[6793026]

So some of you may remember Kevin Newman, he used to be the global national anchor.

He’s since retired and works for a non-profit doing work in war-torn countries. He was on the radio yesterday speaking of Canada’s “attempt” to get people out. He said basically you had to have an internet connection in order to access this secure portal to get your paper work etc. Done. You were then instructed to make your way to the airport

He said he was in contact with Canadians and people who had filed the proper paperwork but they were being turned away at the airport because their papers were not in colour…

He said just over 2000 people had gotten the proper documentation and now Canada is saying barley 1000 people got out. So basically half the people who were eligible did not get out.

He always seemed like a pretty straight forward guy and if he’s working for non-profits I don’t really see him having any reason to lie or make Trudeau etc. Look bad. If what he was saying is true it’s pretty fucking terrible..

Oh I remember Kevin, he retired from news cause he couldn't deal with reporting negative news.

I don't blame canada for the rules and regulations. Yes the situation is bad and it doesn't seem legit on minor detail on what you describled.

Not sure if it's cause to prevent fraud or why they are so strict, I'm assuming rules are rules, just like how you can't use your passport if the pages are wet. Learned it the hard way. Had to stay until they issue an emergency passport and waited for days.

But yes, they situation they are in now is a totally diff.

[whitev70r]

Biden says US will defend Taiwan if China attacks

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59005300

You sure you want to get involved here?

[68style]

I'm glad he's saying it straight... and I hope if China does attack Taiwan that the whole world comes to their defense. USA, Canada, Australia, England, Western Europe, Philippines you name it...

Non-response to China's type of rhetoric and eventual military actions is what led to WW2.

[Traum]

The Taiwan Strait is a major shipping route accounting for something to the tune of 60%+ of all international marine shipping. Taiwan is also the largest semiconductor manufacturer, and produces the bulk of the top tier semiconductor chips. US is trying to build up some sizable semiconductor manufacturing capacity in Arizona, but that is going to take time -- quite a bit of time, if you ask me, easily in the range of 10+ years to have a mature and stable manufacturing capacity, 5+ years for the factories to come online. So at this point, if the US were to lose Taiwan to Communist China, it pretty much has to hand over its World Leader title to China, so it really has no choice but to come out and defend Taiwan. For the rest of the Western World, if Taiwan is lost to China, they would have to submit themselves to China and its ridiculous wishes as well. So I hope they would really come to their senses and put up a united front with the US against China now, not 5 years later when shxt start hitting the fan.

Currently, China does not have the capacity to invade Taiwan yet. But various news reports are suggesting that they plan to do so, or would at least have the capacity to do so in 5 - 6 years. That 5 - 6 year time frame also coincides with Emperor Xi getting old -- he is currently 68 now, and there is no doubt in my mind that Xi is infatuated with the grand dream of uniting the One Great China. As people get old, they increasingly lose their mental capacity, esp temper and self control. All of that adds up to a dangerous combination where Xi might just be crazy enough to try something dumb. (As if he hasn't done enough dumb things thus far in his reign...)

[StylinRed]

I'm glad he's saying it straight... and I hope if China does attack Taiwan that the whole world comes to their defense. USA, Canada, Australia, England, Western Europe, Philippines you name it...

Non-response to China's type of rhetoric and eventual military actions is what led to WW2.

The World is already repeating the bs of ww2, they're ignoring the reports of the Uyghur treatment. Corporations are inspecting their factories with Uyghur workers and going /shrug "all good here", like corporations/politicians did with German factories and Jews

If things actually come to a head, at the end of it ppl will act surprised again, and blame ignorance/lack of details, and then give a song n dance about "never again"

[Traum]

The World is already repeating the bs of ww2, they're ignoring the reports of the Uyghur treatment. Corporations are inspecting their factories with Uyghur workers and going /shrug "all good here", like corporations/politicians did with German factories and Jews

If things actually come to a head, at the end of it ppl will act surprised again, and blame ignorance/lack of details, and then give a song n dance about "never again"
As far as Uyghur ethnic prosecution / genocide is concerned, there is no shortage of details -- whether it is first hand accounts, stats, and even veiled admission from official Chinese figures. It's a matter of whether there are any tangible incentives for the West to intervene, and whether the West is willing to turn its attention to the evidence.

I have probably said so before -- the current Communist China is very much like Nazi Germany before WW2 in a lot of ways, and I am continually disappointed to see that much of Europe seems to prefer retracing Neville Chamberlain's footsteps instead of doing what Winston Churchill did.

But at least the US is making a stance now, and has convinced Australia and Japan to join the China containment efforts.

[whitev70r]

Calling China out on the Uyghur persecution is the right thing to do ... but it would certainly come across better if we weren't cleaning up our own sh*t with how Canadian government treated (and are continuing to treat) the indigenous here.

[Manic!]

https://i.redd.it/xqdn5t483av71.png

[Traum]

Calling China out on the Uyghur persecution is the right thing to do ... but it would certainly come across better if we weren't cleaning up our own sh*t with how Canadian government treated (and are continuing to treat) the indigenous here.
Residential schools are absolutely something every Canadian should be ashamed of -- there is no question about that. The thing with calling out China on their purging of Uyghur -- among other things -- is, the genocide is happening now. Whereas with residential schools, the last of it closed down in the late 90's.

So is it more important to make amends to a tragedy that has already taken place? or would it be better to do something that could potentially stop / slow a tragedy that is happening right now?

[westopher]

Canada’s poor treatment of indigenous people certainly didn’t end with residential schools.
Look at what happened to Joyce Echequan in Quebec.
I agree though it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stand up for what’s right just because Canada is not doing well at rectifying it’s own wrongs.

[SkinnyPupp]

Canada’s poor treatment of indigenous people certainly didn’t end with residential schools.
Look at what happened to Joyce Echequan in Quebec.
I agree though it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stand up for what’s right just because Canada is not doing well at rectifying it’s own wrongs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths

The police officers would arrest Indigenous people, usually men, for alleged drunkenness and/or disorderly behaviour, sometimes without cause; the officers would then drive them to the outskirts of the city at night in the winter, take their clothing, and abandon them, leaving them stranded in sub-zero temperatures.

