherry's political finger wagging, but also doesn't believe/can't confirm that what he said was intended to be racist and therefore doesn't believe he should have been fired?
Is that a supporter?

MG1
11-16-2019, 06:50 PM
I'm lumping all cherry supporters into one group. You have a problem with that.

I'm impressed........... you must be trying harder, these days. No spelling errors. Just missing the question mark. That's a big leap, son.

CharlesInCharge
11-16-2019, 09:07 PM
Don Cherry has been part and parcel of influencing Anglo whites to sign up and die for a one world government with isreal as its capital... in his eyes, the least immigrants can do (along with their 9-5 rat race contribution to help build the empire) is respect the ones that sacrifice themselves. Basically nod and gloss over the realities of what a war mongering nation we are.

Manic!
11-16-2019, 09:08 PM
What if someone doesn't agree with Cherry's political finger wagging, but also doesn't believe/can't confirm that what he said was intended to be racist and therefore doesn't believe he should have been fired?
Is that a supporter?

I don't know the difference between a K&N and an AC Delco oil filter. You would be the expert on that. When tens of thousands of people across Canada say his commits are racist you might want to listen because I don't think you are an expert on racism.

pastarocket
11-17-2019, 07:11 AM
Ron McLean’s talk during the first intermission on HNIC was....interesting.


I guess Ron needs the milk and honey more from his big paycheque than Don.

:lawl:


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MG1
11-17-2019, 07:42 AM
“I’ve sat all week long reflecting, listening to you, and I’ve heard you — I mean you the viewer,” he said.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6179202/ron-maclean-don-cherry-hockey-night-in-canada/

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/ron-maclean-coachs-corner-sportnet-nov-16-1.5362580

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ron-maclean-says-coach-s-corner-is-no-more-after-don-cherry-firing-1.4689331

welfare
11-17-2019, 08:39 AM
I don't know the difference between a K&N and an AC Delco oil filter. You would be the expert on that. When tens of thousands of people across Canada say his commits are racist you might want to listen because I don't think you are an expert on racism.

And there are probably just as many who don't believe what he said was racist.

You didn't answer the question.

68style
11-17-2019, 08:45 AM
^ Well... not that I care whether Cherry was fired or not tbh, but besides this point........ how many of those tens of thousands of people who said his comments are racist are experts on racism?

And how many of them are hyprocrites as in they have done or said racist things themselves?

So many people live in glass houses and like to throw stones.

Manic!
11-17-2019, 09:08 AM
And there are probably just as many who don't believe what he said was racist.

You didn't answer the question.

and how many of those that stand with cherry have faced racism? Imagine someone who has never done an oil change tell you how to do an oil change.

You also only had like 12 people protest in front of sportsnet headquarters. That should tell you something about how many people believe cherry is not racist.

Manic!
11-17-2019, 09:11 AM
^ Well... not that I care whether Cherry was fired or not tbh, but besides this point........ how many of those tens of thousands of people who said his comments are racist are experts on racism?

And how many of them are hyprocrites as in they have done or said racist things themselves?

So many people live in glass houses and like to throw stones.

A lot of them have experienced racism first hand.

welfare
11-17-2019, 09:55 AM
and how many of those that stand with cherry have faced racism? Imagine someone who has never done an oil change tell you how to do an oil change.

You're creating false equivalencies.
What he said is a matter of interpretation.
Not all white people believe it wasn't racist and not all minorities believe it was.


You also only had like 12 people protest in front of sportsnet headquarters. That should tell you something about how many people believe cherry is not racist.
That's your measure?
#IstandWithDonCherry and #BoycottRogers trended 1 and 2 on Twitter.
Clearly there's enough people who disagree to make it a divisive matter.

And again, you haven't answered my question.

Manic!
11-17-2019, 10:40 AM
You're creating false equivalencies.
What he said is a matter of interpretation.
Not all white people believe it wasn't racist and not all minorities believe it was.


That's your measure?
#IstandWithDonCherry and #BoycottRogers trended 1 and 2 on Twitter.
Clearly there's enough people who disagree to make it a divisive matter.

And again, you haven't answered my question.

12 people showed up to protest. 500k showed up in Montreal for the climate protest. Shows you Candians think are really important.

Things on line can easily be manipulated. Google worlds best toilet paper and click images.

I guess you think Hitler matter of interpretation. Because some people think he was a great man.


Here is post from an actual expert who has studied racism in hockey.

