[SkinnyPupp]

Pretty disturbing story, not all details are out yet. We don't know the motive yet but...

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tribuneledgernews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/aa/7aad6ed4-86bc-11eb-a19b-175e0135295c/605155337c9c3.image.jpg

My first guess is this 21 year old racist incel decided to attack these women.

I've been noticing more racism towards Asians in the US, at least it's being more exposed to me in the news and social media, and with organizations bringing it up to fight it.

The obvious reason is Trump's constant racist remarks influencing these idiots, and it goes on from there. From snide remarks, to random attacks, to down right serial shootings. Pretty fucked up.

[twitchyzero]

i once came across a sub that was dedicated to hating asian women with non-asian guys

:fulloffuck:

[SkinnyPupp]

i once came across a sub that was dedicated to hating asian women with non-asian guys

:fulloffuck:
Was it a white group or an asian group? I've seen that form of racism on both sides LUL

[StylinRed]

When I first read the title I thought gang violence, then I opened the link and saw the pic... ffs yeah I've been hearing about all sorts of hate crimes against Asians lately not just in the US but in Canada as well

Even my family in the states NY, Boston, WA, Cali have all experienced racism these past couple of years


Edit: side note I think at least one of these places was more like a happy ending place than actual massage, it's named "young Asian massage"

[SkinnyPupp]

It's obviously that kind of place, most likely all of them. Shouldn't discriminate though, it's tough enough for sex workers to work under draconian laws.

[320icar]

Edit: side note I think at least one of these places was more like a happy ending place than actual massage, it's named "young Asian massage"

*Young’s asian massage

[StylinRed]

It's obviously that kind of place, most likely all of them. Shouldn't discriminate though, it's tough enough for sex workers to work under draconian laws.

Yeah but it just makes me think if there's some sort of religious angle with this guy too where he thinks he's taking on heathens... But maybe I'm just discriminating him based on his appearance

[Teriyaki]

Nobody deserves to go that way, especially while at your place of work trying to provide for yourself and family. Shooter is a scum

First large incident targeted against Asians, and it certainly won't be the last. There's a real deep rooted societal problem that goes back decades. It was never really solved, and now its rearing its ugly head again. Realize we never really get taught about the Chinatown riots and other historic anti-asian policies/acts in school.

[sonick]

The callousness of the police statement empathizing for the killer is :fulloffuck:

The news conference stated that "Yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did"

[mikemhg]

When I heard about this story yesterday, without even looking at the photo, first thing I thought was incel.

Seeing his face, this is definitely the case, among some possible racist motives.

These kind of guys are a dime a dozen in the US, I'm telling you.

What a coincidence though, mass shooter shoots a bunch of Asian girls, and arrives safe and sound in police custody.

Not to make this a racial discussion, but why the fuck are these guys never shot and killed like a black man possibly armed and interacting with police?

They probably bought this guy a hamburger on the way to the precinct like they did Dylan Roof.

It's becoming laughable at this point.

[sonick]

Fucking savage:

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1372265496599535622

[Hondaracer]

To Mike’s point that’s kinda fucked up as well as literally in under 12 hours of the murders NBC and even the local radio stations have police saying “the criminal actually says it wasn’t a racially based attack but rather he had a sexual disorder that he was trying to deal with”

Now I don’t follow the mainstream media too much but I can guarantee you if this was a black person etc. They are going to be in the deepest, darkest, cell you can find and the character assasination will be in full force rather than trying to portray the perps message out to the media lol..fucked up

[68style]

I wouldn’t go so far as to say he “looks” like an incel, he may well be but I’m not so sure they all look alike... he does look like a very typical guns and confederate flag truck owner though.

Sad day, more flames being stoked in America’s growing race war.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/FridaGhitis/status/1372240592332283914

[StylinRed]

If he were black or middle eastern looking he would be dead and or marked a terrorist before any investigation

'mericuh doesn't change

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup, not a terrorist, but someone with a "mental disorder"

Remember last year when there was a debate here about the guy who was shot to death while running away from cops who caught him sleeping in his car at a Wendy's?

People actually debated about that. Those members all left after Trump lost, but it's a reminder that there are people who think like this, even in Canada.