The practice was known as taking Indigenous people for "starlight tours" and dates back to 1976. As of 2021, despite convictions for related offences, no Saskatoon police officer has been convicted specifically for having caused freezing deaths.

[underscore]

Calling China out on the Uyghur persecution is the right thing to do ... but it would certainly come across better if we weren't cleaning up our own sh*t with how Canadian government treated (and are continuing to treat) the indigenous here.

It would, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing it. The US, Australia and Japan don't exactly have great historical/current treatment of their indigenous populations either.

Who are you worried about it coming across better to anyways? China, the ones doing the persecuting?

[Manic!]

https://streamja.com/kqnRm

And they say they are not racist.
Her husband was also convinced of showing his weiner to under age girls. He also started dating his wife when she was a teenager. He was in his 20's.

[68style]

Besides the obvious racism, what is she even doing? Did those guys elect a politician or did they elect a not funny stand up comedian? Did she ever get around to talking to any policy?

She’s insinuating that Rep. Omar doesn’t work hard… what’s she doing besides telling suicide bomber jokes in heels at a country tavern?

She’s had plenty of interactions with police herself too.. waste of space.

[Manic!]

Saw this on reddit.

Just a reminder that she's trying to distract you from her campaign funding fraud, her potential connection to election fraud, indirect bribery (her husband got over a mil in consulting fees for something he isn't remotely qualified for), and the fact someone was paid to take the GED test for her after she failed it twice.

And people where making fun of AOC for working as a waitress and bar tender to pay for university.

[SkinnyPupp]

What a despicable person

[68style]

Add her to the list of people that would make me shrug and say “anyways” if I heard they fell off the face of the earth

[underscore]

https://i.redd.it/35lqnh5xrfb51.png

[Traum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWrhRgkfwHA

LOL~ Well done, Joe~ Well done LOL~ :D

Biden answers inflation query by calling Fox reporter SOB
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/01/24/biden-fox-reporter-swearing

[Manic!]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rand-paul-trump-russian-2016-election-b2030602.html

Ex-Rand Paul aide pardoned by Trump is charged with funneling Russian money into 2016 election

A former campaign staffer and the grandson-in-law of US Senator Rand Paul who received a presidential pardon from former President Donald Trump has been charged with directing Russian money into the 2016 presidential election, according to the US Department of Justice.

The announcement came on Monday via an unseal indictment from 9 September.

Business Insider reports that Jesse Benton, Mr Paul's former aide, "conspired to illegally funnel thousands of dollars of foreign money from a Russian foreign national" into the 2016 campaign.
Follow the latest updates on Trump

He also managed Senator Mitch McConnell's 2014 campaign

[68style]

Amazing that this information somehow passed by the scrutiny of "I'm an eye doctor" Dr. Rand Paul apparently sight unseen.

[CivicBlues]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rand-paul-trump-russian-2016-election-b2030602.html

Ex-Rand Paul aide pardoned by Trump is charged with funneling Russian money into 2016 election

Ok, I'll ask. How the hell does one have a grandson-in-law at the age of 59? His kids are like 30.

[68style]

It's Ron Paul's grandson-in-law lol

[Manic!]

LOL!!! what a loser. So many people willing to break the law for trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdA9jZ_S5RQ

[mikemhg]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rand-paul-trump-russian-2016-election-b2030602.html

Ex-Rand Paul aide pardoned by Trump is charged with funneling Russian money into 2016 election

Of course he managed Moscow Mitch's campaign :lol

I swear man, Americans that vote Republican and not see the song and dance they're playing on them is wild to me.

[68style]

The whole idea that all these blue collar people think Trump and his friends have their best interests at heart has gotta be one of the craziest ideological mind fucks in human history.

[El Bastardo]

The amount of pro Trump bumper stickers I see to, and from, the way to work is staggering. People love the guy for some baffling reason. Biden is discussed in hushes and whispers in the county I work in.

I work in a heavily Republican district. How heavily, you ask? Well, the scramble during election season isn't Republican vs Democrat, its Republican vs Republican during the candidate primary because no Democrat runs for many of the available positions here.

A lot of the campaign signs say "CONSERVATIVE Republican" or "PROVEN Conservative" or something like that. Its a race to the right.
*Edit: I forgot to mention... one of the signs is written in Comic Sans

One of the candidates running in the Republican primary for one of the positions here ran on the platform that he would eliminate his own position (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/bayarea/article/GOP-nominee-for-Galveston-County-treasurer-aims-16972154.php) to "Save the taxpayers money" by reducing government waste. He promised he was gonna put himself out of a job. And guess what? He fucking WON. Because there doesn't seem to be any registered OPPOSITION to this guy, hes gonna win by default and then will have to either 1) prove himself to be a liar by NOT eliminating the position or 2) do the insane thing and eliminate the position.


This county made the news a few months ago when they passed a redistricting action to cleave the only Democrat-leaning district in half and dilute the blue-leaning voting population from a single district to two, where their votes are worth less. Folks are voting against their own interests because weak people follow what they believe to be strong leaders. Trump is just that kind of weak leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY9dfzcqGs

[mikemhg]

The amount of pro Trump bumper stickers I see to, and from, the way to work is staggering. People love the guy for some baffling reason. Biden is discussed in hushes and whispers in the county I work in.

I work in a heavily Republican district. How heavily, you ask? Well, the scramble during election season isn't Republican vs Democrat, its Republican vs Republican during the candidate primary because no Democrat runs for many of the available positions here.

A lot of the campaign signs say "CONSERVATIVE Republican" or "PROVEN Conservative" or something like that. Its a race to the right.
*Edit: I forgot to mention... one of the signs is written in Comic Sans

One of the candidates running in the Republican primary for one of the positions here ran on the platform that he would eliminate his own position (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighborhood/bayarea/article/GOP-nominee-for-Galveston-County-treasurer-aims-16972154.php) to "Save the taxpayers money" by reducing government waste. He promised he was gonna put himself out of a job. And guess what? He fucking WON. Because there doesn't seem to be any registered OPPOSITION to this guy, hes gonna win by default and then will have to either 1) prove himself to be a liar by NOT eliminating the position or 2) do the insane thing and eliminate the position.


