[vitaminG]

Pretty excited for this, would love to replace my s4 with a new STi which will hopefully be soon behind, hatchback and dsg are probably wishful thinking. Interested to see what the new powertrain is like fa24dit with a pretty bump hopefully

https://www.subaru.com/2022-wrx

[bcrdukes]

Out of curiosity (and to be clear, I am not judging your decision) but what was the thought process or rationale in moving from you S4 to WRX?

[hotong]

I actually went from a 2016 wrx sti to a S4. S4 is 100 x better IMO.

[320icar]

I’m on the STi forums and every week there are topics made about “2021 STi, or 2022?” And the overwhelming answer is get the 2021. All of it with the same reason; we know all the problems with the ej257. What if the FA is worse?

I don’t buy it. I’m sure the new FA will be fantastic. It already is pretty good in the wrx

[donk.]

Is it all new?
Or does it look like the last year model, with new trim, so its all new?

[toyota86]

I’m on the STi forums and every week there are topics made about “2021 STi, or 2022?” And the overwhelming answer is get the 2021. All of it with the same reason; we know all the problems with the ej257. What if the FA is worse?

I don’t buy it. I’m sure the new FA will be fantastic. It already is pretty good in the wrx

I'm cautiously optimistic about the new platform. I'll be looking forward to a 2023 model year (never buy first year) when they are off lease in 2027. lol

[!Aznboi128]

Is it all new?
Or does it look like the last year model, with new trim, so its all new?
Well the current gen WRX is based on the last gen Impreza so one can assume the new WRX will be based on the current gen Impreza.

[vitaminG]

Out of curiosity (and to be clear, I am not judging your decision) but what was the thought process or rationale in moving from you S4 to WRX?

I can (barely) afford a new japanese or an out of warranty German. By the time a new STi is released my s4 will probably be close to 10yo and 150k. Its been reliable but I don't want to press my luck. The WRX/sti also seem to retain their value quite well.

[JDMDreams]

^^ sir do you have a moment to talk about head gaskets:joy::troll:

[Traum]

I’m on the STi forums and every week there are topics made about “2021 STi, or 2022?” And the overwhelming answer is get the 2021. All of it with the same reason; we know all the problems with the ej257. What if the FA is worse?

I don’t buy it. I’m sure the new FA will be fantastic. It already is pretty good in the wrx
Isn't the FA24DIT already available in the Ascent in a lower state of tune? If there are common problems with it, I would expect people to have already heard about some of them.

I don't have an axe to grind with the old EJ, but a replacement with something a lot more modern is long overdue. Pumping out 276hp in early 2000's is impressive. Pumping out 305hp in 2021 is really kind of meh. (Not to mention how thirsty the engine is.)

[Klondike]

The 'detuned' FA24DIT in the Ascent is really punchy. Drove one as a passenger van for about a week in all city driving and couldn't get under 14L/100km

The boost is addicting, but the CVT 'upshifts' so aggressively, so it keeps you out of boost. It's amazing how much power it has on 87 octane

Tribeca is better tho

[Oshiguru]

Out of curiosity (and to be clear, I am not judging your decision) but what was the thought process or rationale in moving from you S4 to WRX?

I'm contemplating a similar euro > wrx/sti switch. Had hot hatches for a long time. I prefer driving my e36 m3 over the f87 m2. If the new wrx/sti have a hatch option I may be swayed depending on how they drive.

[320icar]

Yes the FA24 is available, and is a great motor. But you know how it is with car people, they like what they know and fear change

Speaking of thirsty, the STi supplemental manual says consuming up to 1qt of oil within 1000 miles (1600km) is at the upper end, but within operating specs.

That is fucking insane. With my RS that’s tuned to the limit of the stock hardware has done 2 track days, 3 autox days, road trips to the interior and daily driving, and has lost *maybe* 100mL. And its 65k km of hard use too.

