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I fucked up but is it 100% my fault?
geeknerd
09-22-2020, 08:38 PM
So I was trying to parallel park but I didn't realize the truck had a rear step bumper so I ended up 45degree reversing too early and drove a little bit into the edge of the step bar or whatever its called. I feel like its such a shit design that it should be illegal and it does look like its an after-market modification.
Unless I saw it and completely understood the design while approaching the parked truck, there is no way I can actually see that thing while im parking/reversing.
any insight?
https://imgur.com/ScGl9j4
https://imgur.com/wql6k2B
stewie
09-22-2020, 08:48 PM
I'm going to guess that they'll say you're 100% at fault for hitting a parked car.
You must've really carved the turn early to do that.
Wish I could say something reaffirming but I don't think anything would help.
geeknerd
09-22-2020, 08:52 PM
I'm going to guess that they'll say you're 100% at fault for hitting a parked car.
You must've really carved the turn early to do that.
Wish I could say something reaffirming but I don't think anything would help.
It was a really tight spot so I put my car was right beside the truck and I turned it just like icbc book teaches, when the center of my car is at the end of the other car but turns out it wasnt the actual end....
yeah i realize hitting a parked car is like hitting a building but that design is wtf and the fact taht its clearly an addon welded on, i can only wonder if there are some laws/regulations for that kind of stuff. on my way home i checked out all the trucks to see if there was something similar... nada.
6793026
09-22-2020, 09:24 PM
step bar / handicap tail gate lift / bike rack... whatever it is... it did NOTHING wrong. It was stationary.
Just bad luck & lack of experience.
geeknerd
09-22-2020, 10:06 PM
step bar / handicap tail gate lift / bike rack... whatever it is... it did NOTHING wrong. It was stationary.
Just bad luck & lack of experience.
ok. was just wondering if there were any regulations against it kind of like rules against carrying lumber loads that stick out. Yeah lesson learned when parking behind truck/trailers. my first at-fault collision in my total 14 years of driving and its against a parked car...ffs.
twitchyzero
09-22-2020, 11:25 PM
if you started turning half way the gouge wouldn't be near the rear tire
dont think any of the blame can be pinned on the box truck; remember even if someone was parked illegally and you hit them, they take 0% of the responsibility
anyways we all make parking mistakes, it just happens to be one you want to fix or rust could start
Ulic Qel-Droma
09-23-2020, 12:04 AM
the only way it aint your fault is if you drove off and didnt report it as your fault.
if youre looking for compensation or to somehow fix for free without penalty, i don't think that will happen.
320icar
09-23-2020, 12:22 AM
I'm going to guess that they'll say you're 100% at fault for hitting a parked car.
https://i.imgflip.com/snz9u.jpg
underscore
09-23-2020, 07:01 AM
I would imagine you'd be told you had opportunity to see it when you drove past the spot before you started to back in.
SkunkWorks
09-23-2020, 07:24 AM
Lol you came on RS for sympathy for an at fault crash...?
bcrdukes
09-23-2020, 07:40 AM
GoFundMe.com/geeknerd
I feel for you, man.......... I really do.
Now that RS has given you all that touchy feely warm support. Find out how much it's going to cost you in the long run to fix it - going through ICBC or not.
If it's not that important to you, leave it. You know, battle scar. Gives the car some character. Trailer trash car, lol. OK, that wasn't nice. Dr. Bonnie Henry would not be happy with me. Be Kind, be kind, be.............. nuff said.
jackmeister
09-23-2020, 08:15 AM
The step/tailgate/bumpers etc on trucks are pretty standard so I wouldn't think those are 'illegal modifications'. You usually buy a brand new truck off a lot with those installed.
If it had a louder tailpipe though... that would an instant VI lol
minoru_tanaka
09-23-2020, 08:20 AM
Where do you get off thinking it's not 100% your fault? lol
Only stationary object you can hit and be compensated for is an open car door
geeknerd
09-23-2020, 08:27 AM
yeah, you guys are right. i think i was just angry and embarrassed at myself for hitting a stationary object... damage looks deadly to my wallet since it bent the rear quarter panel right where the creases for the doors are...
Great68
09-23-2020, 08:30 AM
The only thing that would make that illegal is if it was projecting beyond the sides of the truck body. It doesn't look like that's the case so, sorry, 100% your fault.
murd0c
09-23-2020, 10:05 AM
What's the point of this post? You hit a parked vehicle its pretty obvious its 100% your fault LOL
Teriyaki
09-23-2020, 10:12 AM
Yea, going to also add in that since you hit a stationary object you are 100% at fault regardless. Say a tank was parked there and you hit the tank. Even though it's not road legal, I'm pretty sure you'd still be at fault to the insurer.