This county made the news a few months ago when they passed a redistricting action to cleave the only Democrat-leaning district in half and dilute the blue-leaning voting population from a single district to two, where their votes are worth less. Folks are voting against their own interests because weak people follow what they believe to be strong leaders. Trump is just that kind of weak leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY9dfzcqGs

Well that's the irony with these "libertarian" minded "conservatives".

They rally about government bloat, and how any iteration of government is an affront to the free market and human sovereignty. Meanwhile once they get voted in, they're more than happy to become career senators or house members, just like Rand Paul, Mitch, Cruz, etc.

So government is bad for me, and yet it is totally fine for you to aspire working within, perpetuate, and collect a cheque?

Fascinating.

[Traum]

So an elderly lady travels to Taiwan for a visit, and China goes furious LOL~

It'll be interesting to see how this one unfolds. I expect the elderly lady to call China's bluff, and the old men in China will throw yet another temper tantrum LOL~

[Badhobz]

wtf is pooh bear so scared of? her bringing ineffectual democracy to Taiwan !?
:badpokerface:

[murd0c]

China being typical China and trying to flex, when push comes to shove they won't do anything. Just their typical threats they always make.

[threezero]

China move army in. and flexes military strength around Taiwan.

Nancy Peloski finishes her visit and leaves according to schedule.

China declare they won the battle and remove its military presence.

The only thing China is shooting down is their own A Share

[SkinnyPupp]

All time legendary thread by.. THE WHITE-HOUSE

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138

[SkinnyPupp]

Also how about this guy with negative 1000 self awareness... Thanks for accidentally proving that this is the right thing to do in an pathetic attempt to argue against it EleGiggle

https://twitter.com/RepJimBanks/status/1562820837140742144

[68style]

Hahahaha where do they did these people?!?!?! How did they get to this point in their life / age with this kind of critical thinking? Safety labels really are thwarting Darwin.

[GLOW]

All time legendary thread by.. THE WHITE-HOUSE

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138

whomever's controlling the twitter account after hitting send.

https://c.tenor.com/vbRXEXIqmLIAAAAC/ron-livingston-gangsta.gif

[68style]

Biden’s sarcastic remark to lead this clips off made me laugh out loud:

https://youtu.be/Ydp2Uk9iiGA

[Manic!]

Marjorie Taylor Greene's husband is filing for divorce. What's up with all these pro traditional marriage Christian conservatives getting divorced? Obama and Biden who are the devil are still married for some reason.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rep-marjorie-taylor-greenes-husband-files-for-divorce-2022-9

[sonick]

DeSantis begging Biden for help for Florida after he voted against aid for New York for hurricane Sandy... What a little slimy bitch

DeSantis, Once a ‘No’ on Storm Aid, Petitions a President He’s Bashed https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/us/politics/desantis-biden-hurricane-ian-aid.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEI PuonUktbfqYhkQVUZCibIRp8_qRmHmfnE2_swi2T3KjSUUnNIz ugYBc2A5l3XZKFqYdZ23j2dAdZAPPkvWPl2hKd5DnBadjOJ8NG CiYhXZGI8s56yVWc7mMKcA-g2oG62KzHlebs6meSx4lfWPmG8RKCJ2CcmcV5jppRmJ0q4miBd ntezGe9z2NV_1PskF8o6EW9GPH_WyqGuXxZuO9yGbQXe4h03Wo xbWjLTnt2b7tEQYVkYSAKGHD4kvzFKuJ4LM8gXPa3_MxYiZML4 5LwRAWdoJ4uvbIYjzChT37qsw446_A1YUYkzOQ

[68style]

USA should just annex Florida, be so much better off lol

That state would be worse off than Puerto Rico without all the fed funding it gets…

[CivicBlues]

^umm what? How do you annex something that's already part of you? You mean USA should just kick out Florida?

[68style]

Yes. That :lol

[underscore]

https://c.tenor.com/XZLJcpTRNtsAAAAC/florida-bugs-bunny.gif

[CivicBlues]

It might be the best thing to happen to Florida too if they get kicked out

The only country that's ever been forcibly ejected from another country is Singapore. And they're basically a utopia (with caning and hanging) right now.

Cutting off Florida from the dregs of America could work in it's favour in 50 years or so once the current crop of deplorables die out.

Sink or Swim baby. Sink or Swim.

[sonick]

Lol
https://twitter.com/joehagansays/status/1577737380487991300

[Manic!]

Best political ad ever. It looks fan made but this is a real ad by his appointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fne9P6rfpq0

[SkinnyPupp]

Holy shit!

Marijuana being removed as a scheduled drug, and federal possession charges will all be dropped. They're going to try to get the states to do the same thing.

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1578097878094024712

[mikemhg]

^I'm starting to really like this old man.

He's just moving ahead on items we've always wanted to see get done. Seeing that he's at the climax of his career, not worrying about future elections and finally enacting these initiatives that both sides have avoided like toxic waste.

Much to a Canadian's dismay, the USD is surging right now, this man has been quite the effective president policy-wise and has pushed his agenda forward efficiently.

Those Sleepy Joe comments are looking pretty stupid now -- he's easily been a far more effective president than Trump could've ever dream to been.

[SkinnyPupp]

^I'm starting to really like this old man.

He's just moving ahead on items we've always wanted to see get done. Seeing that he's at the climax of his career, not worrying about future elections and finally enacting these initiatives that both sides have avoided like toxic waste.

Much to a Canadian's dismay, the USD is surging right now, this man has been quite the effective president policy-wise and has pushed his agenda forward efficiently.

Those Sleepy Joe comments are looking pretty stupid now -- he's easily been a far more effective president than Trump could've ever dream to been.