[vitaminG]

Isn't the FA24DIT already available in the Ascent in a lower state of tune? If there are common problems with it, I would expect people to have already heard about some of them.

I read a while ago sone tuners are already messing with the Ascent fa24 in preparation and getting 500ish from stock block

[!Aznboi128]

https://media.subaru.com/pressrelease/1790/1/subaru-debuts-all-new-2022-wrx

Fifth-generation of the rally-bred icon
271-horsepower 2.4-liter turbocharged BOXER engine
Available new Subaru Performance Transmission offers faster up and down shifts
New tablet-style high-definition SUBARU STARLINK 11.6-inch center information display
Built on the Subaru Global Platform
Dual-pinion electric power steering provides quicker response and improved steering feel
New GT trim adds drive mode select, electronically controlled dampers, and exclusive exterior and interior accents
EyeSight Driver Assist Technology with new safety and convenience features available



271hp, 6-speed isn't bad. Looks are expected, pretty similar to the current Impreza

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/libraryImages/2022_Subaru_WRXHero__mid.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/libraryImages/2022_Subaru_WRX_008__mid.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/libraryImages/2022_Subaru_WRX_067__mid.jpg

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/libraryImages/2022_Subaru_WRX_158__mid.jpg

[supafamous]

What's with the black wheel cladding? Targeting the SUV audience now with this thing? Makes for some massive looking wheel gap.

[!Aznboi128]

Yea, that's kinda weird

[TOS'd]

Its so you can slam your car but still have the illusion of a wheel gap so you dont get a VI.

Bless Subaru for listening to our car community and assisting in the on-going fight against VIs.

[TypeRNammer]

Not a single word mentioning about the CVT transmission, which I'm pretty sure it is.

[twitchyzero]

they force CVT on you if you want recaros

[twitchyzero]

still checks all the right boxes though: turbo awd stick, VIN starts with J

[dark0821]

ughhh the rear is just..... lolol

and yes.... those fender vents

no mention of a hatch variant either....

[68style]

I'm glad Subaru hasn't stopped working with Toyota just on the BRZ... now taking elements of the RAV-4 over to the Impreza line too!

[!Aznboi128]

Not a single word mentioning about the CVT transmission, which I'm pretty sure it is.
They're calling it the Performance Transmission and yes it's a CVT.

I guess it's because CVT has such a bad name over the years, tbh I don't mind them on economy cars where it's just to go around traffic. It makes sense to have a smoother drivetrain but on a WRX it doesn't seem as fitting. Then again, most will be buying it with the manual so...

apparently manual trans can only send up to 50% of the power rearwards while the cvt can send up to 55%

the new Subaru Performance Transmission (automatic) which offers up to 30 percent faster upshifts (2nd to 3rd) and 50 percent faster downshifts (3rd to 2nd). The automatic transmission incorporates adaptive shift control that can quickly respond to perform rev-matching downshifts under braking, maintain the ideal ratio through corners, and respond faster on corner exit. Total ratio coverage range has been enlarged, and lower ‘fixed’ gear ratios have been revised to improve acceleration and response.

[blackGS?]

VA chassis and older gens about to shoot up in value (even more)

[whitev70r]

That's it ... 'all new"? Man, they need to hire some better designers ...

It looks 'all old'. Subaru is still betting on brand loyalty from the mid 2000's. 2006-7 was the last good looking Subaru that they made!

[Spectre_Cdn]

Those fenders are from the Lexus UX parts bin eh
/s

The new Impreza came out like two years ago and it took them this long to slap in an engine from its older brothers and the infotainment from the Legacy...

I think they forgot to put on the Wilderness Edition badging Kappa

[320icar]

Well that’s a big ol’ facepalm

[Alpine]

The black cladding doesn’t look as bad as I thought it would look… but I wonder how it will do vs. The sun and if it will fade or not …

Give it some time.. I think it will grow on you lol (which seems to be the trend with subarus).

