[vitaminG]

Discuss all things bbq, better here than in Corona thread.

I'm currently looking for a natural gas Weber Genesis 2 ce-330 from Costco but they don't seem to have any in stock. Anyone have any other suggestions for ~$1k bbq with side burner?

[Ludepower]

Is BBQ on a condo balcony worth it? I'm worried about the mess and clean up with grease. Do the neighbors get annoyed with the smoke?

[tegra7]

Anyone else here swear by charcoal bbq?

[EvoFire]

Is BBQ on a condo balcony worth it? I'm worried about the mess and clean up with grease. Do the neighbors get annoyed with the smoke?

Might want to double check your strata bylaws first. Some draconian stratas do not allow BBQ on baloney.

[MarkyMark]

I'm looking into the Weber Spirit II E 250, it's just me and the wife so I don't think we'll need anything bigger than a 2 burner. Anyone have any other recommendations?

[bcrdukes]

Is BBQ on a condo balcony worth it? I'm worried about the mess and clean up with grease. Do the neighbors get annoyed with the smoke?

You'll need to check with your strata by-laws. Some condos do not allow it and you can potentially get slapped with a fine by the strata with the possibility of making enemies with your neighbours.

Anyone else here swear by charcoal bbq?

My folks swear by charcoal. We grew up using charcoal to BBQ and it was great. We switched over to propane when our family BBQs got bigger and bigger, so convenience was the trade off, but it's just nowhere near as good as charcoal. My parents still pull out the charcoal hibachi once in a while for smaller BBQs.

[roastpuff]

Is BBQ on a condo balcony worth it? I'm worried about the mess and clean up with grease. Do the neighbors get annoyed with the smoke?

For me, as I have a bigger balcony, it is worth it. Strata allows propane but not pellet or charcoal, sadly. If you keep your BBQ clean, it won't smoke that much if you get it nice and hot.

[Ch28]

Is BBQ on a condo balcony worth it? I'm worried about the mess and clean up with grease. Do the neighbours get annoyed with the smoke?

It depends on a few different factors

How often will you really use it
How open is your balcony for airflow
Does your strata by-laws allow for it?


Most BBQs will have a grease pan that you can remove to empty out it out after use, so the grease shouldn't be that big of an issue.

Neighbours will only get annoyed if there's poor ventilation in the area and all the smoke gets blown into their condo. The more open your balcony is, the less issues you'll run into. You also have to consider that a poorly ventilated balcony means you'll also get that smell in your own condo.

I believe all stratas have banned charcoal BBQs for safety reason, so you'll only be able to use propane BBQs. If you do get one, I highly recommend getting a brand new propane tank from somewhere like Costco (theirs usually comes with a gauge so you know how much is left) because it's cheaper in the long run.

[The Producer]

As mentioned in the c19 thread, check out Johnstones in North Van or Surrey for all your BBQ needs.

Support a local family business that's basically an institution in NV. The sons run the shops now. Big box stores all sell BBQ's at cost or below to get you in to buy the accessories. The kid working at costco doesn't know sht about the products, and won't be able to help you find the right unit (if you have a choice at all).

https://www.johnstones.com/

For me, had to go propane at our condo. I would love to have had a gas hookup, but it's not too bad to keep a spare pig in the dry box on the deck. Personally, I don't mind my neighbours cooking this way at all. It's WAY better than walking into the hallway and smelling everybody's indoor cooking. Catching a waft of a steak cooking somewhere nearby when I'm having a beer on the deck is one of the great pleasures of summer.

Get the rotisserie! Nothing like a little roasting chicken crackling away in there. Butter, Beer, Baste

[6793026]

I've had the pleasure of buying during winter season; i just take the floor model, pre assembled. It's awesome.

Having used 4 BBQ propane over the years, it's a love hate with side burner. Less space to put shit versus having a side burner. Can't think of osmething I couldn't just put the pot on the bbq instead of side burner.

Lastly, realized I don't cook that big portions anymore (and esp. covid, i went with no side burner and just put a cast iron put / pan on the grill instead.

Hate clean up, so to have ot take out another side table to put shit on was meh

[320icar]

Is BBQ on a condo balcony worth it? I'm worried about the mess and clean up with grease. Do the neighbors get annoyed with the smoke?

Check your bylaws. From my experience most wooden buildings won’t allow bbq, concrete ones might. Absolutely no charcoal at any time only propane/natural gas.

