[twitchyzero]

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5dd767922c886a0007ecc0e4/960x0.jpg?fit=scale

inspired by Blade Runner
optional range up to 800km
starts under 50k usd
delivery starts late 2021

[Manic!]

I'm guessing for the ETA Mid summer 2021.

[Hehe]

Tesla is really having guts to come after the B&B of domestic manufacturers. :D

Can't wait to see what innovation they'd bring to this sector

[!LittleDragon]

800km range... will probably get 1/3 the range while towing something.


Real world use...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhX3BmhJXc8

[Hehe]

And we are almost there!

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcROXiN_cdE&feature=emb_logo

Live stream

[Alpine]

The terminator style presentation makes sense now lol.

I don't doubt the engineering and the ballistic impact tests that were done to it.. but man... it's gonna take a while to grow on me lol.

[SpeedStars]

I hope that design is just a mock-up.. it's like driving 4 flat planes of steel with 4 flat planes of glass

[68style]

What the fuck kind of shit design is that?

Also, Elon Musk is a terrible presenter.

[BlackV62K2]

Damn that's ugly

[hud 91gt]

Don’t care what it ends up looking like. Impressive stats.

I’m 99.8% sure this thing is not real. For one, there is zero structural properties in flat panels. Unless that door is backed by impact explosive lithium batteries for strength. Lol Not to mention Tesla are built around efficiency, if I remember anything from a couple aerodynamics courses, that’s far from efficient.

[fliptuner]

All I see is a doorstop.

[320icar]

I love it. Trying to get onto tesla website but it’s not working

[Manic!]

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/cybertruck/

Trying to place an order keep getting this: here was an error processing your order. Please try again

[Jmac]

Looks straight out of Starfox ...

[Koflach]

Well, it's definitely the most unique vehicle on the road. Maybe it'll grow on me but for now, that's a no for me dawg.

[Manic!]

Placed it on the US site
https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck/

Deposit is 100% refundable.

With 110 and 220 on board you can run your power tools anywhere including a welder.

[320icar]

404 errors. Too bad my RS is worthless for trade in lol

[SkinnyPupp]

https://i.imgur.com/UYGx1gn.png

WutFace

[Hehe]

This is the extreme end of function/form.

It’s fugly. However, it might be targeting a very different crowd than the average Joe 6 pack.

My friend who’s in the trade business said he’s sold. 110/220v, air compressor and stainless steel body where he could be carefree of bumps and dings. It’s his wet dream coming true.

[Jmac]

Pontiac Aztek designers wishing this thing came out in the 90s

[Manic!]

Could this be the new G500? Girls seem to love those.

[SkinnyPupp]

In a way, the design is brilliant. It's like it's designed specifically for the meme culutre of today. I don't follow ANYONE in the auto industry on twitter, and my feed is blowing up with this thing.

[GS8]

What in the coal burning fuck is that?

It looks like a 1940s concept of a futuristic house on wheels...

[Manic!]

They claim it's bullet proof. But: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/employment-business/business/security-services/armoured-vehicles

Armoured Vehicles

Vehicles manufactured or adapted to protect their occupants from explosions and gunshots are considered armoured vehicles. Under British Columbia’s Armoured Vehicle and After-Market Compartment Control Act and Regulation, you must have a permit to operate an armoured vehicle.

A business that operates an armoured vehicle without a permit could face a fine up to $100,000. An individual who operates one without a permit could face a fine up to $10,000 and six months in jail. Additional fines can also be issued under the Offence Act.

Under the Armoured Vehicle and After-Market Compartment Control Act, it is also illegal to own, operate or use a vehicle that contains a concealed compartment that was installed after the vehicle was made.

[!LittleDragon]

Maybe they forgot to renew their Autocad licenses and had to use Minecraft instead?

[Hehe]

Could this be the new G500? Girls seem to love those.

You aren't kidding... I just asked my wife about what she thinks about the design... the exact words "I love it! It's like an extreme version of that Benz square jeep I like". And by "square jeep", of course she meant the G class.

Then she said... "let's get this one instead of the X! So much cooler!"

[danned]

$39,900
single motor rwd

$49,900
dual motor awd

$69,900
tri motor awd


can i drift with this like initital d?

[Manic!]

$39,900
single motor rwd

$49,900
dual motor awd

$69,900
tri motor awd


can i drift with this like initital d?

US prices plus add 7K US for autonomous. Place a pre order now and then for the next 2 years you can brag to everyone you are getting one. Cancel before it arrives or flip the reservation if the demand is high.

No price on the ATV.

Could make a good plow truck. Have 2 people one on the ATV doing sidewalks and other small area's and the truck doing parking lots.

[xjc11]

https://i.imgur.com/1i0uM0j.jpg

[Hehe]

I gave it some serious thoughts and looked through the details on Tesla.com... ended up placing an order for the 500miles tri-motor version. It checks all the boxes really.

Reasoning: with the kiddos, we are always hauling stuff (bikes, snowboards, camping equipments... so on). I've already made my decision to go all-electric after picking up my Model3. This is much more suitable for my lifestyle for years to come than the X. I don't think I'd be towing anything. And 500miles range means I can basically roadtrip with it. 800km is roughly the max I'd do with kids in a day worth of driving. Charge fully overnight and go 800km again.

And at 69900USD, which is sub-100k CAD... this truck actually makes a LOT more of sense than a Model X 100D we were looking to get.

[twitchyzero]

let's be real, Tesla besides the upcoming Roadster are not sexy, some even a downright eyesore

i'd like to think the most aesthetically pleasing automotive art like e-type/rx-7 are not what future EV tries to emulate at all...i like that there were no expectations allowing the design completely to come up from scratch...having a traditional bed like the Rivian probably has shit aero effects

so zero incentives in Canada/BC for the AWD?

ffff late 2021? so spring 2022 at best for us...that's almost Roadster/Semi vapourware waitlisting

[Hehe]

so zero incentives in Canada/BC for the AWD?

I'm not really worried about the incentives. Our gov't tailor-made those conditions to please the big 3. Going as far as adjusting the requirements so models from the big 3 can qualify.

Tesla had to make clever adjustments (introducing a ultra limited 150km range Model 3) in order to make its car compliant to the incentives.

By then, all big 3 will have some sort of EVs on their lineups and our gov't will sure "adjust" the requirements so that "more" people can move to EV. :fuckthatshit:

[yray]

guy is on meth now

inb4 he uses 201 stainless

Did they even crash test this thing yet? Inb4 he adds rubber bumpers ala american spec Porsche bumper :lawl:

[MarkyMark]

I'm pretty sure if I play through some of my old Nintendo 64 games I can find that exact vehicle design somewhere

[asian_XL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ9wXsQUUAEGh6s.jpg

[Hondaracer]

TSLA the new apple? People get trolled into buying whatever they spew out? Lol thing is hideous

[Great68]

I literally laughed out loud.

Did they design it on a computer from the 80's?

I thought Tesla was supposed to be the company that made awesome all-electric cars that look good, but normal.

[punkwax]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=udxR5rBq_Vg

[Jmac]

There should be zero incentives on EVs. Why are people who can afford luxury vehicles being subsidized over say mass transit, which has a much much larger benefit to health and the environment, not to mention providing the largest benefit to lower income citizens?

[Hondaracer]

There should be zero incentives on EVs. Why are people who can afford luxury vehicles being subsidized over say mass transit, which has a much much larger benefit to health and the environment, not to mention providing the largest benefit to lower income citizens?

You mean you don’t appreciate Chris Gailus and Sophie Lui yelling at you on the evening news to trade in your gas guzzler while they get discounts on their model 3’s for plugging them on their social media?

[68style]

You mean you don’t appreciate Chris Gailus and Sophie Lui yelling at you on the evening news to trade in your gas guzzler while they get discounts on their model 3’s for plugging them on their social media?

This, I was shocked to find out some social media people in the USA have gotten free cars from Tesla for convincing people to use their order code when buying one. Something like 50 orders for Teslas under your code = free car? Wow...