[supafamous]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/spa-shooter-bad-day-racist-facebook

Headline: The Cop Who Said The Spa Shooter Had "A Bad Day" Previously Posted A Racist Shirt Blaming China For The Pandemic

[SkinnyPupp]

Fuck

[BIC_BAWS]

Yup, not a terrorist, but someone with a "mental disorder"

Remember last year when there was a debate here about the guy who was shot to death while running away from cops who caught him sleeping in his car at a Wendy's?

People actually debated about that. Those members all left after Trump lost, but it's a reminder that there are people who think like this, even in Canada.Remember when I said white people are always labeled as "mental disorder" and coloured people (usually middle Eastern) are labeled as "territorists"?

Also when people commit hate crimes against white people and black people, it's actually hate crime. But hate crime against Asian people is just "aggrevated assault"

Got failed a bunch, probably will get failed a bunch too. But crimes against Asians don't matter to most people.

Also that dude who killed that elderly grandpa, his peers are like "my ___ is such a good boy, he would never doing something like that". Funny how those same people might be the same people who riot the streets when one of their own is jumped the same way.

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[68style]

I don't think anyone disagrees with you, it's just that generalizing doesn't do anyone any favours and tends to weaken the stance of the one generalizing even when they're right...

We would all do well to avoid statements like "everyone" and "always" in society, heck, even our own personal relationships and love lives for that matter...

[StylinRed]

He bought his gun the same day

Someone on twitter noted in GA if you wanted an abortion, you have to wait 24hrs before you can go through with the procedure, a gun? right away

Hours before the shootings started, Long bought a gun from Big Woods Goods in Holly Springs, an employee told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Now the store is cooperating with law enforcement. A 9mm firearm was found when Long was arrested.

https://www.ajc.com/news/exclusive-spa-shooting-suspect-bought-gun-hours-before-deadly-spree/FEURWVYBEFBMJP7GLOQ6AQJ27A/

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/sheenayapchan/status/1372310399459209218

Dude randomly attacks old Chinese lady (after already beating up an 89 year old Asian man), she fucks him up, he goes to the hospital

Look at him try to give her the finger and it's broken backwards LUL

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Yeah but it just makes me think if there's some sort of religious angle with this guy too where he thinks he's taking on heathens... But maybe I'm just discriminating him based on his appearance

heathens... infidels...

[GLOW]

i thought the guy actually went to parlours too, which makes it weird.. hates asians, but not enough to get happy endings from them?

glad to see guy got it from granny...she wasn't old 'n frail like most attacks...

[pastarocket]

True story from my extended family. My American cousins, all women, live in California, Texas, and Florida. My cousins in B.C. and I keep in touch through a Whatsapp group chat with our American extended family.

One of my cousins in Burnaby sent a Youtube link twice in the past year during this pandemic through Whatsapp. A Youtube video about the "Top 3 best handguns to buy" for women.

Then my cousin in Burnaby sends a message " Y'all stay safe!"

I don't believe for a minute that carrying a handgun will change the attitudes that some racist Americans have towards Chinese Americans or any Asian American for that matter.

That being said, I was cheering for that Chinese senior, the granny, for standing up for herself, and using that two by four to defend herself from that white bully.

Like what SkinnyPup said in his last post, she fucked him up good! :lawl:

OG granny laid his ass out. -turned the tables on that piece of shit!

How sad is it that there needs to be more resources available for Asian Americans to protect themselves from assaults during this pandemic and even pre-pandemic.

Trump made things worse with his statements during the pandemic. Calling Covid "China Virus" and "Kung Flu". Some Americans that support Cheeto will latch on to those comments to justify their violence against Asian Americans. -to justify their racism, bigotry.

More police patrols? Neighbourhood watch?

-can't always depend on the cops to protect you from violence perpetrated against you because you are Chinese, Asian.

Self defence is a right! Maybe I should ask my cousin from Burnaby to show me some of his black belt karate moves, kung fu, or Muay Thai kickboxing. :considered:

[hchang]

Nobody deserves to go that way, especially while at your place of work trying to provide for yourself and family. Shooter is a scum

First large incident targeted against Asians, and it certainly won't be the last. There's a real deep rooted societal problem that goes back decades. It was never really solved, and now its rearing its ugly head again. Realize we never really get taught about the Chinatown riots and other historic anti-asian policies/acts in school.

