[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8bVqI2j8o4

Rumor has it he was paid 100 mill.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://streamable.com/snq0g8

Good for him, this probably sets his kids up, along with his kids kids, and their kids as well.

I don't know if I'll follow, depends on if the app is easy to use for podcasts, and free. I use it for music but never for podcasts. The show has been getting really bad lately, with the coronavirus misinformation he spreads over and over.

I say that as someone who has been listening since about episode 100 or so; this is beyond the usual bullshit.

[mikemhg]

^Totally agree, Skinny.

I listened to the podcast way way back in the Ice House days with Redban. Stopped listening to his podcast a few years back as he had gotten progressively worse.

I'll still throw it on if he has an interesting guest, but even then, it's usually a let down. I think it's a product of simply too many episodes, he's over saturated himself.

[hud 91gt]

Funny, I literally signed up to Spotify today and cancelled my Google Play as it didn’t work on my garmin watch. Lol.

[quasi]

Meh, it is what it is I'll still listen. I listen to most his shows unless he has someone on discussing a topic I really have no interest in like for example last week Rhonda Patrick hard pass.

Yeah, he repeats himself a lot and you have to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt, for me it's strictly entertainment not a news source.

The one thing I will say this Spotify thing sort of goes against everything he's been saying the last bunch of years about not selling out and doing it on his own. I know what he'd say to that, he's still in charge of content and creative direction so it's not a sell out. I mean I really don't care either way I think you'd be a moron to not take the money if you have one of the top podcasts in the world but don't say one thing and do another.

[blkgsr]

i just listen to the short clips on youtube...much better

[Ch28]

Rogan is basically men's version of Oprah

[Hondaracer]

Even though he said he has the control and wants to put up the illusion of not selling out, feel like this is the beginning of the end for the show

During Covid obviously haven’t been going to the gym where I usually listen to his podcasts and recently have picked up way more audiobooks so I’m not sure if I will be going back to a full time listener

[mikemhg]

Meh, it is what it is I'll still listen. I listen to most his shows unless he has someone on discussing a topic I really have no interest in like for example last week Rhonda Patrick hard pass.

Yeah, he repeats himself a lot and you have to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt, for me it's strictly entertainment not a news source.

The one thing I will say this Spotify thing sort of goes against everything he's been saying the last bunch of years about not selling out and doing it on his own. I know what he'd say to that, he's still in charge of content and creative direction so it's not a sell out. I mean I really don't care either way I think you'd be a moron to not take the money if you have one of the top podcasts in the world but don't say one thing and do another.

Not the first time he's contradicted himself. He's a charlatan of sorts.

He plays himself as this uncompromising guy, who doesn't care about money, who doesn't sell out. He's sold out many times, yet his fans think he's infallible, it's a cult of personality type of following.

I agree with Honda, I do believe it's the beginning of the end, especially if he's taking his show off YouTube.

[Infiniti]

Welp, I guess its back to the Rush Limbaugh show I go.

[quasi]

Further to money, looks like he has more than 100 million reasons to move to Spotify. That would be pretty hard to turn down.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/joe-rogan-signs-exclusive-podcast-184241683.html

[AzNightmare]

I just listen to clips of his podcasts when he has debates. Some of them are hilarious.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1263490881564356608

He isn't so much selling out as being rewarded for all his work.

[Hondaracer]

While I don’t disagree, that Zuby guy is a fucking clown

I think the reason people call him a sellout is for the reasons listed above. He has always had this attitude that he’s not some corporate schil and wouldn’t plug things he doesn’t use himself etc. (Which, with some of the products he does do ads for I’d say is questionable)

Can’t fault him for taking 100 mill, anyone would.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Zuby is a clown how?

[mikemhg]

Likely cause of this:

https://www.wqad.com/article/news/local/drone/8-in-the-air/male-rapper-identifying-as-female-informally-breaks-female-dead-lift-record-to-prove-a-point/526-4e1a441e-42e4-417b-9fca-e1cb6a3574f3

I agree with Honda, the guy is a clown.

[Hondaracer]

On top of that it’s hard to take anyone who refers to them self in 3rd person seriously. Also wearing your own branded clothes and gear with your name on it, handing them out to seemingly anyone who MIGHT wear some stupid shirt, the shameless self promotion to a fault etc.