[!Aznboi128]

I think the most exciting thing here is the fact they are using the FA24, it means tuning potential for not only the WRX but for the rest of the Subbie lineup.


Those fenders are from the Lexus UX parts bin eh
/s

The new Impreza came out like two years ago and it took them this long to slap in an engine from its older brothers and the infotainment from the Legacy...

I think they forgot to put on the Wilderness Edition badging Kappa

Basically the same as the last WRX/STI

[JDMDreams]

Lol what did you guys expect from Subaru, coming to more girls and see lais near you, every time I see a girl drive a WRX :notbad: but then I remembered they are all cvts:rukidding:

[vitaminG]

I think the most exciting thing here is the fact they are using the FA24, it means tuning potential for not only the WRX but for the rest of the Subbie lineup.




Basically the same as the last WRX/STI

Little surprised it's on 271hp though. Only 11 more than in the Ascent and 3 more than fa20. Must be mostly unchanged engine from SUV duty.

[!Aznboi128]

Little surprised it's on 271hp though. Only 11 more than in the Ascent and 3 more than fa20. Must be mostly unchanged engine from SUV duty.
Yea, hp isn't a big change but we should see the biggest difference within the torque band itself.

[Alpine]

Lol what did you guys expect from Subaru, coming to more girls and see lais near you, every time I see a girl drive a WRX :notbad: but then I remembered they are all cvts:rukidding:

My wife drives the CVT :)
Just be happy it results in more of these cars being around. True "Purists" are a dying breed. All of the other "purists" have just moved the goalposts. Autos replacing manuals, drive by wire replacing drive by cable, acronym soup for safety features (let alone things like ABS, traction control, stability control, etc).

[SpeedStars]

https://i.imgur.com/uj1iRDF.jpg

:ohgodwhy: I didn't mind anything else too much in the design but....this rear bumper has got to go.

It seems they raised the suspension on the WRX and added body cladding for a more rugged/off-road look. New STi I would imagine would have all the plastic painted and have a lower ride height.

[bcrdukes]

Speed bumps and parking lot ramps / underground entrances are becoming steeper and sharper so raising it is beneficial.

[Alpine]

That base infotainment centre.. holy hell lol.

[AzNightmare]

They obviously are focusing more on a "rally" look.

The wheel arches just look hideous. Not to mention them not being round just makes them worse. How long before aftermarket companies start offering widebody fender flares?
At least now you don't have to do permanent bodywork to swap it. Then you can colour match them too.

The car really looks "lifted" with the black arches and the black side skirt.

:heckno:

[noclue]

what is up with that swim platform on the rear?! Is it for crash reasons?

[JDMDreams]

The back looks like a civic:lawl:

[68style]

Dat's an ass you could stack books on right thur

[Teriyaki]

I really hope thats just the angle. That right there is a thicccc rear end and not in a flattering way.

[EvoFire]

People complained the FK8 was ugly.

Here Subaru comes, "Hold me beer"

[twitchyzero]

Give it some time.. I think it will grow on you lol (which seems to be the trend with subarus).

ya go back to almost every wrx reveal and there's harsh criticize

hawkeye ugh tribeca grille
hatch wow had too many doughnuts
2011 4-door rear looks like a corolla
2015 evo x copycat

i think it came pretty close to the concept and will look good in sti form

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/VwnlB/s1/subaru-viziv-performance-sti-concept.jpg

[forcedot]

What in the crystal meth is that tumour looking thing sticking out of the rear bumper on the new WRX???

I am also not a fan of the unpainted body panels. That is a copy from the base model pickup trucks or SUV's playbook. If you upgrade to the STI, then do they paint them?

[BIC_BAWS]

Those unpainted fenders are really reminding me of 2007. The MK5 GTi.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210911/b5fe9a4aa2c0661673b7b4fda612ea69.jpg

Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

[Manic!]

Not a single word mentioning about the CVT transmission, which I'm pretty sure it is.

You want the manual.

[6thGear.]