Hey guys the only way to respond to this is to Riot and Loot

:troll:

#AsianLivesMatter
#ALM
#RiotAndLootToGetPointAcross

:troll:

[Manic!]

Not the first mass shooting on Asians and won't be the last. America is fckd.

[pastarocket]

-older article is showing how desperate some Asian Americans are when it comes to protecting themselves, their properties, and their families.

Apparently, gun shop business is booming with a sharp increase in Asian Americans buying hand guns and rifles during this pandemic.

Martial arts defence is not enough these days to deter attacks.

Glocks and AR-15s?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith/2021/03/18/asian-americans-buy-guns-for-protection-from-hate-crimes/?sh=7d34e66f3edd

Fact: Jimmy Gong, the gun shop owner in the article, mentioned that you do not need U.S. citizenship in order to buy a gun in the US. -just need a Green Card. LUL

[chinook79]

About a month ago, ran into this scum on skytrain. I don't normally take skytrain so I am not sure if this is frequent occurrence but as I was getting out of skytrain, this guy asked me if I was Japanese and before I had chance to answer, he said I am next and he'll shoot me dead. If this happened elsewhere, I probably would've just shrugged it off and walked away, but it happened so close to elderly relative's home. I kept distance enough and called 911 leading up to his arrest as I followed him when he ran away. Shit like this isn't just happening in south of the border but at our very own backyard...

https://ibb.co/Zh75Qp4
https://ibb.co/B3mCPfq

[CivicBlues]

i thought the guy actually went to parlours too, which makes it weird.. hates asians, but not enough to get happy endings from them?


You can absolutely hold these views without being contradictory. To the shooter, these women were just fucktoys. Inhuman submissive playthings that can be disposed of at his whim.

Also, this (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/alt-right-asian-fetish.html)

[highfive]

About a month ago, ran into this scum on skytrain. I don't normally take skytrain so I am not sure if this is frequent occurrence but as I was getting out of skytrain, this guy asked me if I was Japanese and before I had chance to answer, he said I am next and he'll shoot me dead. If this happened elsewhere, I probably would've just shrugged it off and walked away, but it happened so close to elderly relative's home. I kept distance enough and called 911 leading up to his arrest as I followed him when he ran away. Shit like this isn't just happening in south of the border but at our very own backyard...

https://ibb.co/Zh75Qp4
https://ibb.co/B3mCPfq

Good on you for calling the cops.

I doubt the cops can do anything after except for releasing him back.

But this prejudice shit been existing for long time. Just because of covid, they have an excuse to act on it.

If anything, it's sad. They're ignorant, they learn from people around them (wrong people) and the experiences they encountered.

If anything, they need better education and opening their minds to different things and that the world is much larger than place you live in.

[68style]

You can absolutely hold these views without being contradictory. To the shooter, these women were just fucktoys. Inhuman submissive playthings that can be disposed of at his whim.

Also, this (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opinion/sunday/alt-right-asian-fetish.html)

^
I notice this on Facebook all the time

All the far right Trump thumping anti-immigration old white guys with beards and eagle shirts... literally a fuckin 50/50 chance you click on their profile they have a Filipino or Thai or Mexican wife... it’s downright bizarre.

[mikemhg]

^
I notice this on Facebook all the time

All the far right Trump thumping anti-immigration old white guys with beards and eagle shirts... literally a fuckin 50/50 chance you click on their profile they have a Filipino or Thai or Mexican wife... it’s downright bizarre.

They are able to compartmentalize their prejudice. They are able to separate what they're willing to fuck, versus who they would befriend, or respect as a person.

I agree, it's bizarre, but extremely common.

I was in Philippines a few years ago with my father. We were sitting listening to two fat white guys, one of which proudly worked as a manager at Walmart. Both were talking about their love of Trump, and how Filipino hookers are money-hungry scammers and that they call them "Big daddy" when they come to town, all the while a young Filipino girl is sitting silently with them at their table.

I turned to my father and said loudly, "I hate when these garbage people come from first world countries to talk so disparagingly about the locals", while turning around to the both of them.

They both said nothing, and eventually got up and left.

I enjoyed that result :lol

[CorneringArtist]

I wouldn’t go so far as to say he “looks” like an incel, he may well be but I’m not so sure they all look alike... he does look like a very typical guns and confederate flag truck owner though.