TOS'd
09-23-2020, 10:30 AM
Another 10/10 thread by Geeknerd, just like his last one: Is it fraud if i 'forge' documents that existed at one time and are true? (https://www.revscene.net/forums/716786-fraud-if-i-forge-documents-existed-one-time-true.html)
mikemhg
09-23-2020, 11:54 AM
:lol
quasi
09-23-2020, 12:16 PM
So I drove into my neighbours house (long story) but it was the illegal addition on the side of their house that I hit. My question is since they didn't get the proper permits is it their fault and would they be responsible for my injuries because my neck and back are sore AF?
This thread has the makings of another one of my favourite threads on RS. The cold pancake at iHop one, gulolol. Or the, "What is a breast pump,? one.
geeknerd
09-23-2020, 10:21 PM
From MVA
"A bumper must not have a sharp or ragged edge and must not protrude beyond the side of the vehicle."
https://imgur.com/a/prf5QBW
I purposely took this picture at the time, aligned with the side of the vehicle for this exact reason that such a regulation/law might exist.
if you guys look at the damage, that few mm actually mattered in this case imo.
Well, it sounds like you have a reason to take that evidence to ICBC. The protruding beyond the side of the vehicle is iffy, but the sharp or ragged edge of the bumper angle (no pun intended) might work.
The piece of rubber should have gone around the, "bumper."
Anyway, good luck.
BTW, is that in Chinatown? It looks like the kind of street in Chinatown.
geeknerd
09-23-2020, 11:16 PM
Well, it sounds like you have a reason to take that evidence to ICBC. The protruding beyond the side of the vehicle is iffy, but the sharp or ragged edge of the bumper angle (no pun intended) might work.
The piece of rubber should have gone around the, "bumper."
Anyway, good luck.
BTW, is that in Chinatown? It looks like the kind of street in Chinatown.
good eye, yeah it is in chinatown, on pender before gore.
StylinRed
09-23-2020, 11:37 PM
U could try with that, but it doesn't look sharp or ragged, the rubber surround, angle of the step, could be argued to have been damaged by you, since that's what you backed into
good eye, yeah it is in chinatown, on pender before gore.
I go to Manpuku on that very block quite often. Actually, any street in that part of Vancouver look the same. At first, I thought it was Keefer - Kent's Kitchen, but the shops weren't the same.
Anyway.............. you did get the license plate and/or name on side of truck, right?
Razor Ramon HG
09-24-2020, 03:46 AM
What's the point of posting this thread if all you want is a circlejerk? You're just picking at straws here to soothe your ego.
ICBC will find you at fault no matter what. You hit a stationary vehicle/object.
And that photo you uploaded is inconclusive. A shot like is highly dependent on camera angle and it definitely was not shot straight to begin with. It looks edited to me.
coming to RS to find logic to reason your way out of liability of hitting a parked car...damn...i've been here a while, but this is a new one :lol
thanked for after all this time still get a :ahwow: out of RS
bcrdukes
09-24-2020, 07:14 AM
Chinatown ownz you!
geeknerd
09-24-2020, 10:08 AM
ok let me put it this way,
if that bumper was sticking out 5cm and not 1cm, would it make a difference in terms of liability?
its definitely sticking out a little bit, that was the whole reason why i decided to take the picture.
fliptuner
09-24-2020, 10:51 AM
INB4 van owner sees this thread and you have to pay for scratching his bumper and get charged with leaving the scene of an accident.
:troll:
bobbinka
09-24-2020, 11:12 AM
ok let me put it this way,
if that bumper was sticking out 5cm and not 1cm, would it make a difference in terms of liability?
its definitely sticking out a little bit, that was the whole reason why i decided to take the picture.
You should hire a lawyer. Sue them for everything they got.
I mean, sure, you drove past the truck, so you would've seen it first and should've made sure it was safe before reversing into the spot... but who's going to know that except RS?? If it comes to it, just say you're legally blind.
AzNightmare
09-24-2020, 11:49 AM
Shit happens...
I almost hit one of these:
https://www.sternbergtruckrental.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/16-Cube-Truck-image-2.jpg
I was probably inches away at the time, and I didn't even realize the platform was partially lowered like that until I drove past it.
corollagtSr5
09-24-2020, 02:52 PM
https://youtu.be/ZQ7oqmikZDQ
MarkyMark
09-24-2020, 03:05 PM
ok let me put it this way,
if that bumper was sticking out 5cm and not 1cm, would it make a difference in terms of liability?
its definitely sticking out a little bit, that was the whole reason why i decided to take the picture.