[twitchyzero]

looks menancing with the lights...i dig the interior too

when the humvee was released to civilians it must've felt like this

was anyone here around and remember if the delorean was also very polarizing at launch before it entered hollywood?

https://youtu.be/oTZ84U-K_5k?t=230

[68style]

I honestly don’t think anyone cared that much about the Delorean, it was a bespoke car and it still looked like a car.... there were quite a few gull wing door vehicles around before that. It wasn’t particularly futuristic or anything.

[unit]

how is this good at anything a truck is supposed to be good at? you can't even put a rack on top, and the box appears to be tiny.

[underscore]

As an actual vehicle it seems pretty badly thought out compared to the Rivian and other electric trucks I've seen coming out. I can only assume they made this piece of junk so hideous to draw more attention to it, I mean it's basically a truck version of the geoff/Hammerhead Eagle i Thrust

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/flexslider_full/public/slideshow_image/4_31.jpg?itok=pQSkkjJv

There should be zero incentives on EVs. Why are people who can afford luxury vehicles being subsidized over say mass transit, which has a much much larger benefit to health and the environment, not to mention providing the largest benefit to lower income citizens?

If I remember right buses are actually the worst vehicle per-person when it comes to emissions, but the study that found that may have been wrong/out of date/etc. Otherwise yeah I agree with you, why subsidize the vehicles bought by wealthy people when they're also getting to drive around on roads that they aren't paying for the maintenance of? Bunch of mooches.

[Manic!]

how is this good at anything a truck is supposed to be good at? you can't even put a rack on top, and the box appears to be tiny.

Box is 6.5 feet, fold the gate and you can fit a full sheet of plywood. It can tow x2 the weight the f150 can and has 5 more inches of ground clearance than a ford Raptor. Has air suspension so you can lower it for loading unloading and has 120/220 power so you can run all your tools. It also seats 6.

[Badhobz]

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105439429-1536353186931screen-shot-2018-09-07-at-4.45.51-pm.jpg?v=1536353260&w=678&h=381

Get outta here pedo guy

[Ferra]

shit looks like that armored vehicles from Aliens :lol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/b7/09/f3b709697adb5fce00256d73d0451b2b.jpg

[StylinRed]

Uses the same aluminium thst they use on their spaceX starship ooo

https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/22/teslas-cybertruck-is-made-of-the-same-stainless-steel-alloy-that-spacex-is-using-for-starship/

[GLOW]

shit looks like that armored vehicles from Aliens :lol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/b7/09/f3b709697adb5fce00256d73d0451b2b.jpg

i was thinking the same thing :lol

[twitchyzero]

how does a strip of LED (also on the rivian) be adequate to light up the road ahead? Unless it's extremely bright/glare-y

or another silicon valley overestimation that the tech will hopefully be there in 2 years and still be cost. Effective

[MarkyMark]

Did they mention the width and length of this thing at all? Looks pretty long in the videos

[tegra7]

I like it cause it's different. Will consider buying if it has a decent crash safety rating.

[JSALES]

Looks like something you would drive on the Moon

[!LittleDragon]

I wonder if many electric buyers will still buy an electric if they scrapped the gas taxes and tax by the KM instead? Electric/hybrid owners pay little to no gas tax which goes to road maintenance. Makes sense that if you're going to use the roads, you should pitch in and pay for it.

To be clear, I'm not talking about the translink taxes, carbon tax, GST, etc... just specifically the money that goes to road maintenance.

[nsx042003]

shit looks like that armored vehicles from Aliens :lol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/b7/09/f3b709697adb5fce00256d73d0451b2b.jpg

this armored one looks better than the Tesla though

[Jmac]

I wonder if many electric buyers will still buy an electric if they scrapped the gas taxes and tax by the KM instead? Electric/hybrid owners pay little to no gas tax which goes to road maintenance. Makes sense that if you're going to use the roads, you should pitch in and pay for it.

To be clear, I'm not talking about the translink taxes, carbon tax, GST, etc... just specifically the money that goes to road maintenance.
It’s coming, but EV makes up so little of the total volume of vehicles that it’s too insignificant to implement at this stage. It’ll probably be a tax on electricity via smart meters.

[punkwax]

What happened to this?

https://investorintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/The-Tesla-electric-pick-up-truck-mystery.jpg

[punkwax]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/648/052/23c.jpg

[Badhobz]

^accurate.

[danned]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKAGOlnVAAE0ynD.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKAYaV6XYAA_aPg.jpg

[JD¹³]

Really disappointing. I'm a truck owner that was looking forward to this, but the styling is so fucking awful I'd never buy one. They literally didn't even try. It's also pretty obvious they don't understand the truck market in regards to usage and how owners add to their vehicles (bumpers, boxes, etc).

JMac is damn right that there shouldn't be financial incentives on electric cars, and LittleDragon is right that it's wrong that gas-free vehicles aren't doing their part to maintain the infrastructure they use. The fact that charging is free and these vehicles are pulling power out of the grid and using the roads while not paying a cent is a rip-off for everyone else. The 'wealthy' who can afford the luxury are subsidized into free use of the roads. The whole system is a joke.

[twitchyzero]

got a reservation in yesterday for a dual-motor one
but also dont want to be a bleeding edge early adopter

[StylinRed]

What happened to this?

https://investorintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/The-Tesla-electric-pick-up-truck-mystery.jpg

Omg I want that, that's probably the design he'll go with if nobody orders these triangles

[SkinnyPupp]

Omg I want that, that's probably the design he'll go with if nobody orders these triangles
Tons of people seem to be ordering these... Like I said my twitter is blowing up with memes, and now my facebook is blowing up with friends posting screenshots of their preorders. Like not even crazy car people either. One friend probably hasn't had a car in like 10 or 20 years (lives in NYC)

For whatever reason, this thing seems to be a hit with people.

[twitchyzero]

For whatever reason, this thing seems to be a hit with people.

it breaks the mold of boxy pick-up trucks

how many times do you hear the car community complain all automobiles look the same these days? crash regulations and fuel efficiency dictates the cookie-cutter exteriors

half a million model 3 pre-orders made a statement to the conventional automakers it's time for a revolution

already projected 200k for cybertruck reservations...i'm sure $100 refundable helps tremendously

in BC this triangle truck represents getting 400km+ range from the company leading in EV tech but without luxury surtax

[SkinnyPupp]

it breaks the mold of boxy pick-up trucks

how many times do you hear the car community complain all automobiles look the same these days? crash regulations and fuel efficiency dictates the cookie-cutter exteriors

half a million model 3 pre-orders made a statement to the conventional automakers it's time for a revolution

already projected 200k for cybertruck reservations...i'm sure $100 refundable helps tremendously

in BC this triangle truck represents getting 400km+ range from the EV leading company without luxury surtax
100% agree. In fact that other truck posted on this page, I was going to say it's even uglier, because it looks like a GMC or whatever but made up to be on a shitty ABC sci-fi show that gets canceled after one season

The actual cybertruck, I still don't like it, but that's personal taste. I think most vehicles made after 1997 or so are ugly. Mercedes and BMW set the trends of what ugly cars should look like, and everyone copies them LUL

[Mr.Money]

i'm trying to like it but i cant.

i'm really thinking the designers wanted the cheapest possible minimal design to cash in and save on their end for the highest profits,reason why everything is so flat the less machining to produce.


all the luck to telsa it's something i wouldn't love to purchase,as much as other people are rushing to order one,its not for me.

[cafe22]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/647/680/2a2.jpg

[Hondaracer]

it breaks the mold of boxy pick-up trucks

how many times do you hear the car community complain all automobiles look the same these days? crash regulations and fuel efficiency dictates the cookie-cutter exteriors

half a million model 3 pre-orders made a statement to the conventional automakers it's time for a revolution

already projected 200k for cybertruck reservations...i'm sure $100 refundable helps tremendously

in BC this triangle truck represents getting 400km+ range from the company leading in EV tech but without luxury surtax

Lol this “breaks the mould of boxy pickups?” This is THE box lol

https://di-uploads-pod15.dealerinspire.com/orangecoastchryslerjeepdodgeram/uploads/2018/09/2019-Ram-1500.jpg

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/2020-ford-f-150-mmp-1-1565730299.jpg?crop=0.679xw:0.764xh;0.160xw,0.0986 xh&resize=640

https://images.hgmsites.net/hug/2020-gmc-sierra-1500_100709055_h.jpg

All things equal I’ll take any domestic half tonne over the cyber truck. Hell I’d even take the pussy import trucks over it.