(side note I am happy the HKD is pegged to USD, can't wait to travel soon!)

[68style]

He can fuckin nap for an hour at 3pm every day if he keeps this shit up (not even a mj user myself but love the 360 degree application of this on both the legalization AND penal system fronts).

[sonick]

Holy shit!

Marijuana being removed as a scheduled drug, and federal possession charges will all be dropped. They're going to try to get the states to do the same thing.

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1578097878094024712

Red states and Republicans shitting their pants at the idea of inmates and criminals convicted of minor marijuana related crimes could be let free into their communities, after relying on them as a strawman whattaboutist argument in their gaslighting tactics.

[underscore]

Dumb question, but will those charges being dropped allow some people to vote again? I know down there certain convictions mean you can't.

[El Bastardo]

Dumb question, but will those charges being dropped allow some people to vote again? I know down there certain convictions mean you can't.



Yeah. A felony (in Canada, known as an indictable offence) does bar you in some some states from being able to vote. But this is on a state-to-state basis.

In California a person can vote with a felony conviction, but not while they're currently serving time. Here in Texas a person can vote with a felony conviction when their sentence (including parole/probation) is complete. In Kentucky, so sad too bad. No voting for you. In Maine, everybody can vote (even if you're in Shawshank at the time).

Its a spectrum across the country with voting permissions with felony convictions being allowed, not allowed, or allowed in certain conditions. On parole/probation, off parole/probation, depends on the state.

The real problem is not just the marijuana conviction but the recidivism that occurs as a result of a felony. Felonies bar people from student loans, and a lot of types of employment. It can be a kind of enforced poverty and it predominantly affects young black men who have traditionally faced a number of other barriers to employment so this just compounds the problem.

A middle-class or lower high school kid gets caught with a few joints on his way to a party at 17, gets convicted of a felony, and gets out to find that the world that is accessible to so many is entirely inaccessible to him. What does he do in order to support himself? Turn to crime in many cases. This isn't a judgement on an entire racial socio-economic class... this is the reality.

The fact is that those convictions led to more crime because of the options taken away for what many believe is a harmless indulgence. Without gainful employment, and in a society that openly discriminates against ex-convicts, crime is a very real option for folks.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6580444/
https://bjs.ojp.gov/drugs-and-crime-facts/drug-use-and-crime

I'm paraphrasing a lot of research on the topic, but those recidivism rates also seem to vary from state-to-state.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2012/11/23/red-herring/marijuana-arrestees-do-not-become-violent-felons



This is a good step. I'm not saying its not. I'm just saying that its come decades too late and a lot of lives have been hurt by the policies they're overturning.

[mikemhg]

^Not only that but having a felony not only affects your ability to access grants.

Convicted felons are not allowed to apply for federal or state grants, live in public housing, or receive federal cash assistance, SSI (Social security insurance, our version of EI) or food stamps, among other benefits.

I find this portion the most pernicious of all. Voting is one thing, but to remove your ability from gainful employment and any social assistance is literally insane. You pretty much encourage a person down the path of criminality and recidivism.

It's almost by design.

[underscore]

To my mind by removing their ability to vote is effectively saying they aren't considered a person anymore. After that I guess the rest just follows.

Of course the original point by the right wingers was to make it harder on those they consider undesirable (like hippies and minorities) so it's not overly surprising that they don't want certain groups considered to count as actual people.

[Great68]

I'm ok with convicted felons not being allowed to vote while serving their sentence.

Someone who commits a serious crime broke their social contract to society in some way, so it's reasonable to me that some societal rights be suspended while they are repaying that debt to society.

I mean, murder victims can't vote in elections...

[Manic!]

Need proof conservatives are stupid. Walker in a debate claims to be a cop and pulls out a fake badge.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1581070099502764035?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1581070099502764035%7Ctwgr% 5E22dea2fc8774f14aeab15088f6a5184a9b810614%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-32666004781773050154.ampproject.net%2F220914231200 0%2Fframe.html

[StylinRed]

Looks like Biden is going after journalists working on stories involving classified info

Emmy winning ABC news producer who worked on a story regarding green beret deaths in 2017, and was about to publish a book, suddenly quits, goes missing, and the fbi raids his home. His coworker had also quit and refuses to comment.

The publisher of his book also edited his books intro and then removed it entirely from their release schedule

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/james-gordon-meek-fbi-raid-b2205994.html

Sounds like a movie

[whitev70r]

^ wait ... I thought things like this only happens in Russia or Iran.

[mikemhg]

There is a documentary about this whole debacle.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15909364/

Classic case of shitty military brass sending guys into a shitty situation and attempting to cover their fuckup.

[whitev70r]

Brittney Griner prisoner exchange/trade ... for some arms dealer. Seemed like Biden got fleeced like Benning ...not a very fair trade.

[winson604]

Lol Griner should consider herself the luckiest person on earth right about now.

[westopher]

Lol imagine it was just some random dude. No fuckin chance that would happen.

[murd0c]

crazy how Biden actually gave up the lord of war for her.. WTF was he thinking.

[68style]

He didn't need to think, hardcore left base and current social politics demanded it.

The white guy who was supposed to be packaged in got left to continue rotting.

[MarkyMark]

Black lesbian WNBA player, you couldn't hand pick a better candidate for the woke left to cry over

[GS8]

Interesting how UAE was involved in the trade (facilitating Griney)

I wonder if the UAE is really interesting in facilitating the merchant of death because, you know, he facilitates arms deals with the Taliban and probably al-Qaeda.

The US would look incredibly stupid if Russia & the UAE just pulled a brilliant one over the inept eyes of the leadership of a superpower. Such clear optics, Stevie Wonder would be in awe...

[StylinRed]

Biden had classified files laying around in an old office

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64218179

Classified files found at Biden's former private office
Published
10 hours ago

The US justice department is reviewing documents marked classified found in President Joe Biden's former office at a think tank, the White House says.

About 10 of the files were discovered in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center in Washington in November by Mr Biden's legal team, his lawyer said.