And yes it’s worth it for fucks sake

[bcrdukes]

Support a local family business that's basically an institution in NV. The sons run the shops now. Big box stores all sell BBQ's at cost or below to get you in to buy the accessories. The kid working at costco doesn't know sht about the products, and won't be able to help you find the right unit (if you have a choice at all).

https://www.johnstones.com/

Johnstone's is awesome!

Got both our propane and charcoal BBQs from them. Customer service is stellar. Cannot recommend them enough.

[320icar]

Anyone else here swear by charcoal bbq?

https://i.redd.it/av1ldpx8osl11.jpg

[fliptuner]

I got a used Genesis Silver 3 burner off CL, 5 years ago, spent a few hours sandblasting and painting some parts and about $250 on new burners, bars, grills and ignitor. For under $400 and a few hours, this thing is still like new and I can still get parts for it. I really like that it has a porcelain coated hood and composite counters cause I hate the look of stained stainless.

Anyways, you can find them on CL occasionally, for free or cheap and have yourself pretty much the last one you'll ever buy.

[Hondaracer]

I'm looking into the Weber Spirit II E 250, it's just me and the wife so I don't think we'll need anything bigger than a 2 burner. Anyone have any other recommendations?

So this is the spirit I just bought from Costco, E330 is the top model of the spirit line. 3 burners plus the sear burner, side burner, stainless build with ceramic coated grills

https://i.imgur.com/z4QzyP4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8udArev.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/t3L3It6.jpg

This same bbq is between 100-200 more expensive at other retailers and you don’t get the peice of mind of the Costco return policy. It’s pretty much 4.5/5 on every review site etc.

If you’re looking at Theo other spirits in a similar price range I think it’s worth it to spend a little more on this one. A big complaint of the lower end spirits is that below the grill is completely open so animals etc. Can get at the Grease trap and burners where as this one is completely Enclosed with the enclosure also housing the tank.

In hindsight I probably would have tried to go with johnstones etc and bought more locally however this was already stretching my budget and imo a great balance between price and quality.

Cooked some sausages last night and man, was a dream compared to my Canadian tire special that was all rusted out lol

[Great68]

Anyone else here swear by charcoal bbq?

I have both, and love them both. They both fill different needs.

The gas grill is for mid-week cooking when you need to grill quickly. Fast warm up, cool down, less effort, no brainer. For me it's as important an appliance for my cooking as my oven. It also has the rotissierie which I use often and is awesome.

The charcoal kamodo is like the enjoyable Artisanal method of cooking. It's more effort, takes longer, but more rewarding. I actually get excited and look forward to using it on weekends. You can do the low/slow smoking cooks that you can't do with a gas grill (well, you may be able to but it's not the same). It's supposed to be nice weather this weekend, I think I'm going to smoke some ribs...


But if I HAD to choose one over the other, it would be the gas grill.

http://www3.telus.net/bryster/20160417_115026.jpg

[320icar]

I’m propane thru and thru but I love how much more social charcoal is. It’s slow to warm up, food cooks when it cooks. Just sit back with friends/family and have some brews and enjoy the long summer nights

[Great68]

Having used 4 BBQ propane over the years, it's a love hate with side burner. Less space to put shit versus having a side burner. Can't think of osmething I couldn't just put the pot on the bbq instead of side burner.

My last cheap Home Depot BBQ had the traditional side burner. It was useless, not nearly enough heat output, waste of space that I never used. Considering my BBQ is like 5 steps away from my kitchen stove it was totally redundant.

The IR sear side burner however is totally a different story. I use it all the time. Cook a couple steaks (IE: in the winter when I don't use my charcoal) or a couple quick burgers without needing to heat up the entire BBQ and gives better flavour while it's at it.

[lowside67]

I'm looking into the Weber Spirit II E 250, it's just me and the wife so I don't think we'll need anything bigger than a 2 burner. Anyone have any other recommendations?
It's just my wife and I as well but I really recommend considering a 3 burner if you can fit it physically. The biggest benefit of a larger BBQ besides being able to put a large amount of food is the ability to create more distinct heat zones. I love being able to set my left burner at high, center at mid, and right at off and it really gives me a clear ability to shift food to hotter or cooler temps as I am cooking to equalize different types of food. I have the previous gen Weber Genesis 330 and love it.

-Mark

[Presto]

Grill mats (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B074M4YL2W) were a game-changer for me.

Meat cooks in it's own juices. Grill lines are still achieved. No grill to clean afterwards.

A simple 4oz cheeseburger comes out incredible. None of the cheese doesn't fall through the grill. It just crispifies on the edge of the patty.

[akira112]

Grill mats (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B074M4YL2W) were a game-changer for me.