[welfare]

So they're calling this thing a truck? OpieOP

[Manic!]

All things equal I’ll take any domestic half tonne over the cyber truck. Hell I’d even take the pussy import trucks over it.

But all things are not equal. Towing, ground clearance, horsepower/torque and seating capacity are all better with the Tesla. It also has 110/220 power. If you are buying it strictly as a work truck who cares about looks.

[Hondaracer]

But all things are not equal. Towing, ground clearance, horsepower/torque and seating capacity are all better with the Tesla. It also has 110/220 power. If you are buying it strictly as a work truck who cares about looks.

If you think a welder would ever buy this thing you’ve never met a welder lol.

As much as they want to tote this as some kind of trades solution, I can pretty much guarantee you this thing ain’t gonna be parked at many job sites.

Also, it will be a decade or more before EV trucks ever have the long range towing payload of a one tonne or 3/4 tonne diesel. The guy with the 3500 Cummins will be in Calgary towing a 5th wheel trailer a day and a half before the Tesla has made its 6th stop to charge in the kootneys

[AzNightmare]

I wonder if a lot of people are going to back out of the reservations after the hype is over. Some people like to just jump on things just because it's new and then once time passes, they realize it was just all emotion in wanting the next new thing or wanting to tell people they're going to get something unique.

If vehicles generally have a common shape and design and everyone's copying each other, it's probably a good idea. Just like how tablets and phones all look the same.

A part of me is wondering if this is simply an experiment to see how much influence Tesla has. I'm not going to deny this is fully function over form, but if Tesla just throws out whatever with good specs, are people going to just bend over and take it.

At this point, it almost seems like Apple has the influence to pull shit like this. If they decided to make a phone shaped like this:

http://6enders.weebly.com/uploads/9/5/4/8/9548853/8707671.gif

You'll probably have people going nuts over it.

[Manic!]

If you think a welder would ever buy this thing you’ve never met a welder lol.

As much as they want to tote this as some kind of trades solution, I can pretty much guarantee you this thing ain’t gonna be parked at many job sites.

Also, it will be a decade or more before EV trucks ever have the long range towing payload of a one tonne or 3/4 tonne diesel. The guy with the 3500 Cummins will be in Calgary towing a 5th wheel trailer a day and a half before the Tesla has made its 6th stop to charge in the kootneys

It's not perfect for everyone but no vehicle is. Living on Vancouver Island I can be in the bush within 15 minutes. You could take 6 people into the bush with tools and lumber and build a tiny house/cabin. then use the truck to power it for a few day when you are there. You have to think outside the box.


According to Tesla's website a Model S longe range will need 3 stops to get from Vancouver to Calgary with a total charge time of 110 minutes. The Cyber truck will be different but it gives you a rough idea.


https://www.tesla.com/trips#/?v=MS_2017_100D&o=Vancouver,%20BC,%20Canada_Vancouver%20Greater%20 Vancouver%20BC@49.2827291,-123.12073750000002&s=&d=Calgary%20International%20Airport%20(YYC),%20200 0%20Airport%20Rd%20NE,%20Calgary,%20AB%20T2E%206W5 ,%20Canada_Calgary%20International%20Airport%20200 0%20Airport%20Rd%20NE@51.1215031,-114.00761560000001

[CharlesInCharge]

Fixed!
https://i.imgur.com/ziHXDG6.jpghttp://

[!LittleDragon]

According to Tesla's website a Model S longe range will need 3 stops to get from Vancouver to Calgary with a total charge time of 110 minutes. The Cyber truck will be different but it gives you a rough idea.


https://www.tesla.com/trips#/?v=MS_2017_100D&o=Vancouver,%20BC,%20Canada_Vancouver%20Greater%20 Vancouver%20BC@49.2827291,-123.12073750000002&s=&d=Calgary%20International%20Airport%20(YYC),%20200 0%20Airport%20Rd%20NE,%20Calgary,%20AB%20T2E%206W5 ,%20Canada_Calgary%20International%20Airport%20200 0%20Airport%20Rd%20NE@51.1215031,-114.00761560000001

Those estimates are out the window while towing though. TFL's testing shows you lose 2/3 of the range when towing with the Model X. That 110 mins of charging is going to be more like 330 mins. That's 5.5 hours. It's 10 hours driving time to Calgary normally, it'll take over 15 hours with this truck + trailer.

If this thing is really is function over form, it wouldn't have those fancy door handles. Trades people don't have the cleanest hands and would probably gum up the mechanism pretty quick. No to mention Tesla should've redesigned them after someone burned to death because firefighters couldn't open the doors to get them out.

This is a truck for people who never get their trucks dirty or use them as a truck. Ever see a labourer with dry rough hands try to work a smart phone? The touches don't register and Tesla wants them to use that massive touch screen instead of buttons? I haven't seen the interior but I'm guessing the blind spots are massive.

[welfare]

Made BY pencil pushers FOR pencil pushers.
No tradesperson would ever buy this truck. Not for work.
Does it even have a box?

[twitchyzero]

Tesla isn't trying to convert the guys who works in -20C hauling serious stuff in rural areas that would still require HD diesel rigs

for the casuals/hobbyists that just carries maybe a mtb/dirt bike or for home depot runs, this is will do

i have zero interest in FCA products...nor GM trucks after working ona Silverado

yeah this is breaking the mould...wish more companies are willing to experiment outside cookie cutters (Jeep Gladiator is at least pretty bold)

No to mention Tesla should've redesigned them after someone burned to death because firefighters couldn't open the doors to get them out.

I haven't seen the interior but I'm guessing the blind spots are massive.

yep, i have no idea why they're trying to make the glass 'balls' proof unless this is for law enforcement/military/gang bangers

i bet awful blind spots wont bother me in practice after a few days if there's radars, 360 cams, self-parking ai, etc

[Koflach]

this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX1xG0a4TVo

[Hehe]

Tesla isn't trying to convert the guys who works in -20C hauling serious stuff in rural areas that would still require HD diesel rigs

for the casuals/hobbyists that just carries maybe a mtb/dirt bike or for home depot runs, this is will do

i have zero interest in FCA products...nor GM trucks after working ona Silverado

yeah this is breaking the mould...wish more companies are willing to experiment outside cookie cutters (Jeep Gladiator is at least pretty bold)



yep, i have no idea why they're trying to make the glass 'balls' proof unless this is for law enforcement/military/gang bangers

i bet awful blind spots wont bother me in practice after a few days if there's radars, 360 cams, self-parking ai, etc


Quote for truth.

I've never thought about getting a pickup myself due to the limited practicality in my daily routine. I'd probably use the bed in the back once a month if I had one and the mileage is quite horrifying for the rest of the time. And unless I go with the larger (crewcab) config, a truck isn't very fitting for a family.

The reason why I decided to go ahead with a preorder was just that. A "car" that has an on-demand bed when I need to haul stuff, while being suitable for a family. All built-in... no need to add/take anything. It's the first time a pickup made to be practical enough for me, a very normal J6P guy.

The tri-motor version I ordered is a sub 3sec 0-60 and 10sec 1/4miles "car". Easily the FASTEST I will probably ever own.

And seriously... this "car" has an incredible road presence that's probably only matched by a Hummer H1. Which is a very smart move. Real work people don't care about the look. They want toughness, and they want road presence if they care enough to raise it, put some big wheels/tyres, chrome/metal parts... etc. Cybertruck checks all that. Super tough, all metal and you can bet to have some big ass wheel/tires in them.

Practicality, performance and presence... you'd be hard to find another pickup on the market (either existing or announced) to be able to equal this, let alone topping it.

[fliptuner]

For better or worse, it's polarizing and people are talking about it. So either way, winning.

[hud 91gt]

The hummer was always cool.

I have yet to hear someone that actually likes the look of this thing (even friends who have preordered) I love everything else about it though. I think Elon is trying to prove he can sell an ugly as all hell car with his technology. Ha

[underscore]

No to mention Tesla should've redesigned them after someone burned to death because firefighters couldn't open the doors to get them out.