Sad day, more flames being stoked in America’s growing race war.

He drove a Hyundai. Like a few of the other incel shooters.

[!Aznboi128]

https://youtu.be/1iK_bu_z6Bk

Anyone remember this?

[68style]

They are able to compartmentalize their prejudice. They are able to separate what they're willing to fuck, versus who they would befriend, or respect as a person.

I agree, it's bizarre, but extremely common.

I was in Philippines a few years ago with my father. We were sitting listening to two fat white guys, one of which proudly worked as a manager at Walmart. Both were talking about their love of Trump, and how Filipino hookers are money-hungry scammers and that they call them "Big daddy" when they come to town, all the while a young Filipino girl is sitting silently with them at their table.

I turned to my father and said loudly, "I hate when these garbage people come from first world countries to talk so disparagingly about the locals", while turning around to the both of them.

They both said nothing, and eventually got up and left.

I enjoyed that result :lol

Yah man, I had the same experience, sitting in a rest-o-lounge in Makati watching decrepit old scumbags go up the elevator to the hourly hotel rooms upstairs just one after another and seeing these girls or ladyboys come back down 15 minutes later with the most vacant sad look in their eyes with their meagre amount of pesos, probably lucky if they didn't get beaten that time.

Just disgusting..........

I went to visit a friend's sister at her large European owned multinational company, fancy building where they made like $400 a month working 6 days a week with a, get this, Aston Martin dealership in the bottom of it... so not only do they pay them shit but they make them walk by cars that are worth more than 10 of their lives combined to their oppressors... but I ended up sitting at a restaurant next door with my friend and a bunch of (of course) white executives were sitting there laughing about where to holiday in the summer because it's too hot there and I was like "Do you guys ever feel ashamed of yourselves that your company comes here, transplants you in on a paid vacation with a hefty salary and pads their bottom line making all the locals slave away for nothing while you sit here and laugh about where your next holiday is going to be? You people make me sick."

Got a few "What's your fucking problem asshole?" type comments yelled at me as I walked out. It's never going to change, not in our lifetimes.

[pastarocket]

Racism exists everywhere. There are decent and kind people in America and other countries too.

I am also gonna share a story from a vacation.

My family and I went on a Carnival cruise from Orlando to the Bahamas back in the day one summer as a teenager.

For some reason, the cruise ship had assigned seating for guests for all meals.

My family sat with a family of Americans for all our meals. A family from the South. North Carolina.

The head of that family, a white senior, shook hands with my Dad to introduce himself and his family.


We had good conversations between my family and their family about our vacation, the Bahamas, etc. We shared stories about life in Canada and the US.

I was a bit shocked. -heard stories about the US South being full of racist people.

Boy, was I wrong. Maybe as a young guy I thought the North Carolina family would wear their KKk hoods and gowns to dinner. :lawl:

There were no micro-aggressions from that North Carolina family. No questions about “Where are you really from??” or questions about race, skin colour, Or stereotypes.

None.

The family of North Carolina were curious about our Canadian health care system and our weather in BC.

My parents explained to the white family that universal healthcare is good in Canada. The weather can be rainy on the west coast.

However, we explained to the North Carolina family we do not live in igloos with heavy snow.

They laughed. Fun times.


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[CivicBlues]

Oh...kay, not sure what you're getting at with that story no one here is saying all Americans or even Americans from the South are racist. In fact some of the most hospitable people I know are Southern Americans.

Also the socio-economic strata that patronizes cruises wouldn't be the ones being rabid racists though. Though, get back to me if you ever try to date their daughter though.

Would it blow your mind to know there's a longstanding community of Chinese in the state of Mississippi? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NMrqGHr5zE

[StylinRed]

Bay area in cali has been having a lot of hate crime incidents against elderly Asians, a few street assaults have happened this week

It's not just white ppl even tho we may assume that from up here, which is actually quite surprising to me, and in a way more depressing

[whitev70r]

Apparently, the first Sheriff who attributed it to 'sex addiction and the guy having a bad day' had some 'interesting' FB posts! He has been relieved of his duties.

https://twitter.com/RichPhelps/status/1372257212966440960

[mikemhg]

Apparently, the first Sheriff who attributed it to 'sex addiction and the guy having a bad day' had some 'interesting' FB posts! He has been relieved of his duties.

https://twitter.com/RichPhelps/status/1372257212966440960

I'll repeat myself as I always do. Systemic issue.