Man do I ever miss my hawkeye WRX but like someone said there's always criticism whenever a new model debuts but then it's aftermarket companies to the rescue

[AzNightmare]

I am also not a fan of the unpainted body panels. That is a copy from the base model pickup trucks or SUV's playbook. If you upgrade to the STI, then do they paint them?

They're really pushing hard to make this a crossover sports sedan.

In case people don't remember how a crosstrek looks like:

https://cdn.jdpower.com/ChromeImageGallery/ColorMatched/White/640/cc_2020SUS09_03_640/cc_2020SUS090037_03_640_SS2.jpg

It's literally why they infused all that black cladding on the WRX to make it look like a lifted crossover.

[supafamous]

The more I look at it the uglier it gets - clearly they've decided that there's a more exciting demo to target that's focused on SUV like cars and that the WRX fits into that strategy. Why else would they mention that there's more ground clearance and add so much cladding?

[underscore]

That looks like the bastard child of a Crosstrek and an Accord (or whatever sedan it is with very similar rear lights).

Who is supposed to be buying this? If I wanted a slightly higher, slightly rugged (?) Subaru, why would I not buy the even higher, even more practical Crosstrek?

[white rocket]

2006-7 was the last good looking Subaru that they made!

Truth! I loved my '07 STI but once the GR came out it all kinda sank for me. 97-07 was a good run for them.

Not sure what to like about this new WRX. It looks like a Urus and a UX ganged the current gen and this is the result 9 months later WutFace

[Akinari]

I think we're forgetting that it looks the way it does because of future electrification.

I saw someone "paint" the plastic body cladding on photoshop and holy shit the car was thiccc. You can see exactly how much height the car really has. The plastic body cladding IMO is just to try and get buyers used to it when they go full EV to hide the height, exactly like what Ford did with the Mach E.

[keifun]

Just looking at those pics makes me miss my old WRB Bugeye even more.

[!Aznboi128]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/pKkNY/s1/2022-subaru-wrx.jpg
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Honda-Civic_HF-2012-rear-1024x727.jpeg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/47/1b/84/471b84d9a345705fba8475f40789e4ef.jpg

Spot the difference

[mr00jimbo]

Whoever's decision it was to make the cool options only available with a fucking CVT should be fired. Or even to give the thing a CVT in the first place.

[!Aznboi128]

Hear me out, I don't think CVT is THAT bad.

keeping the engine within the optimal RPM will allow the turbo to continuously spool. In theory it makes sense.

I know CVTs suck and they just drone when you floor it but who cares you're not buying the CVT it's for those who want an easier driving experience.

[AstulzerRZD]

Alrighty, so Subaru took their sweet time to.....

- Rip the side profile off an Aztek
- Rip the front of a base 2017 Civic hatch
- Rip the back off the Forte/last gen Elantra
- Put a Nintendo 3DS in the infotainment screen
- Add 3HP with the same torque curve

They did the WRX durty.

[Alpine]

I think this is happening: WRX = CVT, STI = Manual. At least until they can develop/access a dual clutch.

[AstulzerRZD]

Hear me out, I don't think CVT is THAT bad.

keeping the engine within the optimal RPM will allow the turbo to continuously spool. In theory it makes sense.

I know CVTs suck and they just drone when you floor it but who cares you're not buying the CVT it's for those who want an easier driving experience.

I heard the Subaru one stacks CVT lag with turbo lag

[TypeRNammer]

I had a 2016 WRX with CVT transmission and over all it's actually not too bad, I can say that it's a ALOT better than the Nissan CVT transmissions.

[JDMDreams]

Will it make it to 100k Kms doe? Or will it blow with the head gaskets:accepted:

[supafamous]

I heard the Subaru one stacks CVT lag with turbo lag

It's their version of having VTEC kick in.