The batch has been handed over to the National Archives.

Mr Biden's predecessor, Donald Trump, is facing a probe for taking classified files to Florida after his presidency.

The documents discovered in Mr Biden's office dated to his time as vice president, according to his lawyer. Mr Biden, who served as President Barack Obama's second-in-command, left that position in January 2017.
...



No matter how it's spun by either side, this isn't going to go away soon

Republicans will definitely use it to point out how Trump is getting mistreated for the same thing

[whitev70r]

Alzheimer ...

Can we please have someone younger as the next candidate ... both Rep and Democrats. Oh sorry ... that's ageism, the new fangle trendy word.

[inv4zn]

Biden had classified files laying around in an old office

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64218179



No matter how it's spun by either side, this isn't going to go away soon

Republicans will definitely use it to point out how Trump is getting mistreated for the same thing

Literally the next part of the article says this:
There are, however, key differences between Mr Biden and Mr Trump's cases.

Mr Trump's inquiry deals with a greater number of classified documents, including 18 marked top secret. Federal prosecutors allege that Mr Trump's legal team did not adequately co-operate with the National Archives to properly return the documents, prompting a historic FBI raid of his Mar-a-Lago estate.

In a statement to the New York Times, the White House said the president's lawyers alerted the National Archives as soon as they recovered the materials and the agency retrieved the materials the next morning.

According to the BBC's US partner CBS News, the FBI is involved in the inquiry and US Attorney General Merrick Garland has been asked to review the papers.

Let's think critically here. I mean Yes, someone on Biden's team (or himself) fucked up, but the similarities end there.

Classified documents held locked at a private office a mile from the White House when he was VP, voluntarily turned over and cooperating with investigation.

Classified Top Secret documents held freely at a home in Florida, repeatedly lying about them, and while under suspicion for influence by foreign entities.

But yes this is a bad look.

[StylinRed]

Yep there's a whole slew of why's, ifs, buts, how comes, n howevers, in the article (spin by both sides)

Not a good look, but totally entertaining :lol

[Bouncing Bettys]

What powers over classified documents do Vice Presidents have vs Presidents?

That Biden thinktank also seems to have funding from China. Does this mean they had access to those documents?

[StylinRed]

The files weren't locked away they were just in a storage closet, also supposedly they pertain to Ukraine, back when Biden Jr and the "big guy" was getting kickbacks from Ukraine

Also, a second cache of classified files was found elsewhere

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64244007

US President Joe Biden's aides have found another batch of classified government records in a second location, according to US media.

The first cache of classified files were found in November at a private office in Washington DC that Mr Biden used after his time as vice-president.

The matter is currently under review by the US Department of Justice.

No details yet ab this second batch

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1613575140347973640

[68style]

It's bad optics, if Trump had said shit you're right I have docs in my basement here you go... it would have been a nothing story.

It turned into a shit storm because he refused to give them back, tried to hide them and was known to show some of them off to people who visited.

Anyone with half a brain can understand the difference... unfortunately the media (if you can call Sean Hannity media at this point in time) is a bunch of screaming babies.

[StylinRed]

That's the problem tho, the media made it a big deal about trump like it was some sort of presidential scale espionage, they were literally blowing every minutiae up to epic scales, it's not surprise why trump was afraid? to admit having documents.

So now something that was common for every president/vp to do is now a big deal, for Biden supporters to now pull a 180 and go "it's no biggie" is comical

The only reason Biden's group are coming out and turning in the documents they have is bcuz the Republicans have some power now and say they're going to investigate :lol

This is what makes us politics entertaining for me, not just how all politicians are drama Queens, but how their supporters are crazed lemmings who flip flop from issues they claim are important af then next describing it as "eh no big deal" :lol

[whitev70r]

Again, both of them (Trump and Biden) should NOT run for re-election ... the Alzheimer is kicking in.

[GS8]

This is what makes us politics entertaining for me, not just how all politicians are drama Queens, but how their supporters are crazed lemmings who flip flop from issues they claim are important af then next describing it as "eh no big deal" :lol

This is actually what ruined politics for me. Can barely have intellectually stimulating discussions anymore. I've just accepted that both sides are filth and that life shouldn't focus on 'left or right' but rather 'up or down'.

Corral the herds and feed them only what you tell them is good for them.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1613612137477464064
Hunter Biden, renowned for his laptop security and responsible lifestyle, a resident of the Fort Knox Corvette garage.:lol Other documents at the Chinese-funded thinktank office. A 3rd location now being reported and who knows who had access to that one. Apparently all discovered and withheld until after the mid-terms, much like the Hunter Biden Laptop story of the 2020 election.

C'mon I really don't want to see a Kamala Harris presidency.

[68style]

I did like 2 minutes of google image searches, and I was able to find at least 5 different versions of Hunter Biden’s driver license…. And they all have different addresses on them depending what angle/agenda the person who posted it is trying to push.

Might want to check the facts of the stuff you’re looking at and reading/believing.

[westopher]

He never has and definitely never will do that.

[mikemhg]

Bouncing, give me a break man, you're posting photoshopped crap as news?

This whole document thing is a total false equivalency.

In one scenario (Trump's) he hid documents and purposely obstructed, refused, and attempted to destroy classified documents.

In the other scenario (Biden's) his lawyers found some mistakenly kept documents, they immediately contacted the National Archives to inform them of such:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-we-know-about-biden-documents-timeline-2023-01-12/

It's an apples or oranges comparison. One is I saw your wallet on your desk and took it, the other is I found your wallet in the bathroom and returned it to you.

Either way, I'm not fan of Hunter Biden, nepotism is a real issue in government, such corruption should be addressed regardless of party affiliation.

This will be investigated, and we'll see the outcome.

[68style]

I was honestly surprised they got his birth date right, that seems like a lot of effort for these right wing nutjobs.

[mikemhg]

This also details the nuance between the two cases here:

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2023/01/12/how-biden-documents-differ-trump/11023172002/

It's most definitely not an apples to apples comparison.

[Great68]

Clearly, Biden should claim that Obama declassified these documents with his mind.