If we’ve learned anything from Donald Trump it’s that there are plenty of ways to make racist remarks without explicitly talking about race. Let’s start with the facts: Cherry was talking about “you people” who come to “our” country and referenced people from Mississauga and downtown Toronto. “If you take all of those things together, we are talking about immigrants. And not white immigrants,” says Courtney Szto, a kinesiology prof at Queen’s university whose doctoral dissertation is on racism in hockey culture. Szto notes that “immigrant” itself has racial implications depending on location and era. Had Cherry’s remarks been made in 1850, his argument that he could have been talking about Irish Immigrants (which he made during an interview with Global News) might hold water. Today though, what he says is a pretty good example of the kind of “coded language that is used to hold up white supremacy all over the world,” Szto says.
Speaking of language, Cherry kind of killed his own argument during that same Global News interview, saying that he doesn’t regret anything, but (big but here) if he had to do it over, he would have replaced “you people” with the word “everyone.” Which, is kind of like Cruella de Vil saying next time she’d make the coat without killing all those puppies.

Don't believe me believe an expert in the field.

welfare
11-17-2019, 11:05 AM
12 people showed up to protest. 500k showed up in Montreal for the climate protest. Shows you Candians think are really important.

Things on line can easily be manipulated. Google worlds best toilet paper and click images.

I guess you think Hitler matter of interpretation. Because some people think he was a great man.

Here is post from an actual expert who has studied racism in hockey.



Don't believe me believe an expert in the field.

I don't need an expert in the field to interpret his words for me. I waited for him to do that. Which he did. I guess it just wasn't The interpretation some wanted to hear. They'd already done it for him.

Thanks for the discussion. I'll forget about you answering my original question now.

Manic!
11-17-2019, 11:27 AM
I don't need an expert in the field to interpret his words for me. I waited for him to do that. Which he did. I guess it just wasn't The interpretation some wanted to hear. They'd already done it for him.

Thanks for the discussion. I'll forget about you answering my original question now.

I know what he said and know what he meant and so do lots of other people.

parm104
11-17-2019, 06:20 PM
And how many of them are hyprocrites as in they have done or said racist things themselves?

So many people live in glass houses and like to throw stones.


Are you asking how many people who have ousted Cherry have gone on live national television and spewed out hate?

I haven't. Never even been on tv. Was on the big screen at the Canucks game one time but I just took that opportunity to throw up a dab.

Mr.Money
11-18-2019, 12:19 AM
how many are praising Don Cherry just to ass kiss towards a famous person

OR

how many are thinking Don Cherry is just back tracking on damage control?

"oh i should have said all of you and not "you people".


that would be pretty easy thing to say when shit hits the fan,esp if you're born in 1934 when racism was a normal way

hud 91gt
11-18-2019, 04:58 PM
https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/warmington-don-cherry-comes-back-with-a-new-show/wcm/2458dbaf-ee43-4144-8cc5-30e729948783

Manic!
11-19-2019, 01:53 AM
https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/warmington-don-cherry-comes-back-with-a-new-show/wcm/2458dbaf-ee43-4144-8cc5-30e729948783

Is he going to be bi-winning like charlie Sheen.

He is going to get some listens at the start but it will die down. Also he will get next to no sponsors and will end making no money.

Bouncing Bettys
11-19-2019, 09:36 AM
Much like when anti-PC dinosaur Jeremy Clarkson was fired by the BBC and went on to create his own show while Top Gear went to shit?

Could the all knowing Manic also share the results for the 2020 Stanley Cup?

Manic!
11-19-2019, 09:51 AM
Much like when anti-PC dinosaur Jeremy Clarkson was fired by the BBC and went on to create his own show while Top Gear went to shit?

Could the all knowing Manic also share the results for the 2020 Stanley Cup?

They had the backing of Amazon and all of Amazons money. What does cherry have? Are you going to be a regular listener?

westopher
11-19-2019, 12:03 PM
https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/warmington-don-cherry-comes-back-with-a-new-show/wcm/2458dbaf-ee43-4144-8cc5-30e729948783

Did the person who wrote this article want it to sound like an ad for a monster truck rally? Holy fuck.

Mr.Money
11-20-2019, 02:13 AM
Much like when anti-PC dinosaur Jeremy Clarkson was fired by the BBC and went on to create his own show while Top Gear went to shit?

Could the all knowing Manic also share the results for the 2020 Stanley Cup?


welcome to the new age,So many better car shows on youtube,i watched one episode of Top gear years ago.
it was okay at the time but nothing great on today's standards what new idea creators have rebuilding ferrari's and lamborginis from wrecks.


also Jay leno's garage is damn nice

hud 91gt
11-20-2019, 07:26 AM
Did the person who wrote this article want it to sound like an ad for a monster truck rally? Holy fuck.

5 bucks 5 bucks 5 bucks, hockey, racism, slander, all on your iPhone iPhone iPhone!


Lol

Manic!
11-20-2019, 10:29 AM
So who were has listened to cherrys podcast? welfare? betty?

SkinnyPupp
11-20-2019, 04:35 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/439950527166558208/JjEur3xu_400x400.jpeg

You people who wanted him to fade away are out of luck as the former NHL coach of the year is going to be able to exercise his free speech, after all.

Did he just say you people? WutFace Hope he doesn't cut himself on all that edge

westopher
11-20-2019, 07:19 PM
LOL that fucking fedora.