Honestly I’ve only heard him in like 3-4 different times and each time it’s been gross.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Likely cause of this:

https://www.wqad.com/article/news/local/drone/8-in-the-air/male-rapper-identifying-as-female-informally-breaks-female-dead-lift-record-to-prove-a-point/526-4e1a441e-42e4-417b-9fca-e1cb6a3574f3

I agree with Honda, the guy is a clown.
Making a point in order to criticize the recent trend of the inclusion of biological males in female sports.
On top of that it’s hard to take anyone who refers to them self in 3rd person seriously. Also wearing your own branded clothes and gear with your name on it, handing them out to seemingly anyone who MIGHT wear some stupid shirt, the shameless self promotion to a fault etc.

Honestly I’ve only heard him in like 3-4 different times and each time it’s been gross.
A music artist with an ego and promoting his business and career at any opportunity? Inconceivable!

You both seem to have incredibly low standards for what constitutes clownish behaviour, even feeling the need to include your disapproval unnecessarily. Or are you so petty with someone you disagree with that you can't resist taking jabs. We know how sincere mikemhg is when calling others on here a clown, so I guess I expected more.

[Vancouver240sx]

Long time listener, will switch because spotify seems like a good app anyways.

I think it all makes sense, especially in regards to having so many content issues on youtube. From what I understand it will still be free but I'm guessing you'll have to endure more ads if you don't have a paid spotify account.

Personally hated how he had to change the show for youtube bullshit, will be interesting to see how it changes things.

Rich

[Hondaracer]

Making a point in order to criticize the recent trend of the inclusion of biological males in female sports.

A music artist with an ego and promoting his business and career at any opportunity? Inconceivable!

You both seem to have incredibly low standards for what constitutes clownish behaviour, even feeling the need to include your disapproval unnecessarily. Or are you so petty with someone you disagree with that you can't resist taking jabs. We know how sincere mikemhg is when calling others on here a clown, so I guess I expected more.

Honestly I actually commend him for the stupid gender identity BS, I think that’s great.

However just as I’ve said every time I’ve listened to him he’s exactly the type that rubs me the wrong way, don’t have a problem with ego etc. Moreso just the way he approaches conversation and how he seems to be incredibly “thirsty” for fame and attention.

Maybe if I listened to him more or cared enough to dig deeper I would appreciate him but as I said, the random times I’ve heard him talk he ain’t for me.

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't understand the "sellout" thing with the Spotify deal. If the show is exactly the same, just on a different platform, how is that selling out? He went from the biggest billion dollar platform, to another one.

If anything, his shows may be even less censored now. He has to tippy-toe around Youtube's algorithm based censorship so much, I think that had a lot to do with the decision to leave (of course that's on top of the drump truck full of money)

[MarkyMark]

The people calling him a sellout are the same people who call him a UFC shill whenever he agrees with the companies decision. In the end they are just jealous he's making huge bank and they are most likely poor.

[SkinnyPupp]

I never would have called him a UFC sellout until he started agreeing with their downright vile coronavirus shit. In fact it might have been what set him on his course towards virus denial - he went from totally accepting the facts, to trying to find some way to get around them, to flat out denial. And it started when he went from "I just want to see what the UFC does, Dana is "gangster"" to flat out going there to do a show.

People generally don't know how insane and and gross Dana is. Some day the stories might come out. He is really, really bad. Like not just a "Trump idiot" bad, but actually pretty evil.

[mikemhg]

^This is exactly my issue with Joe.

Could care less his bank account or if he's moving to Spotify to get that bag, the man puts in the work for what he's achieved.

That doesn't mean I have to like or agree with the guy. I'd respect Joe more if he was honest about himself, it's the piousness that he pushes about himself in terms of his image that I find grating.

Even in his relationships with his friends, I remember how uncomfortable some of his older podcasts would get when he'd lay into his "friends" of lower stature, just being overall shitty, meanwhile not having that same energy to bigger name guests.

He promotes an image of himself that is antithetical to how he acts outside of the podcast, I've heard other comedians in interviews say the same thing.

That's my major issue, along with his recent COVID denial while peddling ONIT stuff, or "pretending" to be an impartial podcast, meanwhile having a new alt-right guy on the podcast every week.

If you think that's nitpicking, Bouncy, that's your opinion.

[welfare]

Spotify pays out $100m for Rogan, stock goes up almost 18%.
Spotify made $5b from that $100m investment in just 48 hours!

[instantneedles]

I recently started listening to his podcasts, but like how he's able to bridge conversations with big name guests that are in a field he knows nothing about.

He was literally trying to relate to Tony Hawk skateboarding with his MMA experiences lol. He makes it work though somehow.