[inv4zn]

If Biden did indeed commit a crime, then he should be held accountable. However the republicans foaming at the mouth right now, were foaming at the mouth a few years ago for exactly the opposite thing.

Republicans, then: "We cannot prosecute a sitting president!!! That's unconstitutional!!!"
Republicans, now: "The sitting president must be prosecuted!!! Nobody is above the constitution!!!"

Give me a break.

[whitev70r]

^ you nailed it. It goes both ways though ... Dems say that to Repubs. Repubs say that to Dems ... depending on who occupies the oval office and who controls the House. So this is the BEST example of democracy that the world has to offer ... ??!! :ahwow:

[Manic!]

Thanx Biden.

Drugs giant Eli Lilly caps monthly insulin costs in US at $35

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-64814505

More than eight million Americans use insulin to control their diabetes, the American Diabetes Association says.

Last year, the US passed a law capping monthly costs at $35 for people with certain government health insurance.

But for many people with private insurance the costs remain much higher.

Eli Lilly said it would institute the cap on out-of-pocket costs for Lilly insulin users immediately as it prepares to cut the list price of two of its most commonly prescribed insulins, Humalog and Humalin, by 70% by the end of the year.

It is also dropping the list price of its non-branded insulin, Lispro, to $25 a vial, effective 1 May.

[mikemhg]

^Working in that industry, this is huge news.

Yet another big win for Biden that these fat Republican voting morons won't give him credit for. But alas..

[Manic!]

^Working in that industry, this is huge news.

Yet another big win for Biden that these fat Republican voting morons won't give him credit for. But alas..

Credit??? They are pissed. The US is now one step closer to becoming a communist country. A company should be able to charge what ever they want for a product and then take some of that profit and put it in the pockets of politicians.

[Traum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-remIimI_1A

This is of course all over the news now, and coming purely from a "I don't wanna see a senior fall down" point of view, I hope he is OK.

The GOP is definitely gonna have a field day with this one though, using this as an example of why Biden is unsuitable for the POTUS job. FailFish

[68style]

Just cuz Trump couldn't fall down... like he'd just lean forward and his belly cushioned him and he just bounced back up

All these guys are way too fucking old to be running shit though... gross

[StylinRed]

Out of all his dementia worry videos and falling videos, that one actually looked pretty tame and he got up fairly well n kept going

[Hondaracer]

The leader of the free world can’t get off the ground under his own power. What a world.

[SkinnyPupp]

Hate to defend Biden but lol god.. Old guy didn't notice there was a step. I've done that myself lol

[Manic!]

There is a reason why trump uses escalators.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsCBr1fWcAAjSmn.jpg

[mikemhg]

He's old for sure but fuck man, the funny thing with these "gotcha" moments is that people are hypocrites.

As a president you pretty much have cameras on you 24/7 when you're in the public eye, imagine if a camera followed you around throughout your normal day to day.

Think of how many times you'd look stupid tripping on stuff, or whatever else.

They'd catch me farting and picking my nose constantly.

[MarkyMark]

I don't know why America can't come up with any decent candidates that aren't ancient. I don't love Trudeau but I'm sure he doesn't need a reminder to put his pants on every morning.

[westopher]

Best way to keep shit working well for old white dudes is old white dudes.

[punkwax]

Best way to keep shit working well for old white dudes is old white dudes.

Wow no respect for prunes eh..

[westopher]

Don't need prunes when the taxpayer pays for the best butt doctors for you, but has to pay out of pocket for themselves.
https://i.etsystatic.com/12395705/r/il/c0d686/1317621915/il_570xN.1317621915_jteh.jpg

[whitev70r]

Hunter Biden ...:yuno: How the Eff can you be so friggin stupid?

Maybe this will be the thing that will convince Joe to change his mind and not run again cuz his stupid son is a albatross around his neck.

[whitev70r]

Hunter ... :rukidding:

What did dad do to you when you were young that you are still venging for?

[Qmx323]

Pretty sure Hunter has brain damage from surviving a serious car accident as a toddler, the same accident that killed his mother and sister.

[6793026]

I don't know why America can't come up with any decent candidates that aren't ancient. I don't love Trudeau but I'm sure he doesn't need a reminder to put his pants on every morning.

no difference when Harper was so game over and just keeping his seat warm. He was so ready to step down but his 1,2,3rd runner up kept resigning before he can pass the ball.

Same thing as Trudeau, he would LOVE to step down and let someone reign... heck does he even give an F now... NOPE, but there is no one.

If Biden doesn't show up, Trump will try to run and win. Doubt ANYONE wants that.

[underscore]

Pretty sure Hunter has brain damage from surviving a serious car accident as a toddler, the same accident that killed his mother and sister.

Even if he didn't suffer any physical injury that's got to be incredibly traumatizing.

[Manic!]

Even if he didn't suffer any physical injury that's got to be incredibly traumatizing.

His brother an Iraq vet also died of brain cancer in 2015. The Biden family has faced a lot of tragedy.

[Manic!]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1756888470599967000

Bidens twitter. LOL. Some of you will get it.

[Manic!]

Holy shit. Yes that Bidens son. This is so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLD1yhxNik

[murd0c]

wait what... That is actually Hunter Biden the president of America's son??? I saw the video the other day and thought it was just some other white dude.

[CivicBlues]

Who's the old guy with the mask on?

[68style]

^ Financed the video

[SkinnyPupp]

https://x.com/POTUS/status/1791152464617431389

[Badhobz]

he looks so friggin out of it... his message is good but his face is betraying his intentions. Gramps looks completely lost

We screwed. Either Tramp or this old geezer.

[SkinnyPupp]

He's a meat puppet

[westopher]

That said, that's a hugely important piece of legislation for America. The disproportionate effects of ridiculous sentences for what is essentially the same as alcohol and the way it has unfairly targeted the black and immigrant communities in the US has gone on for way too long.
Now if he'd just stop funding a genocide Joe might have been able to actually leave a positive legacy.