Address police funding, restructure, cleanse these corrupt and dirty forces.

[Ch28]

It's fucked how blatantly obvious the systemic racism is but nothing is being done about it.

[twitchyzero]

guess we can no longer joke about 'luv u rong time'

asian american porn stars not gonna speak out?

[68style]

Porn is like... immune to modernization or cancel culture somehow?

Think about it, half the most popular videos are like step-dads and their step-daughters... brother/sister theme... archetypes being portrayed "Oh look at the big black man violate my wife"... the taxi / van / bus rape and drop in the middle of nowhere scenarios. Soooooooooo many others too I can't even mention it all but you all know what's up lol

If shit was going to hit the fan with porn it would have a LONG time ago.

I mean half the titles of videos are blatantly racist or borderline pedophile... YOUNG girls etc... lol

[twitchyzero]

actually pornhub is in trouble posting child porn

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/pornhub-visits-drop-amid-allegations-it-hosted-non-consensual-content-1.5331541

[BIC_BAWS]

actually pornhub is in trouble posting child porn

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/pornhub-visits-drop-amid-allegations-it-hosted-non-consensual-content-1.5331541Yeah ph deleted all the unverified amateur videos..

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[SkinnyPupp]

actually pornhub is in trouble posting child porn

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/pornhub-visits-drop-amid-allegations-it-hosted-non-consensual-content-1.5331541
That's not really the point.. More that porn continues to serve weird fetishes that would not be acceptable in modern society, like racist fetishism, pedo fetishism, etc, and it is "tolerated".

[Mr.Money]

i once came across a sub that was dedicated to hating asian women with non-asian guys

:fulloffuck:

Was it a white group or an asian group? I've seen that form of racism on both sides LUL




Don't forget other Asian groups hating chinese because mainlanders are the weirdest people pissing on the streets & Looking disgusted at mentally handicap people from a distance in public like its gonna infect them.

[SkinnyPupp]

Don't forget other Asian groups hating chinese because mainlanders are the weirdest people pissing on the streets & Looking disgusted at mentally handicap people from a distance in public like its gonna infect them.
Yeah or racist against South Asians and Southeast Asians, which I've seen more than once.

[whitev70r]

The correct term is AAPI ... at least it was today.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://youtu.be/L6V7iLh6kuM

[CivicBlues]

Pretty ballsy of you to go with that opinion on a site that is >50% Asian.

Look I'm an Asian male that hasn't faced any type of overt racism in years (surprisingly the last incident was when I was at a stoplight in Bellingham a few years ago). But I would in no way try and discount or diminish the experience of a black person's fear of the police or a woman's fear of sexual violence. But for some reason we simply need yet another fragile white youtuber telling people racism doesn't exist.. or it does but it "just isn't that bad".

Also, gotta love his solution to all this. "Racism against Asians ain't that bad, but you should all just go out and buy guns anyways."

[twitchyzero]

Hey guys the only way to respond to this is to Riot and Loot


you forgot go support asian-owned businesses

never understood that...

[Manic!]

https://youtu.be/L6V7iLh6kuM

white guy protecting another white guy. Whats new.

If the person was brown he would be screaming isis as quick as he could make a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHUF9BoO-BY

[lowside67]

Pretty ballsy of you to go with that opinion on a site that is >50% Asian.
Actually, it is a very sound argument. 100% of his victims were sex workers, and if there was a hate crime, the evidence points to it being hatrid against sex workers, not Asians.

In fact, as far as I know (and I could certainly be wrong), there is no evidence to support the conclusion that he was specifically targeting Asians.

The simple fact that 6/9 people he shot were Asian does not provide whatsoever that his goal was to shoot Asians - which is the angle a lot of the initial media coverage provided because it's an even better headline.

The alternative explanation which also fits would be that the demographic of sex workers in these massage businesses were overwhelmingly Asian, which explains why then the proportion of victims were also proportionally Asian.

This is a terrible crime either way, but I wish we could focus on mourning the victims, punishing the criminals, and preventing repeats - instead of twisting the facts to create a better headline or to further an agenda.

-Mark

[Manic!]