These are usually the episodes I listen to.

If he can keep this up when he hops over to spotify, I think I might continue to listen.

[welfare]

I heard his first guest might be Alex Jones hahahaha awesome :troll:

[PeanutButter]

Meh, it is what it is I'll still listen. I listen to most his shows unless he has someone on discussing a topic I really have no interest in like for example last week Rhonda Patrick hard pass.

Yeah, he repeats himself a lot and you have to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt, for me it's strictly entertainment not a news source.

The one thing I will say this Spotify thing sort of goes against everything he's been saying the last bunch of years about not selling out and doing it on his own. I know what he'd say to that, he's still in charge of content and creative direction so it's not a sell out. I mean I really don't care either way I think you'd be a moron to not take the money if you have one of the top podcasts in the world but don't say one thing and do another.

Bro if the deal was $100M, would you not dance like a monkey? Come on bro. Doesn't everyone have a price?

[SkinnyPupp]

If you guys were getting sick of the latest JRE shows with his yes-men agreeing with all his covid shit, the latest episode with David Pakman was a HUGE change from that. Pakman stood up and challenged Joe on many points, not in a confrontational way. Joe had nothing for him really. He needs to have more guests like this, who won't necessarily agree with him on everything, and actually get him to think out loud to his audience who may agree with things because they don't know any better.

A good one was asking him why he supported Bernie, but when it's Biden vs Trump, he now seems to support Trump. Like what are the actual policies that favoured Bernie vs Trump and not Biden vs Trump?

[Bouncing Bettys]

^Many Bernie supporters are facing this dilemma. What is the best way to shift the Democrats closer to the policies of Bernie? Vote for Biden, who has done absolutely nothing to draw in progressive voters, adopt any of their policies, or employ any Bernie campaigners. Just yesterday he even told the black community, who if they had trouble deciding between Trump or himself, that " you ain't black." The only real benefit from a Biden election, in there eyes, is the appointment of Dem leaning judges to the Supreme court, to further prevent a shift to the right. The Dems would continue to ignore progressives as they would have no reason to listen - they already got their vote without appeasing them in any way.

The other option is to abstain or vote for Trump, enduring 4 more years, but forcing the Dems to reevaluate their establishment positions and finally start listening and working to bring the progressives back into the party. Either way its a long game, but he and other Bernie supporters are not for Trump.

[quasi]

Bro if the deal was $100M, would you not dance like a monkey? Come on bro. Doesn't everyone have a price?

Meh, it is what it is I'll still listen. I listen to most his shows unless he has someone on discussing a topic I really have no interest in like for example last week Rhonda Patrick hard pass.

Yeah, he repeats himself a lot and you have to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt, for me it's strictly entertainment not a news source.

The one thing I will say this Spotify thing sort of goes against everything he's been saying the last bunch of years about not selling out and doing it on his own. I know what he'd say to that, he's still in charge of content and creative direction so it's not a sell out. I mean I really don't care either way I think you'd be a moron to not take the money if you have one of the top podcasts in the world but don't say one thing and do another.


Yes, that's why I said you'd have to be a moron to not take the money.

[MarkyMark]

I never would have called him a UFC sellout until he started agreeing with their downright vile coronavirus shit. In fact it might have been what set him on his course towards virus denial - he went from totally accepting the facts, to trying to find some way to get around them, to flat out denial. And it started when he went from "I just want to see what the UFC does, Dana is "gangster"" to flat out going there to do a show.

People generally don't know how insane and and gross Dana is. Some day the stories might come out. He is really, really bad. Like not just a "Trump idiot" bad, but actually pretty evil.

Can you expend on the UFCs vile coronavirus shit? I know they have held events recently but what has been vile about it so far?

[SkinnyPupp]

Can you expend on the UFCs vile coronavirus shit? I know they have held events recently but what has been vile about it so far?
The whole idea of putting on live events now, even without a crowd, goes against all advice from experts, and puts everyone at risk. Of course the fighters are going to fight, but we haven't been this close to fighters being actual gladiators since the Roman days (remember the old UFC intro?). They are being thrown to the wolves - in this case the virus - just to make money.

It's shameful and humiliating, but for whatever reason didn't really get picked up by mainstream press. If it was NBA or NFL trying to do this right now, people would rightfully all over them about it.

I mean we see the humiliating pictures of people in huge crowds right now... All we're doing is waiting to see if a second wave comes now. These people may be dumb, but they're just doing it because they're stressed out after being locked up, lots of them probably don't even have jobs any more, and they just want some release. But when UFC does it, and puts OTHERS at risk for it, it's just plain gross.