Meat cooks in it's own juices. Grill lines are still achieved. No grill to clean afterwards.

A simple 4oz cheeseburger comes out incredible. None of the cheese doesn't fall through the grill. It just crispifies on the edge of the patty.

Looks interesting, will def look into these.
I was looking at getting grillgrates but the cost...

https://www.grillgrate.com/

[highfive]

https://bid.ableauctions.ca/NAPOLEON-MODEL-LEX605RSBIPSS-STAINLESS-STEEL-BARBECUE-WITH_i36951627

Can bid for this at the police auction.

This bbq shoould be $1000+

[Great68]

I'm not sure about those grill mats. "Cooking in juices" doesn't make sense to me as moisture inhibits the maillard reaction (the delicious browning crust). The whole point of grilling is that you want those juices to sear up on the burner giving it that delicious smoke/char flavour. If you're going to do that you might as well use a frying pan or griddle.
And teflon starts to deteriorate at 500degF, which is pretty low for grilling.

Grillgrates seem like a bandaid for a poor quality grill.

[Great68]

https://bid.ableauctions.ca/NAPOLEON-MODEL-LEX605RSBIPSS-STAINLESS-STEEL-BARBECUE-WITH_i36951627

Can bid for this at the police auction.

This bbq shoould be $1000+

The LEX is Napoleon's former top of the "Made in China" models. (The Prestige lines are the true made in Canada ones with better quality materials)

They were discontinued, replaced by the Rogue XT I believe. Still solid if you can get it for that price, but I wouldn't pay much more than that.

[MarkyMark]

So this is the spirit I just bought from Costco, E330 is the top model of the spirit line. 3 burners plus the sear burner, side burner, stainless build with ceramic coated grills

This same bbq is between 100-200 more expensive at other retailers and you don’t get the peice of mind of the Costco return policy. It’s pretty much 4.5/5 on every review site etc.

If you’re looking at Theo other spirits in a similar price range I think it’s worth it to spend a little more on this one. A big complaint of the lower end spirits is that below the grill is completely open so animals etc. Can get at the Grease trap and burners where as this one is completely Enclosed with the enclosure also housing the tank.

In hindsight I probably would have tried to go with johnstones etc and bought more locally however this was already stretching my budget and imo a great balance between price and quality.

Cooked some sausages last night and man, was a dream compared to my Canadian tire special that was all rusted out lol

Yeah that definitely seems like a good deal compared to the other stores. How is the assembly, i know the lower spirit models sound like they take quite a bit of time to put together. Also do one or both tables on the side fold down?

[Hondaracer]

The assembly pretty much took bang on 2 hours which some people complained about in the reviews etc. But it is very basic and very straightforward. It’s just a lot of steps

Neither side folds down unfortunately but you could live without the non-burner side and add it back on whenever you wish If space is a concern, it’s only 4 nuts and 2 plates

[MarkyMark]

The assembly pretty much took bang on 2 hours which some people complained about in the reviews etc. But it is very basic and very straightforward. It’s just a lot of steps

Neither side folds down unfortunately but you could live without the non-burner side and add it back on whenever you wish If space is a concern, it’s only 4 nuts and 2 plates

It looks like this model isn't available in natural gas unfortunately, I may have to go with the E310 then. It sounds like a 3 burner is the way to go at least

[Mr.Money]

whats up with Canadian tire pieces of shit rusting out anyway?,i just tried moving mine today and the legs starts falling out. :heckno:


the heat tray where it was welded in broke out on the very top.

[roastpuff]

whats up with Canadian tire pieces of shit rusting out anyway?,i just tried moving mine today and the legs starts falling out. :heckno:


the heat tray where it was welded in broke out on the very top.

That's what cheap BBQs do. Not enough galvanizing and protection against corrosion.

[MSREE]

Anyone else here swear by charcoal bbq?

Charcoal is superior for all in my family but if we use it, it’s a fucking all day affair lol. The men spend the day in the yard drinking and the women stay in the kitchen and keep prepping food to bring out to them until somebody stumbles in and tells us to stop like :rukidding:

We don’t have a large backyard between the families anymore so it’s propane for us now :alone: /sigh

[Great68]

That's what cheap BBQs do. Not enough galvanizing and protection against corrosion.

Yeah cheap stamped metal. Any BBQ with a firebox made out of thin gauge porcelain coated sheet metal has a limited lifespan before they burn out and fall apart.

In Contrast fireboxes made out of thick cast aluminum like the Webers or Napoleons will never burn out.