That's the kind of thing that had me scratching my head at the stupid "armored" windows. Why the fuck would you want that? You're more likely to be in a situation where you want the window to break than one where you need an armored window.

[Manic!]

That's the kind of thing that had me scratching my head at the stupid "armored" windows. Why the fuck would you want that? You're more likely to be in a situation where you want the window to break than one where you need an armored window.

Law enforcement.

[twitchyzero]

https://i.redd.it/s5m8alyoef041.png

[ilovebacon]

if only I had the money...

[!LittleDragon]

Law enforcement.

If they wanted it, don't you think they'd have it already? Vehicle armour and bulletproof glass aren't exactly new. The current Dodge and Ford police vehicles have optional armoured doors but most cars are not optioned with them. The costs would be too high since police cars on average are replaced around the 100k mile mark.

[Manic!]

If they wanted it, don't you think they'd have it already? Vehicle armour and bulletproof glass aren't exactly new. The current Dodge and Ford police vehicles have optional armoured doors but most cars are not optioned with them. The costs would be too high since police cars on average are replaced around the 100k mile mark.

I'm thinking swat.

https://americansecuritytoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Terrier-LT-79-.jpg

[!LittleDragon]

I'm thinking swat.



Uhhh... SWAT vehicles fit 10-12 team members + equipment and are built to ram things...

[MarkyMark]

I think a lot of people who put down their refundable deposit will get cold feet when it times to put some real money down. This thing is far from a car with the practicality of a truck when you need it. First off, it's fucking huge. Ever try to daily a Hummer or Ford Raptor? Have fun always parking on the outskirts because you can't fit in regular parking spots. Road presence gets old when you have to plan which car you're taking because you don't know if your trucks going to make the tight turn out of the drive-thru.

If you already own a truck and still want it then by all means. If this is going to be your first big vehicle go drive a super duty or a Raptor around for a week and see if it's for you. I guarantee that tech geek in the video will not end up buying one.

[twitchyzero]

^ quite a few of the 150k reservations will get cold feet? sure...but i think more will pull out only because the options aren't ready by first delivery

it's the same size as f150, i've yet to seen those struggle in drive-thrus in north america nor parkades that wasn't built for asian malls (aberdeen/crystal mall)...i have heard new condo parking stalls aren't sized for anything larger than a compact crossover so i guess ymmv

mkbhd is a massive tesla fanboy, pretty sure he'll buy it even if he doesnt need it...$$$$

If they wanted it, don't you think they'd have it already? Vehicle armour and bulletproof glass aren't exactly new. The current Dodge and Ford police vehicles have optional armoured doors but most cars are not optioned with them. The costs would be too high since police cars on average are replaced around the 100k mile mark.

explorer interceptor is 38k

f150 crew cab the vpd k9 unit uses i'm sure is way more than $40k cybertruck

i can see the existing police fleet being replaced by EV for 2030

Uhhh... SWAT vehicles fit 10-12 team members + equipment and are built to ram things...

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/705/21152649636_dc038df213.jpg

[Harvey Specter]

Personally I think Elon is trolling everyone with this truck hence why he's only asked for a $100 deposit. He'll probably show the "real" truck at some point.

Also, great time for his buddies to buy Tesla stock on the dip.

[hud 91gt]

100%

[twitchyzero]

hope no one is actually waiting for the 'real' Tesla truck

Musk doesn't need $1000 deposits for a mass-produced product because of model 3's commercial success

this to me is more like crowdfunding...not because you necessarily want the truck ASAP but to support the disruption of the status quo

[Manic!]

This is not a troll. If you look at the truck it seems very easy to build. No stamped sheet metal just stainless steel with a few bends. Having no paint saves money and it's awesome because you don't have to worry about scratches.

Some police forces already have Tesla model S and model 3's in their fleets. A model 3 long range costs 40K the US a dual-motor truck costs 50K. With more citys going green the truck is a no brainer. The reduced maintenance costs combined with the higher resale value makes the overall cost of the truck not much more than a standard police car/SUV.

[hud 91gt]

This is not a troll. If you look at the truck it seems very easy to build. No stamped sheet metal just stainless steel with a few bends. Having no paint saves money and it's awesome because you don't have to worry about scratches.

Some police forces already have Tesla model S and model 3's in their fleets. A model 3 long range costs 40K the US a dual-motor truck costs 50K. With more citys going green the truck is a no brainer. The reduced maintenance costs combined with the higher resale value makes the overall cost of the truck not much more than a standard police car/SUV.
The way that guy hit the truck with a sledge hammer, means that stainless is some sort of mystery space metal (which he states it is, kinda), or it’s a solid 3/8”+ thick plate. That’s a lot more expensive then some stamped parts which are equally as strong in a lighter material. The body itself with thick steel like that would weigh 1000lbs. There is a ton of reasons this vehicle design makes no sense and has a few questioning its reality.


Every other Tesla is based on efficiency. They are aerodynamically superior to other cars in every way. This is the reason why a truck has not come out yet. The battery technology has not been available to make up for the extra drag from a pickup. Reducing the drag by aerodynamics or weight. This truck does none of that. Just load up the batteries until they get the range they want? Huge expense. The whole thing doesn’t make sense.

The guy is a genius nutcase. I’m a huge skeptic but anything is possible with this guy.

[!LittleDragon]

Personally I think Elon is trolling everyone with this truck hence why he's only asked for a $100 deposit. He'll probably show the "real" truck at some point.

Also, great time for his buddies to buy Tesla stock on the dip.

I'm thinking this as well. Does anyone truly believe this thing would even pass DOT safety requirements? There's a reason why civilian vehicles don't have sharp edges on the front end.


explorer interceptor is 38k

f150 crew cab the vpd k9 unit uses i'm sure is way more than $40k cybertruck

But a $40k USD cybertruck isn't a police vehicle yet. It needs the necessary modifications. The Ford interceptor is rear crash tested for 75mph. I don't know what kind of mods are needed for the Cybertruck to withstand that kind of hit and not damage the battery pack.

Some police forces already have Tesla model S and model 3's in their fleets. A model 3 long range costs 40K the US a dual-motor truck costs 50K. With more citys going green the truck is a no brainer. The reduced maintenance costs combined with the higher resale value makes the overall cost of the truck not much more than a standard police car/SUV.

I'm sure there are, just as some police departments have Lamborghinis and GTRs. They're specialty vehicles and are not the norm in their fleet. I'm sure they'll all be clean energy vehicles one day but this is not it. With today's attitude towards police, do you really think they want to be rolling around in authoritarian looking vehicles?

[MarkyMark]

It'll be interesting to see how close the production model actually is. No side mirrors is still illegal at the moment, the light bar headlights and one above the windshield look illegal as fuck. I doubt those meaty mud terrain tires will make it to the final product if they want to keep their range numbers up. How about the rear end edges that will take your kids eye out if they are playing around it in the front yard?

Seems very much like a concept vehicle to drum up attention.

[Manic!]

I'm sure there are, just as some police departments have Lamborghinis and GTRs. They're specialty vehicles and are not the norm in their fleet. I'm sure they'll all be clean energy vehicles one day but this is not it. With today's attitude towards police, do you really think they want to be rolling around in authoritarian looking vehicles?

Used as a patrol car. Plan to replace the whole fleet with Tesla's.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6KTAzaGWNA


This is what police use in the states now.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fdoronlevin%2Ffiles%2F2019%2F05 %2F2020-Ford-Police-Interceptor-hybrid-2-1200x800.jpg

[!LittleDragon]

Used as a patrol car. Plan to replace the whole fleet with Tesla's.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6KTAzaGWNA




Bargersville is less than 5 square miles with a population of 4000. They can get away with an electric car if they're just sitting at the station most of the time.

