[SuperAman]

I just found this out, apparently there is a new stat day in September
Reconciliation Day. September 30th.

anyone know if this is only for government federal employees or is this for the general public.

[MG1]

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/maple-leaf/defence/2021/07/federal-statutory-holiday-national-day-for-truth-and-reconciliation.html

[SuperAman]

ahh so it appears to be only for government employees only "federal public employees"

[MG1]

It's a stat, so most places will follow. I'm sure provincial and municipal governments will recognize it. It is, after all, an important reason to recognize, commemorate, reflect, etc.

[MG1]

https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/2021/08/province-recognizes-september-30-as-national-day-for-truth-and-r.html

https://www.thestar.com/local-burlington/news/2021/08/04/new-national-holiday-in-september-will-impact-services-in-oakville-and-burlington-as-well-as-milton-and-halton-hills.html

https://www.statutoryholidays.com/ontario.php

Looks like it's totally up to the provinces to recognize a stat or not. Remembrance Day is not recognized in Ontario. Like WTH?

Checking with that link for BC, it looks like our province is indeed going to recognize it.

[Razor Ramon HG]

I work for a company where my CEO opens every press conference by acknowledging aboriginal land. I think there is a good chance that we'll be getting the Thursday off as well as the Friday with what the company like to call a self-care day.

[68style]

I don't get the announcement thing... isn't it more insulting than anything?

It's like.. I'm willing to stand here every single day and say this is actually not my land... but I'm not going to get off it or give it back LOL

[SuperAman]

I don't know how I feel about this holiday. I guess it's good because it is a day off and stuff. But I work in retail and that September is basically our busy month, plus it's a month end...just means more work.

[MG1]

I don't get the announcement thing... isn't it more insulting than anything?

It's like.. I'm willing to stand here every single day and say this is actually not my land... but I'm not going to get off it or give it back LOL

I think it's more like we share the land, 'cause sharing is caring........... OMFG, I can't believe I actually typed that out.

When push comes to shove, though............. nuff said. For thousands of years, people have fought, conquered, taken over, whathaveyou........... everywhere. The first nations people themselves fought brutal wars against each other.

We just gotta learn to coexist............ god, there I go again.

MG1 cares............

Anyway, this national day of reconciliation is not about land claims. It's about the mistreatment, to put it mildly, of children in residential schools. And the effects it had on the families who had their children taken away.

[320icar]

Can’t wait to see what day off my company will take away from me in lieu of this new one!

[MG1]

Can’t wait to see what day off my company will take away from me in lieu of this new one!

Costco doesn't have to close on that day. I thought they would be closed on BC Day. Nope. Business as usual. To avoid controversy, they will. Plus, BC Day is a civic holiday and this one is a national holiday.

Hmmmmmmm...........

Is Costco going to close that day?

[320icar]

Hell no. They won’t close unless the government says they have to. When the gov made the “family day” they took away bc day.

[donk.]

2021, where there needs to be a day for everything

[JDMDreams]

^ we need a Covid 19 20 21 day, and a Covid get yo vaccine awareness Day. Paid day off no complaints:fuckyea::awwyeah:

[murd0c]

Costco doesn't have to close on that day. I thought they would be closed on BC Day. Nope. Business as usual. To avoid controversy, they will. Plus, BC Day is a civic holiday and this one is a national holiday.

Hmmmmmmm...........

Is Costco going to close that day?

I believe Costco employees are union so if it's not written in their union contract they won't get it off.

[Great68]

Costco doesn't have to close on that day. I thought they would be closed on BC Day. Nope. Business as usual.

Businesses aren't required to close on stat holidays, however if they require their employees to work on stats then they must be paid time and a half on that day.

Costco isn't a federally regulated industry, therefore they wouldn't even be required to offer time and a half pay to their employees for Sept 30.

[Great68]

Hell no. They won’t close unless the government says they have to. When the gov made the “family day” they took away bc day.

Do you work in a federally regulated industry?