[roastpuff]

Yep! Instead of spending $300 on a Crappy Tire BBQ, I went and bought a used Genesis E-330 on Craigslist for the same money and ended up with a much better BBQ, with replaceable parts and much better build quality. Best purchase for my patio, bar none.

[dark0821]

https://bid.ableauctions.ca/NAPOLEON-MODEL-LEX605RSBIPSS-STAINLESS-STEEL-BARBECUE-WITH_i36951627

Can bid for this at the police auction.

This bbq shoould be $1000+

oh... this isn't good..... I just spent the past hour browsing the site.... fuck lol... wife's not gonna be happy about this....

[bcrdukes]

Able Auctions can become a deep rabbit hole very quickly.

[vitaminG]

Have to say I'm very glad I created this thread, just got a Weber genesis ce-330 from Johnstone's, for only $50 more than Costco who didn't even have in stock. Just have to wait for it to arrive from North Van unless I have time to go grab it

[bcrdukes]

A+ for Johnstone's!

This was a long time ago, but the original owner personally delivered our BBQs to us fully assembled. :) I don't know if they do that anymore. (I assume no given the COVID situation.)

[mikemhg]

^This.

Bought by grill from Johnstone's as well.

Damn thing took my almost 2 hours to assemble, only to find the grill box was cracked.

They came and delivered a new assembled one for me, and took back the other one, no problem at all.

I'd definitely buy from them again.

[bcrdukes]

Come to think of it, we bought our BBQs from Johnstone's 15 years ago. I know my folks still go there to get replacement parts for wear and tear items.

[punkwax]

Man.. I got horrible service from Johnstones. Glad you all got good service but I ordered a bunch of accessories for my Broil King Keg and the parts dude was consistently rude.

To make things awesome, I ordered the parts from N Van as they were opening the Surrey location around the same time. Was hoping I’d work with someone else at the new location when the parts arrived but as luck would have it, he was transferred there so I had to continue to deal with him lol FailFish

I guess it was just the one guy, but his attitude was so off-putting I haven’t spent a dime there since.

[blkgsr]

I got my Napoleon like 7 years ago from the bbq place in Poco on Broadway.



What do you guys do for cleaning/maintenance on your higher end BBQ's

[Hondaracer]

Do not buy those stupid wooden paddle scrapers they are shit, complete garbage

If anyone wants one I’ll give you my lightly used one for free, they are really only good for slim grills and even then it doesn’t really get down into the grooves

[Sw0op]

the genesis weber at costco was a good deal....but i think they sold out of that 2-3 months ago..they have this spirit one there now but it looks like an older model...i got a spirit e310 end of last year for $450 delivered bnib which is the newer version with no front storage doors..not sure i would spend $800 for a weber spirit if its an older version and you can get a genesis for $200 more...unless those were made in USA and the ones these days are not (made in china)?

[roastpuff]

I got my Napoleon like 7 years ago from the bbq place in Poco on Broadway.



What do you guys do for cleaning/maintenance on your higher end BBQ's

Once a season, I take out the grills and scrape down the sides of the fire box to remove build up. Same with the flame hoods (whatever they're called) to remove build up. Clean and oil the grates, etc.

[bcrdukes]

Man.. I got horrible service from Johnstones. Glad you all got good service but I ordered a bunch of accessories for my Broil King Keg and the parts dude was consistently rude.

To make things awesome, I ordered the parts from N Van as they were opening the Surrey location around the same time. Was hoping I’d work with someone else at the new location when the parts arrived but as luck would have it, he was transferred there so I had to continue to deal with him lol FailFish

I guess it was just the one guy, but his attitude was so off-putting I haven’t spent a dime there since.

lol ouch sorry to hear
guy must've been a complete noob

I'd follow up with a polite email to the owners to give them some feedback

[blkgsr]

Once a season, I take out the grills and scrape down the sides of the fire box to remove build up. Same with the flame hoods (whatever they're called) to remove build up. Clean and oil the grates, etc.

ya i typically just take the power washer to it

and soak and clean the grilles and stainless heat shield things

[nismodrifter]

I got a Napoleon Se425 natural gas. Assembled it recently. I have a large deck but appreciate that sides can fold down for storage. Loving it! Would definitely recommend.

[The Producer]

Man.. I got horrible service from Johnstones. Glad you all got good service but I ordered a bunch of accessories for my Broil King Keg and the parts dude was consistently rude.