[GLOW]

He's a meat puppet

weekend at bernie's? :lol

[Traum]

He is reading the script off a teleprompter or something similar -- everybody in that sort of position does this, and this is why he looks a little off.

For an 81 years old, he looks significantly better than the norm. The only elderly person I can think of that did a better job at this sort of thing than Sleepy Joe is the late QE2. But QE2 is definitely the exception rather than the rule. And none of this changes the fact that Sleepy Joe is 81 years old, and he has visibly aged under the public eye in the last 3+ years.

One the other hand, the other geriatric candidate somehow didn't seem to have aged as much in the last few years. Perhaps it is just a matter of him not being in the public eye as much, or maybe I just haven't paid as much attention to him as I had with Sleepy Joe. As far as the vitality front goes though, the Orange Idiot is definitely winning big over Sleepy Joe.

At this point, I am more or less expecting Trump to win and screw the world over. FailFish I seriously hope I'd be proven wrong...

[mikemhg]

People need to get over it already. The reality sucks, but it is what it is, they have two choices right now.

This whole Sleepy Joe stuff is somewhat unfair, all indications from people who meet with Biden indicate he's sharp and focused, and certainly has his whits about him, the whole narrative that he's some walking corpse is false.

The more I observe the two in interviews and speaking engagements, it's Trump who seems to have lost him mind with age, and that makes sense. He's obese, grossly overweight, eats like shit, whereas Joe is healthy and active for a man of his age, that makes a huge difference to your mental acuity.

At the end of the day, and I've said this time and time again, you're voting for the cabinet, not necessarily the figurehead.

Trump's cabinet was a total shitshow, if he gets in again, imagine that times 100.

Rescheduling marijuana is huge, a step closer to legalization.

[Manic!]

Biden was on Howard Stern and seemed pretty competent to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7tziin0RI

Biden challenged trump and he agreed. Date is set for June 27th. I hear trump is trying to weasel his way out of it.

Calling Biden Sleepy Joe makes trump look bad because he lost to him. The most powerful man in the world lost to a man named Sleepy Joe.

[Badhobz]

whats wrong with sleepy joe? im pretty sure thats what they call me at work.

[whitev70r]

They ALL lie.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1863382970729459714

[westopher]

If I were Biden I would absolutely be fucking shit up right now. I'd be making new laws, pardoning everyone I felt like and potentially even kill a few people with that new found presidential immunity.

[Manic!]

Biden did give 6 bill to Rivian pissing off musk.

[68style]

Full on DGAF mode... doesn't care about his legacy anymore

[6793026]

i was soooooooooooooooooooo pissed about his pardon-ing his son.

1) LIESSSS
2) NO he wasn't targetted for NOTHINGGGGGGG

Did he do this so his son can run??? sooooooooo F-ed up.

I hate politics

[Hondaracer]

He’s a multiple felon who Biden said 10+ times he’d never pardon, and surprise surprise he pardoned him.

Only bad when orange man does it though

[Traum]

Of course Biden was wrong to pardon Hunter. In terms of objective metrics, he has been a pretty productive president getting stuff done. But with this pardoning of his son, he has tarnished his own legacy that would otherwise have been received a fairer assessment by future generations.

As 68 says though -- at this point, he is in full on DGAF mode. He has already been salty about getting forced out of the running, and now this. FailFish
Full on DGAF mode... doesn't care about his legacy anymore

[Great68]

How dare Democrats play by the republican rulebook!

[68style]

He’s a multiple felon who Biden said 10+ times he’d never pardon, and surprise surprise he pardoned him.

Only bad when orange man does it though

Trump changed the ground rules, did this or something like it a dozen times... Biden is just like fuck this, that POS would do it I'm going to as well.

Trump has lowered the bar of what it means to be a politician... like... lower than snake's underbelly where it already was.

[Hondaracer]

lol well you guys spend months crying about all this shit then when it’s Biden it’s ok?

This game is tired, everyone is the same shit nothing ever gonna change.

[unit]

Trump changed the ground rules, did this or something like it a dozen times... Biden is just like fuck this, that POS would do it I'm going to as well.

Trump has lowered the bar of what it means to be a politician... like... lower than snake's underbelly where it already was.



so true man... hunters charges are pretty underwhelming tbh. i didnt even know what they were till i looked them up just now. he was charged for lying about drug use when he bought a gun and then for a tax crime. trumps entire career is literal tax crimes, why should we care about these nothingburger charges? if i was an american i would care a lot more about trumps buddies who are literal traitors to the US that got let off due to their loyalty behind bars.

[CivicBlues]

Same here, I had no idea those were the charges

I thought it had something to do with official secrets. What were all the MAGAs squawking about re: HuNtEr BiDeN'S LAPTOP!!!!!!1111

[Great68]

Trump changed the ground rules, did this or something like it a dozen times... Biden is just like fuck this, that POS would do it I'm going to as well.

Trump has lowered the bar of what it means to be a politician... like... lower than snake's underbelly where it already was.

Yeah, I believe that Biden wasn't originally planning to pardon his son but after seeing a convicted criminal who had multiple other serious pending charges and court dates become president and have all of those charges dropped and even his sentencing stayed for the crimes he was convicted of, I don't blame Biden for thinking "What even is the justice system anymore?" and saying fuck it.

And the double standards set for the Democrats are hilarious, noone would say shit if this was Trump pardoning Don Jr because that's what would be expected.

Actually the real kicker is going to be when Trump pardons himself and all the republicans are going to be saying how great he is for doing it.

[whitev70r]

lol well you guys spend months crying about all this shit then when it’s Biden it’s ok?

This game is tired, everyone is the same shit nothing ever gonna change.

Who said it was OK? Nobody. Majority of us who have commented have lost a bit of respect for him and agree that it has tarnished the presidency ... nepotism at its peak. To me, it may be worst because all along, he said he wouldn't, then on his way out, he pardoned him.

Not sure how you read posts, this is more of an example of you twisting people's comments to fit your narrative.