[Eff-1]

Here's the list of federally regulated industries:

https://www.canada.ca/en/services/jobs/workplace/federally-regulated-industries.html

So good news TELUS employees!

[SumAznGuy]

I believe Costco employees are union so if it's not written in their union contract they won't get it off.

Costco employees are not union.
It's in their sales pitch, that's one reason they can keep their prices down. No union fees.

Same with Walmart.

[Euro7r]

I think generally most will follow and give that day off. The day itself is too sensitive to not allow people to get it off. It's like if you have workers that are Indigenous affiliated, I think it would cause too much labor dispute grief.

[blkgsr]

pretty sure i'm not showing up to work on the friday oct 1st

[MG1]

Businesses aren't required to close on stat holidays, however if they require their employees to work on stats then they must be paid time and a half on that day.

Costco isn't a federally regulated industry, therefore they wouldn't even be required to offer time and a half pay to their employees for Sept 30.

Oh, I remember working at the fish processing plant. Working on the Sunday of a stat weekend got us double time, plus and extra 8 hours. You had to have worked the week before and the week after and have X number of hours for the pay period. Back in the days when salmon was plenty, the company made so much money, it didn't matter. We weren't even union. Back in the late 70's, the owner talked to the workers re: unionizing. He said no matter what the unions negotiated with the other companies, we would get the same deal. We wouldn't be out of work due to strikes, plus, we would also save money by not having to pay union fees/dues.

Back then, we were like, 'Fuck yeah!" Thinking about it now. It did kind of bug me a bit, because we profited from the sacrifices of the unionized workers. Then again, unions were powerful, greedy, and corrupt. Not really out to protect the average workers.

I remember this one girl who started shit and wanted to unionize the plant. That lasted all of ten seconds. When she first showed up for work (I remember this because I was there in the office), the first words to come out of her filthy mouth was, "Who do I have to suck to get the good jobs?" She got a job alright and was treated like everybody else. She was one of those workers who needed a union to protect them. She was a totally shitty worker. People hated working next to her. She didn't last too long at her job. I think she got a job at one of the unionized plants, gulolol.

Anyway............... thread jacking or what?

[SkinnyPupp]

Cool story bro, no Kappa

[danned]

not for us baby....

[Razor Ramon HG]

Oh, I remember working at the fish processing plant. Working on the Sunday of a stat weekend got us double time, plus and extra 8 hours. You had to have worked the week before and the week after and have X number of hours for the pay period. Back in the days when salmon was plenty, the company made so much money, it didn't matter. We weren't even union. Back in the late 70's, the owner talked to the workers re: unionizing. He said no matter what the unions negotiated with the other companies, we would get the same deal. We wouldn't be out of work due to strikes, plus, we would also save money by not having to pay union fees/dues.

Back then, we were like, 'Fuck yeah!" Thinking about it now. It did kind of bug me a bit, because we profited from the sacrifices of the unionized workers. Then again, unions were powerful, greedy, and corrupt. Not really out to protect the average workers.

I remember this one girl who started shit and wanted to unionize the plant. That lasted all of ten seconds. When she first showed up for work (I remember this because I was there in the office), the first words to come out of her filthy mouth was, "Who do I have to suck to get the good jobs?" She got a job alright and was treated like everybody else. She was one of those workers who needed a union to protect them. She was a totally shitty worker. People hated working next to her. She didn't last too long at her job. I think she got a job at one of the unionized plants, gulolol.

Anyway............... thread jacking or what?

My first job was working at Superstore and the pay structure was similar.

Back in those days on a stat holiday, we would get 4 hours of pay regardless if we were working and double pay on top of the hours we worked.

e.g. if I worked for 8 hours, I'd get paid 20 hours.

Then they changed it at one of union negotiations after and all the newbies missed out, but existing employees were grandfathered in.