[vitaminG]

I think this is happening: WRX = CVT, STI = Manual. At least until they can develop/access a dual clutch.

ive heard the problem is due to their design layout of boxer engine and awd they cant really use something off the shelf so they have to use in house transmissions for everything. given the popularity of the manual and limited use for a dual clutch in any of their other products i doubt we will ever see a dct wrx/sti.

that being said the new impreza platform has hybrid capabilities and a performance hybrid with cvt might make it worthwhile

[twitchyzero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT2LUB1RFQc

[6thGear.]

Sign me up for that revised look

[TypeRNammer]

https://youtu.be/NmHbY5hKXXs

Even with the JDM S4 Sti Performance trim, it still looks like a turd

[Dragon-88]

Will it make it to 100k Kms doe? Or will it blow with the head gaskets:accepted:

FA motors dont get headgasket issues. They simply head straight for the Rod knock.. One of the weakest points on the FA20 motor.. Curious to see how this FA24 holds up to any sort of performance mods..

[Alpine]

For those that understand japanese (I don't):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOVJVj_qjsE&ab_channel=AutoMesseWeb

[Teriyaki]

For those that understand japanese (I don't):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOVJVj_qjsE&ab_channel=AutoMesseWeb

Understanding Japanese didn't make it any less ugly unfortunately

[EvoSpider]

You can get autotranslated captions, works well enough

[Suprarz666]

review and some upclose shots
https://www.yankodesign.com/2021/12/16/2022-subaru-wrx-review/

[320icar]

So, is it the wrx or the STi? I’m confused

https://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2021/12/2022-subaru-wrx-review/2022_Subaru_WRX_Review_yankodesign-10.jpg

[Teriyaki]

It's a WRX S4 tuned by STi, still not balls to the wall STi. Though, we don't even know if they'll release a true STi ever?

Also, that white Levorg right in front of the blue WRX. Bring back the hatch!!!

[JDMDreams]

I really wonder why they got rid of the hatch. Considering Subaru people love hatches and wagons. Even civic is doing hatches. And Toyota is getting back into the hot hatch game

[whitev70r]

Now this is one car that you might have a choice of inventory on the lot ... cuz it is so hideous looking.

[Vege]

Embargo on the reviews end tomorrow 6am PST. Very curious to see how the platform performs regardless of how unattractive it is.

[dark0821]

I really wonder why they got rid of the hatch. Considering Subaru people love hatches and wagons. Even civic is doing hatches. And Toyota is getting back into the hot hatch game


Too bad the new Civic Si is sedan only.

Not a good sample size since all my friends like cars, but everyone prefers the hatch over the sedan... at least to the people I've talked to...

[dared3vil0]

Needs more power... A fucking toyota camry has more power than the "all new" WRX.

It's not even about slow car fast, it's just not enough.

[JDMDreams]

Well daddy Doug said that's what the STI is for. WRX is for daily, sti is for racers. And that they had no money to build a wagon :suspicious:

[dared3vil0]

Well daddy Doug said that's what the STI is for. WRX is for daily, sti is for racers. And that they had no money to build a wagon :suspicious:

Still, 271hp is not sufficient for a new, performance style car imo.

[JDMDreams]

I wonder of its still so low powered because the CVT will explode :suspicious: but it doesn't make sense to hold a car back for a transmission

[bcrdukes]

I wonder of its still so low powered because the CVT will explode :suspicious: but it doesn't make sense to hold a car back for a transmission

On the topic of exploding CVTs, I noticed a weird grinding noise coming from either the engine bay or transmission when I’ve got the throttle at around 50% and at 60KM/h+. I took it in to Toyota for a diagnostic check and five hours later, the Service Manager and Sr. Tech come out to tell me my transmission has failed.

Thankfully, parts and labour are covered by Toyota under factory warranty but it leaves me wondering WTF happened on a Corolla with less than 150hp and 75,300KM mostly highway driven? I expect this on some European marquee or a Nissan, but not a Toyota. I’m pretty cheezed and will avoid cars with a CVT for years to come. I really think I got unlucky with this. Karma for making fun of BMW I guess.