This is a terrible crime either way, but I wish we could focus on mourning the victims, punishing the criminals, and preventing repeats - instead of twisting the facts to create a better headline or to further an agenda.





Hate crimes get a longer prison sentance.

[CivicBlues]

Actually, it is a very sound argument. 100% of his victims were sex workers, and if there was a hate crime, the evidence points to it being hatrid against sex workers, not Asians.

In fact, as far as I know (and I could certainly be wrong), there is no evidence to support the conclusion that he was specifically targeting Asians.

The simple fact that 6/9 people he shot were Asian does not provide whatsoever that his goal was to shoot Asians - which is the angle a lot of the initial media coverage provided because it's an even better headline.

The alternative explanation which also fits would be that the demographic of sex workers in these massage businesses were overwhelmingly Asian, which explains why then the proportion of victims were also proportionally Asian.

This is a terrible crime either way, but I wish we could focus on mourning the victims, punishing the criminals, and preventing repeats - instead of twisting the facts to create a better headline or to further an agenda.

-Mark

Actually a few of the victims were not sex workers and were either managers of the store or customers/bystanders.

The fact of the mater is it doesn't matter what percentage of his victims were Asian ( would 7 out of 9 count? Or in your mind would it have to be 9 out of 9 for it to count as a hate crime?). It's a hate crime because he was a frequent patron of these establishments and fetishized Asian women to a point that he saw them as disposable vessels. He also conveniently passed over strip clubs staffed mainly by whites next to the massage parlors, because come on if you're going to get a rub-n-tug you're probably going to stop by the peeler bar at least once for curiosity. If that's not racism I don't know what is.

Sick and tired of people trying to white-splain out of this mess. Same gaslighting BS happened when George Floyd was killed. OnE oF ThE CoPs WaSn'T WhItE sO iT CaN't Be RaCiSt!!!!111

[twitchyzero]

he was heard saying imma kill all Asians so there’s end of that debate

[lowside67]

Actually a few of the victims were not sex workers and were either managers of the store or customers/bystanders.

The fact of the mater is it doesn't matter what percentage of his victims were Asian ( would 7 out of 9 count? Or in your mind would it have to be 9 out of 9 for it to count as a hate crime?). It's a hate crime because he was a frequent patron of these establishments and fetishized Asian women to a point that he saw them as disposable vessels. He also conveniently passed over strip clubs staffed mainly by whites next to the massage parlors, because come on if you're going to get a rub-n-tug you're probably going to stop by the peeler bar at least once for curiosity. If that's not racism I don't know what is.

Sick and tired of people trying to white-splain out of this mess.
"White-splain"... really? My argument is not any less sound because I am white and I don't really know why your back is up - I am not in ANY way condoning, diminishing, or accepting what this guy did. It is truly disgusting.

My point is simply that there is not overwhelming evidence that his intent was to shoot Asian people, where there is significant evidence that his intent was to target sex workers. And yes - they are sex workers, reporting has stated that those massage parlors have been documented to provide sexual services.

"Mr. Long, who is white, said he had targeted the spas because he wanted to remove a “temptation,” the authorities have said. A former roommate of his at a halfway house said Mr. Long had tried to stop acting on his sexual desires as recently as 2020 but had continued going to massage parlors for sex."
(Quote from the NYT)

My point continues to be that this is a gross act of murder and if I was a juror, I could get behind life without parole in solitary in a new york minute - the harshest punishment possible short of the death penalty.

I just think we are doing all of ourselves a disservice by not challenging some of the reporting that clearly is leveraging this to push forward their own narrative.

-Mark

[GLOW]

i saw the guy's videos of stats showing decreased asian hate crimes over the years...on social media i also see news of increased asian hate crimes over the years, especially relating to the pandemic...wonder who's stats are correct ...

also, everyone is saying they're sex workers (not sure if it makes a diff), but i'm seeing articles as mentioned that they're actually not, they own, or do nails (i.e. spa stuff, etc).

white-splain...i think i just expanded my vocab here LUL...

either way, it's an opportunity for micro-aggressions against asians finally have a little bit of spotlight on it. if he's trying to get out of the hate crime bit i think he's SOL...hating against gender like he's stating, is also a hate crime in georgia apparently.

[CivicBlues]

"White-splain"... really? My argument is not any less sound because I am white and I don't really know why your back is up - I am not in ANY way condoning, diminishing, or accepting what this guy did. It is truly disgusting.