:ahwow:

[320icar]

Regardless of what industry you are in, you should get paid the 8 hours on your stat holiday (assuming hourly employee, 40h per week etc). Then if you work that day, it’s considered overtime, which is 1.5x pay. So for BC day I had to work, so I was 2.5x pay

[pastarocket]

Federal government employee here. This is great news. I have October 1st as an approved day off too. Four day long weekend for me. :fuckyea:


Stat holiday aside, September 30th is a day for our nation to reflect on how Canada can do better going forward. I have many First Nations colleagues in the federal government department that I work with.

I stand with them in honouring First Nations, the Inuit and Metis survivors.

Canada has to do better!

Maybe some of us Canadians think that Canada is better than the United States in terms of social issues, relations between people of different cultural backgrounds. You might be even say that some Canadians look at the U.S. in a condescending manner in terms of they way the Americans are dealing with systemic racism in their communities, government, armed forces, and policing.

Is Canada that much different than the US? Sure, we have different gun control laws in Canada compared the U.S. We may not see police killing black people here like George Floyd, etc.

The numerous findings of unmarked graves in residential schools across our country remind us of our dark legacy of racism, and disgusting abuse and murder of First Nations people by our government and the Catholic Church.

I hope that some Canadians, including me, take some time on September 30th to reflect on how our country can do better. Are there concrete steps that Canadians can take to learn more, get educated about the history of First Nations in Canada? Are there organizations that we can support financially to help Indigenous People?

We cannot do anything now to bring back the lives lost of First Nations children and adults during their horrific treatment at residential schools.

Going forward, do Canadians and all levels of government have the will to do something to make Canada a truly welcoming nation for all people, especially Canadians with a First Nations background?

[Great68]

Regardless of what industry you are in, you should get paid the 8 hours on your stat holiday (assuming hourly employee, 40h per week etc). Then if you work that day, it’s considered overtime, which is 1.5x pay. So for BC day I had to work, so I was 2.5x pay

Yes but BC Day is a provincial stat, this new holiday is a Federal stat.

Federal stats are not automatically adopted as provincial stats. Therefore as of right now unless you are in a federally regulated industry you get nothing for this new stat.

[quasi]

Like Easter right? Govt employees get both Good Friday and Easter off well most the rest of us only get Good Friday off.

I work for a private company, I'm lucky enough they'll give us both something started by my old manager mainly because I think he wanted a 4 day weekend to go to his cabin. :) It was always, come in if you want or stay home and enjoy the day off, whatever.

[hud 91gt]

I’m in a federally regulated workplace. Don’t get the day off, no increase in pay but get a day off in lieau. Still not sure how they get away with that. Haha

[Great68]

Like Easter right? Govt employees get both Good Friday and Easter off well most the rest of us only get Good Friday off.

I work for a private company, I'm lucky enough they'll give us both something started by my old manager mainly because I think he wanted a 4 day weekend to go to his cabin. :) It was always, come in if you want or stay home and enjoy the day off, whatever.

Exactly, if you're provincially regulated and you get Easter Monday that's just your company giving you an extra perk, be it private or provincial public.

I'm not union or federally regulated but my company gives me the Easter Monday, Boxing Day, Christmas Eve (if it doesn't fall on a weekend) and even the Friday of BC Day long weekend off (although with the stipulation the offices need to stay open with a skeleton crew, so if you do end working that day you get another day off in lieu)

[Euro7r]

I work from home, everyday is a day of rest if I wanted to :troll:, (As long as I get all my work done by deadline LOL).

[Eff-1]

My wife works for provincial public sector. She gets the day off. So do all other provincial public employees.

[SuperAman]

this stat benefits more of a federal and provincial government employee or even some unions more so than regular workers retail.. restaurant..etc
plus wonder why they didn't just choose march or june since those 2.months have no holidays. you are basically putting 2 holidays in September and than Thanksgiving is nearby.

[MG1]

Has to do with the original orange shirt day.

https://irshdc.ubc.ca/visit/events/orangeshirtday/


It's like D-Day shouldn't be commemorated in February. Not that D-Day is a stat.

[Vansterdam]

gotta love how federal gov employees get Boxing day as a stat too :seriously:

[Obsideon]

What is the significance of making it September 30? So that means September will have 2 stat holidays, why not making it October, it's just a few days later.