[underscore]

Still, 271hp is not sufficient for a new, performance style car imo.

Hey now, it's a whole 3 more than the old one apparently.

[AzNightmare]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a38591172/2022-subaru-wrx-plastic-fender-flares/

Stumbled on this article randomly.

Why the 2022 Subaru WRX Has Those Controversial Black Plastic Fender Flares

"This surface has a hexagonal aerodynamic shape, kind of like a golf ball," he said. "It's functional. It's designed to help improve airflow."

According to Subaru, when engineers tested the textured flares against painted versions in the wind tunnel, the raw plastic was significantly better at keeping air flowing smoothly around the car.

"Just changing the structure from paint to the hexagonal texture has a big improvement on the aerodynamics of the vehicle," Redic said. With a smooth, painted flare, the air "starts to peel off the shape further back, and you have much more turbulence toward the back," Redic said. The texturized plastic is even used in some spots underneath the car, where its aerodynamic characteristics are helpful.


It's still fugly.

[JDMDreams]

Did you change the CVT oil? Or did they tell you it's life time oil :rukidding:



On the topic of exploding CVTs, I noticed a weird grinding noise coming from either the engine bay or transmission when I’ve got the throttle at around 50% and at 60KM/h+. I took it in to Toyota for a diagnostic check and five hours later, the Service Manager and Sr. Tech come out to tell me my transmission has failed.

Thankfully, parts and labour are covered by Toyota under factory warranty but it leaves me wondering WTF happened on a Corolla with less than 150hp and 75,300KM mostly highway driven? I expect this on some European marquee or a Nissan, but not a Toyota. I’m pretty cheezed and will avoid cars with a CVT for years to come. I really think I got unlucky with this. Karma for making fun of BMW I guess.

[Alpine]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a38591172/2022-subaru-wrx-plastic-fender-flares/

Stumbled on this article randomly.

Why the 2022 Subaru WRX Has Those Controversial Black Plastic Fender Flares

It's still fugly.

How much can a few bits of plastic trim really aid aerodynamic efficiency when the rest of the car is a brick lol.

IMO, it was done to align the WRX with the rest of the lineup (which, conveniently, is covered in black plastic cladding!). Subaru is really trying to find a way to emphasize/highlight their AWD drivetrain through design now that every manufacture has AWD/4WD. What helped me cut through all the BS was learning that they actually raised the car by 0.5".

[twitchyzero]

cant even imagine what the new 86 would be like without akio toyoda's involvement

probably release one with rooftop tent mount :lol

still think the sti can save this

[bcrdukes]

Did you change the CVT oil? Or did they tell you it's life time oil :rukidding:

No, I didn't, although I did ask them to several times and Toyota said it wasn't necessary given the age and mileage. The car was still under factory warranty so I didn't want to argue with them. Alas, this is where we ended up.

The tech has programmed the ECU to run on some kind of limp mode so the car is still drivable, albeit it doesn't have the pep it once had, and the grinding noise isn't as evident as it was before. So until the transmission is at the dealership, they've told me it's okay to drive around like this for the next while. :failed:

[JDMDreams]

I've been driving a 2020 Corolla, the CVT is ok, there's occasionally a jerk at initial acceleration off the line and sometimes a clunk when you let off the throttle too fast in traffic. It has around 32k Kms. The interior is shit and so tinny sounding though in the heavy rain, hail. Not sure how the gr Yaris or Corolla will turn out. :pokerface:

[twitchyzero]

my conventional 5psd toyota slushbox can be a bit jerky on rethrottle once the vehicle is in motion and have to adjust my inputs a bit to reduce it.. haven't tried new fluids in diffs/trans/tcase

no way would it have been acceptable at 30k on the clock..if its failing get it fixed under warranty and count your lucky stars to list it afterwards

[bcrdukes]