[westopher]

Meh I'll gladly say I'm putting in a double standard between him and trump. Why? Cause one is a way worse person than the other, and has committed thousands more terrible actions than the other.
It's literally the way the justice system (at least is supposed to) work. People with a prior record of terrible behaviour are punished more than a first time offender. I'd pardon my fuckin kid too, as long as it wasn't murder or rape or something.

[Traum]

According to some Trump-supporting idiot that keeps spewing nonsense in a FB group I'm in, more than 1/2 of the American voters knowingly voted Trump despite his felony charges, bankruptcies, previous track record as POTUS, etc., and so the voters have spoken about how they do not mind/care about these supposed atrocities that are drummed up and overemphasized by biased left wing media.

I was like WutFace

These idiots have literally made their own bed. Too bad they'll drag the rest of us down along with them when they lie in it. FailFish
so true man... hunters charges are pretty underwhelming tbh. i didnt even know what they were till i looked them up just now. he was charged for lying about drug use when he bought a gun and then for a tax crime. trumps entire career is literal tax crimes, why should we care about these nothingburger charges? if i was an american i would care a lot more about trumps buddies who are literal traitors to the US that got let off due to their loyalty behind bars.

[supafamous]

Considering how the Republicans got so worked up about Hunter Biden you'd think the guy was responsible for Benghazi or something.

Don't love Joe doing this but considering his life of service and the state of politics today this is but a minor dent in his legacy.

It doesn't even rise to the level of Orange Man pardoning his son-in-law's father for far worse crimes and then making him ambassador to France. If that's a 10 then pardoning Hunter is a 4.

[Traum]

It doesn't even rise to the level of Orange Man pardoning his son-in-law's father for far worse crimes and then making him ambassador to France. If that's a 10 then pardoning Hunter is a 4.
I am not that familiar with Charles Kushner, and I am trying to be fair. According to his Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner), his crimes were certainly far worse than what Hunter has done. The big difference with Hunter though is -- Charles Kushner has served out his full sentence in 2006, and was released from prison. And then he received the pardon from Trump in 2020. Whereas with Hunter, he has pleaded guilty and is waiting for sentencing when he gets pardoned. So that is quite a dramatic difference that I don't think anyone can deny.

With Kushner, you can even make the argument that since he has already fully served his prison term, society ought to look beyond his past mistake and give him another fair chance. (I'd disagree with that view about Kushner, but I digress.)

I don't know my US pardons too well, but if Charles Kushner has already served his full sentence, what purpose did Trump pardoning him actually serve? That his criminal record is erased? which allows him to get appointed to become the ambassador to France now?

The pardon for Hunter is very different, since he is literally receiving a get out of jail card.

[underscore]

lol well you guys spend months crying about all this shit then when it’s Biden it’s ok?

You spent years being fine with all Trumps shit, then when Biden does it once it's a problem?

nepotism at its peak.

He also got attacked quite a bit by republicans purely because of who his dad is, so the guy has had a fair bit of whatever the opposite of nepotism is as well. Marge seemed pretty obsessed with his dick and kept illegally displaying photos of it publicly.

Maybe it's a stupid thing to do but compared to all the nepotism that filled Trumps original administration this isn't even close to the peak.

[unit]

trump literally put his whole family in the white house, none of which have political experience or expertise. just 100% grifters through and through.

[Badhobz]

If I was Joe I’d done the same thing. The system is going to shit anyways I might as well benefit my crack head kid. Fuck it !!!

[pastarocket]

100 percent. If I was Joe, I would also do the same thing and pardon Hunter Biden.

Cheeto keeps making claims that the Democrats weaponized the US department of Justice so that the judges do the bidding for the Dems.

-pretty hypocritical stance from Cheeto if you ask me. Marmalade appointed judges for the US Supreme Court and the US Court of Appeals so that he can use the American judicial system as a tool for himself. A weaponized court system to help Cheeto.

Maybe Sleepy Joe has a fear that Cheeto would somehow ask US Supreme Court judges to sentence Hunter to a lengthy jail term as a way to get revenge over Joe and the Democrats?

Biden is being a father to protect his son from a power hungry President Elect who is determined to exact revenge on enemies.

[Hondaracer]

Biden is the president pardoning a multiple time felon. He doesn’t get to just be a father lol

Regardless of Orange man this justification is comical.

[pastarocket]

Biden is the president pardoning a multiple time felon. He doesn’t get to just be a father lol

Regardless of Orange man this justification is comical.


I understand why Biden is pardoning his son. Is it wrong for him to do so? -plenty of arguments for Joe to pardon and not pardon Hunter.

The threats from No. 47 are real. Cheeto said it himself that he is going after "perceived enemies".

It is no laughing matter when you have a power hungry President elect who will do anything to get revenge against his enemies. -would be easy for Cheeto to make an example of Hunter.

If anyone thought that Cheeto's first term as POTUS was wild, we have not seen nothing yet during his second term.

[westopher]

Biden is the president pardoning a multiple time felon. He doesn’t get to just be a father lol

Regardless of Orange man this justification is comical.

Nah I already explained why it isn't.

[68style]

All you can do is sit back and laugh at the USA now, I think westopher said it before the entire country just has the feel of a pickup truck with the gas pedal pegged and no headlights on and a drunk/high redneck at the wheel looking for a pride flag or minority to destroy while getting his dick sucked by his gay cousin who's half black.

[Qmx323]

I'd have settled for "runaway freight train" but the imagery you've created is welcome, too

[westopher]

All you can do is sit back and laugh at the USA now, I think westopher said it before the entire country just has the feel of a pickup truck with the gas pedal pegged and no headlights on and a drunk/high redneck at the wheel looking for a pride flag or minority to destroy while getting his dick sucked by his gay cousin who's half black.

I think that's paraphrased but even better.

[unit]

All you can do is sit back and laugh at the USA now, I think westopher said it before the entire country just has the feel of a pickup truck with the gas pedal pegged and no headlights on and a drunk/high redneck at the wheel looking for a pride flag or minority to destroy while getting his dick sucked by his gay cousin who's half black.

this is art.