[twitchyzero]

which sharp edge are you referring to? doesn't seem any significantly more dangerous to peds than say a Suburban or other 6000 lbs bricks

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?resize=2000%2C2000%2Cshrink&image_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fcreatr-uploaded-images%2F2019-11%2F4b927700-0d0c-11ea-a2fb-e057be0012c3&client=a1acac3e1b3290917d92&signature=233ab281984a1d5995ae46a4ce6420783001731c

let's say this really does break hips ,they simply just add another flat plane, done

[twitchyzero]

No side mirrors is still illegal at the moment

How about the rear end edges that will take your kids eye out if they are playing around it in the front yard?


quite a few EV are forgoing side mirrors for cameras to reduce drag...and honestly Tesla features like Smart Summon are illegal, yes in production vehicles in the thousands on our roads right now...doesn't mean they're gonna get taken off the road, just gonna take a while for legislation/public reaction to catch up to what's acceptable in society

your last statement sounds like fear of the unkown, if you're really worried just bubble wrap it

https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/tesla-cybertruck-closed-bed-storage-e1574444601543.jpg

[Manic!]

Bargersville is less than 5 square miles with a population of 4000. They can get away with an electric car if they're just sitting at the station most of the time.

Fremont pop over 230k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlh08OPRCZU

Luxembourg police have 2 pop 600k.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxembourg-tesla/luxembourg-police-deploy-tesla-cars-to-help-nab-criminals-idUSKBN1KA1I0

And more coming.

[twitchyzero]

even though i think the model 3 front end is a joke that the model X looks worse than a 90s Previa, don't forget von Holzhausen was the one who brought us the Furai

https://www.car-revs-daily.com/wp-content/uploads/Concept-Flashback-2008-Mazda-Furai-is-450HP-Rotary-LMP2-Car-That-Met-Two-Tragic-Ends-6.jpg

[!LittleDragon]

which sharp edge are you referring to? doesn't seem any significantly more dangerous to peds than say a Suburban or other 6000 lbs bricks

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?resize=2000%2C2000%2Cshrink&image_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fcreatr-uploaded-images%2F2019-11%2F4b927700-0d0c-11ea-a2fb-e057be0012c3&client=a1acac3e1b3290917d92&signature=233ab281984a1d5995ae46a4ce6420783001731c

let's say this really does break hips ,they simply just add another flat plane, done

I probably should've said edges and corners. The corners above the headlights could cut someone easily. There's no way this can pass pedestrian safety crash tests as is. I can see them bringing that lower front bumper forward. I don't think the hood is allowed to be further forward than the bumper like that.

[MarkyMark]

quite a few EV are forgoing side mirrors for cameras to reduce drag...and honestly Tesla features like Smart Summon are illegal, yes in production vehicles in the thousands on our roads right now...doesn't mean they're gonna get taken off the road, just gonna take a while for legislation/public reaction to catch up to what's acceptable in society

your last statement sounds like fear of the unkown, if you're really worried just bubble wrap it


I just don't think they'll release a truck with a point like that. Loading and unloading shit out of your bed and you have to watch from catching yourself on a jagged edge as you come around the side all in the name of style?

[!LittleDragon]

Luxembourg police have 2 pop 600k.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxembourg-tesla/luxembourg-police-deploy-tesla-cars-to-help-nab-criminals-idUSKBN1KA1I0

And more coming.

Both are pilot projects. From the article

"But Lentz said it was too early to say whether Luxembourg would buy more Tesla cars. Local media said the police had paid some 100,000 euros ($116,450) for each car due to special police requirements. Police declined to confirm the figure."

Life of a police vehicle is rough. That's a lot of money to spend on something that could be wrecked the next day because they had to purposely ram another vehicle. Got some interesting results googling for "Tesla police car" though.

[Koflach]

Bargersville is less than 5 square miles with a population of 4000. They can get away with an electric car if they're just sitting at the station most of the time.

you do know the model 3 has a range of over 300 miles or 500 km.

[!LittleDragon]

you do know the model 3 has a range of over 300 miles or 500 km.

Yes I do... that's why I said it's okay for a small town. It's okay if they forget to plug the car in once in a while.

[Manic!]

Yes I do... that's why I said it's okay for a small town. It's okay if they forget to plug the car in once in a while.

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/29/fremont-police-department-pushes-back-about-tesla-low-battery-fud/

“Our Department has unfortunately been in the news this week for an incident involving our electric police patrol vehicle (Tesla Model S). We first deployed the Tesla in March of this year as a fully outfitted patrol vehicle. Over the first six months, the performance feedback and initial data collection has been very positive and we are in early discussions of expanding the program. During a pursuit last Friday night, the battery charge began to run low, and we’d like the opportunity to clarify and provide additional context with regard to what occurred.

“On Friday afternoon, a patrol officer checked out our Tesla patrol vehicle at the start of his shift and noticed the battery was half-charged. A typical battery at full charge ranges from 220–240 miles and during an 11 hour patrol shift, Fremont patrol officers drive approximately 70–90 miles. While not policy, we recommend officers begin their shift with at least a half tank of gas or in this case, a battery charge of 50%. On this date, our officer driving the Tesla noted approximately 50% of battery life when he began his shift. While the vehicle is routinely charged between shifts, on Friday the vehicle had just been returned from our Corporation Yard. The vehicle is regularly returning at the end of every shift with 40–60%, if not more, of the battery charge remaining.

“Nine hours into the officer’s shift, at 11:05 p.m., he became involved in a vehicle pursuit that lasted a total of 8 minutes. The pursuit began in our Irvington District and traveled on Washington Blvd., before merging southbound onto I 680 towards San Jose. Within minutes, two additional Fremont patrol units were behind the Tesla and in the pursuit. Additionally, the California Highway Patrol (CHP) was notified and responding. As standard protocol, once CHP has sufficient units, they take over our pursuits on the freeway.

[Koflach]

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/29/fremont-police-department-pushes-back-about-tesla-low-battery-fud/

Yeah, stuff like this is going to happen during the growing pains of new technology being introduced to people who aren't use to it but this is clearly the exception and not the rule. Hopefully this is a lesson learned for the member and they know that they should stop for a donut and get a charge.

[Harvey Specter]

which sharp edge are you referring to? doesn't seem any significantly more dangerous to peds than say a Suburban or other 6000 lbs bricks

https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?resize=2000%2C2000%2Cshrink&image_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fcreatr-uploaded-images%2F2019-11%2F4b927700-0d0c-11ea-a2fb-e057be0012c3&client=a1acac3e1b3290917d92&signature=233ab281984a1d5995ae46a4ce6420783001731c

let's say this really does break hips ,they simply just add another flat plane, done


Lol, there is no way this truck in it's current form would be approved for road use.

[twitchyzero]

i'm no iihs officer but i ain't too concerned esp when these are on the roads

https://imagescdn.dealercarsearch.com/Media/1572/12601026/636923866729479120.jpg

https://image.iol.co.za/image/1/process/620x349?source=https://inm-baobab-prod-eu-west-1.s3.amazonaws.com/public/inm/iol/media/image/2019/07/22/29650688/Hennessey-GOLIATH-6X6-7-min.jpg&operation=CROP&offset=0x209&resize=2000x1123

[MarkyMark]

To be fair, at least we know the driver is awake in those vehicles.

[SkinnyPupp]

Size comparison between Model 3 and Cybertruck

https://i.imgur.com/QHa3iJC.png

It's as big as it is fugly and these damn things will be everywhere lol DansGame

[Hondaracer]

In terms of a commercial success as well, this truck is pretty much 100% relying on the North American market.

Tesla’s and EV’s in general are almost non existent in Europe. Even places like London you’d be hard pressed to spot a handful over a few days. And almost no one drives half tonne pickups over there, let alone this thing

[GIZZ]

If you think a welder would ever buy this thing you’ve never met a welder lol.

As much as they want to tote this as some kind of trades solution, I can pretty much guarantee you this thing ain’t gonna be parked at many job sites.

Also, it will be a decade or more before EV trucks ever have the long range towing payload of a one tonne or 3/4 tonne diesel. The guy with the 3500 Cummins will be in Calgary towing a 5th wheel trailer a day and a half before the Tesla has made its 6th stop to charge in the kootneys

For long range, stick a diesel(or gas) generator in the bed. Basically made your own diesel hybrid vehicle. For sure somebody will market this.

[twitchyzero]

if you want a hybrid get the upcoming Tundra

In terms of a commercial success as well, this truck is pretty much 100% relying on the North American market.