I've been driving a 2020 Corolla, the CVT is ok, there's occasionally a jerk at initial acceleration off the line and sometimes a clunk when you let off the throttle too fast in traffic. It has around 32k Kms. The interior is shit and so tinny sounding though in the heavy rain, hail. Not sure how the gr Yaris or Corolla will turn out. :pokerface:

I find that CVTs, regardless of manufacturer, will have their quirks, notably the ones you mentioned. They are designed to optimize for fuel economy (likely why it was used in this iteration for the WRX.) I recommend you dig into this with your dealership as I had experienced a similar experience when we first got our Corolla. Maybe 8 months in to our ownership. Toyota issued a recall to update the software on the transmission module which alleviated all the issues you mentioned.

I can't speak to how "shitty" your interior is but when we were car shopping recently, it was quite decent in comparison to its Japanese competitors in its class. The interior of our Corolla looks and feels like new from when we purchased it in 2017 and was miles ahead better than its competitors (at the time.) As for the heavy rain and the interior sounding like tin, that's likely because of the new TNGA platform used, and also, this has always been an uninspiring choice for me with any Subaru as this is par for the course for many generations.

I can't tell if you are just miserable with your decision, or if your expectations aren't realistic. If it's as bad as you make it to be, I'm positive the dealership would be happy to buy the car back from you given the current situation of inventory.

[JDMDreams]

Yea not my car so not my problem, it was a courtesy car I've been driving for the last few weeks. It was fun to play with the latest 2020 Toyota tech. The lane keep, and radar cruise which was nice to have in such a low end car. But it kinda sucks cuz unless the lanes are perfect and it's bright out, the lane keep doesn't work. And if it did it work it beeps at you every 15 or 30 sec, cuz either it can't read the lines or you have to hold the wheel. It also wobbles back and forth between the lines. Also the radar cruise is super sluggish and leaves like a 6 car gap and ppl keep cutting in front of you. Also I've had a few times where I had to manual apply the brakes cuz the radar didn't detect the car cutting on front. :suspicious:

I wonder if the Subaru eye sight that they have is the same thing?

[bcrdukes]

Probably the same, or at least the foundation of the technology is shared and then adapted to each company's iteration on the market.

I don't think such technology can be perfect so early in the game but if you have to rely and expect the technology to save you from all these situations, I think a company called Translink could be the answer to your problems. :D

[AzNightmare]

Not sure if this is WRX news or STI news...

Better hang on to your STI, the resale value is gonna go up!

STI has been killed off for now...

The New Subaru WRX Won’t Get an STI Version
Instead, Subaru's waiting until it can electrify its flagship performance variant.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/44717/the-new-subaru-wrx-wont-get-an-sti-version

[CorneringArtist]

If this means a possible pivot to stuffing the WRX drivetrain in the Crosstrek, that sounds interesting. Bring on the Gravel Express.

[vitaminG]

I would actually be really into an electric or hybrid STI. It won't eat gas and it can't blow head gaskets!

[Traum]

The news makes me wonder -- does Subaru really sell that few STIs? The easy button to make a new gen STI would have been to dial up the boost by a whole bunch, tune it for reliability and drivability, and slap on a few more performance bits on the WRX. With the way the 2022 WRX is, there should be a LOT of headroom for Subie to tap into.
Not sure if this is WRX news or STI news...

Better hang on to your STI, the resale value is gonna go up!

STI has been killed off for now...

https://www.thedrive.com/news/44717/the-new-subaru-wrx-wont-get-an-sti-version

[320icar]

Guess my 2010 just doubled in value

If this means a possible pivot to stuffing the WRX drivetrain in the Crosstrek, that sounds interesting. Bring on the Gravel Express.