To make things awesome, I ordered the parts from N Van as they were opening the Surrey location around the same time. Was hoping I’d work with someone else at the new location when the parts arrived but as luck would have it, he was transferred there so I had to continue to deal with him lol FailFish

I guess it was just the one guy, but his attitude was so off-putting I haven’t spent a dime there since.

that's a bummer - all i can say is that even if you don't shop at Johnstones, find another local supplier/small business to support.

(I know they struggled w the parts department for awhile - I believe they discontinued the wholesale side of it in order to better support end customers such as yourself)

[Eff-1]

We have a small condo balcony and needed a BBQ. Because of size, 2-burner was going to be the best option, and one we could easily roll around.

The original plan was Weber Spirit E210. I had a Weber Q at my last place and found Weber quality to be the best, and their warranty/parts dept was awesome. So I wanted to stay loyal to the brand.

Looking at the E210, I was actually more interested in the older model, for the fact it had 4 wheels, a closed cart, and both shelves folded. The upgraded model seemed a lot worse to me, with only one folding shelf, open cart, and two wheels. It's like they downgraded it.

Unfortunately the E210 however ended up being too large. So, we ended up going with Napoleon's 2-burner Rogue because of it's smaller footprint.

I wanted to get it from Johnstone's (supporting local business) but Trail Appliances offered free delivery, free assembly, free tool kit, free pizza stone and free cover. Couldn't say no to that.

BBQ arrived today, going to season the grills tonight and have our first meal tomorrow :thumbsup:

[roastpuff]

The new models are Made in China, no longer Made in USA, unless you go for the LX models I believe. Hence the Genesis II and the Spirit II models are a bit of a downgrade to me, IMO.

That's why I wanted an older Genesis rather than the new one.

[Hondaracer]

Such a joy to cook on a new grill. Using my shitty Canadian tire special it really had gotten to the point of using it into degradation like driving a car with an engine noise that gradually gets worse but as it does you get used to it and it becomes the norm lol..

Nothing special but enjoyed cooking on the bbq again

https://i.imgur.com/5QMhpGg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jtP14J5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/DNfpNvZ.jpg

[Liquid_o2]

Once a season, I take out the grills and scrape down the sides of the fire box to remove build up. Same with the flame hoods (whatever they're called) to remove build up. Clean and oil the grates, etc.

What do you use to scrape down the sides of the fire box? I need to do mine on my Weber as it has gotten pretty filthy over the 2 years I have had it.

Just a wire brush?

[roastpuff]

Wire brush, paint scraper.

[Eatman]

Unfortunately the E210 however ended up being too large. So, we ended up going with Napoleon's 2-burner Rogue because of it's smaller footprint.

I wanted to get it from Johnstone's (supporting local business) but Trail Appliances offered free delivery, free assembly, free tool kit, free pizza stone and free cover. Couldn't say no to that.

BBQ arrived today, going to season the grills tonight and have our first meal tomorrow :thumbsup:.

How did you get all the extra goodies? Was it some sort of promo? All i got offered was free delivery and cover.

[winson604]

Aight, late to the game, finally going to use my balcony after not using it at all in the 2 years I've lived in my place. Balcony isn't big so can't get a massive one but looking for a free standing natural gas grill under $1000 all in? Recommendations? It doesn't have to have insane bells and whistles or anything just not anything shitty I guess.

So far at a quick glance looking at this? https://www.trailappliances.com/weber-free-standing-49-inch-bbq-stainless-steel-natural-gas-47502001

[roastpuff]

Get the Genesis model instead of Spirit if you can. Costco had some - not sure if it's still there or not.

[m3thods]

Aight, late to the game, finally going to use my balcony after not using it at all in the 2 years I've lived in my place. Balcony isn't big so can't get a massive one but looking for a free standing natural gas grill under $1000 all in? Recommendations? It doesn't have to have insane bells and whistles or anything just not anything shitty I guess.

So far at a quick glance looking at this? https://www.trailappliances.com/weber-free-standing-49-inch-bbq-stainless-steel-natural-gas-47502001

If you're not cooking for huge parties and want to save on some space, I highly recommend the BK Baron 320 NG:

https://www.kerrisdalelumber.ca/broil-king-baron-320-pro-special-edition/?sku=921114LP&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0Mb3BRCaARIsAPSNGpVZ8hMo-4mhz5J61JLBRt5RM2QBUyYbv9Uad-Psq5EoXHp46csc-I4aArp2EALw_wcB

Not sure if it comes in stainless, but I have the stanless propane model. My only gripe is the cast iron grates but they're bomb proof (just a pain to clean imo). Really compact but cooks like a big boy. Even after moving into a bigger place I kept it around to maintain the illusion that my patio is big lol