Tesla’s and EV’s in general are almost non existent in Europe. Even places like London you’d be hard pressed to spot a handful over a few days. And almost no one drives half tonne pickups over there, let alone this thing

same can be said about any pick-ups (possibly some niches like Australia too)...regardless the home market is massive as a few million units are moved each year

Scandinavia is leading the EV wave

deposits hit 200k yesterday

[Manic!]

When I was in Europe a few years back I saw one pickup truck and it was a F150. Thats one in 11 days.

In my copy of Septembers police law enforcement magazine.

https://i.imgur.com/gVgWfct.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gDkTN9l.jpg

add on armor kit for police cars.

https://i.imgur.com/cg4Ho99.jpg

Dodge Durango pursuit 40K. Now if you add the armor that only covers the front door you are looking at spending close to $45000. Only 15k less than a Tesla truck that's fully covered in armor and thats faster. Add the fuel/maintenance savings plus the better resale value it would be cheaper to get the Tesla.

I wonder how many cans of this you will need to polish the truck.

https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/11UT04_AS01?$zmmain$

[yray]

I wonder how many cans of this you will need to polish the truck.

https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/11UT04_AS01?$zmmain$

hah, real polishers use this
https://www.calfast.com/16541-m/lacquer-thinner.jpg

[twitchyzero]

doug dee think it's a bad value...but forgot to take into account a truck's awful fuel economy/costs

https://youtu.be/Q-0DdRHA-ZQ

[MarkyMark]

Let's be honest, even if Tesla made the perfect truck it's going to have a hard time making any kind of significant dent in the pickup market. The brand loyalists have already written it off, it's just the way it is they wouldn't sway if a better truck got up and slapped them in the face. Then you got the people who actually use their truck for work and depend on it for a living. Chances are they're out because the Tesla is unproven. People who tow a lot? Yeah they want to fill up and be on their way, not wait around to charge.

Up next you have guys like me, I don't NEED a truck but I like the versatility of having the bed when I need it and being able to take it places a regular car can't go. I'm out because the Tesla won't fit in my garage and I have no place to charge it outside. Maybe some people have different situations but I'm sure many are in the same boat.

So you're pretty much left with the group of people who buy Nissan Titans and Honda Ridgelines. Go check out how well they have cracked the market. Once Ford drops their electric F150 that number will drop even more. I'm sure their will be some initial craze for it and Tesla won't be able to keep up with the demand cause they make only one truck a day, but I expect it to be a sliver of overall truck sales.

I've been wrong before but that's my guess.

[Manic!]

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
200k
6:18 PM · Nov 24, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

That's in 3 days. How many Mach E mustangs has ford sold?

[Dbone]

When I was in Europe a few years back I saw one pickup truck and it was a F150. Thats one in 11 days.



Pickup trucks (at least in the UK outside of London) seem to be somewhat fashionable right now.

Nothing like here though.

[MarkyMark]

That's in 3 days. How many Mach E mustangs has ford sold?

They haven't sold anything, a $100 fully refundable deposit isn't a sale. If this deposit wasn't refundable I bet 80+% of these "orders" wouldn't exist.

[twitchyzero]

well duh, it's a concept vehicle 2+ years out

even if you order a production Toyota/GM vehicle, the deposit is refundable

[punkwax]

Dear 8lb, 7oz. Baby Jesus,

Please allow this to be a mighty prank with the real Tesla truck being unveiled in short order.

Amen.

[welfare]

Next time, on South Park...

Personally I think Elon is trolling everyone with this truck hence why he's only asked for a $100 deposit. He'll probably show the "real" truck at some point.

Also, great time for his buddies to buy Tesla stock on the dip.

[ziggyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ0waIKGy-4

[Hehe]

That's in 3 days. How many Mach E mustangs has ford sold?

I read it somewhere that one of the major mags said Ford got 14k pre-order in til that day, so over a week after the announcement.

Seriously though, truckers are hard to please. There have been an eternal fight between Ford/GMC/RAM supporters. No matter what Tesla introduced, they were not going to be pleased.

That's why I think it was very smart of Tesla to make decisions to go after people who need a PU truck rather than people who drive a PU truck.

[GIZZ]

Ford wants a $500 refundable deposit. I bet if they made it $100 they would have more pre orders.

Tesla wanted $1000 for the model 3. They are doing a good job marketing the cybertruck.

[Manic!]

Ford wants a $500 refundable deposit. I bet if they made it $100 they would have more pre orders.

Tesla wanted $1000 for the model 3. They are doing a good job marketing the cybertruck.

Even at $100 I don't think they would get that many more orders. To put down a deposit you have to set up an appointment with a dealer and that's kind of a pain. What takes less than 5 minutes with Tesla it takes an hour plus with Ford. Also with Tesla you don't get phone calls and texts if you decide not to put down a deposit.

[Hehe]

Even at $100 I don't think they would get that many more orders. To put down a deposit you have to set up an appointment with a dealer and that's kind of a pain. What takes less than 5 minutes with Tesla it takes an hour plus with Ford. Also with Tesla you don't get phone calls and texts if you decide not to put down a deposit.

Yeah... the no-dealership approach is going to ultimately win people over the same way e-commerce did to B&M retails. Once you get used to it, there's no going back.

No need to haggle or anything... just transparent and simple. That's all it needs to be. With traditional car dealership, depending on how good of a negotiator one is, the price of the very same car varies (assuming everything else stay equal). There's no need for that. Only reason that exists is to maximize dealer's profit, so dealer can get the most out of a person's willingness to pay for a particular vehicle.

[twitchyzero]

definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?

[AzNightmare]

https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/1198825358226669573

lol, fanart:

https://oss.yorkapi.com/media/7bba619ce71231e80b7a57df2e8a4339.jpg

https://oss.yorkapi.com/media/a8ac5a7fce81d657253fe04ca29a592e.jpg

[Hehe]

definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?

DeLorean is very different than Cybertruck. Delorean is still a body on frame design, while CT exoskeleton is unibody.

You can get a better idea looking at Honda Ridgeline than Delorean.

[hud 91gt]

definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?

I don’t think there is enough information on the design of the truck to claim how their “exoskeleton” design works. But 80% of the cars on the road are unibody.

I think the point your getting at is the stainless panels. With today’s body shop techniques, your probably right. Cutting out and welding in new stainless isn’t an issue. Finding some skilled panel beaters that can do the whole job without any fillers will be another scenario. It’s doable with the right skilled hands, but time consuming and honestly, not many people out there have those skills anymore. More than likely all the panels are replaceable just like every other car on the road. Exoskeleton was just a fancy way to say unibody and try and put down the body on frame trucks.

[Berzerker]

What if the panels are somewhat interchangeable and they offer different styling options....

Berz out.

[twitchyzero]

^ they want to release a matte black option...i bet you can get it wrapped in an hour or two

this was a decent analysis

https://youtu.be/ND2X49-aBFQ?t=322

[Koflach]

^ they want to release a matte black option...i bet you can get it wrapped in an hour or two

this was a decent analysis

https://youtu.be/ND2X49-aBFQ?t=322

yes, you can wrap it. https://dbrand.com/shop/tesla-cybertruck-skins

[77civic1200]

^I love that the truck is still years out and that company is showing "sale" prices.

[twitchyzero]

with broken windows :confused:

[coneZONE]

the one and only electric truck i'd advocate for is the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 Series electric conversion performed by Tembo (although i think there's another company out there that also converts the Land Cruiser).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/08/12/690812b3b6ab837258d099b82786de64.jpg
It's a shame the Land Cruiser isn't certified for on-road use in Canada (mines and off-road use only). But should be able to be registered after 15 years...

https://www.tembo4x4-elv.com/
https://www.tembo4x4-elv.com/Technical-Specs

Although the specs aren't as high as a consumer would maybe expect, keep in mind that its mainly made for mine use, so range isn't really an issue for those purposes.
Technical Data
Electric Power (Max./ Cont.): 110kW / 65kW
Motor Torque (Max./ Cont.): 250Nm / 165Nm
Max. Torque on wheels: 1866Nm
Maximum speed On-road: 80 km/h
Cont. speed Off-road @15%: 35 km/h
Max. Gradeability: 45%
Range: 80km(28kWh)/160km(56kWh)

[twitchyzero]

but that's a pussy import truck :derp:

[fliptuner]

So it would last forever?