A guy recently took his 2013 crosstrek and swapped in an entire 2018 STi. I’m talking motor, drivetrain, subframes, interior (Seats dash door cards headliner etc) and virtually the ENTIRE project was bolt on.

https://www.iwsti.com/threads/sti-crosstrek.325282/

[teggy604]

The news makes me wonder -- does Subaru really sell that few STIs? The easy button to make a new gen STI would have been to dial up the boost by a whole bunch, tune it for reliability and drivability, and slap on a few more performance bits on the WRX. With the way the 2022 WRX is, there should be a LOT of headroom for Subie to tap into.

They should have built one last crazy STi to end a era of gasoline STis. Number plate it and send it out with a bang.

[320icar]

They should have built one last crazy STi to end a era of gasoline STis. Number plate it and send it out with a bang.

To be fair, most sti’s end with a bang

[Spectre_Cdn]

Wasn’t there a special edition S209 a couple years back? Almost a send-off, years in advance…

[320icar]

They do an “s20X” every generation to my knowledge, but this was the first time with the s209 that shipped around the world. I think all the s205-206 etc were Japanese only

[underscore]

Guess my 2010 just doubled in value



A guy recently took his 2013 crosstrek and swapped in an entire 2018 STi. I’m talking motor, drivetrain, subframes, interior (Seats dash door cards headliner etc) and virtually the ENTIRE project was bolt on.

https://www.iwsti.com/threads/sti-crosstrek.325282/

You mean to tell me that with almost no additional R&D Subaru could've been selling us a Crosstrek STi THE WHOLE DAMN TIME?

[twitchyzero]

clearly saving the badge for a camry wagon

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/KbJrWQ/s3/subaru-solterra-sti-concept.jpg

[vitaminG]

You mean to tell me that with almost no additional R&D Subaru could've been selling us a Crosstrek STi THE WHOLE DAMN TIME?

I'm sure they're engineers could make all kinds of cool stuff with off the shelf parts. The challenge is getting it emission certified and messing with their average fuel economy. Subaru doesn't seem to have trouble selling all the crosstreks they make as is so why bother?

[EvoFire]

Saw a dealer on the island that had a orange one on the lot. The cladding still seems odd in person.

[underscore]

I'm sure they're engineers could make all kinds of cool stuff with off the shelf parts. The challenge is getting it emission certified and messing with their average fuel economy. Subaru doesn't seem to have trouble selling all the crosstreks they make as is so why bother?

So dip into the STi production numbers or don't give it the full STi power. Give it a WRX engine and all the other STi bits or something so it's at least vaguely quick.

[twitchyzero]

only a tiny percentage were buying turbo foresters

the last time that had a manual was 14 years ago BabyRage

https://res0.grays.com/handlers/imagehandler.ashx?t=sh&id=33527325&s=fl&index=0&ts=637733496300000000

[320icar]

^^ there’s an ~05 forester XT Manual in WRB I see in Richmond. Looks stunning, it’s an enthusiasts dream! ~50yo asian woman driving it just like a normal car. Hopefully when she eventually sells it gets into the hands of an enthusiast (maybe she is a secret enthusiast)

[EvoFire]

^^ there’s an ~05 forester XT Manual in WRB I see in Richmond. Looks stunning, it’s an enthusiasts dream! ~50yo asian woman driving it just like a normal car. Hopefully when she eventually sells it gets into the hands of an enthusiast (maybe she is a secret enthusiast)

So many grannies and grandpas driving cars that look like enthusiasts cars. I wonder how many are driving what their kids left behind when they went elsewhere for work and can't be bothered to get something else.

[bcrdukes]

100% anecdotal, but I'm sure it was no mistake when these seniors bought their cars like a manual XT or whatever. I came across an ICU nurse out in Delta a number of years ago who drove a manual XT and was selling it and found out she and her husband were original owners. They were probably in their late 50s if not early 60s and they probably grew up driving manual cars. It was a well-sorted car but we couldn't agree on a price that made us both happy.

[68style]

Subaru Forester was voted the #1 car for lesbians in a lifestyle magazine a number of years back :)

[320icar]

I also enjoy eating cooter, so maybe I should get one

[68style]

You don't have enough facial hair to pull it off