I'm sure that rule was made for something protruding more than what you hit. You'd probably need a straight edge just to prove its sticking out at all. I understand it sucks you hit it and we'd all be choked in the same situation. The difference is most of us after the fact would be upset with ourselves and not try to find a way to blame a parked vehicle.
You should be at fault and I'd be astonished if ICBC said anything but.
spoon.ek9
09-24-2020, 05:10 PM
this reminds me of threads like this: https://www.revscene.net/forums/610386-how-do-you-fail-people.html
I miss the fail storms :lol
this reminds me of threads like this: https://www.revscene.net/forums/610386-how-do-you-fail-people.html
I miss the fail storms :lol
Wow, how did I miss not getting in on that one? Oh, right. New Year's Resolution of not failing anybody. Frick.
geeknerd
09-25-2020, 09:06 AM
ICBC said they are in the process of issuing a VI for the car and will determine after. thanks for your input guys!
VI as in damage estimate your car?
Don't do it, call colorworks and get it fixed and airbrushed for a couple hundred. Now that you initiated a claim your insurance might also have to fix the step on the truck.
ICBC said they are in the process of issuing a VI for the truck and will determine after. thanks for your input guys!
FIXT
or was it actually your car................
A truck owned by a guy who's on the brink of bankruptcy. His truck is probably his only form of income. Truck probably won't pass inspection and he's out on the street............
Then again, it could be owned by a very rich person who has a dozen trucks and it's just a drop in the bucket. Takes advantage of people and is slimy as all hell. At least a dangerous truck is off the road...........
just trying to add some spice to the story............
cafe22
09-25-2020, 10:14 AM
ok let me put it this way,
if that bumper was sticking out 5cm and not 1cm, would it make a difference in terms of liability?
its definitely sticking out a little bit, that was the whole reason why i decided to take the picture.
But your photos show the metal bumper is still inside the side mirrors...
KDMofo
09-25-2020, 10:26 AM
I went ahead and wrote you an estimate in case you were looking for quotes.
https://i.imgur.com/82mngdf.jpg
bcrdukes
09-25-2020, 10:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/o4QN0lz.gif
Ludepower
09-25-2020, 12:04 PM
Why did you report this to icbc?
I doubt the truck driver cares. Your premiums is gonna go up more than the repair cost. I would pay this out of pocket instead of getting ICBC involved.
You can report it to ICBC then decide to pay for it out of pocket and nothing happens. Unless there was damage to the truck. Then you also have to ay for its repairs. If driver wants to dick you after the fact.
You pay me 500 buck, I forget. Gulolow
It's a custom made beauty..........
AzNightmare
09-26-2020, 12:45 AM
lol, this thread just got more interesting now that ICBC actually got involved.
TOS'd
09-26-2020, 03:12 AM
ICBC said they are in the process of issuing a VI for the car and will determine after. thanks for your input guys!
Proof or ban.
bcrdukes
09-26-2020, 06:22 AM
I did not know ICBC issued VIs.
quasi
09-28-2020, 09:16 AM
ICBC said they are in the process of issuing a VI for the car and will determine after. thanks for your input guys!
Lol, watch ICBC determine this bumper is not safe and make it 50/50 raising both OP's rates and the vehicle he hit.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I don't see anyway you get less then 50% blame for hitting a stationary object which as far as your rates goes is the same as 100% your fault if you claim the damages and don't pay out of pocket. I mean I guess maybe you repay half they repay half? ICBC loves 50/50, not sure they can give this guy 50% fault though since he was parked, maybe make him fix his bumper moving forward.
underscore
09-28-2020, 12:07 PM
I think what's actually happening is ICBC is asking to have the truck brought in so they can take a look at it, they're not issuing a VI like you get at the roadside.
Obsideon
09-29-2020, 12:43 PM
So let me get this straight... if someone was sitting at the bus stop but he had his leg straightened out and I smoked him while he's stationary ... but because he extended his legs I might not be at fault?
:fuckyea:
bobbinka
09-29-2020, 12:45 PM
So let me get this straight... if someone was sitting at the bus stop but he had his leg straightened out and I smoked him while he's stationary ... but because he extended his legs I might not be at fault?
:fuckyea:
He'd need a VI to get his legs checked out first
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