Imo the perfect all around work, play, tow truck would be the CC 4x4 Dyna. Configure the bed however you want (flatdeck, tilt, box w/folding sides, cube), lightweight, small footprint. Function > form.

https://img.favcars.com/toyota/dyna/wallpapers_toyota_dyna_1996_1_b.jpg

[twitchyzero]

mine has to be a keitora...esp the 90s sambar from fuji heavy (aka subaru)

https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/cars_images/1002.png

[hud 91gt]

So it would last forever?

Imo the perfect all around work, play, tow truck would be the CC 4x4 Dyna. Configure the bed however you want (flatdeck, tilt, box w/folding sides, cube), lightweight, small footprint. Function > form.

https://img.favcars.com/toyota/dyna/wallpapers_toyota_dyna_1996_1_b.jpg

But can you get them in LHD? I searched for a while for an older diesel offering of this style truck. They only seem to use them in the wrong parts of the world... except maybe Korea :suspicious:

[fliptuner]

https://carsexport.eu/toyota-dyna-tdy7c.html

[hud 91gt]

https://carsexport.eu/toyota-dyna-tdy7c.html

1400KG tow capacity, what the shit is that. That’s rav4 territory. Lol

[fliptuner]

https://www.autotrader.com.au/toyota/dyna/towing-capacity/2003

Like any other truck, it depends how you order it. 7700lbs is well over what my trailers/loads are.

[underscore]

But can you get them in LHD? I searched for a while for an older diesel offering of this style truck. They only seem to use them in the wrong parts of the world... except maybe Korea :suspicious:

Nothing in Central America?

[Hondaracer]

the one and only electric truck i'd advocate for is the Toyota Land Cruiser 70 Series electric conversion performed by Tembo (although i think there's another company out there that also converts the Land Cruiser).
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/08/12/690812b3b6ab837258d099b82786de64.jpg
It's a shame the Land Cruiser isn't certified for on-road use in Canada (mines and off-road use only). But should be able to be registered after 15 years...

https://www.tembo4x4-elv.com/
https://www.tembo4x4-elv.com/Technical-Specs

Although the specs aren't as high as a consumer would maybe expect, keep in mind that its mainly made for mine use, so range isn't really an issue for those purposes.

Kinda seems somewhat bastardized to create an EV out of one of, if not THE most reliable vehicle/power train the world has ever seen.

[Jmac]

Kinda seems somewhat bastardized to create an EV out of one of, if not THE most reliable vehicle/power train the world has ever seen.
Yeah but then you can recharge it with diesel generators with much worse emissions controls than a passenger vehicle ...

[!LittleDragon]

Yeah but then you can recharge it with diesel generators with much worse emissions controls than a passenger vehicle ...

Sounds like it'd be easier to just sell some TSLA stock and buy a Unimog.

[hud 91gt]

Nothing in Central America?

I didn’t look that hard.
Possibly? Only thing went South/Central America. All those vehicles are beat to crap.

[Hehe]

Watched a few "why I'm buying the Cybertruck", I think this one is the closest thing to what I feel.

He uses it for work a bit here and there, while I mostly need to carry family stuff. But still, the similarity is there.

We both need something that will both haul stuff while still be an excellent family car. And I think CT does exactly that.

https://youtu.be/d4nDL18N33I?t=1417

[Great68]

https://youtu.be/d4nDL18N33I?t=1417

He's basically saying his truck is useless because he only bought the extended cab. News flash, buy the crew cab and you can still do all those things in comfort. His fault for not planning ahead.

[Manic!]

Love it or hate when is the last time a new vehicle has had a 7 plus page post on RS in such a short time. Look at how many YouTubers have placed a pre-order many who have non-automotive focused channels. That's going to be a lot of content.

With a 6.5 foot bed, you could use the built-in air compressor to fill up an air mattress roll down the shutter and sleep in the back. If it gets cold you could plug in a small heater. In the morning you could plug in a hotplate to cook your breakfast. Mount a Starlink dish to the truck and you will have high-speed internet anywhere in the world.
If you need more power/range install some Tesla powerwall battery packs in the back.

[Hondaracer]

Love it or hate when is the last time a new vehicle has had a 7 plus page post on RS in such a short time. Look at how many YouTubers have placed a pre-order many who have non-automotive focused channels. That's going to be a lot of content.

With a 6.5 foot bed, you could use the built-in air compressor to fill up an air mattress roll down the shutter and sleep in the back. If it gets cold you could plug in a small heater. In the morning you could plug in a hotplate to cook your breakfast. Mount a Starlink dish to the truck and you will have high-speed internet anywhere in the world.
If you need more power/range install some Tesla powerwall battery packs in the back.

Easy there CiC..

[Manic!]

Easy there CiC..

How many vanlife channels are there on youtube?

Truck mentality has not changed in decades. Every truck that comes out looks the same with only small bumps in specs. A little more power, some more towing capacity, some added creature comforts. This truck is going to be used in ways people never thought of using a truck or car.

[danned]

https://i.redd.it/d5ooyin3by141.png
https://i.redd.it/yjrak14ajp141.jpg

https://pics.me.me/the-first-telsa-cybertruck-arrives-in-texas-15-minutes-later-65959299.png
https://icdn3.digitaltrends.com/image/digitaltrends/lego-tesla-cybertruck-1200x630-c-ar1.91.jpg
https://sm.mashable.com/t/mashable_sea/fun/t/this-tesla/this-tesla-cybertruck-sculpted-out-of-mashed-potatoes-is-a-m_rk85.960.png

[underscore]

Love it or hate when is the last time a new vehicle has had a 7 plus page post on RS in such a short time. Look at how many YouTubers have placed a pre-order many who have non-automotive focused channels. That's going to be a lot of content.

They have a $100 refundable deposit. That's not a pre-order. I doubt even a fraction of those people will actually buy one.

With a 6.5 foot bed, you could use the built-in air compressor to fill up an air mattress roll down the shutter and sleep in the back. If it gets cold you could plug in a small heater. In the morning you could plug in a hotplate to cook your breakfast. Mount a Starlink dish to the truck and you will have high-speed internet anywhere in the world.
If you need more power/range install some Tesla powerwall battery packs in the back.

You can do every single one of those things with any truck that has a 6.5' bed for a fraction of the price. None of that is exclusive to this thing.

This truck is going to be used in ways people never thought of using a truck or car.

That's what everyone says about every slightly quirky truck (Avalanche, Ridgeline, etc), and then nobody buys them.

[fliptuner]

Cybertuk tuk?

https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aV0vn38_700b.jpg

[Hondaracer]

Newish Toyota Tacoma’s already have 120V outlet in the bed, on top of the numerous anchor points for their endless selection of options from tents to storage units etc. And the amount of people that take advantage of them are probably in the single digits of owners

I’m not trying to bash this truck but to think the EV generational buyer is all of a sudden going to turn into this crazy outdoorsman because of features already available in other vehicles with not nearly the 3rd party support that Toyota etc. Offer seems like viewing this through rose coloured glasses.

[Hehe]

IMO the bold move on the design seems to be paying off. Some institutional buyers (namely police departments) are looking to get cozy with Cybertruck.

Which makes a lot of sense really. First, they want to make a statement: police is here, behave yourself! Plus, any vehicle with any sort of resistance to bullets is going to cost an arm and legs. Now they can get some basic resistance to smaller bullets for the cost of a regular vehicle.

Sure I am biased as hell as both a Tesla owner and shareholder, but after seeing the Cybertruck and now looking at other pickup trucks and they feel so... dated?

I'd love to see some better pickup design coming out of major truck companies. It's about time.
For cars we went from the boxes in the early 20th century to the absolute whack of a design say modern Ferraris and Lambos... and even more domesticated cars like Honda/Toyota design has changed a lot through the last few decades.

It's almost unbelievable that pickup stayed relatively the same for the last 50yrs. Which brings the question, is it really the best design already or manufacturer simply didn't dare to think out of the box?

[Manic!]

https://i1.wp.com/africazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/tesla-cybertruck-set-to-join-dubai-police-fleet-in-2020.jpg?fit=744%2C400

Because they have to have one of everything.

[Manic!]