My point is simply that there is not overwhelming evidence that his intent was to shoot Asian people, where there is significant evidence that his intent was to target sex workers. And yes - they are sex workers, reporting has stated that those massage parlors have been documented to provide sexual services.

"Mr. Long, who is white, said he had targeted the spas because he wanted to remove a “temptation,” the authorities have said. A former roommate of his at a halfway house said Mr. Long had tried to stop acting on his sexual desires as recently as 2020 but had continued going to massage parlors for sex."
(Quote from the NYT)

My point continues to be that this is a gross act of murder and if I was a juror, I could get behind life without parole in solitary in a new york minute - the harshest punishment possible short of the death penalty.

I just think we are doing all of ourselves a disservice by not challenging some of the reporting that clearly is leveraging this to push forward their own narrative.

-Mark

But not ALL his victims were sex workers, so according to your logic we can't make that assumption either.

Also, I'd be hesitant to take the word of a mass murderer over eyewitness accounts from the victims of him saying he wanted to kill all Asians, but that's just me.

Again not sure what kind of "narrative" you think is being pushed on you? The fact of the matter is there have been an uptake in random unprovoked attacks on Asians in the past year, if it takes a mass shooting of MOSTLY Asians to shine a spotlight on it, what does it matter what his ultimate motive was?

George Floyd wasn't technically killed because he was black, but because he was passing counterfeit bills and resisting arrest. Should we just dismiss the whole BLM movement too then?

[StylinRed]

Another mass shooting going on rn in the states, in boulder (is this like the 100th time boulder colorado had a mass shooting?)

[Manic!]

Another mass shooting going on rn in the states, in boulder (is this like the 100th time boulder colorado had a mass shooting?)

Multiple dead including one police officer.

[donk.]

:inout:

[twitchyzero]

Murica's back

[SkinnyPupp]

Asian Americans: We need to increase visibility of the racism we deal with, which has been ignored for decades. We need people to see it, we need more media coverage of it.

Shitty youtuber: Nothing has changed, it's just the increase of media coverage of it. "Fake Hysteria"

Fuckin FailFish

[mikemhg]

^It's so boring and lame.

Wow, that guy is being so edgy and controversial, another white youtuber that comes out during a racial attack to state "All is well, it's just an exaggeration".

We hear this same garbage every time a black man is shot by police. The constant gaslighting by white internet personalities that want to smell their owns farts, and be contrarian on a very obvious issue/subject.

We're just seeing now happen by these folks against Asian violence/racism. Same formula, different demographic.

[mikemhg]

The shooter in Boulder appears to be...Muslim? Great... now we'll hear about real terrorism again :lol

The guy looks like Bert Kreischer tho, so who knows. It will be interesting to hear his motivations.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0Z-Y7sSKN3c/maxresdefault.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

He probably got a random boner and decided to punish everyone for it

[Teriyaki]

Just had a bad day, typical end of his rope kinda thing.

Seriously though, Merica needs to fix its gun issue.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/VitoGesualdi/status/1374382375908483079
https://twitter.com/crabcrawler1/status/1374398159590359045
A bit of TDS?
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1374383487180939272

[SkinnyPupp]

Imagine being happy about the ethnicity of a mass shooter and then posting circle jerk tweets about it.

[Bouncing Bettys]

He probably got a random boner and decided to punish everyone for it

The shooter in Boulder appears to be...Muslim? Great... now we'll hear about real terrorism again :lol

The guy looks like Bert Kreischer tho, so who knows. It will be interesting to hear his motivations.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0Z-Y7sSKN3c/maxresdefault.jpg

Imagine being happy about the ethnicity of a mass shooter and then posting circle jerk tweets about it.
Yeah imagine that...

[SkinnyPupp]

What?

[mikemhg]

No idea what type of point you're trying to make here, Bouncy.

[CivicBlues]

In every single thread about racism without fail there has to be some contrarian who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room going against popular sentiment.

Welfare is M.I.A. so I guess it's just a matter of assholes abhorring a vacuum.

[pastarocket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTJa_SwHcTE

Respect for this Asian American. He is definitely a U.S. patriot. It takes guts to do that in front of people. -to show literally the scars on his body as part of the sacrifices that he made for his country.