Dana is Trump's buddy, a virus denier, and oh man there are so many stories... A lot of them semi-public knowledge, sometimes you have to dig for them. Others I just happen to know some of the right people to hear these stories, and I can't repeat them unfortunately. Just think "how bad could he really be?" and multiply that by about 100, and you'll be close to the bottom range of the ball park.

Now we wait and see if the fighter with the positive test had been spreading it around before he had to leave. He was cautious, wearing gloves and a mask MOST of the time, but as we know that's not fool proof.

[MarkyMark]

I suppose but it hasn't blown up in their face just yet. If anything so far they've shown it's possible to pull off with the right measures in place.

Has the WWE still been doing events? I know they aren't considered a sport but it's not any less dangerous as far as the virus goes.

[Manic!]

I suppose but it hasn't blown up in their face just yet. If anything so far they've shown it's possible to pull off with the right measures in place.

Has the WWE still been doing events? I know they aren't considered a sport but it's not any less dangerous as far as the virus goes.

In Florida the WWE is considered an essential service.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/entertainment/2020/4/14/1_4895231.html

[SkinnyPupp]

I suppose but it hasn't blown up in their face just yet. If anything so far they've shown it's possible to pull off with the right measures in place.

Has the WWE still been doing events? I know they aren't considered a sport but it's not any less dangerous as far as the virus goes.
Here's a report on the UFC situation (https://www.boxingscene.com/more-on-ufc-coronavirus--149071). It's a very long read, but you'll know absolutely all the details, good and bad.

WWE and AEW are still doing events, and should receive similar criticism. AEW taped a bunch of shows right when the lockdown occurred, and are taping new ones weekly. Both have no crowds, and try to limit how many people are in close contact. AEW puts about a dozen wrestlers where the audience would be, to replicate crowd noise. It makes a HUGE difference. Wrestling with zero crowd is practically unwatchable to me. With a fake crowd it's still bad, but a huge improvement.

Wrestlers are free to not show up if they don't want to, with the promise that their spot on the card won't be demoted. AEW is making good on the promise, while WWE has already stripped the title off one guy for not showing up, and has basically removed one of their top stars from existence (he has leukemia so it's not a good idea to risk anything at all)

[mikemhg]

If you guys were getting sick of the latest JRE shows with his yes-men agreeing with all his covid shit, the latest episode with David Pakman was a HUGE change from that. Pakman stood up and challenged Joe on many points, not in a confrontational way. Joe had nothing for him really. He needs to have more guests like this, who won't necessarily agree with him on everything, and actually get him to think out loud to his audience who may agree with things because they don't know any better.

A good one was asking him why he supported Bernie, but when it's Biden vs Trump, he now seems to support Trump. Like what are the actual policies that favoured Bernie vs Trump and not Biden vs Trump?

I like David Pakman, I listen to his podcast actually. Loved the way he challenged Joe on a lot of his bullshit, Joe didn't have much to come back with, as all these guys do.

It's a pity he rarely has the Pakman-types on the show, though. He responds to what his fanbase wants, if you check the Youtube for this interview, it's got 13K in dislikes, not far off from how many likes.

Maybe that's more my issue, JRE's listening base.

[SkinnyPupp]

Another good episode.. Great in fact, I'll probably follow these two now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA9Tpf5Uuxs

[SiRV]

I like David Pakman, I listen to his podcast actually. Loved the way he challenged Joe on a lot of his bullshit, Joe didn't have much to come back with, as all these guys do.

It's a pity he rarely has the Pakman-types on the show, though. He responds to what his fanbase wants, if you check the Youtube for this interview, it's got 13K in dislikes, not far off from how many likes.

Maybe that's more my issue, JRE's listening base.

Joe's got a good range of lefties on. Krystal Ball finally made it on today with her conservative co-host Saagar. Kyle Kulinski has been on multiple times, as has Jimmy Dore.

I used to like Pakman but the few times I've seen him go head to head with any of the pseudo intellectuals online, he doesn't seem to perform that well IMO.

[quasi]

I really enjoyed David Choe on Rogan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T6__UbhBI

[mikemhg]

Love David Choe.

I don't listen to JRE any longer, but I listened to this one, huge fan of David, back from the Thumbs Up days.

He's an extremely interesting individual, to think he went to the Congo on his own back in the early 90's is absolutely amazing. He's such a renaissance man, could listen to him for hours more.