[CivicBlues]

Then October will have 2 stats? Lol.

Basically only June is wide open for us in BC, but we also have National Aboriginal Day a non-stat on June 21st.

[Vansterdam]

Then October will have 2 stats? Lol.

Basically only June is wide open for us in BC, but we also have National Aboriginal Day a non-stat on June 21st.

Natives gotta fight for June 21 being a stat too :fullofwin:

[blkgsr]

gotta love how federal gov employees get Boxing day as a stat too :seriously:

i'm on a union job now (non union salary) so I get AAALLL the days off....it's great.

[Hondaracer]

There is talk with my federally regulated job that if you aren’t aboriginal you may not get the day off.. we’ll see how this goes.. lol

[CivicBlues]

So flags are still flying at half-staff at government buildings. Not trying to be insensitive but how long is this going to continue? I don't think any event has ever lasted this long before even for something like 9/11.

[Teriyaki]

Woohoo work just announced we're going to be recognizing the new holiday. Now to watch all the senior people rush to book the Friday off as well to get that 4 day weekend to "recognize and reconciliate"

[Obsideon]

Then October will have 2 stats? Lol.

Basically only June is wide open for us in BC, but we also have National Aboriginal Day a non-stat on June 21st.

Ah forgot about Thanksgiving. It looks like March should be open too?

[CivicBlues]

Ah forgot about Thanksgiving. It looks like March should be open too?

March sometimes has Good Friday/Easter:rofl:

[hotjoint]

June would be awesome since we have nothing in June...

[Gh0stRider]

Had to work the stat. Was looking forward to getting day off, but I wasn't gonna turn down the OT pay. :P

[JDMDreams]

Did people even get paid ot? It seems like everything was open as normal:okay:

Plus the funny thing is BC doesn't recognize it as a holiday even though the graves are here, none of the provinces that have graves recognize it:facepalm:

[pastarocket]

Turd took his family to Tofino on the September 30th stat holiday. LUL

-not sitting well at all with many Indigenous leaders.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/10/04/trudeau-tofino-indigenous-relationship/

To repair the damage of that choice, Indigenous leaders and experts say Trudeau has a tough hill to climb.

Dr. Veldon Coburn with the Institute of Indigenous Research and Studies at the University of Ottawa says Trudeau has wasted his political capital and lost a lot of support in Indigenous communities.

“This has been a cumulative effect of quite a bit of disappointment over the last six years. We will get over it, we’ll get past it, but we won’t forget it,” he said.


Chief Don Tom, vice president of the Union of BC Indian Chiefs, says no matter what the prime minister does moving forward, it will be hard to forget what happened on the very first day for Truth and Reconciliation.

“He wasn’t there, and he wasn’t there for us. He wasn’t standing with the children,” Chief Tom said, adding it won’t be easy to repair the broken trust, which reflects six years of not meeting expectations.

“We’ll remember this.”

Some say it will be tough for Trudeau to make this right. Coburn and Tom say communities need to finally see concrete action on issues like boil water advisories and housing, and for the government to drop court challenges with Indigenous children to begin to make things right.

[Hondaracer]

The news was reporting reservations gave like single digit voter turnout and some First Nations even refuse to vote because they won’t participate in the perpetuation of colonization

So you reap what you sow I suppose.

[CivicBlues]

Holy fucking shit, it's October already we've been talking about this "holiday" for months now it's done with already for this year can we put it to rest until at least another 12 months?

[320icar]

Who made you click this thread lol

[Gh0stRider]

Did people even get paid ot? It seems like everything was open as normal:okay:

Plus the funny thing is BC doesn't recognize it as a holiday even though the graves are here, none of the provinces that have graves recognize it:facepalm:

gov't jobs, yes.

[hotjoint]

I worked and got paid 1.5x. I would have gladly just taken the day off with normal pay but that wasn't an option

[68style]

Who made you click this thread lol

OCD... bolded threads... I can't handle it