Newish Toyota Tacoma’s already have 120V outlet in the bed, on top of the numerous anchor points for their endless selection of options from tents to storage units etc. And the amount of people that take advantage of them are probably in the single digits of owners

I’m not trying to bash this truck but to think the EV generational buyer is all of a sudden going to turn into this crazy outdoorsman because of features already available in other vehicles with not nearly the 3rd party support that Toyota etc. Offer seems like viewing this through rose coloured glasses.

120v at how many amps and for how long? We have a company in Nanaimo https://www.vmacair.com/ they make vehicle-mounted air compressors. The cybertruck has it built-in and it's designed for air tools.

[68style]

^
But if this is the dream of the future...??? I’m kind of glad I’ll be dead before any of it takes hold

[Great68]

1 The cybertruck has it built-in and it's designed for air tools.

The laws of physics still apply to the cybertruck. If you want to use much more than air nailers or a wheel gun intermittently, you're looking at a 5+ horsepower compressor. That's going to be some significant power draw, I seriously doubt it's going to be that big.

[Manic!]

The laws of physics still apply to the cybertruck. If you want to use much more than air nailers or a wheel gun intermittently, you're looking at a 5+ horsepower compressor. That's going to be some significant power draw, I seriously doubt it's going to be that big.

It has 220 so you could run somthing like this.

https://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-2V41C60VC-Air-Compressor/p855.html

But who knows what it is running.

[twitchyzero]

the taco still has drum brakes, pretty choppy transmission and poor gas consumption

[underscore]

The cybertruck has it built-in and it's designed for air tools.

Without the specs that could mean it can barely run a pin nailer, but if it's got the waft to run an impact gun strong enough to get its own lugnuts off that'd be a pretty handy upgrade over the usual weenie little tire iron you get.

[fliptuner]

Also depends how big the tank is.

[yray]

taco inverter can't even run a rice cooker or microwave lol

it's a lie and waste of time

you're better running a dual battery set up for compressor on taco instead of plugging it in

you can run as much voltage as you want, its the amperage that matters

[!LittleDragon]

DIY Perpetual Motion machine if you charge the car off the 220V outlet :lol

[Manic!]

That's what everyone says about every slightly quirky truck (Avalanche, Ridgeline, etc), and then nobody buys them.

I own a Ridgeline.

[hud 91gt]

^that made me laugh. Lol.


On another note, science is cool.

https://youtu.be/S4W-P5aCWJs

[Marco.911]

definitely one of the pro's of tesla...cutting out the middle man

anyone ever repair a delorean body? damage to panels likely mean a write-off?

I agree with your comment above that they cut out the middle man. My only concern when I purchased a Tesla was it was still in line with the price of other cars in the same category, M5, E63 etc. In fact after options and rebates etc I was much higher.

I’m aware of the production costs being on the higher side for these cars so it would be nice to see if cutting out the middle translates into a better price for consumers.

[twitchyzero]

^ Tesla sold here seems to be a direct conversion from USD, where as many traditional automakers when you drive am example off the lot actually works out a bit cheaper in canada even with our outrageous taxes compared to US dealers

in other meme/news:

cybunker aka alienware PC
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/12/Tesla-Cybertruck-Cybunker-hero.jpg?w=2500&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1

nuts already getting into heated copyright wars

https://i.redd.it/sdswkzvqmn141.jpg

https://www.motor1.com/news/387421/cybertruck-copyright-dispute-truck-nuts/

a very worthwhile analysis from the gentleman who talked down on the model 3's build quality

https://youtu.be/zLwjAj53PL0?t=120

his firm consults for designs like this

https://www.army-technology.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/10/General-Dynamics-Stryker-A1-MCWS-Cropped-e1570790516518.jpg

[twitchyzero]

any guesses on the length of the tailgate?

won't fit the garage with it opened...same length as SCrew 6.5ft bed which already has less than 3ft of play if parked indoor

[twitchyzero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM

[GIZZ]

Well shit, they are going to shrink it by 5%.

With everything going on in the world, and potential delays. Who else is rethinking their order?

[320icar]

I didn’t pre-order but will be extremely interested in pricing once it’s actually released. I don’t want a 2wd truck, But definitely can’t afford the dual motor. With having a son now I’m going to be watching that cybertruck with great interest

[MarkyMark]

Well shit, they are going to shrink it by 5%.

With everything going on in the world, and potential delays. Who else is rethinking their order?

He released a statement afterwards saying they aren't going to shrink it anymore, and they may make a smaller truck down the line.

[twitchyzero]

they dont even have a factory to build the trucks yet, got some time to save and see what's available in a few years (ford, gm, rivian etc)

[320icar]

So what’s the deal here. Is this just vapourware or is it eventually coming out?

Not like I put money down. But with the ford lightning and hummer EV coming out… what gives

[Great68]

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets ditched and remains vapourware. The main thing going for it was the potential first to market factor, which is obviously gone now.

[Manic!]

So what’s the deal here. Is this just vapourware or is it eventually coming out?

Not like I put money down. But with the ford lightning and hummer EV coming out… what gives

The new timeline from musk has it coming out in mid 2023 with a price higher than first announced. Rivian is also now delivering trucks.

[quasi]

So what’s the deal here. Is this just vapourware or is it eventually coming out?

Not like I put money down. But with the ford lightning and hummer EV coming out… what gives

Musk was on the fullsend podcast last week he talked about it briefly, they still plan to make it but because it's so different than anything else it's taking longer than they thought.

[JDMDreams]

Time to get a Hummer? :pokerface: I'm surprised that made it first

[Alpine]

It'll come out eventually but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets delayed again and comes out as a 2025 model. Not defending Tesla, but they have their hands full with getting the Berlin & Texas factories up and running and they just removed the ability to order the Tesla Model 3 LR due to supply chain constraints.

I don't think Tesla is concerned. The people that would seriously buy the Cybertruck aren't going to buy a Rivian/Silverado/F150. It's a different market and they will wait.

[GIZZ]

Like the roadster that's taking forever. He can't yet build it with the promised range and performance at the advertised prices, they need technology to catch up.

[twitchyzero]

spacex thrusters turned roadster into a blatant vapourware

i think cybertruck will still come but they went back to the drawing board to better compete with the rivian and the price will surely reflect it

[unit]

this things gonna cost twice as much and look twice as pedestrian as the videos/photos as well.

[Manic!]

In June musk said the design for the truck has been finalized.

https://insideevs.com/news/593833/musk-confirms-tesla-cybertruck-design-finally-locked/

Tesla has lost sales because of the delay. People have bought f-150's and Rivians. I have a pre order but probably will not need a truck by then.

[MarkyMark]

Between the weird design and the competition already ahead of them is this going to be anything more than a niche product? I wonder what the final price will end up being as well since they initially tried to make it cheap but clearly that ain't happening.

[Bender Unit]

Tesla charging infrastructure :accepted:

This is VERY important with any EV

just look around in any parkade or shopping mall and try to find a charging spot

[MarkyMark]

Aren't they opening the Tesla charging stations to other EVs soon or was that all bullshit?

[bomberR17]

Aren't they opening the Tesla charging stations to other EVs soon or was that all bullshit?

https://insideevs.com/news/604943/tesla-briefly-opens-supercharger-membership-non-tesla-ev/

It's coming, they actually accidentally turned on supercharger subscription on the app last night so we get some idea of what it may be. Seems like it'll be similar to Electrify America.

[Koflach]

Tesla charging infrastructure :accepted:

This is VERY important with any EV

just look around in any parkade or shopping mall and try to find a charging spot

For anyone who owns an EV, the charging infrastructure is probably their biggest buying factor in getting another EV. For me, until other companies get on the Tesla network, I will only buy a Tesla EV. The first company that signs on to Tesla's charging network will be the first serious competitor for Tesla as it is their best selling feature.

[Badhobz]

^is that only because you wanna road trip with it?

I figure id be charging at home 100% of the time so i don't see why the infrastructure network matters.

[JDMDreams]

99% charge at home, but then in 3 years we've had visitors come for the first time, so supercharging either down in the States or daily top up so the battery is full is convenient. The car is getting driven more or out so there not as much down time to let it 120v charge.